Podcast Summary: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast

Episode 774 | “In Christ I Can, Part 14”
Release Date: June 19, 2025
Host: Nancy Dufresne, Dufresne Ministries

Main Theme & Purpose

This episode centers on the revelation of what it means to be “in Christ” and the power and provision that come from embracing God’s plan with faith-filled obedience. Nancy Dufresne explores how the believer’s mindset, responses, and practices can position them ahead of challenges, drawing from faith, healing, and real-life testimonies. The episode emphasizes stocking up on God’s Word, actively listening for His guidance, and refusing to intermix human reasoning into divine instruction.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Ever-Present Power of God

• Every location, even “every sick room and every hospital room,” contains enough power to heal (00:11).
  • “I want to remind you, power is present. That power is there to do a work...” (00:16)
• The believer’s response is to receive what God has already made available.
  • Practice: Nancy leads the listener in a confession to receive God’s healing power (00:22).

2. Provision Before the Need

• God, as a wise Father, stocks the believer’s life with revelation and provision before tests or difficulties arise (01:57).
  • Analogy: Like parents prepare their home for their children’s future needs, God pre-loads answers into our spirit.

3. The Importance of Spiritual Readiness

• Keep the “shelves of our spirit stocked with revelation, stocked with answers” so when opposition arises, we are ready with God’s Word (02:41).
  • “So that when opposition shows up, you say, I already know what to do with that.” (03:40)
• Connection to Proverbs 4:20–22: God’s words bring life, especially to “those that find them” (00:53).

4. Moving From Behind to Ahead

• Believers aren't called to live reactively, always cleaning up after the devil’s mess, but to be “the head and not the tail”—living in front of circumstances, not behind (03:00).

5. God’s Call to the Impossible—Testimony of Provision

• Story from Kenneth Copeland: God told him to give an offering far beyond his means at the time. His response:
  • “In Christ I have it, and in Christ I can give it.” (06:43)
• Nancy highlights: when God gives a seemingly impossible command, He’s asking if you’re willing to be a channel, not if you possess the resources in the natural (06:43–09:10).
  • “Everything God commands of you is absolutely impossible. Why? Because if it’s possible, you don’t need Him.” (09:47)
  • “Those who agree with it set themselves up to be a channel for God to work through them.” (08:19)

6. Personal Story: Obeying God in Buying a House

• Nancy recounts God telling her she’d only be in her current house for four years (10:32).
  • “When a man is carrying furniture into a house, you don’t say, ‘Honey, by the way, God just said that we’re going to be moving into another home.’ No, I didn’t say a word to my husband.” (11:12)
• She visits Amy Semple McPherson’s historic home and feels a spiritual witness, later confirmed by God (13:50).
• God reveals both that the house will come into her hands and gives detail on the process (15:59, 17:22).
• She plans to finance the house and use cash for renovations, but God corrects her:
  • “My plan is you pay cash for the home.” (19:37)
• The deal stalls until she aligns her plan with God’s – then the sale completes in 11 days (21:10).
  • “What was it? My plan delayed his plan. When we’re in Christ, we have to completely go with his plan. We cannot mingle our plan in with his plan.” (21:54)
• This step of obedience ushers in a new flow of provision:
  • “I moved into a paid-for flow…every other thing of my life and ministry started getting paid off…because I said yes to one aspect of God’s plan and it was connected to every aspect of God’s plan financially.” (18:38)

7. The Process Matters, Not Just the Manifestation

• Faith is not only about loving the miraculous outcome but “choosing to love the process” God leads you through (20:48).
  • “First the blade, then the ear, then the full corn in the ear. Faith has to not just love the manifestation, faith has to choose to love the process.” (20:40)
• Each step of the journey requires tuning into God and checking in for new instructions (22:35).
  • “To move in Christ is to obey him at every turn, every move that you make…” (23:59)

8. Skill in Obedience: Avoiding Presumption

• Caution against presuming you know God’s plan without asking Him at every step.
  • Reference: Fred Price’s teaching “Faith, Foolishness, or Presumption” (24:15).
  • “What presumption is, is moving ahead, presuming you know but you haven’t heard from God.” (24:30)
• It’s not enough that “God knows” your need; your asking gives Him permission to impart wisdom and provision (25:34).
  • “Knowledge doesn’t equal permission.” (26:01)

9. Invitation to Meditate on “In Him” Scriptures

• Nancy encourages listeners to download and meditate on “In Him” scriptures to reinforce their new creation identity (26:40).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On God’s Provision:
  • “God is not asking you if you have it. He's asking you if you're willing to be a channel for it.” — Nancy Dufresne (07:44)
• On Facing the Impossible:
  • “Have you ever noticed that everything God commands of you is absolutely impossible? Why? Because if it's possible, you don't need Him.” — Nancy Dufresne (09:47)
• On Divine Process vs. Human Planning:
  • “It wasn't enough that I heard the home was mine. How am I to move for it to be mine?” — Nancy Dufresne (22:15)
• On Presumption:
  • “What presumption is, is moving ahead, presuming you know but you haven’t heard from God.” — Nancy Dufresne, referencing Fred Price (24:30)
• On Repeated Obedience:
  • “When we stop asking God is when we think we know. That’s a danger to think we know.” — Nancy Dufresne (24:50)
• On God’s Invitation to Supply:
  • “Knowledge doesn’t equal permission.” — Nancy Dufresne (26:01)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:11–01:44 – Opening confession on receiving God’s healing power
• 02:00–03:50 – Stocking your spirit for spiritual readiness
• 05:55–09:10 – Brother Copeland testimony and principle: “In Christ I have it, in Christ I can give it”
• 10:32–25:34 – Nancy’s personal testimony of faith and obedience in acquiring a home
• 20:40–21:10 – Explanation of faith in the process, not just the outcome
• 24:14–26:01 – Warning about presumption vs. faith; the necessity of continued asking
• 26:40–27:00 – Closing: Encouragement to meditate on “In Him” scriptures

Takeaway & Listener Challenges

• Ask, Listen, and Fully Obey: Don’t act on presumption—ask God about every aspect of His assignments for your life.
• Stock Up Spiritually: Make a habit of receiving and meditating on God’s Word before challenges arise.
• Love the Process: Trust God not only for results, but for the journey and every step He directs.
• Stay In Christ: Do not switch from spirit to self-management mid-journey—faith is required at every turn.

Homework Assignment:
Download the “In Him Scriptures” from Nancy’s website (26:40) and meditate daily to deepen revelation of your identity and capabilities in Christ.

Final Thought:
“In Christ, we can fulfill everything that He has for us because we involve Him, we lean on Him, and we obey Him.” — Nancy Dufresne (26:44)