← Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
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Thank you to Kenneth Copeland Ministries for sowing the airtime for this broadcast.
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There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you. You may be in a sick room, you may be in a hospital room. And I want to remind you, power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what's not. Try to get something, but notice that he's already made it yours. It's present right where you're at. Say I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now. I receive it right now from the top of my head. From the top of my head. The soles of my feet. The soles of my feet. Welcome. We're so glad you're joining us today. For Jesus the healer, we invite you get your bible, get, get something to take notes with because we're expecting for you to receive answers today. Listen, when you hear from God, it changes everything. Can I tell you, recently we've made some really great transitions in our ministry. I mean, I have my sons that help me in the ministry and it is a joy when your children move with you in the plan of God. And I'm so, I tell you, I'm so blessed by my sons. They are. Oh, they're getting older. How did they get so much older? One's almost 41's one's 30 now. And then of course, my daughter in law, they all help us in the ministry. And like I said, it's one of the highest rewards to move together as a family in the plan of God and whatever that looks like for every family. For us, it looks like fivefold full time ministry. And my sons, one of them, the oldest, travels with me more on the road and the youngest one now is pastoring the church. And so I pastored for 25 years. Then my daughter in law who was married to my oldest son, she pastored for eight years. And then my youngest son now is the pastor and he will be the long term pastor. And just to move together in, in the blessing of God and to use our faith together. And whenever I was perceiving that it was time for my youngest son to become the pastor, I just started sensing because God dealt with me about my oldest son and his wife helping more with the road ministry. And so I said to God, well, if they're to help more with the road ministry instead of the church, does that mean it's time for my youngest son to come in and begin pastoring? So God said, yes, that's what that means. And if you'll ever notice something about God, if he'll start dealing with you about something, sometimes he's wanting to not just answer one thing that he's dealing with you about, but if you'll keep asking questions, he'll unveil more to you. So that's what I did. I sensed he was dealing with me about the change with my oldest son and his wife. So then it prompted me to ask questions toward the youngest. And then God spoke further. And then different ones had ministered to me and they had talked about this time, for this change for our family. And one of the things God said to me, he said, never trust your hearing to someone else. Meaning this. I perceived that it was time for those changes to happen. Now, when I'm telling this story, I'm not just talking about me. I'm talking to you about perceiving something. So apply it to your own life. And so I perceived that it was time. But because it's such a big important move that I sensed that I needed to hear that God had something more to say to me about it. And I didn't want to move until I heard something more. Now, why is it for me and so important and for you important to hear some things from God before you move ahead? Because you're going to have opposition. When you have opposition, you're going to have to know. God said to go this direction. God said to do it. Because when opposition comes, you have to answer it. And what are you going to answer it with? What God said. Amen. Amen. So I have learned in life that before I make any big decisions, I get it clear in my spirit. I have to know what God is saying to me. And when I say that what God is saying to me, I don't mean hearing an audible voice. God can make his leading known to us several different ways. Sometimes we just perceive in our spirit. Sometimes God may speak in a more authoritative way, but sometimes we will. God will deal even in more spectacular way. But however he leads you, make sure you hear. And hearing belongs to you. Because God is always leading his children. Now, you need to know what he's saying to you because there's going to be opposition. And you have to tell the need what God said. That's right. When it looks like you won't have enough money to pay your bills and tell that need what God said. My God shall supply all my need according to his riches and glory by Christ Jesus. You have to tell your need what God said. Now, Romans 10:17. It tells us this. You're familiar with it. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. Now let's quote it this way. Faith comes by hearing and hearing what God's saying to you. Because the Word, the written word of God is God speaking to you. But also God will speak to you by His Spirit. So for you to advance in some things, you have to hear what is God saying to you? Never turn your hearing over to someone else. Never trust someone else to hear on your behalf. Because if you are waiting to just. If you're just going to move with what somebody else told you, you won't have faith to move ahead. Because faith comes by hearing what Go says to you, not what somebody else told you that God said. That's right. Amen. You're going to have to hear for yourself. And I want you to know you do hear. I said, you do hear. Jesus said, my sheep know my voice. Instead of saying, I don't hear from God. I'm unclear. I don't know what God is saying to me. In Christ. Hearing belongs