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There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you. You may be in a sick room, you may be in a hospital room. And I want to remind you, power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what's not. Try to get something, but notice that he's already made it yours. It's present right where you're at. Say, I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now. I receive it right now from the top of my head. From the top of my head. The soles of my feet. The soles of my feet. Welcome. We're so glad you're joining us today for Jesus the healer. And know this. It's always our honor to bring the Word to you. And isn't it an honor to hear the Word? I mean, to get to hear some of the things that we hear of the Word. The whole earth needs it. I mean, every human being in the world needs to hear this Word, and we're hearing it. I mean, think of the honor that we're getting to hear the things that are straight out of heaven, because it's out of His Word. Amen. Do you know that God, through His Word is offering us his thoughts? It behooves us to take them. It blesses us. It benefits us to take his thoughts instead of saying, you know, God, I know you're offering your thoughts, but I think I'll stick with my own. I mean, what kind of sad is that, right? Don't ever stick with what's your own when he offers you His. And as we feed on the Word, we. We're hearing the thoughts of God and we're taking higher thoughts. Amen. We have been teaching along the direction of what it means to be in Christ. And my. We'll never get to the end of this, of what is held for us in Christ. To be in Christ is as limitless as God himself. There is no ending place in this. And we're just discussing things that as the spirit of God brings them up to us. I don't know if you. If you notice or not, but I'm not really referring to notes. I'm just letting. I'm just going with what comes up in my heart. And the thing I love about that is it's tailor made for you, the viewer. Whenever I always come into every service, when I preach a service or when I film an episode, I always Come in with notes. But I always appreciate when the Holy Ghost takes us off notes. Notes are not wrong. There's nothing wrong with them. But I know he's tailoring something of that service or of that episode individually to you who is. Who are watching. And what that means is God is answering specific needs for our life. Amen. He's answering questions. And hearing from him makes all the difference. I said, hearing from him makes all the all the difference. We have been using in this series. We've been going back to a keynote scripture that's found in Colossians chapter two. And it's out of the living Bible translation that we're reading. And I want to go to verse six because there's a phrase in here that I want to at least touch on today. And Colossians 2, verse 6 reads this way. It says, and now, just as you trusted Christ to save you, trust him too, for each day's problems. Now, in a previous episode, we talked about that God doesn't just want to be available to you in the emergency moments of life, but in every day. And so he says, trust him too for each day's problems. And some of the daily problems, they seem small, but God doesn't want to be left out. What's this mean? Consult with him, acknowledge him, rely and depend on Him. Then it tells us this. How are we going to trust him for each day's problems? The next phrase tells us, live in vital union with Him. Now, what this is speaking about is fellowship with God. Amen. Now, notice the word relationship and fellowship are two different words. You don't really find the word relationship used in Scripture. It's more this word fellowship. What's the difference? Well, if a couple get married, their relationship is husband and wife. When a in a home, you have a relationship of a parent, a child, a mom, a dad, an aunt, a an uncle. All of these titles are relationship, but fellowship is what goes on within that relationship. So it matters. God will always be our Father, we'll always be his child. That is the relationship that is unchanging. So the relationship does not change. But the fellowship within that relationship can vary, right? Vary on what? Not very on God, very on us. We're the variable in our fellowship with God. Why? Because God invites us. He said, come boldly to the throne of grace that you may obtain mercy and find grace to help in the time of need. What's this say? He says, the throne is ever open to you. I so appreciate it. Says, come boldly to the throne of grace that you May that you may obtain. Listen, the throne is the place of obtaining. The throne is the place of answers. You can't go to the throne and have and leave with questions because the throne is the place of answers. The throne has no questions. It only has answers. So we come into the presence of God. That's what he's talking about. How do we do that? By faith. We approach his throne by faith. Now we know this. We are the abiding place of God. The Holy Ghost is in us. The greater One is in us. And really the Godhead is in us through the power of the Holy Ghost. But there is an actual place. There is an actual location in heaven where the throne is. And God is seated on that throne. And we are given scripture in Scripture, how to approach that throne. The Word tells us, come into his gates with thanksgiving and into his courts with praise. Notice there's a gate, there's a court before his throne. How do you do this? You don't just walk right into the throne room. You approach. You go through the gates of thanksgiving, courts of praise. So how is he to be approached with praise and thanksgiving. That gives us access, right to the throne. And it was the blood of Jesus that opened up that way for us, right? So we are invited to come to the throne anytime we want to come. Notice, he said, come boldly to the throne, but he never tells us when to leave. That's up to us. How long we stay is not up to Him. It's up to us how much we want to abide in fellowship with Him. Now, the Word