← Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
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Thank you to Kenneth Copeland Ministries for sowing the airtime for this broadcast.
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There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you. You may be in a sick room, you may be in a hospital room. And I want to remind you, power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what's not. Try to get something, but notice that he's already made it yours. It's present right where you're at. Say, I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now. I receive it right now from the top of my head. From the top of my head. The soles of my feet. The soles of my feet. Welcome. We're so glad to have you with us today for Jesus the healer. We are just loving our time around the Word, and we're so thankful that you love the Word and you honor the Word and you're joining us today because we're all. We're all advancing. Amen. And we are becoming better at being doers of the Word, aren't we? You know, I love something that the Word says over in Proverbs 4, 20, 22. And one of the things it says, it says, his words are life. Not to everybody, but it says to those that find them. And so we're here on this broadcast finding his wor. Because they are life to us. And not only are they life, they give us the best life, don't they? And so we are on a series, and I'm calling it in Christ, we can do it. Amen. And we invite you, go back and watch any previous episodes that you might have missed and get hold of something to take notes on because we're expecting God to speak to you, and we want you to make note of what he would say to you. You know what? When he says something, all the struggle leaves. Amen. When revelation comes, that's the end of difficulty in that arena. So take note of what he would say to you. And have you ever noticed the goodness of God is before you ever reach a test or face a test, God will stock your heart and stalk your life with the answer for that test before it ever shows up. You know, God, God's our Father, and good parents make provision for their children before the children need it.
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I mean, you can go into your children's closet and probably see clothes lined up, shoes lined up. You can go into the kitchen, see food lined up in the pantry. Well, not in my kitchen, but in other people's kitchen. You know, I got a little bit. But there's a provision in there that as parents, we make for our children. God has made full provision for us, and we know this, that we need to have the shelves of our spirit stocked with revelation, stocked with answers, so that when opposition shows up, we're ready with an answer from the Word. You know, the Word tells us that God makes us the head and not the tail. What's that mean? We're in front of situations. We're not to be living a life to where we're going behind what the devil's doing and trying to clean up all the messages, try to clean up all the drama and all the wreckage that he does. No, we're to be in front of things, not behind things. And so this is what we're believing God for you is that as you listen to these broadcasts, that there's answers that come, that you might not recognize that you need them today, but there's going to be a day that you're going to need the answer of the Word in this situation or in this arena, and you're going to have a ready answer. Now, ladies, I can talk to you for a minute. You know how when you go into a store and you find a pair of shoes and you have nothing those shoes go with, but you need the shoes. You need the shoes. And you say, I need the shoes because I'm going to find something to go with the shoes, right? And you go, oh, I'm so glad I got those shoes. Look at the dress I found, too. You know, what is that then? You're ready with. You're ready to go out in that. Well, it's the same thing. You're ready to spend the revelation whenever you receive what God says. And it stocks the shells of your life. So that when opposition shows up, you say, I already know what to do with that. I already know how to think about that. I already know what to say to that. And that's what we're believing for. Not just cleanup help, but putting you in front of situations. Amen. So that you have ready answers for your life. Thank God the Word will help us clean up our life because in the sense of we've all needed to catch up. Have you ever gotten behind in some things? Yeah. Well, if you can get behind, you can catch up, too. Spiritually, we can get behind, but we can catch up. I mean, we can get behind in prayer, but we can catch up. We can get behind in faith. We can catch up. We can get behind maybe in giving, but we can catch up. Amen. And so there are times that we might need some catch up help, but there's also some times that we just need to keep the closets fully stocked so that when a need arises, we go. Already got the answer for that. Amen. In this series, we have been using as a beginning place the story that Brother Copeland told. My goodness, I love it so much. And he was talking about when God spoke to him and said, this was back in the 1970s, as some, as the kids today say, in the 1900s. Back in the 1900s, I think. Were all of y' all born in the 1900s? All of y'.
