← Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
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Nancy Dufresne
Thank you to Kenneth Copeland Ministries for sowing the airtime for this broadcast.
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There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you. You may be in a sick room, you may be in a hospital room. And I want to remind you, power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what's not. Try to get something, but notice that he's already made it yours. It's present right where you're at. Say, I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now.
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I receive it right now from the.
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Top of my head. From the top of my head. The soles of my feet. The soles of my feet. Welcome. We're so glad to have you with us today for Jesus the healer. And we just want you to know that we are expecting God to give you answers for your life. Amen. Listen when you hear. When you hear from him, the struggle's over. And I don't know about you, I'm done with struggle. I've had enough struggle in my life to last me a lifetime. And I'm not going there anymore. And the Word puts us in the flow to where remember what Jesus said. He said. He said, all you that labor and are heavy laden and come to me. I'll give you rest. My yoke is easy, My burden is light. There's no struggle in any of that. And so if we're struggling, what's that mean? There's more to learn. That's exactly what that means. And so we're learning, aren't we? And we're so glad that you're with us today on these episodes. We've been in a series that I'm calling in Christ. We can do it. And we're talking about what it means to be in Christ. What's that mean? That we're relying on the Greater One in us to do the work through us. And he can only work through us as far as we will yield to Him. So we're learning what that looks like. How do we yield to Him? We obey Him. When we obey the word of God, we are allowing Christ in us to manifest. Whenever we obey what the Spirit of God says to us, then we are allowing him his rightful place in us. And so obedience to God is everything of how we're going to respond. You know, I remember I said to God years ago, anybody ever said stuff years ago that you that showed how much you didn't know. And I remember I said to God one day, I Said, how come I sensed your presence yesterday more than today? And I was really basically saying, you're not showing up the same way. I was really putting it off on him, you know? And he said, the reason you sensed me more yesterday than today is because you yielded to me more yesterday than today. In other words, I was the variable, not Him. He's always the same. So Christ in you is always the same. But how much we yield and respond and depend on who's in us determines how much he can work in us and through us. So it's our job to become skillful at yielding to Him. How do we become skillful at yielding? We obey what he tells us to do. We obey His Word, and we obey what he would say to us by His Spirit. Everything God has for us to do, he never intended to leave Himself out of that. He intended. When he gives us a command, he intends to do it through us, not just us trying to jump through hoops and loops to make him happy. Amen. He's not a hard taskmaster, you know. God is not hard to please. I said, he is not hard to please. And he lets us know how we can please him. Because it says In Hebrews, chapter 11, verse 6, without faith, it's impossible to please Him. So what's that mean? Faith pleases Him. He lets us know what pleases Him. So when we depend on the Christ in us, that's faith. And that pleases Him. Why does it not please him when we're not in faith? It's because he wants to do so much through us and so much for us and so much in us that when we are not operating or moving in faith, we hinder him from being able to do what he wants to do. And it doesn't please him when we don't allow him to be who he is in us. Amen. He doesn't want to see us struggle. Does any parent want to say, I like watching my children struggle? No. You know, if we see a toddler go to reach for something and we know that they can't reach it on their own, we immediately get up and we go over there and we get it for them and we hand it to them. Why we're not going to sit there and enjoy their struggle of something they can't do. God is so much better than any parent that's ever lived on this earth. He does not enjoy watching his children struggle. But what we have to do is allow him to be who he is to us and through us and in us. Amen. So the more we yield to him, the more he can move and manifest through us. Now, in this series, we're basically teaching on in Christ, I can do it. Not in me, but in him. And we invite you. Any episodes you may have missed previously, go back and watch them. We've been using at the top of every episode, I refer to a testimony that Brother Kenneth Copeland gave. And he was telling about how in the 1970s, God gave him a command. He said, I want you to sow $50,000 to Kenneth Hagin's ministry. And of course, Brother Copeland agreed with that and ultimately ended up doing that. And that command was fulfilled. But when Brother Copeland first heard that command, he was in debt. He was just learning the principles of prosperity, and he did not have the resources to give that kind of a gift. But notice what he did. I love this testimony because his answer to God when he heard, I want you to give $50,000, was he said, in Christ I have it, and in Christ I can do it. When God commands something of you, he's not just commanding something something of you, he's offering something to you. Amen. Amen. And he's offering himself