also says, draw nigh unto me and I'll draw nigh unto you. What's this God is saying, if you turn toward me, I'll meet you there. Now we're the ones that determine how often we turn and how long we stay turned toward Him. God said this to me years ago because I made a statement. Have you ever made a statement that you got corrected in your statement by God? And he corrects us so sweetly? You know, sometimes I've had a stern correction, but there are some times that he's so kind in his correction, but it's still correction. And I remember a particular season when I was really practicing being aware of the presence of God, you know, to say, I've got to get in the presence of God. We know what that terminology means, but in essence, but technically, we're always in his presence. Why? Because he never leaves us nor forsakes us. He's always present, but we're not always aware of. Of His Presence. And that's what people mean when they say get in the presence of God. They're really referring to turn our awareness toward him who is always present. Now it says, draw nigh unto me, and I'll draw nigh unto you. And I remember a season when I was especially learning to practice this spiritual habit of turning my attention toward him, turning my focus toward Him. And I said to him one day, I said, God, how come I sensed you stronger yesterday, yesterday than today? I was implying that he wasn't showing up the same way in our fellowship. And he corrected me by saying this. When I said, how come I don't sense your presence as strongly today as yesterday. He said, because you yielded more. You yielded further yesterday than you're yielding today. What's that mean? You're responding to me less today than you did yesterday. So we will sense him to the measure. We respond to Him. We. The more we respond to him, the more he will, if I could say this, make himself known. Because he said, you draw nine to me, I'll draw nigh unto you. So notice he's not the one who determines when and how often that happens. We are. What's that mean? We can have as much of God's fellowship as we choose to have. He's not the one. He never shuts anyone out of fellowship. He says, come boldly to the throne of grace that you may obtain. Then we're told how to come. Come into his gates with thanksgiving, into his courts with praise. So we can't come with complaint. We, you know, you won't ever arrive. People will say, well, I don't sense. I don't sense God's presence when I talk to them. Well, what are you. What's your approach? Is it approach of complaint? Well, this never happens for me, or this is a problem in my life. We can be certain we'll arrive at precious fellowship when we come with thanksgiving and with praise. And we won't arrive in a place of fellowship with him when we have complaint, when we have murmuring, when we have fault finding or criticism in our mouth, whether it's about our situation or someone else. There's a proper way that we will find our way into his fellowship. And that is with proper approach. You know, when I was growing up, my mother was really keen on teaching the four children in our family how to handle her, how to talk to her, how to approach her. The way we approached determined what we received. If we came with a wrong tone in our voice that determined what we were going to receive. We could. If we asked for something with the wrong tone, we might have thought we were going to get what we asked for. But what we really ended up asking for in our tone was a correction. And we didn't end up with that item we were asking for. We ended up with a correction because our tone asked for something different than our words asked for. So with mother, we learned real quick that the tone of approach mattered. If there was a tone of sarcasm, if there was a tone of frustration, if there was a tone of disrespect, brother, we'd get something. But it wasn't an item that we wanted. It was correction. So approach matters. Know this. With fellowship with God, approach matters. You will not find a responsive flow whenever we talk doubt and unbelief and fear. Because God can't get involved in that flow. It's not his flow. We have to approach him in a flow that he can get involved. And God tells us the flow he can get involved in. Be thankful, praising Him. And when we do, he will respond to us. But we're the ones that set that, not Him. Draw nigh unto me and I'll draw nigh unto you. But we have to draw nigh the right way. What am I talking about? I'm still on in Christ. These are, if I could say this, this is the spiritual etiquette. Being in Christ, there is an etiquette. And there is. Just as there is an etiquette in your home, just as there is an etiquette on the job, there's an etiquette in the local church, there's an etiquette to fellowship with God. And if I could help you with this, if you start every prayer with a repentance about, oh God, I'm not this and God, I'm not that, that's not an approach that is endearing with Him. Now don't misunderstand me. If we sin, we ought to repent. But much of the time people are making an approach of repentance out of fear, out of a poor self image, out of not forgiving themselves, out of not accepting that the blood of Jesus already cleansed me from it, so I don't have to keep talking about this to God. He doesn't approach when we don't believe his word, that when we don't believe that once we confessed it, he cleansed us from it by the blood of Jesus. And then the next time we go to pray to him, we come into that approach of fellowship, bringing that back up. He doesn't appreciate that because that is Saying that his word didn't work for you. And then they wonder, why can't I sense his presence? Because he can't draw nigh to doubt and unbelief when we don't. When we have to approach him with faith in His Word. Now this is what happens. Sometimes we come to prayer or come to fellowship with God with the words of the accuser in our mouth. The enemy is the accuser of the brethren. And he is constantly pointing to our faults, our failures, what we're not, where we missed it. Because he's always pointing