← Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
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Thank you to Kenneth Copeland Ministries for sowing the airtime for this broadcast.
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There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you. You may be in a sick room, you may be in a hospital room. And I want to remind you, power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what's not. Try to get something, but notice that he's already made it yours. It's present right where you're at. Say, I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now. I receive it right now from the top of my head. From the top of my head. The soles of my feet. The soles of my feet. Welcome. We're so glad to have you with us today for Jesus the healer. Thank you for joining us. And you know what we love? We. We love bringing the Word to people who love the Word and people who honor the Word. Isn't it the best fellowship? So come on into our home right here. You know, you might notice that we're in a newer studio setting, and we did not redo the previous one. We added an additional one. And so now we have a studio in California. We have a studio in Texas. And now we can just. We can easily go and spend time recording and sending these teachings into your home. And you can hear we have a bit of a studio audience with us. But in this studio, we don't have exactly the same size, and so we can't always show them. But if you hear them, know that they're physically here. It's not just a canned thing. But these people are here. And the reason I like, because people have asked me at times about why we have a studio audience. And the reason I like it is because their hunger draws something out of me and it draws more out of me for you. And that's what I'm interested in. I want. We want to just draw out all we can so that you. We can all feast well on the Word. Amen. We are in the midst of a series right now, and I've just titled it In Christ. I Can Do It. And this is such an important central theme in the life of every believer. And we're wanting to establish ourselves in the truths of who we are in Christ and who Christ is in us. Why? So we don't just depend on ourselves. So we don't just lean to our mind, so we don't take the lower flow, but we allow him to be who he is through us. Let's say it this way, how about we begin to live as rich as we are? Amen. And when knowing that he dwells in us, why would we ever ignore him and put ourself to work when we could draw on the divine genius of heaven? Amen. So we've been taking in this series a testimony that Brother Kenneth Copeland gave. He told this story. And when Brother Copeland, there are so many weighty statements full of revelation that he'll just make a statement in passing. But I grab it and I hear whole sermons in it. And that's what happens when you're around your divine supply. Everyone, God has a divine supply for your life to help bring the word into you. And for believers, that's a pastor. Every believer needs a pastor. I said, every believer needs a pastor. And God will lead you to the pastor that he has for you so that that anointing upon that pastor will draw and feed and fuel the call upon your life. Now, that's why we have to be led as to what chur we attend, because not everyone is anointed for your call the way the one that God leads you to is anointed. And so I say that to say this Brother Copeland has been a voice in my life. And when I sit under him, I get revelation. And this is what I'm feeding you. Things that I get fed, and then I feed it to you. And we have been feeding on a steady on a testimony that Brother Copeland gave back in the 1970s, God spoke to him. And God said to him, now he was at a place, he had debt. He was just learning about believing God for prosperity and for increase. And God spoke to him and said, I want you to sow $50,000 to Kenneth Hagin's ministry. Now, Kenneth Hagin was a teacher that spoke into Brother Copeland's life. And the answer that Brother Copeland gave demonstrates the skill of the renewed mind. And what he answered, he knew he didn't have the resources himself, personally to give that $50,000. But his answer did not reflect his personal resources. His answer reflected he had revelation. And the answer that Brother Copeland gave God is he said, in Christ I have it, and in Christ I can give it. Why? Because his mind said, no doubt, you don't have it, you can't give it. But he didn't go to his mind. He went to who he was in Christ. That's what skill does. We go to who we are in Christ to give our answer. We don't go to who we are in the natural who we are financially, who we are in the Education. Because many times people think education is enough to put them over. Not in the face of devils. Devils don't care about your education. You can't hold up a diploma and say, see this diploma? I've got a degree. They say, we don't care about any degree. We'll just up our degree of opposition is what we'll do. You know, it's not these natural things that cause us to have victory in life. It's about us having revelation of who we are in Christ. And that word that, that all conquering word that belongs to us and us being skillful in speaking the word, receiving of the Word and moving with God. Amen. So these are some of the things that we've been talking about. Because when Brother Copeland made this statement, in Christ I have it and in Christ I can give it, I saw in a moment, ha, outside