to work through you what he just commanded. Now get that. So when Brother Copeland heard God say, I want you to sow $50,000, God was offering not just a hard task, he was offering him $50,000. And if brother Copeland would not have agreed and added his yes to that command, have had the permission to perform it through him. But when he gave this skillful answer that said, in Christ I have it, and in Christ I can do it. Now, God had permission to manifest that supply through him. Remarkable. When God commands something. Because, can I tell you this? God's not suggesting something, not suggesting everything. We're soldiers. Soldiers don't receive suggestions from their commanding officers. And so we need to recognize if God is commanding something of us, it's not to turn our life hard, it's to bless us even further. Amen. Now, I want to read to you out of Psalm chapter 112. In verse one, it reads, Praise ye the Lord. Blessed is the man that feareth the Lord. This word fear is honor, reverence that regards God. So blessed is the man that honors God. Now, if we're going to honor him, we're going to agree with him. How many of you, you learned this in life? God knows more than me. You learn that, you quit offering him your suggestions. If God commands something of us, it's because he knows something more than what we know. Even if we would have Never done it. We would have never thought to go a certain direction or do a certain thing or sow a certain item. You. If God tells us to do it, it's because he knows something further than what we know. I remember I said to God years ago, because I don't consider myself just naturally adventurous. You know, there are some people, if they hear something, they go, come on, let's go. Now, I do like spontaneity. I do like change. But I like them, you know, close by, not adventurous, you know, and so I'm not that adventurous. And so I enjoy travel in our country. I like it a lot. I'm used to it. I like traveling. But when I would go to other countries, it was like. Because it's foreign to me. It wasn't always as comfortable to my flesh. And God would begin speaking to my husband and I years ago about traveling to other nations. And I remember saying to God, I said, you know, there's so many preachers who are just. They love going to other countries. Why don't you tell them to go? You know, I'm offering God help, right? Well, help he doesn't need. And so I just said, that would just be great if you offered somebody who really loved. They were adventurous, they loved world travels. I'm sure they'd be thrilled to do that. And God said something to me. He said, because I want more for you than you want for yourself. In other words, he'll take us places that we would have never dreamed of going on our own. Why? Because he knows more than us. Amen. So here in Psalm chapter 112, verse 1. Again, it says, blessed is the man that fears or honors the Lord. What's he going to do? He's going to agree with God instead of argue with him. He's going to agree with God instead of offering reasons why he can't. So blessed is the man that fears or honors the Lord. Look at the next phrase. That delights greatly in his commands. Brother Copeland delighted greatly in the command of give $50,000. He didn't struggle with it. He didn't try to talk God out of it. He didn't reason why he couldn't do it. He delighted greatly by agreeing. How did he agree? In Christ I have it, and in Christ I can give it. And he ultimately ended up fulfilling his role in that. But I want you to see this. That the blessed man, According to Psalm 112, he delights greatly in God's commands. He's not hoping. Oh, I hope God doesn't tell me to do this. I hope God doesn't tell me to go there. I hope God doesn't tell me to say this or minister to that person or witness to that person. No. The blessed man delights greatly when God commands something of him. Why? Because he's eager to hear God's command. He doesn't treat God's commands as a hardship. The Word tells us that God's commands are not grievous. They'll not grieve your life. They'll bless your life. I remember the testimony of a man that he recorded in a book that he wrote that years ago he had been in a car wreck and he was killed and ended up spending some time in heaven. He was raised from the dead. God brought him back, and he came back and wrote a book telling some of the things he saw in heaven. In the course of his experience of being there, he saw much of heaven. He interacted with the different ones in heaven. And towards the end of his time there, Jesus spoke to him and said, it is the Father's will that we go and visit the lower parts. So basically, he took him and he saw glimpses of hell. And when Jesus told this man, it is the Father's will that we go and glimpse this place, and he said, in his own reaction there in heaven, he said, he. He drew back like he did not want to do that. And Jesus immediately rebuked him and said, my Father's will is never grievous. In other words, Jesus had learned immediately, lean into what God says. Don't draw back. Because what's that mean? You're thinking about what you don't want to do because you think what God has commanded is going to take something from you. Everything God commands puts more in you. It brings more. And this is what Psalm chapter 112 means. The blessed man, he delights greatly in the commands of God. Why, he's eager. Eager to obey something of God because he knows that when he obeys, he only ends up more blessed than he was. Praise God. Amen. And so whenever we hear a command of God and it's beyond what we can do in ourselves, God is offering us himself to fulfill it. You get that? That's what in Christ means. He's offered himself to. To do these works through us. Now remember Jesus in his earthly ministry