Podcast Summary:

Podcast: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
Episode: 795 | In Christ I Can, Part 35
Date: July 18, 2025
Host: Nancy Dufresne (Dufresne Ministries)
Theme: Living in the reality of what belongs to us as believers “in Christ,” with special emphasis on the need for revelation, continuous spiritual change, practical application, and the work of the Holy Spirit.

Overview

In this episode, Nancy Dufresne explores what it truly means to live "in Christ," focusing on the necessity of revelation (a spiritual "handle") to grasp and live out God’s best for us. She unpacks Paul's prayer in Ephesians 1 for believers to receive wisdom and revelation, discusses the Holy Spirit's role in transforming our understanding, and illustrates how inward spiritual changes affect both our lives and physical wellbeing. Nancy shares personal testimonies and practical analogies, encouraging listeners to embrace correction and change as pathways to greater glory.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Presence and Power of God in Every Situation

• Even in a "sick room or hospital room," God's power is present and available.
  • Quote: "There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one... Power is present... Say, I receive that power." (00:10)
• Receive what has already been made yours in Christ, rather than striving for it.

2. Living According to Who We Are in Christ

• The Word of God sets our lives on course for God’s best when obeyed.
• God takes us as we are, but never leaves us as we are.
  • Quote: “Thank God he didn’t leave us like he found us… There’s always more for us.” (01:25)
• Continuous growth and discovery of what belongs to us in Christ is essential.

3. The Role of Revelation: Paul's Prayer in Ephesians 1

• Nancy focuses on Ephesians 1:16-18, highlighting Paul’s prayer for "the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him" (Jesus).
• The Holy Spirit reveals these truths—not just as concepts, but something to be lived.
  • Quote: “Revelation is the handle. It’s revealed to us so we can grab it and live it.” (07:20)
• Analogy of a cup: Revelation is the 'handle' that makes the truths of God’s Word graspable and applicable.

4. Practical Application of Spirit-Led Living

• We need more than information; we need to know how to apply faith and truths practically in our daily lives.
• The Holy Spirit's personal instructions (e.g., "Don’t say that anymore") help us align with our new identity.

5. The Process of Change: Embracing Correction

• Transformation comes when the Holy Spirit points out what needs adjusting—not as condemnation, but as a safeguard and invitation to greater glory.
  • Quote: “It is not what we are doing right that’s hurting our life. It’s what we do wrong… It’s wrong actions, wrong words.” (15:15)
• Example of King Hezekiah: God’s warning ("Set your house in order") was a rescue, not a sentence. Change allowed God to extend his life. (17:10)
• Correction from God, pastors, or fellow believers should be received with gratitude, not offense.

6. Personal Testimonies of Correction and Change

• Nancy shares her personal experience with a dream from God warning her of a negative outcome if change was not embraced.
  • Quote: “The anointing was in the room. There was no fear with it. And I knew the meaning… The change brought me into greater glory. What is that? Extended life.” (22:30 - 24:00)
• She emphasizes the importance of recognizing God’s pleasure (or displeasure) and responding quickly to His promptings.

7. Inward Changes Lead to Outward Results

• Spiritual adjustments impact not only our relationship with God, but also our physical health and circumstances.
• Shares a testimony of her husband being healed from cancer after asking God what needed to change: proper rest and obedience to God’s instructions were the keys.
  • Quote (her husband's words): “God, you don't miss it? I've missed it. Where have I missed it?” (25:45)
  • Result: Upon changing, within 30 days he was healed.

8. Correction as a Privilege and Path to Glory

• The Holy Spirit continually leads us into adjustments, not for condemnation, but to lift us up and move us into the fullness of Christ.
• Quote: “Conviction of your own spirit shows you what to do and shows you how to get out of it, how to exit that place and come to a further place.” (26:45)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the need for continual revelation:
  • "We want to live as rich as we are, not find out how we could have lived all along." (06:00)
• On embracing spiritual correction:
  • "Corrections are a rescue. And when they come... be grateful and show gratitude. Because if you change, there's glory on the other side of that." (20:35)
• On inward change affecting physical well-being:
  • “When he made inward adjustments, his body responded. Responded to what? Healing power.” (25:45)
• On the kindness of God’s correction:
  • "He didn't leave me going down the wrong path... It was a rescue to me." (15:45)
• On God’s persistent leading:
  • "God's always dealing with us about something... If we're not always adjusting something, then we're missing his leading." (26:00)

Important Timestamps

• 00:10 — Affirmation of God’s healing power in any situation
• 01:25 — Reflection on transformation and continual growth in Christ
• 04:30 — Introduction to Paul's prayer (Ephesians 1) and the focus on revelation
• 07:20 — “Handle” analogy for revelation—making spiritual truths accessible
• 12:00 — Explanation of Holy Spirit’s practical, everyday correction
• 15:00 — Difference between condemnation and conviction; the purpose of correction
• 17:10 — Story of King Hezekiah and the rescue of God’s warning
• 20:35 — Correction as a form of rescue, not offense
• 22:30–24:00 — Nancy’s personal testimony of a God-given dream and resultant life changes
• 25:45 — Testimony of her husband’s healing tied to obedience and inward adjustment
• 26:00–27:00 — The ongoing, gentle leading of the Holy Spirit into change

Takeaways

• Living in Christ is not just a theological position; it is a daily reality fueled by ongoing revelation.
• The Holy Spirit’s guidance and correction are gifts, not punishments, guiding believers into God’s fullness.
• Inward spiritual changes—embraced with gratitude—lead to outward transformation, including healing and strengthening.
• Regular self-examination and adjustment, empowered by the Holy Spirit, are vital marks of the Christian life.

Final Encouragement:
Nancy closes by urging listeners to be grateful for every form of correction, whether through the Word, pastors, or the Spirit, as it all brings us into a richer experience of God’s glory. "Be grateful… because it's easier to learn it from somebody you can hear and see in this realm." (27:00)

For further teachings or to connect with the ministry, visit dufresneministries.org.