of Christ he didn't have it. Outside of Christ he couldn't give it. But in Christ we can do so much more than what we ever could do outside of him. Outside of Christ everything is impossible, but in him everything is made possible. And that's what the Word tells us. With God all things are possible. So know this. Put every answer in your mouth as I'm with God. Why notice this? It's not with you. He makes it possible, but you're with him. What's that mean? Stay on God's side. Stay on God's side. Don't live in such a way. Think in such a way, or behave or act in such a way that takes you off God's side. Always stay on God's side. What's that mean? Always agree with him. Always agree with him. Why he's always right. I mean, you can live your whole life and a lot of people never get to this revelation. God is always right and the devil will always try to offer you something other than what God said. Notice with the beginning strategy of Satan's entrance into that we have record of in Genesis was with Adam and Eve. And what did he question? He questioned, was God right? Did God say and he's questioning God. Adam and Eve were in agreement with God until Satan started talking to them and they started listening to the wrong thing and they came out of agreement with God. That is Satan's strategy in our lives. Every time he's trying to draw us out of agreement with God. Now how did he draw Adam and Eve out of agreement with God? They just kept listening. Listening to the wrong thing will change what you believe. If you listen to the wrong thing long enough it will start making sense to you. And you I'm talking about mentally, it'll start making sense to you. Because the devil's not going to always use some absurd argument to try to cause you to be swayed off the word. He will use something that seemingly makes sense. And if you keep listening, that was the problem. They never should have had fellowship with the devil. They had fellowship through listening and engaging with him. The moment he started talking, Jesus told us. He showed us what to do when the devil started talking. Shut up and come out. That's right. That's exactly the extent of dealings that Jesus had with the devil when he encountered him. He said, you shut up and you come out. You don't let him talk. Adam and Eve sat and listened to him. This is what the reasonings of the mind can do. Satan will try to interject his thinking into your thoughts. And you think that you're just reasoning something. When sometimes we're listening to what the enemy is saying, we just think it's us. Not every thought that comes to you came from you. You have to realize that when God speaks to you, he speaks to you in your spirit. And what God says to you in your spirit must at some point float up and enlighten your mind so that you'll know how to move with what God is saying. In other words, your spirit knows things your mind hasn't caught up with yet. Now, because what God says, he says it to your spirit. And because, as Brother Copeland teaches us, we live from the inside out. What God deals with us, spirit to spirit, it has to float up and enlighten our mind, flow out and affect our body, and then it will flow out and affect our circumstances. Right? But it all comes here first. In Christ, everything is here first. That means we turn toward our spirit. Now, when Satan is dealing with us, comes against us, opposes us, he also arrives at the mind. But not from inside up here, but from outside against the mind coming to the mind. Notice though, both dealings, whether they're from God or the devil, always arrive at the mind. Both of them. The dealings of God through your spirit will float up and end up in your mind. And Satan speaks and those thoughts come to the mind. What's that mean? We had to be skillful at recognizing where did that come from? What direction did that come from? Did that come from in here or did that come from out here against my mind? If it came from outside against your mind, you cannot listen to it. Because if you keep listening to it by turning it over and over in your thought Life, it'll start making sense to you. And it can draw us out of agreement with. With what's in our spirit. So to be in Christ means we always agree with the Word. It means we always agree with what God says. Choose to agree with what God says, even before he says something to you. Right. And meaning this, you can say, whatever God says to me, I'm gonna agree to it. Why? Because then your cells are set, so to speak. And that way you're not having to convince yourself to agree with him when he says something that maybe is different than what you would have thought. So we just decide. My life is a life of agreement with God. I just agree with Him. And in my agreement, I'm going to respond to what he tells me to do. Now, this is what the skill that Brother Copeland demonstrated when God said, give that amount of money as a seed, and he said, in Christ, I have it, he agreed, and in Christ, I can give it. So we know this is that outside of Christ, he didn't have it. Outside of Christ, he couldn't give it. Everything God's called you to do in Christ, you can do it. In your finances, you can't. But in his supply, you can. Amen. So know this, that the plan of God is. Is God's offering himself to fulfill his plan for your life through you. So never hear what God's plan or what God commands of you. Never hear that and think, I've got to do this. No, you don't. You just have to agree with the