Podcast Summary: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne – Episode 790 | "In Christ I Can, Part 30"

Date: July 11, 2025
Host: Nancy Dufresne

Episode Overview

In this episode, Nancy Dufresne continues her long-running series focusing on what it means to be "in Christ." The central theme revolves around the vital importance of living in daily fellowship with God, understanding our identity in Christ, and learning the proper "spiritual etiquette" for approaching God. Through practical insights and relatable stories, Nancy emphasizes how faith, continual awareness of God's presence, and correct spiritual postures shape our everyday walk and access to God’s power.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Power and Presence of God Available Now

• Nancy opens by declaring that God's healing power is present everywhere, even "in every sick room and in every hospital room," encouraging listeners to receive it by faith.
• Quote: “Say, I receive that power. I receive it right now from the top of my head to the soles of my feet.” (00:22)

2. The Honor and Responsibility of Hearing God’s Word

• She reminds listeners it's a privilege to hear divine truth and "take higher thoughts" directly from God's Word instead of relying on our own ideas.
• Quote: “Don’t ever stick with what’s your own when He offers you His.” (01:05)

3. Living in Christ is Limitless

• Nancy highlights that exploring what is available to us "in Christ" is a boundless journey—“as limitless as God himself.” (02:00)
• She allows the Holy Spirit to direct the teaching instead of rigidly following notes, trusting specific needs will be addressed.

4. Key Scripture: Colossians 2:6 – Trusting God Daily

• Main verse (Living Bible): “And now, just as you trusted Christ to save you, trust Him too for each day’s problems.”
• God desires us to invite Him into everyday matters, big and small—consult, acknowledge, and depend on Him (03:15).

5. Fellowship vs. Relationship – Defining the Difference

• Nancy distinguishes “relationship” (the fixed status of being God’s child) from “fellowship” (the quality and flow of daily interaction with God).
  • Relationship is unchanging, but "the fellowship within that relationship can vary… We’re the variable" (04:55).

6. Approaching the Throne – The Right Way

• The throne of grace is “the place of answers,” not questions.

• We are welcomed to come “boldly to the throne,” and it’s up to us how long we stay in fellowship.

  • Quote: “He said, come boldly to the throne of grace that you may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need… The throne is the place of obtaining. The throne is the place of answers.” (06:20)

• Approaching God requires an "etiquette": entering “His gates with thanksgiving and into His courts with praise,” not complaint or murmuring.

  • Quote: "You don’t just walk right into the throne room. You approach. You go through the gates of thanksgiving, courts of praise." (08:05)

7. Our Awareness and Yieldedness Determine Our Experience

• Nancy shares a personal story about asking God why His presence seemed stronger on one day versus another:

  • Quote: “He said, because you yielded more. You yielded further yesterday than you’re yielding today… We will sense Him to the measure we respond to Him.” (11:30)

• The more we acknowledge Him, the more real His presence becomes. We set the measure of our fellowship by our own responsiveness.

8. The Dangers of a Wrong Approach and Mindset

• Approaching in complaint, fear, doubt, or chronic repentance distances us from true fellowship.
  • “You won’t ever arrive [in God’s presence] when we have complaint, murmuring, fault-finding or criticism in our mouth.” (14:45)
• She compares approach etiquette with that of her mother’s house, where tone and manner determined the outcome of a request.

9. Repentance & Identity: Honor the Blood, Not the Accuser

• Not every approach to God should be based in repentance over past confessed sins; to continually rehearse forgiven faults dishonors Christ’s blood.

  • Quote: “When you talk about what the blood cleansed you from, and you constantly rehearse that and repeat that to push yourself down, it’s a dishonor to the blood.” (21:14)

• The enemy is the "accuser of the brethren," always pointing back at who we are in ourselves. Our standing before God is “on the grounds of who I am in Christ.”

• True humility is not self-doubt, but agreeing with what God’s Word says about us.

10. Beware of Fear Masquerading as Humility

• Tender-hearted believers can be manipulated by fear into perpetual self-correction, which is still rooted in the enemy’s flow.
• Constantly apologizing or fearing to miss God is not godly humility, but fear.
  • Quote: “Don’t ever live with a fear of missing God. It’s still the flow of the enemy. Amen.” (23:58)

11. Living a Life of Acknowledgement and Consultation

• Nancy encourages practical continual fellowship: consult God at every turn, obey His direction, and return for further leading.
  • She illustrates this with stories of Oklahoma hospitality: “It was so inappropriate that if somebody came by to visit you, that you just went about your daily duties… you would never think of doing that.” (25:15)
• In the same way, we must not ignore God’s presence but host Him attentively, seeking His input on every aspect of life.

Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Fellowship:
  “We can have as much of God's fellowship as we choose to have.” (13:49)
• On the Accuser:
  “The devil will never remind you who you are in Him.” (19:57)
• On Faith After Failure:
  “When I miss God, I don’t lose any of who I am in Christ… everything of Christ that ever belonged to me still belongs to me. And that’s faith, to stand back up in who you are in Christ after you’ve received forgiveness.” (21:45)
• On Humility vs. Fear:
  “It sounds like humility, but it’s fear, because they’re afraid of missing God… fellowship with God is part of what belongs to you in Christ.” (24:16)

Important Timestamps

• 00:10–02:00 – Introduction: God’s power and honoring the Word
• 03:15 – Key Scripture: Colossians 2:6–fellowship in daily problems
• 05:00 – Relationship vs. fellowship explained
• 08:00 – The right approach to God: thanksgiving and praise
• 11:30 – Sensing God’s presence based on yieldedness
• 14:45 – Etiquette of approach, illustrated by childhood experience
• 19:45–23:58 – Dangers of repeated repentance and fear-based approach
• 25:15 – Living in continual acknowledgement of God’s presence

Tone and Style

Nancy teaches with warmth, personal anecdotes, and clear, practical application. Her style is pastoral, gentle, but direct—emphasizing scriptural truth in a caring, relatable manner.

Summary

This episode is a deep dive into practical spirituality: how to truly live out our identity “in Christ” by daily, faith-filled fellowship with God. Nancy imparts that fellowship is our choice and responsibility—God’s presence is always available, but our experience of it depends on our approach and awareness. By rejecting self-accusation and doubt while adopting thankfulness, faith, and continual acknowledgement of God, believers will thrive in the “vital union” with Christ that Paul describes.