Podcast Episode Summary: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
Episode 779 | In Christ I Can, Part 19 (June 26, 2025)

Main Theme & Purpose

This episode continues Nancy Dufresne’s teaching on what it means to live in Christ, focusing on the believer’s access to supernatural ability, faith, and resources through their union with Christ. The central message is that what God commands, He also enables—and we are to respond with faith and movement, not passive waiting. Through scriptural teaching, personal stories, and notable faith testimonies, Nancy encourages listeners to draw on the reality of Christ within, especially when facing needs, challenges, or divine assignments.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Power Present with Every Believer (00:10)

• Nancy opens by affirming: “There’s enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one... Power is present.”
• Listeners are encouraged to actively receive this power, regardless of circumstance.
  • “Say, I receive that power. I receive it right now. From the top of my head to the soles of my feet.” (00:25)

2. The "In Christ" Principle: Lessons from Kenneth Copeland (02:00)

• Story of Kenneth Copeland being led by God in the 1970s to sow a large offering he didn’t have:
  • Copeland said, “In Christ I have it, and in Christ I can give it.”
• Takeaway: What is impossible in our own strength becomes possible in Christ.
  • “If we will approach everything that God commands of us as, ‘In Christ, I can do this,’ …the plan of God can only be fulfilled one way: in Christ.” (03:20)

3. Paul’s Prayers and Revelation Knowledge (05:20)

• Focus on Ephesians 1:16–19: Paul’s prayer for believers to receive revelation of:
  • Who you are in Christ
  • What you have in Christ
  • The power available to you “because you’re in Christ”
• Nancy insists that intellectual study isn’t enough; true understanding comes by revelation from the Holy Spirit:
  • “This isn’t something you can just study out. It has to be revealed to you by heaven.” (06:05)

4. Faith as Movement – Obedience Unlocks the Supernatural (08:15)

• Obedience is the believer’s role; “Faith is a movement.”
  • “When we’ve gone as far as we could go in the natural, then the supernatural would kick in.” (09:05)
• Example: Starting projects without resources; moving as far as possible in the natural invites God’s supernatural supply.

5. Smith Wigglesworth and the Gift of Faith (10:57)

• Nancy recounts Smith Wigglesworth’s experiences: after exhausting his own faith, another faith came—the gift of faith (as described in 1 Corinthians 12).
  • "When I had used and spent all the faith I had... then another faith came." – Smith Wigglesworth (12:05)
• Emphasizes the necessity of God’s movement in miraculous situations—it's not initiated by human will, but as the Spirit wills.

6. Making Movement—Action Precedes Supply (13:57)

• Reiterates that active steps, no matter how small, invite God’s resources.
  • Kenneth Copeland’s commitment to send in even spare change as seed money, which God multiplied beyond possibility.
    • “His movement looked like change. Not enough. But when he made his movement as far as he could… God made up the difference.” (15:45)

7. Building Ownership Through Repetition and Meditation (18:55)

• Paul’s method of repeating truth for the listener’s safety—believers must meditate and take ownership of the Word:
  • “You can’t spend what you don’t own. Meditating on the Word… will enable you to spend them every time with results.” (19:20)

8. Drawing Daily on Christ’s Ability (20:30)

• Colossians 2:6 (Living Bible): Jesus is to be relied on daily, not just for salvation.
  • "Just as you trusted Christ to save, you trust him too for each day's problems."
• Practical encouragement for parents and families to lean on the indwelling Christ for daily assignments (“Mamas, you have divine ability to help you parent.”) (21:25)

9. Personal Anecdotes: Never Misplacing Christ (22:30)

• With humor, Nancy shares her husband’s habit of misplacing items, contrasting it with how Jesus is never misplaced—He resides within believers.
  • “Aren’t you glad... He took up abode in a place we could never misplace Him? He’s in us.” (24:37)

10. Acknowledgment vs. Worry (25:30)

• Challenge to break the habit of vocalizing needs/problems (“venting”) rather than acknowledging the Greater One inside.
  • “Talking about the problem… It frustrates the grace of God to talk about the problem when his ability is in you to deal with the problem.” (25:59)
• Practice: Direct thoughts and speech to who is in you, not just the need.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Nancy Dufresne (On Faith’s Action):

  • “Faith is a movement. You go as far as you can with the measure of faith you have, and then he’ll bring his flow in Christ to meet your movement of faith.” (12:25)

• On Applying the ‘In Christ’ Principle:

  • “Our movement is never enough. But if we’ll make movement—the movement of faith—God will meet that movement, fill it with Himself, and it will become something it never was until He got involved.” (16:20)

• On Repetition:

  • “It is not irksome to me to write to you again the same message because it is a precaution for your safety.” – Paul quoted by Nancy (18:50)

• On Divine Indwelling:

  • “He never leaves us. He never forsakes us. 24 hours a day, He occupies so that we can spend His ability anytime we need it. We can draw on His power. We can draw on His person anytime we need it.” (24:55)

• On Worry vs. Faith:

  • “Venting? You say, ‘I’m just trying to talk it out.’ No, you’re not talking it out. You’re letting the problem in.” (26:15)

Timestamps Overview

• 00:10–02:00 — Opening exhortation on the power present with believers; testimony setup.
• 02:00–05:20 — “In Christ I can” testimony from Kenneth Copeland.
• 05:20–08:15 — Paul’s prayers for revelation; practical application.
• 08:15–12:57 — Action and obedience: Faith as movement, supernatural provision.
• 12:57–15:57 — Smith Wigglesworth and the increase through the gift of faith.
• 15:57–18:55 — Movement illustrated: Kenneth Copeland’s offering, God multiplying ‘change’.
• 18:55–20:30 — The safety and importance of repetitive meditation and confession.
• 20:30–22:30 — Applying Christ’s ability in daily life.
• 22:30–24:37 — Anecdotes: marriage differences, assurance of Christ within.
• 24:37–27:00 — How to draw from Christ within, avoid worry-acknowledgement dynamic.
• 27:00–End — Encouragement to access “In Him” scriptures via Dufresne Ministries (content ends; ads/outros follow).

Resources and Practical Steps

• Key Practice:
  • Go as far as you can in faith, then expect God’s supply to meet you there.
  • Consistently meditate on and confess scriptures about your identity “in Him.”
  • Replace repetitive problem-talk with acknowledging, drawing on, and speaking out the Greater One within.
• Available Resource:
  • Free downloadable “In Him Scriptures” handout offered at jesusthehealer.org.

Summary Takeaway:
In this teaching, Nancy Dufresne urges believers not just to know but to act on their position in Christ: to step out in faith, however small the beginning, and trust that Christ’s indwelling power is sufficient for every command, every challenge, and every day. Repetition, meditation, and practical action bridge the gap between knowledge and experience, making God’s supernatural supply a reality “for each day's problems.”