to you. You understand that in Christ. Why is that? He is the head, we are the body. Every facet of my body can hear what my head says. You are of the body of Christ, and it is your in Christ right to hear the head. And when God said in His Word, faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. That is either the written word or the spoken word that God can speak to you through. But even that will have to be quick. It's quickened to us. Haven't you ever read a verse? You read it many times and you just read right over it. But sometime when you're facing a certain need, all of a sudden a certain verse stands up to you and that thing seems to speak to you. There's clarity. There's a window of revelation that opens to you in that. And that verse means something more to you than it did before. That's God speaking to you. He makes that verse come alive. No, it's not in the voice that you hear, but it's in the voice of His Word. The voice of the Word spoke to you. So when you have that clarity, when you have something of the Word that stands out to you now, you can advance safely. Why? Because when you hear what God said, what came with what God said. Faith. Anytime God said something to you, there's the faith to do it. Because you heard him. That's why I put so much stock in hearing from God. I am one that I move slow why? Because I don't want to have to back up and clean up. Have I done that before? Yes. Am I looking to do it again? No. I want to hear accurately, move accurately. Because in these last days, we don't have the same amount of time to miss it and backtrack and get back on the right track now can we? Yes. But we should be missing it less and less as we grow in God. Now, Jesus said, my sheep know my voice. Don't argue with him and say, I don't know what he's saying, because then you're speaking against the word. Say it by faith. I know what God's saying to me. My spirit has ears to hear. I recognize his voice. I know what he's saying. And say, father, thank you that you're leading me. Father, thank you that I do know what I need to know in my mind. I might not know something, but my heart knows. And I'm expecting that my heart will make it clear to me. Now, do you know that your spirit knows things your mind hasn't caught up with yet? That's good. Yeah. That's why we have to take time to be quiet before the Lord. Because as we take time to pray or speak in other tongues, we take time to wait upon the Lord. We take time to pray to him. What happens? God speaks to us through our spirit, and then what's in our spirit floats up and enlightens our mind. And once our mind has understanding of what our spirit has had communicated to it, then we can move forward with God. And not only that, we have faith to move forward because we heard from God. Faith comes by hearing from God. And so whenever. I can't tell you the number of times that I have had to face decisions worth millions of dollars, and I just simply went by the peace on the inside of me, I have found this out. The bigger the decision, the quieter the leading. We think that because it's something big, that it's going to be a very loud, demonstrative leading. I have found that's not always true. The bigger the need, the quieter the leading. Why? Because God's not training us to depend on something spectacular. He's teaching us to follow that still small voice, the inward witness, that we don't have to have something dramatic before we obey it, that he just. He just turns a certain direction and we perceive that turn. You know, when my husband and I first got married, we were. We knew each other for a very short time, from the time we met to the time we married. That's not the rule, that's the exception. But I heard God. And so it was days of heaven on earth because we heard from God. But because I heard what God said, He said to me, he's going to be your husband. Then when opposition came to the marriage, when people that didn't understand that God put us together, it didn't trouble me because I heard right. When you've heard, you can settle down on what you've heard and you can rest on what you've heard. Because everyone else didn't hear what I heard. Everyone might not have agreed, they might not have understood, but I understood because I heard. And all throughout the years of spiritual development, my husband and I, because we got married really soon after we met, as we grew in time together, I grew in understanding perceiving him without even him saying something. When we first got together, he would have to tell me lots of details. But as I learned Him, I could just perceive which direction he would go when faced with a certain decision. Why? Because the more I knew him, the less vocal he had to be with me. Does that make sense? It's the same thing with God. He doesn't want to train us to where we. He wants us to learn him in such a way that we learn what pleases Him. Well, what pleases Him? Faith. He's not hard to please. God is so easy to please. It's all faith is what pleases Him. But we can learn. Oh, I know him. And I know that this direction is the leading. Because you perceive him more and more and more just like you get to know someone in the natural. More and more, you can learn to know him more and more. And I have a learned that in bigger decisions, many times the leading is more quiet because he's training me in all the ways he leads. For example, if someone were to communicate with you, number one, they could show up at your house and talk to you. Another way they could call you on the phone. Another way, they could text you. Another way, they could write you a letter. Right. Another way they could send someone with a message. So these are all the ways you could communicate with someone. But look how different they all are. It's the same thing with