Podcast Summary

Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast

Episode: 138 | Jesus Longs To Heal, Part 1
Date: January 11, 2023
Host: Nancy Dufresne (Dufresne Ministries)

Overview of Episode Theme

In this spiritually charged teaching, Nancy Dufresne explores the profound longing of Jesus to heal and help his followers. Drawing on scriptural accounts, personal anecdotes, and the visions of Kenneth E. Hagin (“Dad Hagin”), the episode focuses on Christ’s availability and readiness to heal, the active role of faith, the importance of following the Holy Spirit, and what it truly means to “let” Jesus intervene in our lives. Listeners are urged to receive what has already been provided in Christ, practice the art of casting their cares upon God, and develop skill in holding onto blessings and healing.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Jesus’ Power is Present for Healing

• God's healing power is always available, right where you are, even in a sick or hospital room. Receiving is about faith, not striving.
• Quote:

  “There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you.” (00:12, Nancy Dufresne)

2. Faith and Expectancy: The Blind Men of Matthew 20

• Nancy dissects Matthew 20:30–34 (Amplified Classic), where two blind men call out to Jesus.
• Their faith and willingness to “cry out all the more” despite opposition drew Jesus’ power and stopped him in his tracks.
• Quote:

  “What stops power from passing you by? What you're saying, what you're calling.” (02:06, Nancy Dufresne)

• Jesus’ response, “What do you want me to do for you?” (03:00), is highlighted as an open, servant-hearted offer with no limits.
• “He allows us and invites us to direct his movement in our lives.” (05:00)
• Receiving the miracle is not the end; staying connected to Jesus matters for keeping and walking in that miracle.

3. Divine Invitation: The Blank Check

• Jesus’ question—“What do you want me to do for you?”—is compared to a waiter’s open-ended prompt at a restaurant.
• We choose what we ask; Jesus stands ready to provide, serving in response to faith and expectation.

4. God’s Performance is Proportional to Our Engagement with the Word

• God “hastens to His Word to perform it.” It’s our responsibility to fill ourselves with the Word to give Him something to perform in our lives.
• Quote:

  “The day we say is the day he performs, the day we don’t say is the day he can’t perform for us.” (07:48, Nancy Dufresne)

5. Receiving Healing is Not About Earning—It's About Letting Jesus Do What He Longs To

• Story: Nancy recalls Kenneth E. Hagin’s vision (from “I Believe in Visions”, Chapter 5) where Jesus said,

  “I did this, son, just because you asked me to... You don’t know how I long to do for my children if they would only ask me and believe me.” (14:55, quoting Jesus’ words to Hagin)

• Jesus distinguishes between asking in faith and merely begging or crying; the former releases his help, the latter does not.

6. Letting Jesus Work – Casting and Leaving Our Cares

• Letting Jesus act means taking Him at His Word, bringing Him our problem, and trusting Him fully—without picking those problems back up.

• Nancy shares a memorable childhood story about a knotted chain to illustrate how taking back what’s been surrendered (worry, care) prevents God from working:

  “If you will put it back in my hand and leave it there, I’ll finish the job. But if you’re going to take it, I can’t finish it.” (25:18, Nancy Dufresne as her mother)

• Signs you’re not letting go:

  • “If you’re thinking about it, that equals worry.” (28:11)

7. The Importance of Following the Holy Spirit (and Not Comparing Your Journey)

• Nancy cites another Hagin vision (Chapter 7), where Jesus explains his “best” for his children (never sick, never operated on, never in accidents) but laments few live in his best because:

  1. They don’t know what belongs to them
  2. Their faith isn’t strong enough to lay hold of it
  3. They’re in disobedience

• All are “fixable.” The solution:

  1. Know what belongs to you
  2. Develop your faith
  3. Obey Him (46:47)

• The Holy Spirit leads in line with your current faith level, not what you wish it was, nor last year’s level.

• Don’t let fear, guilt, or the opinions of others pressure you—success is found in following the Spirit.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On letting Jesus help:

  “How I long to help them, if they would only let me... by taking me at my Word, by bringing me their problems, [and] by trusting me to undertake for them.” (22:23, quoting Hagin’s vision)

• On worry and victory:

  “Anything that you’re worried about is in your hands… If you’re thinking about it, that equals worry.” (28:11)

• On the measure of faith:

  “The Holy Ghost is not going to lead you based on the measure of faith you want to have… He’s going to lead you based on your measure of faith today.” (38:10)

• On God’s “best” for his children:

  “It is my will that none of my children ever be sick, ever be operated on, or ever have accidents. But... very few live in my best.” (44:51, quoting Hagin’s vision with Jesus)

Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment Description | |-----------|--------------------| | 00:12 | Jesus' power is present to heal; faith activates this power | | 02:06 | The story of the blind men in Matthew 20—faith arrests Jesus’ attention | | 05:00 | The open-endedness of Jesus' question: "What do you want me to do for you?" | | 07:48 | How the Word enables God's performance in our lives | | 14:55 | Hagin's vision: Jesus’ longing to answer prayer—“ask me and believe me” | | 22:23 | How to let Jesus help: taking His Word, bringing problems, trusting Him | | 25:18 | Nancy’s knotted chain story—illustrating casting and keeping cares off oneself | | 28:11 | Worry as an indicator of holding onto cares instead of giving them to God | | 38:10 | The Holy Spirit leads according to today’s measure of faith | | 44:51 | Jesus reveals God’s best for His children—and why few live in it | | 46:47 | The three keys to living in God’s best: knowing, developing faith, obeying |

Final Takeaways

• Jesus is ever-ready and even eager to heal, but experiencing that healing requires us to ask, believe, and fully let Him work in our lives.
• Faith is an action; our words and expectations make room for God to move.
• The Holy Spirit’s guidance is always tailored to the faith we actually have—not what we wish or pretend to have.
• The episode emphasizes a practical, relational approach to faith and healing: casting cares, holding to the Word, and attentive obedience.
• Every listener is encouraged: Jesus longs to heal—“let Him” by believing, letting go, and trusting fully.