Podcast Summary

Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast

Episode 782 | In Christ I Can, Part 22
Date: July 1, 2025
Host: Nancy Dufresne (Dufresne Ministries)
Theme: Understanding what it means to live and give as "in Christ" people, developing faith, and allowing God to enlarge our capacity to be a blessing to others.

Episode Overview

Nancy Dufresne continues her teaching series on “In Christ I Can,” focusing in this episode on how God’s commands pull us into deeper faith, how to respond when God asks for something seemingly beyond our current capacity, and how material and everyday circumstances serve to build our spiritual lives. The episode weaves biblical testimony, personal stories, and exhortation to inspire listeners to become a greater blessing, expanding their faith, and stewarding what God entrusts with generosity and trust.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Power That’s Present (00:10–02:00)

• Nancy begins by reminding listeners that God’s healing power is always available and present, no matter the physical or spiritual environment.
• Listeners are encouraged to receive by faith and recognize that God has already made provision.
• Quote:

  "There’s enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one... Power is present. That power is there to do a work." — Nancy Dufresne (00:10)

2. Expect God to Speak Beyond the Message (02:00–04:10)

• Nancy encourages listeners to expect personal revelation as they engage with the Word—a word may spark an answer in their heart, unrelated directly to what was spoken.
• She strongly encourages writing down inspirations, revelations, or direction received during such moments.
• Quote:

  "God will say things to you that didn’t come out of my mouth... Be listening, because He will speak things to your heart." — Nancy Dufresne (02:40)

3. The Incomparable Inheritance "In Christ" (04:11–06:00)

• The teaching pivots to the vastness of what belongs to believers in Christ.
• Nancy underlines that the riches of "in Christ" realities are as infinite as God Himself and can only be discovered and explored with the Holy Spirit’s help.

4. When God’s Commands Seem Impossible: Testimonies of Faith (06:01–13:00)

• Nancy recounts Kenneth Copeland’s testimony of being instructed to give $50,000 when he was in debt, emphasizing the supernatural nature of God’s provision and opportunity.
• She explains that God never asks for what we can easily do—His commands call us into greater faith and partnership with Him.
• Quote:

  "When God commands something of us and it’s beyond what we can do... He’s offering you something you don’t currently have in your possession. He’s offering Himself. He’s offering a higher flow." — Nancy Dufresne (08:16)

• Nancy shares her personal story about buying a historic home (Amy Simple McPherson’s former vacation house), and how the process challenged her to trust for more—renovation required more than just sacrificing her savings, it required faith for ongoing provision and purpose.
• She was led not to sell her previous home but to repurpose it for ministry, housing and refreshing other ministers, thus increasing her impact.

5. Mindset Shift: Becoming a Blessing Beyond Self (13:00–17:30)

• Nancy challenges the audience to shift from seeing themselves as owners for personal benefit, to seeing themselves as stewards meant to bless others.
• She shares having multiple homes—explaining she uses each as a way to host and refresh ministers, always asking, “How can I turn this into a blessing?”
• Quote:

  "If we don’t get past the mindset it’s ‘me and mine and nobody else’s,’ then we probably not even safe with one [home]. But if we will take everything God’s blessed us with and say, ‘Father, turn me into a blessing with this,’ He’ll show you how to do it." — Nancy Dufresne (15:41)

• She stresses it’s not about accumulating; it’s about being a channel for God.

6. Giving as a Pathway to a Supernatural Life (17:30–20:30)

• Using Copeland’s story, Nancy explains that God doesn’t take from us, He’s looking to bring us into a supernatural flow.
• Lists three things God offers in such tests:
  1. Greater faith
  2. Greater harvest
  3. The opportunity to become untroubled and peaceful in the process
• Copeland’s gift came in small increments, showcasing how God multiplies and brings supernatural increase.

7. Everyday Challenges as Spiritual Training (20:30–27:00)

• Nancy unpacks Joseph’s story (Genesis), showing how God built his character and leadership in “unsanctified,” unfair, even hostile situations.
• God can use hard, dark, or difficult places to build spiritual capacity, making us safe with blessing and influence.
• Submission and servanthood are highlighted, with the point that real character is only revealed in situations we wouldn’t have chosen.
• Quote:

  "Don’t kick against any building place in your daily life... It takes no faith and no character to submit to something you agree to. It’s only what you don’t agree to that your submission has shown up—or your lack of submission is shown up." — Nancy Dufresne (23:40)

• Joseph’s faithfulness meant he was entrusted with national blessing, even feeding those who wronged him.

8. Becoming a Blessing: The Culmination of Faith (25:44–26:44)

• The lesson of Joseph: Be a blessing, even to those who have hurt or opposed you.
• Everything God entrusts is not just for personal benefit, but so that others can draw from our abundance—spiritually and materially.
• Quote:

  "Never have an attitude of, ‘I’ll show people by making it.’ No, you show people by being a blessing to people." — Nancy Dufresne (25:46)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On God’s Commands:

  "He’s offering you the opportunity for greater faith. Never bypass the opportunity to develop your faith, enlarge your faith, strengthen your faith." — Nancy Dufresne (08:49)

• On Generosity:

  "Don’t just use your faith for things you need... Use your faith for things to give." — Nancy Dufresne (16:28)

• On Growth Through Hardship:

  "God can use every difficult place. I don’t care, people can put you in a wrong place. God can train you there." — Nancy Dufresne (22:00)

Important Timestamps

| Time | Segment / Topic | |-------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:10–02:00 | Receiving God’s present power for healing | | 02:00–04:10 | Expecting personal revelation & recording what God gives you | | 06:01–13:00 | Faith testimonies: Kenneth Copeland & Nancy’s personal giving story | | 13:00–17:30 | Mindset shift: Owning to bless, not to accumulate | | 17:30–20:30 | Giving as a doorway to supernatural living; Copeland’s testimony continued | | 20:30–27:00 | Joseph’s life: Serving, submitting, and thriving in adversity | | 25:44–26:44 | Culmination: Blessing others, even those who wronged you |

Episode Takeaways

• God’s commands activate a higher flow of faith and provision, not hardship.
• Every blessing and increase belongs to God and is meant to flow through us to others.
• Adversity or unfair situations are opportunities for God to build us spiritually—don’t resist the building process.
• True character and servanthood emerge when we submit in situations we don’t prefer.
• Being a blessing—sharing resources and revelation—is the goal, not personal gain.

Tone:
Encouraging, faith-filled, practical, and warm, with an emphasis on supernatural partnership with God and Christlike stewardship.

For listeners: Whether in a season of lack or abundance, God wants to enlarge your faith so you can receive—and give—much more, becoming a blessing to others at every step.