one who will do it through you, that what God says to you needs your faith, and it needs your obedience. It does not need your own human ability trying to substitute for God's ability. We have divine ability to pull on. Amen. And this is what Paul had learned. This is what Paul taught us. And this is something we have to major on. I want to read to you. Let me find it here real quick. Going through. And let's go over to Ephesians, and you can look with me if you would. In Ephesians, chapter 1, in verses 16 through 20, Paul was telling a prayer that he prayed for all of God's people. This is what you need to do. Go through the New Testament. Primarily the epistles. Now, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are the first four books of the New Testament. Those are what we call the Gospels. Those record Jesus earthly life. Those things were written under the New Covenant. I mean, Jesus operated as one. Excuse me, the Old Covenant. Jesus was still operating as under the Old Covenant. But when you start getting into Acts and all the books after that. Those are called the Epistles because those are letters written to the church, to those of us alive today. Now, we certainly benefit from the Old Testament. We certainly benefit from the Gospels. I'm not saying that they're unimportant. They are not unimportant, but primarily God writing to the church that's recorded in the Epistles. So go through there and find prayers that are prayed in the Epistles. Note those. Learn to pray those. If you're not careful, you'll just end up praying your thoughts instead of God's word. So note those. And this is a prayer that you need to be praying for others. Pray it for the body of Christ. Pray it for your pastor. Pray it for your family. And Paul records Ephesians, chapter 1, verse 16. This is a spirit inspired prayer. He said, I cease not to give thanks for you. So notice how his prayer began. I'm thanking God for you. Isn't that so important, that we learn to thank God for one another?
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Amen.
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Amen. I'm so grateful I'm part of the body of Christ. I belong in the body of Christ. So many people get in the wrong settings because they're looking where they belong. You belong in the body of Christ. Amen. And Paul said, I cease not to give thanks for you. So be thankful that you have a church family. Be thankful that you have God's family, that you belong there, you fit there. And so he said, I cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers. And the next verses are the mention that he made. This is what he prayed. Verse 17 says that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, would give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation. Look at this in the knowledge of him. Now that's what we're talking about. Knowledge of him in Christ, who we are in him, who he is in us and through us. So Paul is saying, I'm praying that God would give you the spirit of wisdom and the spirit of revelation so that you'll know who you are in Christ. This is something that is given to us. It's revealed to us. You can't mentally study this out and find it out. It has to dawn on your spirit by the Holy Ghost. This is the wisdom of God. The wisdom of God is who you are in Christ and who Christ is in you. So that is the wisdom of God. So he said, I'm praying that you would know, you would have the wisdom, you would have the revelation of who you are. In Christ. Why? That changes everything. When you realize that it's him in you, it's Christ in you doing the work, it's Christ in you performing. You quit living accomplished life. You live a God filled life. Listen, Jesus, life on the earth was our example of what the God filled life is supposed to look like. Think of that. He was not living something we could never attain to. He was living an example of what a man in Christ can live. So in verse 17 again Paul said, I'm praying that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, would give unto you. Look at this. You can't earn it. It's given that he would give unto you the Spirit of wisdom and the Spirit of revelation in the knowledge of him. Verse 18 says, the eyes of your understanding being enlightened. What's that mean? The eyes of your understanding. We could say it this way. The eyes of your spirit. It has to dawn on your spirit. Your spirit has to see this. The Spirit man. There is a man in you called the Spirit man. Now the Spirit, just like your body has senses, your spirit has senses. It has eyes, ears to hear. Right. When we hear from God, it's not just this outward, but we hear in our spirit what he's saying to us. Right? And so he says, the eyes of your understanding or the eyes of your spirit enlightened. What's that mean? Light comes. And when you're in light, you can see things you couldn't see before the light was there. Right? He says, the eyes of your spirit being enlightened. That you may. Number one, you may know what is the hope of his calling. What's that mean? The hope of his calling. That you may know who you are in Christ. That's what it means, that you may know who you are in Christ. Then he says that you may know what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints. But what's that mean? It means that you may know what you have because you're in Christ. The riches. Amen. Of your inheritance. And then verse 19 he said that you may know what is the exceeding greatness of his power.
