Podcast Summary: "Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast"

Episode 793 | In Christ I Can, Part 33

Date: July 16, 2025
Host: Nancy Dufresne (Dufresne Ministries)

Episode Overview

In this episode of "Jesus the Healer," Nancy Dufresne continues her deep dive into the series "In Christ I Can," focusing on the transformative power and riches granted to believers through their union with Christ. This teaching emphasizes faith, healing, the importance of renewing the mind, recognizing what belongs to us in Christ, and following the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Nancy reinforces that being "in Christ" removes all earthly limitations, providing believers with access to God's limitless provision—not just spiritually, but practically in daily life, healing, finances, and relationships.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Power Present with Every Believer

• [00:10] Nancy opens by affirming there is "enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one."
• The power of God is omnipresent; receiving it is about acknowledging and declaring, "I receive that power. I receive it right now."
• Quote:

  "You can't live healed thinking about your symptoms. You can't receive healing thinking about your body. What we put our attention on is what flows." (Nancy, 06:20)

2. Living Vital Union with Christ

• Teaching rooted in Colossians 2:6 (The Living Bible):

  "And now, just as you trusted Christ to save you... trust him to look at this for each day's problems." (Nancy, paraphrasing, 04:30)

• "Vital union" means ongoing, conscious fellowship with Christ is essential—every bit as important as safeguarding our vital organs.
• Quote:

  "Our fellowship with him is vital to who we are in Christ. We cannot just be... mindless in our fellowship, not even noticing that we need his fellowship throughout the day." (Nancy, 05:36)

3. The Power of Focus and Attention

• What we continually acknowledge we give permission to operate in our lives.
• Nancy shares an anecdote from a healing school, recounting a vision: those fixated on their symptoms could not receive healing because their attention was misplaced.

  "Their attention was on their symptoms. What we hold in our attention is what we're giving Permission to in our life." (Nancy, 09:54)

• The key to breakthrough: turn our attention from the need to what God says about the need.

4. Feeding on the Word According to Need

• Direct devotional time towards Scriptures related to one's current need (healing, finances, etc.).
• God often addresses the root of problems through unexpected "access roads" (e.g. He may highlight a relational issue as the true source of a financial challenge).

  "We think that our need is in one direction and he knows the problem, why it’s showing up over here. The source began over here." (Nancy, 13:12)

5. The Soul as the Gateway to Health and Prosperity

• 3 John 1:2 (paraphrased): Health and prosperity come "even as your soul prospers"—i.e., to the degree your mind is renewed.
• Paul calls this "renewing of the mind" (Romans 12:2); John calls it "prospering of the soul"; David calls it "restoring the soul" (Psalm 23)—all refer to the same process.
• Prosperity and healing in the physical and financial realms are often the visible results of mind renewal and soul prosperity.

6. True Provision Comes from God, Not Man

• Nancy shares personal stories about refusing financial help after her husband's passing, choosing instead to look to God as her sole provider.

  "If I start practicing leaning and looking to someone else to step in and offer me relief, I’m going to forfeit victory." (Nancy, 22:19)

• Mindset shift: "I didn’t become a single income home. I became a heavenly supplied home."
• Reliance on God’s covenant outlasts reliance on people, incomes, or circumstances.

7. High-Level Thinking Invites Greater Provision

• Financial and physical struggles are best answered by “higher thoughts”—aligning with God's perspective—rather than resource-driven striving.

  "If finances trouble us, it’s because we’re invited to higher thinking." (Nancy, 25:08)

• Money is not the cure for lack; the cure is aligning thoughts with the Word and God's covenant.

8. Obedience and Healing

• Sometimes, persistent physical problems indicate deeper issues, such as disobedience—not just a need for repeating healing scriptures.

  "You can't throw healing scriptures... when we're standing on the ground in disobedience and think those healing scriptures can heal us when it's obedience that's called for." (Nancy, 26:19)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Healing and Attention:

  "You can’t live healed thinking about your symptoms. You can't receive healing thinking about your body. What we put our attention on is what flows." (Nancy, 06:20)

• On Vital Union with Christ:

  "Our fellowship with Him is vital to who we are in Christ. We cannot just be mindless in our fellowship… It's vital to living the life He authored for us." (Nancy, 05:36)

• On 'Access Roads' and Hearing God's Solutions:

  "Many times we think we have a need in one direction. And come to find out, the root of that need is way over here in another direction… God does the same thing: it’s an access road to the answer." (Nancy, 13:00 - 13:45)

• On God's Provision When Widowed:

  "I didn’t become a single income home. I became a heavenly supplied home... Why would I look to a man to be my provider when God offers Himself?" (Nancy, 22:19)

• On Prosperity:

  "You’re not prosperous because your paycheck... Money never made any believer prosperous... My wealth is Him. When I draw on Him, I’m drawing on the wealth of heaven." (Nancy, 18:40)

• On Obedience and Healing:

  "Many times people need healing because they lack obeying something that God told them to do... You can't throw healing scriptures at disobedience and get healed." (Nancy, 26:19)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• God’s Power is Present to Heal — [00:10]
• Series Introduction & Importance of Living “In Christ” — [01:00]
• Colossians 2:6, Faith for Daily Problems — [03:45]
• “Vital Union” Explained — [05:36]
• The Role of Attention: Healing School Story — [09:54]
• Access Roads—God’s Path to the Root of Needs — [13:00]
• 3 John 1:2 and the Renewing of the Mind — [14:52]
• Practical Testimony: Depending on God for Provision — [21:00]
• Right Thinking vs. Money as Provision — [24:00]
• Obedience as a Key to Healing — [26:19]

Episode Takeaways

• The believer’s union with Christ is limitless and the foundation for all spiritual and practical provision.
• Healing and prosperity flow from where we set our attention—and from aligning our thinking with God's thoughts.
• God’s solutions often require addressing root issues (the “access road”), not just symptoms or surface needs.
• Relying on God as provider is the key to sustained abundance; right thinking is more crucial than right circumstances.
• Healing is not just about confessing scriptures but about obeying God and allowing Him to restore the soul.

This episode is an empowering call to shift from striving to rest, from scarcity to fullness, by recognizing what it truly means to be "in Christ."