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Okay, so we're not too far off, but the younger kids today, that's their. That's their thing. It's not so funny. But when they say, were you alive in the 1900s? Well, most of us were. But back in 1970, God spoke to Brother Copeland and he was. He was not at that point debt free. He was younger in his ministry. He was learning the truths of prosperity, and he was learning to become skillful with them. But God said to him, I want you to sow $50,000 to Kenneth Hagin's ministry. That's a large amount even today. But he did not, if I could say this, derail when he heard that instruction, because he had learned the proper answer by having the proper thoughts. And this is Brother Copeland's response to when God said that. He said, in Christ I have it, and in Christ I can give it. Now, he didn't mean in my finances, I have it, or in my bank account I have it. He just knew that if God commanded something of him, told him to do something, it was because God was ready to bring that supply to him so that he could fulfill what God said. God is not asking you if you have it. He's asking you if you're willing to be a channel for it. Amen. So when God commanded of him, give $50,000 to Brother Hagin's ministry, then he was letting Brother Copeland know what supply he was ready to manifest through Brother Copeland. And he said, yes. And it came to pass. But I so loved Brother Copeland's answer. In Christ I have it, and in Christ I can give it. How? That settles everything of what God would tell us to do. What about the plan of God? Have you ever there's facets maybe of your life or of the plan of God for your life that you go, wow, Your mind would go on tilt if you try to calculate that too much? God doesn't want you to figure it out. He just wants you to agree with it. Those who agree with it set themselves up to be a channel for God to work it through them. So when you in Christ I can fulfill that plan in Christ I can have what God said I can have. Amen. And so this has to become our first response is in Christ I can. In Christ, that can come to pass. Have you ever noticed that everything God commands of you is absolutely impossible? Why? Because if it's possible, you don't need Him. So he always speaks the impossible to us. Let's not reject it because we're trying to calculate how we can do it. He never intends that we do it apart from him. When God commands us of something, he's telling us what he's offering of Himself to do through us. Listen, if God commands it and he offers it, why not say yes? Amen. God has spoken to me about properties and things that he's going to give us and bring to pass. And so I say, go ahead and do it. I'm ready to sit back and watch the show. I want to see how he's going to do it. Not because I doubt he can do it, but because when he does it, it's something to watch. Amen. I remember back in 19. No, not 19, not 1900s, no, back in 2014. Well, I have to back up even before that, in 2011, my husband and I had just bought a different home. And on move in day, God said to me, he said, you'll only be in this home for four years. Well, when a man is carrying furniture into a house, you don't say, honey, by the way, God just said that we're going to be moving into another home. No, I didn't say a word to my husband. I thought, this is not the time. Can I tell you? The wisdom is knowing when, when to say something. Husbands and wives, there's some counsel for you. Just because you know it doesn't mean it's time to say it. And so I never said anything to my husband about what God said to me when he said, you'll only be in this home for four years. And it was at the two and a half year mark that my husband was. He went to heaven. So it really, that word didn't really involve him. I didn't know that when God said it that it wouldn't involve him. But at the two and a half year mark, my husband went home to be with the Lord. About two weeks after he went home to be with the Lord God, I was walking in the hallway in my home. And God said to me, he said, you'll remember I told you that you'll only be in this house for four years. Well, I had so much on my plate when my husband, when he, when he went home to be with the Lord, projects that had to be finished, much ministry work to oversee, much traveling to do that I really wasn't naturally speaking in a position of interest in another home at that point. The home I was in was lovely. It was a blessing to me. And God said, now you'll remember I told you there's another home. And I said, yes. I was trying to forget that. Why? Because I wasn't looking to add something more to the plate. And I realized this about God and he's not concerned about our convenience. And he will bring up things that what seems to be a most inopportune time. Why is it because when it's not convenient for us, that's the time when it's most apparent that he's the only one that can do it right. And so I had much financial responsibility on me at that time in the sense of my name was on everything. And I was just not looking to add an additional home. And it was in 2011 that God initially said that to me. In 2013, God reminded me of it. And in 2014, I had told God, when he reminded me, he said, you'll remember I told you there's another home. And I said, yes. But I said, I'm not looking for it. I'm not going to make, you know, go out and beat the bushes, so to speak, to find it. I said, I'm just going to trust you to bring that across my path. And that just seemed the right flow. And so I was invited by our Bible school students. They were going to go on a field trip and they were going to go see the home. It was the vacation home of Amy Semple McPherson. Now she was an evangelist in the 1900s, the early part of the 