Podcast Summary: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
Episode 778 | In Christ I Can, Part 18
Date: June 25, 2025
Host: Nancy Dufresne
Episode Overview
This episode continues Nancy Dufresne’s ongoing teaching series "In Christ I Can", focusing on the believer’s identity and ability in Christ. Nancy teaches about the centrality of knowing who we are in Christ, how to think and respond from that place of revelation rather than natural understanding, and the importance of agreement with God’s Word. Drawing from a testimony by Kenneth Copeland, she illustrates the supernatural supply available to every believer and the necessity of having a renewed mind.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
The Head and Body Relationship in Christ
- Nancy introduces the theme: understanding who we are in Christ and living from that revelation rather than our own strength (04:35).
- She stresses the power and presence of God available to believers everywhere, especially in times of need (00:10).
- Quote: “Let’s say it this way, how about we begin to live as rich as we are? Amen. And when knowing that He dwells in us, why would we ever ignore Him and put ourselves to work when we could draw on the divine genius of heaven?” (04:59)
Kenneth Copeland’s Testimony: Living by Revelation, Not Reason
- Nancy recounts a story of Kenneth Copeland being led to sow a large financial seed he didn’t have; his response: “In Christ, I have it and in Christ, I can give it.” (07:50)
- She highlights the importance of answering life’s challenges from our identity in Christ, not from our natural limitations.
- Quote: “He didn’t go to his mind—he went to who he was in Christ. That’s what skill does.” (08:25)
Agreement with God and Danger of Reasonings
- Nancy discusses the devil’s strategy to pull us out of agreement with God by questioning His Word, using the example of Adam and Eve in Genesis (12:55).
- She notes we must not entertain contrary thoughts, as listening can change what we believe.
- Quote: “Not every thought that comes to you came from you... You have to realize that when God speaks to you, He speaks to you in your spirit.” (14:24)
How God and the Enemy Communicate
- God speaks spirit-to-spirit, then that revelation comes up into the mind (15:00).
- The enemy attacks from outside, aiming for the mind and attempting to draw believers into reasoning apart from faith.
- Nancy teaches to discern the source of our thoughts and to deliberately stay in agreement with God.
Praying Paul’s Prayers (Ephesians 1) to Know Our Identity
- Nancy walks listeners through Ephesians 1:16–20, encouraging them to pray “In Him” prayers over themselves and others (17:30).
- To know:
- Who we are in Christ (our calling and position)
- What we have in Christ (our inheritance)
- What we can do in Christ (the power available to us)
- To know:
- Quote: “If they ever see who they are in Christ... they’re done living the way they’re struggling. That’s right. This is where people are missing it. They don’t realize what all belongs to them.” (21:05)
The Relationship Between the Head and Body
- Christ as the Head needs the Body (the Church) to carry out His will (22:10).
- The importance of yielding to the Head, trusting His wisdom above our own understanding.
- Quote: “All the body has to do is move with the Head. How do you move with the Head? You obey what the Head tells you to do.” (23:13)
Faith Above Understanding
- Nancy explains that we often understand spiritual truths by faith, and not always through intellect or reasoning.
- Encourages stepping out when we don’t fully grasp the details but trust God’s leading.
- Quote: “We understand by faith that the worlds were framed by the word of God. I can’t understand that intellectually. I understand that by faith.” (24:34)
Practical Application and Resources
- Recommends praying scripture-based prayers from the Epistles.
- Offers "In Him Scriptures" as a downloadable resource for listeners to meditate on their identity in Christ (25:40).
Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments
- Nancy Dufresne [04:59]: “How about we begin to live as rich as we are? Amen.”
- Nancy Dufresne [08:25]: “He didn’t go to his mind—he went to who he was in Christ. That’s what skill does.”
- Nancy Dufresne [14:24]: “Not every thought that comes to you came from you… You have to realize that when God speaks to you, He speaks to you in your spirit.”
- Nancy Dufresne [21:05]: “If they ever see who they are in Christ... they’re done living the way they’re struggling. That’s right.”
- Nancy Dufresne [23:13]: “All the body has to do is move with the Head. How do you move with the Head? You obey what the Head tells you to do.”
- Nancy Dufresne [24:34]: “We understand by faith... I can’t understand that intellectually. I understand that by faith.”
Timestamps for Key Segments
- 00:10 – Declaration: Power is present in every sick room for healing.
- 04:35 – Introduction of theme: Living as we are in Christ; perspective on new studio and audience.
- 07:50 – Kenneth Copeland’s testimony and revelation: “In Christ I have it.”
- 12:55 – Discussion on Satan’s strategy and the importance of staying in agreement with God.
- 14:24 – Recognizing the source of thoughts—spirit versus reason.
- 17:30 – Teaching from Ephesians 1:16–20; Praying “In Him” prayers.
- 21:05 – The practical impact of revelation—seeing oneself in Christ ends struggle.
- 22:10 – Analogy of the Head and Body; yielding to Christ’s leadership.
- 24:34 – Understanding by faith, not intellect.
- 25:40 – Closing: Offering downloadable “In Him Scriptures” for further study.
Conclusion
Nancy Dufresne’s teaching in this episode is a stirring call to live daily out of our rich spiritual inheritance in Christ. Through illustrations, scripture, and practical application, she urges believers to answer life’s challenges from their union with Christ—agreeing with God’s Word over reason or circumstance—and provides tools to continually renew the mind to these truths. The episode stands out for its faith-filled tone, practical teaching, and emphasis on the transformative power of scriptural revelation.