out, cleansing the leper, raising the dead, healing the sick, opening blind eyes, ministering to the needs of the people. And at one point, he tells the people, he said, my Father in me, he does the works. Now listen. God offered Himself to manifest through Jesus. And Jesus said, yes. That's what an in Christ man does. We say, yes, manifest through us. And we believe that God will be able to work through us what we never could work. God does not ask us to go heal the sick. He asks us to go lay hands on the sick. He'll do the healing. We can't heal anybody. Amen. I can't heal myself. You can't heal yourself. But you can certainly depend and rely and respond to the one who's in you, who is the healer. Amen. And the provider and the joy giver and the victory. All you have to do is learn to yield to who and what is in you. Amen. Now this is what in Christ means. And this is the skill of Brother Copeland's answer that day when he said, in Christ I have it and in Christ I can give it. We have to give ourselves that spiritual response, make that our habit, that we don't go first to the mental arena to try to figure out how to do what God just commanded. But we immediately turn and lean on the one who's in us to perform what God just said to us. Listen, God never gave us a command for us to perform. He gave us a command so that we could believe him to perform. He's looking to perform. I said, he's looking to perform. The Word says that the eyes of the Lord run to and fro through the whole earth. He's looking for someone to show himself strong through. He wants to show himself. Too many times, we think we're the ones that have to put on the show. Nope. All we have to do is be available to him. He's the one putting on the show. Amen. And that's what Jesus made the statement of. He said, my Father in me, he does the works. That's what Brother Copeland was saying when he heard give $50,000, he knew it was God in him that was going to bring that to pass. What's God offered you? What's God commanded of you? He's offering himself to perform it. Amen. Has God told you start that business? He'll perform it if you'll say yes. Now, do you have a part to play? Yes. You have to have faith enough to say yes, faith enough to keep moving. But you obey what he tells you to do. You don't even have to come up with the steps. You know, we know this, that faith is an act. But you don't have to figure out what that act is. God will even tell you what the act is. What doesn't work is when we try to come up with an act that we try to. If I could say this, some people act trying to force the hand of God. That's not. That's not acting on the word. You have to have what he said to you, and then you act on that. Remember, Paul wrote in acts, he said, in him we live, in him we move, and in him we have our being. What part of that leaves him out? None of it. It's all about him. But to us, it's all about us. If we're thinking wrong, the unrenewed mind thinks, I've got to do it. I've got to perform it. I've got to fulfill it. But the renewed mind says, it's in him. I do it in Him. I live in Him, I move in Him. I have my being. What's that mean? He's the strength of it all. He's the performer of it all. He's the one that fulfills it. I'm simply the glove. He's the hand inside the glove, moving that glove around, putting that glove wherever he wants that glove to go. That's really what we are. We are incapable on our own to do it. But the one in us, he's the one performing it all through us. And he makes the glove look good, right? He makes us look good. And then he turns around and rewards us for allowing him to work through us. And he's the one doing the work, the goodness of God. He does the performing. He does the labor of it. And then he turns around and says, I'm going to bless you for it. Oh, are you kidding? All I was was the glove just going where the hand took me, right? So the skill of this, we have to renew our minds, that we learn to give the same answer that Brother Copeland gave. In Him, I can build that building in him. I can fulfill that vision. In Him. I can carry out the call on my life because he's the one empowering me. He's the one bring it. Bringing it to pass. But I have to keep pace with him. That's what faith does. It moves. It keeps pace with him. Now, if God is wanting to move and wants to move to this certain point, but faith is way back here. God can't keep going past what we'll give him permission to do. He can't go any further than us. So as we keep pace with him, he's able to manifest. I remember something that God said to me. Right now, I'm in the process of renovating a Home that God gave me, Amy Simple McPherson's home. She was an evangelist in the early part of the 1900s. And when we started the. At the very beginning of the renovation process, God said to me, the supply will keep up with your faith and the workers pace. Notice this. If man wasn't moving, God couldn't move. So he was saying, basically, as fast as they work, that's how I'll supply. So if you're okay with them taking six months and not working, there won't be supply during that six months. Supply meets movement. Why? Because faith is an act. And God's power always meets movement. Faith. So don't say God. I'll say yes whenever the money comes. You say yes now and start making movement. The money will come, the supply will come. This is where a lot of people miss it is. They hear God say something and they say stationary, wanting all the supply to show up before they move. Not going to happen. Why? Because supply meets faith. And faith is a movement. Faith is an action. And it's an action directed by God. How many times I have seen people, I've pastored for 25 years and I've seen people try to force the hand of God by them taking on an action God never