us back to who we are in us. The devil will never remind you who you are in him. He's always trying to get your awareness back on who you are apart from Christ. Because that's the old man. And the old man, you can't dress up and make him look good. You just can't. You can't put enough good works on the old man to make him acceptable in the presence of God. Amen. And so the devil is always pointing back toward who we are in us, where we missed it, where we disobeyed, how far we've been off course, how we should have been further, how we should have known better, how we should have done better, how we could have done better. He's always pointing to that. That is the mindset and the words of the accuser, the brethren. When you adopt that mindset and come into fellowship with God carrying that mindset, you're not going to find yourself at the place of fellowship that's offered you and God. You're going to be robbed of fellowship by the wrong approach. Every approach to God should not be made by with repentance. Because I'm not this and I'm not that. You've left out who you are in Christ when that's your approach in Christ. I'm righteous in Christ. I'm clean from the past. That's what honors God when we approach him based on who we are in Christ. Now, don't misunderstand me. When we sin, we ought to repent, but we ought to believe the Word enough to say, the blood cleanses me. And I'm not going to keep bringing that up. I know that even as a pastor that if someone were to come to me for counseling and they continually came to me over that same weakness in their life, and they kept apologizing to me and saying, pastor, I should have done better. There comes a point, after I've heard it enough, I say, quit coming to me about this. It's getting old. Hearing this, I need you to move past this so I can help you, so God can help you. You're going to have to renew your mind of what has happened when you repented. The blood cleansed you. Let's get past this. This conversation's getting old. Well, in the same way, we can have these same old conversations that we bring to God, and he doesn't appreciate it because it's no faith. It's words of the accuser being repeated in the presence of God, and that will rob us of fellowship with God. Amen. We have to recognize I come to him on the grounds of who I am in Christ, and that's the only grounds I can come to him on. I can't come to him and say, well, God, I've served you all week, therefore you owe me something of yourself, of fellowship. No, no. Who we are in Christ is an unearned position. It's not a performance position. We are in Christ because of who Christ made us to be. Not our works made us to be, not even our performance made us to be. I'm in Christ because of him and him alone. Amen. Therefore, because that's true, when I miss God, I don't lose of any of who I am in Christ. I repent when I miss God. But then everything of Christ that ever belonged to me still belongs to me. And that's faith, to stand back up in who you are in Christ after you've received forgiveness for your sin. Amen. Christians need to repent when they miss it. They need to repent when they sin. First, John 1:9 is for you. If we confess our sins, he's faithful and just to forgive us and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. So we need to have faith in that. And we say to the accuser of the brethren, I'm clean from that. Don't you bring that up to me again, because I will never, I will never put those words back in my mouth and dishonor the blood that cleansed me. When you talk about what the blood cleansed you from, and you constantly rehearse that and repeat that to push yourself down, it's a dishonor to the blood. I honor the blood by knowing that the blood was greater than my sins. I'm not going to dishonor the blood by treating my sin as greater than the blood, but I honor the blood by saying the blood was more than enough to cleanse me of that sin. And you have to talk this stuff back to the devil, not in fellowship with him, but in authority over him because he is the accuser of the brethren, he will accuse you. Do not carry those accusations to God's presence. That will hinder fellowship with God. Now, God, God appreciates a tender heart, but let me tell you what the devil does. He will try to distort a tender heart. When someone is tender towards God, they don't want to displease him. They don't want to do anything that would hurt the Father, that would hurt Jesus. And the devil takes advantage of that tenderness of heart to accuse you of all the things you've done wrong. So he plays on that and makes people fearful of missing God. And I've seen it in years of ministry that someone afraid of missing God, constantly apologizing, they make a statement, then they go, oh, I didn't mean anything by that. It wasn't anything. There was nothing wrong with that statement. But what is it? They're tender in their heart and they want to please God, but they're listening to the devil that is making them fearful of missing God. Don't ever live with a fear of missing God. It's still the flow of the enemy. Amen. And I've seen it time and time again when people are not even confident in what they say. They're constantly second guessing their words. It's a fear of missing God. And they in conversation repeatedly repent, oh, maybe I shouldn't have said that. Or maybe, oh, I'm sorry for, no, no, don't go the way of fear. Because it sounds like humility, but it's fear. Because they're afraid of missing God. And so they're constantly second guessing everything. They say, fellowship with God is part of what belongs to you in Christ. I want to read this to you again. In Colossians, chapter 2, verse 6, it says, and now, just as you trusted Christ to save you, trust him too. For each day's problems. Listen. Live in vital union with Him. Look at this. His fellowship is vital. It's vital to us every day. Look at this. To trust him for each day's problems is what belongs to us in Christ. But it's vital that our fellowship be acknowledged, that he is acknowledged. Think about this. And I was raised in