1900s, before me in the 1900s. And I knew that home was there and I'd never seen it. And they said, do you want to go see it? And they said, our class is going to go see it. And I said, yeah, I'll go with you. But when I walked on the property, my spirit started getting thrilled. And I noticed it. I recognized it was something on the inside. It wasn't something up here. It wasn't something that just naturally drew me, it was something inside. So I walked through that property and I told my daughter in law, I Said, I want this house. Well, it wasn't for sale. You know, you can decide you want something, but it wasn't for sale. So I didn't really go beyond that. I just recognized there was a fit. And so about two weeks after that, the power of God came in my room where I was at, in my home. And God said to me, I'm going to describe that next home. And he told me four things about the next home that he had for me. And I said, okay. He just told me just natural characteristics about it. The next night he came, that same anointing power of God came in my room and he said, I'm going to describe your next home. And he told me the exact same four things that he said the night before. But this second night he said that he added the fifth thing and he said, it's Amy Semple McPherson's home. And I go, oh, no. Oh no, no, no. Because that home was a renovation. It wasn't just a home, it was a renovation because it was almost 100 years old. Lovely home. But you know, when the mind kicks in and I've got all these projects on the table, I'm not looking for another one, but in Christ. In Christ. In Christ. And so after the mind settled down, you know what I'm talk. Anybody else know what I'm talking about or is it just me singing a solo here? Once the mind settled down and I started looking here, there was the witness of the spirit. And so of course I'm going to agree not only that I love change, I like something new, and let's do it, you know, let's just do it. So God worked. And I'm not going to tell all the story of how it came to pass, but the ones who owned it agreed to sell it to me. And so that was the first home I ever paid cash for. Because I agreed to the plan of God, I moved into a paid for flow. That was the beginning. And from then on, every other thing of my life in ministry started getting paid off. Why? Because I said yes to one aspect of God's plan and it was connected to every aspect of God's plan financially. Now, after the previous owner had agreed to sell it to me, they said, nancy, we agreed, I agree to sell it to you, but it's going to have to go through three different boards that there are other boards that have to agree. I'm not alone in this sale. I have to get their approval. And so it would be a process. And so I said, okay. And as we started through that process, it seemed to me that there. It slowed down. It quit making the same amount of progress. And it wasn't just that we were waiting for board votes or boards to approve it. It seemed to me that something in the spirit was behind. So I went for a walk one evening, and I said, God, this has been stalled. This project is stalled in its movement ahead. And I said, I don't know if I'm right, but it seems that way to me. If that's right, I'm asking you to talk to me about that. And he said, yes. He said, because your plan is to finance the home and then take the amount of cash that you do have and renovate it. I said, that's a good plan. Isn't that. That's a good plan. Because I wanted to move into a renovated home. I didn't want to move into it and then have to live in it while it's being renovated. So my plan was to finance the home and then pay whatever cash I had to renovate. God said, that's not my plan. And I go, okay, what is your plan? And he said, my plan is you pay cash for the home. And I said, no, no, that's not my plan. Because that meant then I won't have cash on hand to renovate at that time. And that means a longer process. Can I tell you this? First the blade, then the ear, then the full corn in the ear. Faith has to not just love the manifestation, faith has to choose to love the process. That's what that's talking about, that we have to be patient to take the process, because in Christ, he will lead us through the processes of faith. And so that's where the delay was, was that I had a plan of how it was going to come to pass financially. But it wasn't what God said, because I had a plan. I didn't even bother to ask God, what's your plan for Purch? Because I had a plan for purchase. Does that make sense? I am so keen on hearing from God because I know that that's where my safety is. When you hear from God, you remove all risk. But when I heard, I knew that it was a plan of God for me to have that home. I knew it would come into my hands. But then when it comes to every step, I started inserting my plan. And it's so easy to do. But notice in. And it's in the Book of Acts. In him we live. Look at this. In him we move. I was moving partially in him, but partially in me. When I came up with how the purchase was going to happen. My plan was different than his plan. So I didn't. I didn't even ask him until that day, until there was delay. I sensed that there had been a delay in the advancement of this. So when I heard what God said, he said, it's not my plan for you to finance the home and then use your cash to renovate. It's my plan that you pay off the home. I said, okay. When I heard that, then within 11 days, that home was in my name. 11 days. What was it? My plan delayed his plan. When we're in Christ, we have to completely go with his plan. We cannot mingle our plan in with his plan. It's all of Him. You understand? It's all his plan. It's all his approach to something. It wasn't enough that I heard the home