told them to take. They're trying to force him into something. No, faith comes by hearing. Faith does not come by forcing. You can't force God. What you can do is hear God. And when you respond to what you hear him tell you to do, I guarantee you his power will always meet you in that response. Amen. That's called moving in Christ. When Paul said, in him, we live, in him, we move. What's that mean? Hear what he's saying to you. Then you'll know what moves to make. Amen. If we make moves and they end up to our. Our failure, it's because we weren't moving in him, we were moving in us. I've done enough moving in me to know that doesn't work. You could say the same thing, right? We have all done our own movement. And God, why didn't you. Why didn't you like blaming him for something not happening when we didn't take time to hear, what movement do you want me to make? When God tells we know we need to move toward a certain thing, Ask God, what action should I take on that? What should be my action toward that? Don't you author that action. Let him author that action. Remember, I mean, Peter did this, right? When he saw Jesus walking on the water, he didn't say, well, I'm a disciple and I can do it. He said, jesus, if that's you, he really locked Jesus down in that word, if that. You bid me come. Well, it was him, so he had to bid him to come, Right? And so notice Peter knew. I'm not trying that until I hear from you. Don't try anything till you hear from Him. Don't try to buy that house till you hear from Him. Don't try to start that business till you hear from Him. Don't marry that person till you hear from Him. You can't just hear from your flesh. You can't just hear from. Oh, I love them. You know, you can hang out with the wrong thing long enough, you'll love the wrong thing. Yeah, you want to hear from Him. It's what we hear from him that blesses our life. Notice this. Faith comes by hearing. Faith doesn't come by assuming. Faith comes by hearing. Faith doesn't come by planning. I planned this. No, that's not how faith comes. Faith comes from hearing. You do not have to formulate God's plan for your life. You just have to hear God's plan. Many just put pen to paper and start forming a plan. Nope, that's not what we're called to do. We're called to hear a plan. Why? Because to fulfill a plan, we have to have faith. And until we hear from God, we don't have faith. You understand that till we hear from God, we don't have faith for something. But when we hear God say something because he said it in those words is the faith we need. Amen. So you have to hear from God before you go to act. Don't just take off acting. Trying to. Trying to force God to manifest Himself. Because you acted here, what action am I to take? What action? And that's called in him, we move. Amen. So that's what it means in Christ. It's not just him working through us, but also us hearing from Him. That's part of the moving in Christ. Now, what this says in acts, in him we live. What's this mean? This is to be our manner of life. This is to be a daily lifestyle. We don't just. We don't just look to him when we're faced with an emergency. Every day, we're learning to follow him more closely. Why? Because then when the emergencies of life show up, we already have skill in place. We already recognize how he's leading. In 2011, the spirit of God spoke to me and he said, all I want you doing is practicing peace. I did not realize that he was preparing me for what was ahead. It just sounded like a good attribute to develop in my spiritual life. But I didn't know it was going to be my rescue. So I implemented that. Any thought that didn't arrive me at peace, I cast it down. Any thought that didn't arrive me at peace, I answered it. I forbid it to turn over in my thought life. Then two years later when my husband went home to be with the Lord, I was already skilled at practicing peace. I was skilled at it because I had been practicing for two years and I decided, I'm not leaving this flow to go to the flow of grief and sorrow. Notice this. He told me how to act. How was I to act? Practice peace. He will always help you. If you'll listen to him and obey him, you'll always be prepared. You can't stop certain things from happening, but you can always determine the outcome. You can't. You can't stop certain difficulties from coming, but you can determine how they affect you. Amen. Well, praise the Lord. These things thrill me. Isn't this so important to us? Who we are in Christ makes all the difference. We have to establish this and make this a central theme, a central truth of our life. Because this is the way we're to live. This is the way we're to move. Amen. Well, you don't want to miss any upcoming episodes. And until next time, remember this Jesus is the Healer. God bless you.
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To watch or listen to today's message or and other messages by Nancy Dufresne, visit dufresneministries.org.
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We will never receive from God beyond the measure of our response. In this book, Responding to the Holy Spirit, Nancy Dufresne instructs us how to properly respond to God and the moving of his spirit. Order this book now@dufresneministries.org.
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If you have received a healing or have any other testimony to share with us as a result of this broadcast, we would love to hear about it. Please call us, write us, or contact us through our website. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us@DefrainMinistries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, submit a prayer request, or visit our online store. Thank you to the friends and partners of Dufresne Ministries for making this production possible.