Oklahoma. And in Oklahoma, hospitality was real central to the home. It was a big thing in our home growing up. If someone. Nowadays we call before we come to somebody's house, or sometimes now we even text somebody before we call them to see if we can call them. It's so unlike the way we were raised. But I remember growing up and people would just drop by to say hi. They didn't call you and tell you they were coming. They would just come by. And when they came, Mother had a living room. It was our formal living room. And as the four kids were growing up, Mother would say, none of you are allowed in that living room. That's for me to meet my guests in. She had prepared a room to receive people who would drop by to visit her. That was what the living room was for. That was not the kids playroom. Today the living room is almost dismissed from a lot of households just because things have changed in the way we operate in society. But that was a place of fellowship. And you prepared a room waiting for your guests to arrive. And they could drop by any time. And when they dropped by, you dropped everything. If you were mowing the yard, you came in from out of the yard. If you were cooking in the kitchen, you came in from out of the kitchen. You stopped what you were doing to host the people that were important in your life. That was what. That was the way we grew up in a flow of hospitality because it was so inappropriate that if somebody came by to visit you, that you just went about your daily duties, you greeted them at the door, said, oh, come in, have a seat. And then you went off. You cleaned the kitchen, you went off, you made the beds. You did not even stop and acknowledge that they were present in the room. That was the, that was to. That was such a disrespect to the fellowship with that person. You would never think of doing that. Well, even so, he resides on the inside of us. He does not want us to go about our day. And not even acknowledging who's present in the room, not even drawing on him, just saying, I'll handle this myself. I'll clean up the mess of my life myself. I'll raise the children all by myself. And going about in the household of your life, just trying to live when he's sitting there all the time available to us, but we're just running around as though he's not even the room, not even in the room, not even acknowledging his presence. But this is what we're invited to do in Christ. It says live in vital union with Him. Meaning this, that we go to his presence and we say, how do you direct me in this? How do you lead me? And then you go fulfill that obedience. And then you come back, okay, how do I do this and how do I do that? And then you obey that. Then you come back in vital fellowship and vital union. And you say, okay, how do I handle this situation? He's consulted on every turn. That's the in life, the in Christ life. That's the life where we're living the life he authored for us. Amen. Leaning, depending and obeying the one who resides within. Well, we're able to come to you today for one reason. Because of the generosity of Kenneth Copeland and Kenneth Copeland Ministries, he has sown this airtime to our ministry. He sows the airtime to every programmer on this channel. Think of it. This is the only man in the entire earth that I know had the ability and the faith to make this decision. And we're recipients of it. He's sowing into every viewer. He's sowing into our ministry. And so we ask you that if you're not already, pray about becoming a partner with Kenneth Copeland Ministries by going to kcm.org you can sign up there to become a partner. And it keeps this word coming into your home. It's a life changing word. Your family needs it, your home needs it. Your life needs it. So be a part of being a supply for this word that comes into your home. And until next time, remember this. Jesus is the healer. God bless you.
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Date: July 11, 2025
Host: Nancy Dufresne
In this episode, Nancy Dufresne continues her long-running series focusing on what it means to be "in Christ." The central theme revolves around the vital importance of living in daily fellowship with God, understanding our identity in Christ, and learning the proper "spiritual etiquette" for approaching God. Through practical insights and relatable stories, Nancy emphasizes how faith, continual awareness of God's presence, and correct spiritual postures shape our everyday walk and access to God’s power.
The throne of grace is “the place of answers,” not questions.
We are welcomed to come “boldly to the throne,” and it’s up to us how long we stay in fellowship.
Approaching God requires an "etiquette": entering “His gates with thanksgiving and into His courts with praise,” not complaint or murmuring.
Nancy shares a personal story about asking God why His presence seemed stronger on one day versus another:
The more we acknowledge Him, the more real His presence becomes. We set the measure of our fellowship by our own responsiveness.
Not every approach to God should be based in repentance over past confessed sins; to continually rehearse forgiven faults dishonors Christ’s blood.
The enemy is the "accuser of the brethren," always pointing back at who we are in ourselves. Our standing before God is “on the grounds of who I am in Christ.”
True humility is not self-doubt, but agreeing with what God’s Word says about us.
Nancy teaches with warmth, personal anecdotes, and clear, practical application. Her style is pastoral, gentle, but direct—emphasizing scriptural truth in a caring, relatable manner.
This episode is a deep dive into practical spirituality: how to truly live out our identity “in Christ” by daily, faith-filled fellowship with God. Nancy imparts that fellowship is our choice and responsibility—God’s presence is always available, but our experience of it depends on our approach and awareness. By rejecting self-accusation and doubt while adopting thankfulness, faith, and continual acknowledgement of God, believers will thrive in the “vital union” with Christ that Paul describes.