Podcast Summary: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne – Episode 150 | The Flow Of Joy, Part 3 (January 27, 2023)

Main Theme & Purpose

This episode centers on the biblical principle of “The Flow of Joy,” exploring how, as believers, joy is not just an emotion but an inner spiritual force accessible at any time, regardless of circumstances. Nancy Dufresne builds on prior discussions about the kingdom of God within, specifically focusing on how to cultivate and sustain the flow of righteousness, peace, and joy outlined in Scripture. The episode presents practical ways to draw on this joy and explains its power to sustain, heal, and deliver believers through life's challenges.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Kingdom of God Within You

• Foundation Scriptures (00:10–04:05):
  • Referencing Jesus’ words, “the kingdom of God is within you,” and Paul’s explanation in Romans 14:17: “the kingdom of God is… righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.”
  • Nancy emphasizes, “Because it's in you, you can't accidentally leave it at home... So we're without excuse because it's always within us.” (02:12)
  • Believers are encouraged to actively draw upon what's inside, not just wait for joy or peace to arrive.

Righteousness, Peace, and Joy – What the Kingdom Offers

• Righteousness (04:06–06:11):

  • Understanding our standing in Christ counters shame, fears, or regrets.
  • “We are the righteousness of God in Christ. Not because we've done everything right, but because Jesus did everything right.” (05:05)
  • This allows for boldness before God, as highlighted in Hebrews 4:16.

• Peace (06:12–07:10):

  • The enemy challenges our peace through fear and worry, but peace is an inward resource to be tapped.

• Joy as a Spiritual Force (07:11–09:59):

  • Joy is more than an emotion; it’s “a spiritual force that flows out of the spirit of man. It is the flow of the kingdom that is in us.” (08:11)
  • “Joy is a conductor of the strength of God. When your finances look low, if you'll rejoice over him as your provider, your finances won't stay the same.” (09:05)
  • Living a lifestyle of rejoicing leads to a continual flow of God's strength and power.

Joy as a Lifestyle and Its Ripple Effect

• The Contagious Nature of Joy (09:59–11:38):
  • “The joy that's in you... will help stir the joy that's in someone else that's been dormant. So not only will it refresh you, it will refresh those around you.” (10:36)
  • On her team: “One of the requirements before I'll take someone on the road is they have to be fun. They have to be joyful. If you're not joyful, you stay home.” (10:58)

Yoking and the Lightness of Jesus’ Burden

• Being Yoked with the Right Thing (11:38–13:39):
  • “When people lose their joy, many times it's because they're yoked up with the wrong thing.” (11:50)
  • Jesus’ words: "My yoke is easy and my burden is light." (11:58)
  • Personal account from St. Petersburg, Russia and the message Jesus gave Nancy: “There is no burden to the responsibilities of the anointing... That cross lifts you into the lightness and ease of my flow.” (12:46)
  • Jesus was “anointed with the oil of gladness above his brethren”—He was “the most joyful guy in the place.” (13:21)

Practical Application: Joy as the Exit Strategy

• Joy in Testing Times (13:39–18:50):
  • James 1:2: “My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into diverse tests and temptations.” (15:03)
  • “Circumstances won’t bring you joy, so you bring your joy.” (15:18)
  • “Every place of temptation, every place of testing, the exit road is paved with joy.” (15:39)
  • Nancy’s testimony after her husband's passing: “I worshiped, I praised, I raised my hands and I rejoiced. Why? Because I'm choosing my flow. I'm choosing my future.” (17:56)
  • “Never lay down your joy for a person who enters or exits.” (18:52)

How Rejoicing Works

• Joy as a Spiritual Defense (18:51–23:13):
  • “Rejoicing is the act of faith; it gets your faith moving.” (20:20)
  • “Joy is the bouncer at the door forbidding the entrance of the test. It just says, no, you’re not coming in.” (21:12)
  • At destruction and famine, “I will laugh.” (21:43)
  • “Put on the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness.” (22:29)

Testimony: Joy Breaks Depression

• Personal and Ministry Stories (23:14–25:31):
  • Story of a pastor deeply depressed, visited by Jesus: “Jesus walked in and sat down next to him and put his hand on his knee... and started laughing, just laughed.” (24:00)
  • “He [the pastor] started laughing on purpose... After a period of time, Jesus got up and walked out and he noticed all the depression was gone.” (24:48)
  • “His exit was rejoicing.” (24:56)

Concluding Reminders & Takeaways

• “Joy is a flow of the kingdom of God that’s on the inside of you. You don’t have to wait to feel joyful. You can ha ha ha ha. Right on purpose. Just start rejoicing. Just start laughing in the face of the devil.” (25:33)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Power is present. That power is there to do a work. Believe in what's not, try to get something, but notice that he's already made it yours.” (00:11)
• “We don't have to wait for circumstances to offer us joy because joy's already in us. We brought our own joy.” (08:21)
• “Who wants to be around somebody not joyful?” (10:29)
• Personal test after her husband’s passing: “Because I knew this when my husband left. The plan of God for my life did not leave.” (17:45)
• On facing destruction or famine: “When destruction and famine threatens me, I'll get in the joy flow. That's what that means. Tap on the joy flow.” (21:54)
• On depression: “What is the cure for depression? Put on the garment of praise.” (22:39)
• “If I would have been him [the pastor], and I thought, Jesus gonna come deal with this. Jesus walked in... and started laughing, just laughed.” (24:07)

Important Timestamps

• 00:10 – Foundation: Kingdom of God within, righteousness, peace, and joy
• 07:11 – Joy defined as a spiritual force, drawing on joy
• 10:36 – Contagious nature of joy, influence on others
• 11:58 – Jesus’ “yoke is easy and my burden is light”
• 13:39 – James 1:2: Counting it all joy in times of trial
• 17:45 – Nancy’s testimony after husband’s passing
• 21:12 – Joy as a spiritual defense (“the bouncer at the door”)
• 22:29 – Garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness
• 24:00 – Jesus visits and laughs with a depressed pastor, breaking depression

Final Encouragement

• Joy is an intentional, spiritual act of faith that connects you to the power, strength, and guidance of God—no matter what you face. Joy is always available because the Kingdom is within you; choose it, stir it, and express it daily.

Recommended Action Items:

• Draw on the joy that’s within you regardless of circumstances.
• Practice rejoicing purposefully as a conduit for God’s strength.
• Remember: “You can rejoice your way out of any test, trial, or season of heaviness.”

For Further Listening:
Visit dufresneministries.org for more teachings and resources from Nancy Dufresne.