was mine. How am I to move for it to be mine? And then, not only that. When I bought the house, I bought a renovation. I've said that before, because the home deserves to be brought up to its level of the best it could be. I love the rich history of the home. It's a unique home. I want that thing to shine. God didn't give it to me so that it could stay as it was. He wanted it to be what I wanted it to be. And so in that, he wants to fulfill every desire that I would have toward that home. But I know this. That takes finances to renovate. We're in the process now of renovating that home. And it's been a complete joy. But can I tell you, the process of renovation has looked different than what I thought it would be. Why? He in Christ, he has already planned every aspect. So it's not just hearing one phase of what he planned all along the way. Stay in Christ. Does that make sense in his plan? Stay with his plan for every single aspect. Because we can do one part of the plan following him and one part of the plan following us. That's the danger. Stay, Ask him all along the way. Now, it's important that God gave me that home to learn this. Why? Because there's other bigger projects that are in the future. And I have to learn this process in my own private life, dealing with personal properties so that I have skill when it comes to ministry. Properties that involve more than me. Amen. God will give you your personal life to practice on. Why? So that when you're involved in projects that are beyond your personal life and involve someone else, he wants you to do that with skill. Not with hope. This works. He wants you to know how he moves and how he operates. So know this, that to move in Christ is to obey him at every turn, every move that you make, you know, if God told you to start a business, it's not enough to hear God tell you to start a business. It's what do I do financially? Where do I have that business? Who do I hire to help me in the business? There's so many layers of obedience that's called for. Don't start in Christ and then flip over to in the flesh, in the mental arena. That's what I did. Not trying to, but I did that with Sister Amy's home. I started in Christ and then flipped over to my plan. I wasn't doing that maliciously. I wasn't doing it intentionally. It was just seemed natural to go that way. But God wants to bring us into a higher flow with every step. Amen. And so my, my, my, there's a skill to obedience, and the skill to obedience is here at every turn. What to do and can I tell you, when we stop asking God is when we think we know that's a danger to think we know. Fred Price used to have a sermon called Faith Foolishness or Presumption, such an important teaching. He talks about the difference between those what's faith, what's foolishness, or what's presumption? What presumption is, is moving ahead, presuming you know but you haven't heard from God. That's presumption. That we don't ask God because we think we know. That's a dangerous place. If we think we know, why do we think we know? Is it because we've planned something or because we heard from him? So don't think you know unless you've asked him first. Amen. People say, well, if God wants me to know, he'll just tell me. You know what Jesus said? Jesus said, the Father knows what you have need of even before you ask. Just because God knows you need something does not dismiss us from asking, because it's when we ask that we give him permission to tell us what he knows. And so I didn't ask God about the financing. I thought I knew. And because it wasn't until I asked him that he had permission to impart his wisdom to me. And people think, well, if I need the wisdom, God will just give it to me. No, not automatically he won't. He waits for your invitation. And what does it say in James? We have not because we ask not. Amen. And people Think. Well, God knows I need money. It doesn't matter that he knows. You still have to ask. Can I tell you why you still have to ask? Because knowledge doesn't equal permission. If one of these studio audience right here, if one of them opened their wallet and I saw that they had five $100 bills, I have knowledge that they have that. But that's not permission to. Right? Even so, God knows what we have need of, but that's not permission to supply it. Not until we ask him, not until we look to him, not till we rely upon Him. So in Christ, look to him, rely upon his guidance and don't assume we know we have to take time to hear. And what we hear will lead us into his best. Amen. Well, this is part of the joyous life in Christ, right? What is it involving Him? Not doing something apart from Him. But in Christ, we can fulfill everything that he has for us because we involve Him. We lean on him and we obey Him. Amen. Well, we want to give you some homework. And that homework is go to our website@jesusthehealer.org and you can download in him scriptures. And this is what it looks at, looks like when you print it out. And these are scriptures for you to meditate on so that you can, you can drive that revelation of who you are in him into your spirit and who he is in you. Amen. And remember, until next time, Jesus is the healer. God bless you.
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When God increases you, every single arena of your life will increase. In this book that I've written called I have a Supply, you will learn how rich and unending your supply is from heaven, how to receive of that supply and make it a reality in your everyday life. You can order your copy at Jesus the God bless you. This is Nancy Dufresne and I want to extend an invitation to you to become a partner with Dufresne Ministries. Today. God bless you.
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