God. He leads us, but sometimes it's a quiet leading. Other times we will hear that authoritative voice of the Holy Spirit. So we want to learn him in all the way he in all the ways he leads. Why? Because that's our right in Christ, is to know him, to hear him that we're not going through life just living by trial and error. But we're depending on him because in him we are to know the plan. We're to know the steps to take. The Word says the steps of a righteous man are ordered of the Lord. That's you. That's me. We're not righteous because we've done everything right. We're righteous because Jesus did everything right and then credited that righteousness as though we did it right. So don't ever let the devil tell you that you have to keep going down the wrong path because you've been on the wrong path. But a righteous man can come back and walk this perfect steps of God's plan in their life, no matter how bad they missed it. Because in Christ what belongs to us is the leading of God. In Christ, what belongs to us is ordered steps of his path and his plan for our life. Amen. But we have to not turn our hearing over to someone else. Develop hearing from God for yourself. Now, when my husband went home to be with the Lord, there were. I was put in a place of having to conduct business transactions that I never had to do before. I maybe did a measure of them, but I didn't do them to the full extent of of every part of the ministry. So overnight I had to step into the business side on a larger role because it was new territory for me. It was imperative that I hear. Because no man could tell me the mind of the Spirit for these business decisions. I had to have heaven's wisdom on it. What's that mean? I have to take time to hear. Hearing belongs to us in Christ. Now. Know that that's part of your inheritance is hearing. And so I would move slowly in decision making because even if I perceived I was to go a certain direction, I waited until there was a certainty of the peace of God on the inside of my spirit. And I noticed this, that the longer I would wait in gaining his leading, that the more he would speak to me about it, more and more of the details would unfold to me if I moved really quick. Now, don't misunderstand me. Sometimes when God says do something, you do it and you do it then. But other times you have to perceive, you have to recognize how he's leading. And if you'll have your spiritual antenna up, your spiritual ear open, he'll talk to you a lot about that decision, about that direction to make. And when I would take time to hear, then when the devil would say, you're doing the wrong thing, I knew exactly what to say because God had already answered it for me. And I would Just tell the devil. God said. That was always my answer to opposition. God said. So I never faced, I never went into a project that I had to finish without knowing what God said. Because I know I'm going to face opposition. And when I hear what God says, I also had the faith to go that direction. Why? Because when God speaks, faith comes. So faith comes by hearing what God says. So when you hear what God is telling you to do, the faith is there to do it. Ah. If he tells you to start a business and you hear him start that business, do you know with those words it was imparted to you, the faith to start the business? Yeah. If you'll move on it now, if you're going to reason it out, what's going to happen, you'll delay. You'll find a reason not to do it. But just move with what God says. Hearing belongs to us in Christ. Now, it doesn't matter that you hear what the devil says, because what God says trumps everything. What's that mean? You're going to be in this life, you're going to hear what the devil says. But that shouldn't sway you because you already know what God said. You know, if somebody were to say to me, I'll do something kind of ridiculous here. If someone were to say to me, pastor Nancy, your hair just turned purple. I don't care what they said, because I already. I already know what color my hair is. Right. When somebody. When the devil threatens me, you're not going to. You're going to lose your home. I already know what God said. I know what God said. He said he'd supply all my need. I've already heard from God. It doesn't matter what the devil says. So for me to run and look in the mirror to see if my hair turned purple was to believe the wrong thing. For us to be troubled by what we hear the devil say is because a measure of us is believing the wrong thing. You understand that? So if we're troubled, a measure of us is listening, believing the wrong thing. What do we have to do? Tell the wrong thing that we heard what God said. That's what you have to do. Why? Because everything God says is. Is what overcomes what the enemy says. That's why Jesus, in the wilderness of temptation, when the devil would. Would tempt him, he would always say, it is written. What's he doing? He's telling the devil what God said. And that's what overcame those words. You cannot keep the devil from talking to you. But then you have to have something to say at the end of it. Amen. Now, as I said, you have to hear from God. Never turn your hearing over to someone else. What's that mean for you? You cannot turn your spiritual walk over to someone else. Someone can't be spiritual on your behalf. You have to develop your own spiritual life. You have to develop hearing from God. You have to develop obeying God. You have to develop your prayer life. You have to develop your faith life. The temptation to someone who has strong faith, people around them, is to coast under their faith. That's a dangerous. That's a dangerous avenue to take. My husband was a man of raw faith. He was a man of bold faith. But my husband traveled a lot. He was not at home a lot. That was part of the plan