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Yes, yes.
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To usward. To us, Ward, who believe. So notice what activates the power. Believing. Believing. So Paul is essentially saying this, that verse 18. That the eyes of your understanding would be enlightened. That you may know who you are in Christ, what you have because you're in Christ, and what you can do with the power that's in Christ. Amen. This has to dawn on us when someone is struggling in Life. This is what to pray for them. If they ever see who they are in Christ, they ever see how rich they are in him, they ever realize the power that is available to them and the power that's available through them to bless someone else, they're done living the way they're struggling. That's right. This is where people are missing it. They don't realize what all belongs to them because they're in Christ. This is so central to our lives. This is, Jesus died so that he could have a body. He's the head, we're the body. That which the head has is shared with the body. There is no separation. All that is in the head is in the body. All that belongs to the head belongs to the body. We're one with him. Amen. And your head never separates itself from the body and goes and does something on its own. Right. You think, I'm going to leave. I'm sitting on a couch in my family room. I'm going to go in the kitchen. The head does not pick up and go in the kitchen. Leave the body there or the body just go and leave the head there. They move as one. When we realize all that belongs to the head is mine as the body. Right? That dawns on you. Everything's different now. That means that the head needs the body. The head can't perform anything with a body. Right? The intellect, the understanding, the wisdom, the revelation that the head carries, Jesus carries to manifest. All of that calls for a body, you and me. The hands are not in the head, they're in the body. The feet are not in the head. There in the body, Christ needs us to manifest through, and he needs the body to know what the head can do so that the body will yield to the head and not try to take the lead of our own. But say, what does the head say? He's my head. He's the commander. He's the one, the chief of this whole thing, Right? And so the body has to respond to what the head wants. Because you can say there have been times at the end of a day, you've been tired and you go, I know I need to get up and clean this house. I know I need to go run this errand. I know I need to do the laundry. But the body's tired and the body says, nope, nope, we're staying on this couch. The head can want to do something and the body can tell it. No, that's not us. We won't tell the head. No, we agree with the head and we say everything the head wants done. The head is empowering the body to do it. So all the body has to do is move with the head. Move with the head. How do you move with the head? You obey what the head tells you to do. You agree. You use your faith to say, the head is right. I will move even with things I don't understand because the head understands it. The hand doesn't need to understand everything the head understands. The hand just needs to move as the body directs, as the head directs it. You understand that? Yeah. And this is where many people miss it. They're trying to understand before they agree. Agree by faith. You know what it says in Hebrews chapter one? It says, we understand by faith that the worlds were framed. Listen to that. We understand by faith that the worlds were framed by the word of God. I can't understand that intellectually. I understand that by faith. Right. So we understand many things just through faith, not through academic learning, not through the reasonings of the mind. We can believe what we cannot understand, what we cannot calculate. So when God tells you, I want you to start that business and you don't understand it, you can believe God can do it through me, even though I don't understand how he's going to do it, where he's going to get the resources. The head knows the body can relax because the head knows. And the head is directing the body. Amen. What an honor. Right? Paul says, pray for people that they understand who they are in Christ, what they have because they're in Christ, and what they can do because they're in Christ. Amen. That's you. That's me. We're learning. I said we're learning. Well, we want to offer you homework. Do you want homework? Mark? In school that might not have been a great thing, but in the Word, it's everything. And so we offer you on our website@jesusthehealer.org you can download for free. We're calling it in Him Scriptures. We've made these available to you. Not just the references, but the scriptures themselves are printed out. And you can go and download that and you can print it out so that you. You can take time to feed on it, because it's going to bring you into greater understanding of who you are in Christ. Establish this in you. And until next time, remember this. Jesus is the healer. God bless you.
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To watch or listen to today's message and other messages by Nancy Dufresne, visit dufresneministries.org.
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We will never receive from God beyond the measure of our response. In this book, Responding to the Holy Spirit, Nancy Dufresne instructs us how to properly respond to God and the moving of His Spirit. Order this book now@dufresneministries.org if you need prayer, please call our prayer line. We have trained ministers on staff who are ready to agree with you for your miracle.
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