Podcast Summary: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
Episode 775 | “In Christ I Can, Part 15”
Date: June 20, 2025

Episode Overview

In this episode, Nancy Dufresne continues her teaching series “In Christ I Can,” with Part 15 focusing on the practical and supernatural realities of living “in Christ.” The discussion centers on learning to rely on God’s power and supply instead of human resources, renewing the mind to what belongs to us in Christ, and recognizing the vital role of obedience, faith, and even angelic help in God’s provision. The episode features personal and ministry testimonies—especially a remarkable account involving angelic intervention and miraculous church provision—to illustrate these spiritual truths.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Ever-Present Power of God (00:10–00:46)

• Nancy opens by affirming that God’s healing power is present everywhere, especially for those in need.
  • Quote (00:10):
    “There’s enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one... Power is present. That power is there to do a work.”
  • Practical Response: Listeners are encouraged to receive God’s power by faith, declaring it over themselves.
  • Quote (00:46):
    “Say, I receive that power. I receive it right now. From the top of my head to the soles of my feet.”

Renewing the Mind to Our Identity In Christ (00:52–05:00)

• The importance of renewing one’s mind to what Christ has already accomplished and made available.
  • Nancy reviews earlier parts of the series and recounts a testimony by Kenneth Copeland, where God instructed him to give an offering larger than what he possessed.
  • Key Concept (01:50):
    “Anything we try to do outside of Christ will fail. But if we’ll do it in Him… He intends to fulfill everything He tells us to do.”
  • Strategy for Answering God:
    Don’t assess your natural resources first; instead, “get counsel with who we are in Christ.”

Obedience and Divine Partnership (05:00–09:00)

• Main Point: God’s plan for your life is fulfilled not by your ability or education but by His own ability working through you.
  • Quote (04:56):
    “God never intended for you to fulfill [His plan] with your own abilities, your own education…He gives you something greater to depend on, and that’s Himself.”
  • Co-Laboring with God:
    Jesus said, “My Father in me, He does the works.”
    • “He’s the laborer and we’re the co-laborer…”

Testimony: Angels Sent to Straighten Financial Needs (09:00–20:00)

• Nancy recounts a dramatic testimony from her late husband, Ed Dufresne, illustrating how the supply of God works supernaturally.
  • Background: As a young pastor, Ed needed $126,000 to secure a church building but had only received $10,000 in offerings.
  • Angelic Encounter (12:04–13:40):
    Ed stayed in his hotel room at God’s prompting and saw two angels who announced:
    • Quote (13:20):
      “We have been sent from the throne room of heaven to straighten out your finances.”
    • The angels then awaited “the faith command.” Ed responds by declaring Philippians 4:19 and commissions the angels, who immediately disappear to fulfill the assignment.
  • Insight (14:35):
    “The angels hearken to the word of God… that doesn’t just mean the word out of God’s mouth: it means God’s word in your mouth.”

Distinguishing Between Relief and Victory (20:00–24:00)

• The congregation’s businessmen offered to collectively buy the building, making the church a tenant—a human solution, but not God’s victory.
  • God’s Wisdom (21:55):
    “You’re having difficulties with one landlord right now. What are you going to do with 126 landlords?”
  • Key Principle (22:32):
    “Don’t ever accept relief when God intends you have victory. Relief does not equal victory.”

Unusual Provision Through an Unlikely Source (24:00–27:00)

• Two days before the deadline, a non-member (who didn’t even like Ed’s preaching) brings a cashier’s check for $126,000, compelled by the persistent urging of “two fellows” (angels) in his room.
  • Later, the same man is prompted to pay off the remaining $374,000 after a prophetic call from a guest minister.
  • Quote (26:10):
    “Well, those two fellows are back in my room, and they told me to bring $374,000 to pay off this building. And he did.”
• Important Takeaway:
  When Ed asked why God did more than he was believing for, God replied:
  • Quote (26:45):
    “Just because you wouldn’t compromise with those 126 businessmen.”
  • Key lesson: Don’t settle for less than what God wants to do.

The Role of Angels and Patterns of God’s Dealings (27:00–29:00)

• Angelic Assistance in the Christian Life:
  • Hebrews 1:14 is cited—angels are “ministering spirits sent forth to minister for those who are heirs of salvation.”
  • God told Ed:“If you will talk more about those angels that paid off that building, they’ll do more of it.”
  • Quote (29:06):
    “What we rehearse, God repeats.”
  • Nancy encourages listeners to recognize personal patterns in how God communicates, such as her example of hearing from God in her car.

Living with Spiritual Boldness and Expectation (29:00–31:00)

• Nancy urges listeners to rehearse and partner with God’s patterns, to expect divine help, angelic assistance, and to walk in the fullness of what Christ has made available.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Power and Presence (00:10):
  “There’s enough power in every sick room and hospital room to raise up that sick one… That power is present. That power is there to do a work.”
• On the Faith Command (13:43):
  “We’re waiting on the faith command.”
  — The angels sent to help Ed Dufresne
• On Divine Relief vs. Human Solutions (22:32):
  “Don’t ever accept relief when God intends you have victory. Relief does not equal victory.”
• On Angelic Help (27:45):
  “Every single one of us has an angel to assist us in fulfilling the plan of God. That’s part of what belongs to us in Christ.”
• On God’s Patterns (28:30):
  “If you’ll learn the pattern, then you’ll learn how to give access to God.”

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:10–00:46 — Declaring God’s power is present to heal
• 01:50–05:00 — Opening theme on renewing the mind and being “in Christ”
• 09:00–20:00 — Testimony: Angels straighten Ed Dufresne’s finances
• 20:00–24:00 — Businessmen’s offer: relief vs. victory
• 24:00–27:00 — Provision through a visitor and guest minister’s word
• 27:00–29:00 — Teaching on angels, patterns, and rehearsing what God has done

Conclusion

Nancy Dufresne’s message is a faith-filled encouragement to live from the reality of what Christ has purchased for every believer—provision, power, supernatural help, and more. She urges listeners to renew their minds, obey God’s promptings, recognize spiritual patterns, refuse to compromise, and boldly speak the Word, thereby releasing heaven’s resources—including angelic assistance—for every assignment and need.

Key Takeaway:
Everything available to Christ—healing, provision, and miraculous assistance—is available to believers in Him, contingent on faith, obedience, and spiritual partnership.

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