of God for us, that he traveled and he ministered and I was at home with the boys. I was at home administrating the offices. I was at home pastoring the church. I could not depend on the faith of a person who was absent all the time. Now, no doubt he prayed for his family, he prayed for the ministry. So he was present in the aspect of releasing his faith. But I needed my own faith on the everyday flows of life. I had to know. I had to know how to hear from God myself. I couldn't call my husband 24 hours a day. He's out preaching, fulfilling the plan of God for, you know, his life. He did not need a wife draining on him and pulling on him and leaning on him and such a way that it was a negative draw. And so I made sure that I was developing my own walk, my own fellowship with God, developing my own faith in God. Now am I not so glad that I did when 2013 came and he left the earth unexpectedly? What if I had just been living under the umbrella of his faith and thinking that I had a bold faith just because his was blessing my life? Nope. I'd have been in a whole heap of trouble. Because if I had not learned to hear God myself. Can I tell you where God is going to teach you the skill of hearing him is in the insignificant things, the things that don't really matter in life. He's not going to train you on the life changing decisions. He's going to train you on the unimportant. I remember being in a furniture store getting ready to buy a piece of furniture. It's what I wanted. I had the money for it, I needed it. And I'd walk up to the counter. On the inside of me, I'd sense Don't buy that. And my mind didn't understand. It's just a couch. Why would God get involved in the purchase of a couch? There's no eternal significance to this couch. Right? It's just performing a function in our home. It's. It's not a life and death situation. And then I would recognize, wait a minute, God's dealing with me. Don't buy that. I didn't know why those earlier years, I did not recognize, why is God leading me on these things that have no significance in life? It was my training ground. He was training me on the unimportant so that if I missed it, at least it did not have a negative effect on many people. Because I would one day be pastoring and affecting many people's lives. I would one day be preaching the Word on a greater. On a greater scale, and it would affect many people's lives. So always follow God on the things that you don't think are important. Because when God gets involved, now it becomes important not because the couch became important, but because the training became important. God was using that piece of furniture, that piece of equipment to help you learn how to recognize how he leads you. Amen. So don't override those leadings, because in Christ, what belongs to you is the mind of God, knowing his thoughts for your life, knowing how he's leading you, knowing how he's directing you. But if we diminish his lead our life, we cripple our effectiveness to follow Him. So pay attention that sometimes he'll say, don't drive down that road today. Go that way to work. And you don't know why. It might not even be that there was a tragedy awaiting you on the. On the route you would have taken. But sometimes he just wants to train you in obedience, hear his voice and obey it for no reason. You know, there was nothing more frustrating to me as a parent than I tell my child to do something. They go, why? Oh, brother. Then there are fighting words, you know, and I can tell you why. Because I said so. That's why I don't have to prove that this instruction has significance before you obey it. You obey it because I said it. That's right. Right. You know, when a man or woman goes into military in boot camp, you know, one of the first sections they do, they get them out walking. Left, right, left, right. They've been walking all their life, but they've been walking under their own command. Now when they get to boot camp, you're going to walk, but you're going to walk at my command. You're going to learn that what was so easily under your command is no more under your command. It's under the commanding officer now. Well, now we have to learn and God will use that left, right, left, right, just walking out everyday life. He will use that everyday flow to train us that He's Lord. That means that we bow to his command. We obey his command instead of arguing it. If we learn to and we practice arguing with every leading we get, we could argue our way into devastation. We could argue our way into destruction. God is going to train us in following him on the everyday things. So since he gets involved, that makes it important. You know that couch that I remember? God told me don't buy that couch. The couch wasn't important. But the leading I learned regarding that couch. There was the gold, there was the value. Amen. God wants to train you on the everyday because opposition is going to need you to have the answer of God in your mouth and your vision and the plan of God is going to need you knowing what God said. Amen. Well, we're learning. These things are in Christ. It belongs to us to hear the voice of God. So you don't want to miss next time we're going to continue this direction. And until next time, remember this Jesus is the healer. God bless you.
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In Nancy Dufresne's book, Faith in the Power of God, she teaches how God wants us to know his power that is in our direction. It belongs to us. Order this book now@dufresneministries.org we trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us at defrainministries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, submit a prayer request or visit our online store. Thank you to the friends and partners of Dufresne Ministries for making this production possible.