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There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you. You may be in a sick room, you may be in a hospital room. And I want to remind you, power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what's not. Try to get something, but notice that he's already made it yours. It's present right where you're at. Say, I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now. I receive it right now from the top of my head. From the top of my head. The soles of my feet. The soles of my feet. Welcome. We're so grateful you're joining us today for Jesus the healer. And we are so thrilled and privileged to get to spend this time with you. Thank you for taking the time to join us and to feed on the Word with us. I mean, listen, every human in the world needs the word of God. And think of it, we're the ones finding it. Isn't that something? It says over In Proverbs, chapter four, it says that. Well, verse 20 starts with, My son, attend to my words. Look at this. Put your attention on my words. And then down in verse 22, it says this, for my words, they are life unto. Look at this life unto those that find them. Look at that life unto those that find them. They're not life to everyone. They're life only to those who take the time to find them. So today, as we teach and as you become a student of the Word and receive this Word, you are taking time to find life. Amen. Words are life. His words are life. So we're so grateful to spend this time together with you because we're believing that in these words you hear answers in these words that there's revelations for your life. And what we never want to do is just be good at taking notes on the Word, right? We don't just want to be a good note taker. We don't just want to be a good church attender. We should attend church, absolutely. But we, we do these things so that we'll be better doers. It's all about the doing. And so when we hear the words that God gives us in these episodes, we decide we're doers, right? And doing the Word is what makes all the difference. And so we have been on a series now what we're calling in him or in Christ. And we've talked about different facets of it. But we are just continuing exploring, discovering, studying, teaching about what it means to be in Christ because there's so many layers to it, we could never discuss it all. Everything he is, is ours. And the Word tells us, even as he is, so are we in this world. So notice this. As he is, well, where is He? Well, he's in Heaven. He's at the right hand of the Father. Right? But it says, even as he is, so are we in this world. So we don't have to go there before we can be in the same flow. Amen. Amen. He is in us, we are in Him. And the mind cannot fully grasp and calculate what that means. But the heart can receive revelation on it. And as we do, it directs and changes the way we live everyday life. We have been looking at a verse making it our golden text in Colossians chapter two in verse six. And I especially like how the living Bible translation reads on this. It says, and now, just as you trusted Christ to save, you trust him to for each day's problems. Now notice evidently Paul was recognizing something. We can trust him to be our Savior and then stop right there and not trust him for the everyday things of life. We can trust as Savior. He's our, he's our eternal Savior. That that's going to affect our eternity when we trust him as Savior. But he's saying, don't just trust him for eternity. Bring it into the, into the now, bring it into today and trust him for every single day situations. Listen, anything that's important to you is important to Him. Now notice that if it matters to you, it matters to him because he's so interested in you. And too many times we just think that Jesus is only interested in the spiritual aspects of our life. Well, as parents, you're not. You are first and foremost interested in the spiritual well being of your children, right? But you're not only interested in that. It matters to you whether they have food, it matters to you whether they have clothes. It matters to you that they have the things they enjoy. Well, we're not a better parent than God. He is interested first and foremost in our spiritual well being because that's going to affect our eternity. But he is interested also in the things that matter to us in this temporal life. Because he wants anything you enjoy. He wants to bless you with it. The Word tells us he has given us richly all things. Look at this. To enjoy. Sometimes he has given me things. I don't really need them, I just enjoy them. I have some of the most expensive Things in my home are not things I needed. They're simply things that I enjoy. And he had no problem providing me with the ability to secure those things. Amen.
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As I said, God's not just interested in spiritual things, he's interested in everything that's connected to you. Let me tell you, you know, on these episodes, I tell off on me a lot. Have you ever noticed that? But I only have my life to draw from. I can't draw from yours to tell, but I can certainly tell some things on me. And I don't really care, you know, that it's out there. My family and my husband and I both were this way. We both very open, you know, we told. We don't tell everything as long as it's appropriate to tell. But I remember a time when my youngest son, he was about 4 years old and you know, sometimes you'll notice in your children, some of them really pay attention to how they dress and their clothing and if they match and if they like certain colors and it becomes quite important to them even at a young age, then others don't even notice. They don't even, they don't realize, hey, this is a pajama pant with a dress shirt you're wearing. You know, they don't even notice and they're perfectly fine. It doesn't really matter. And that just, that just adds color to our life, doesn't it? That there's all these diverse things about each other. But my youngest son, when he was young, it mattered to him about certain things. He was particular, he liked colors, he liked to dress a certain way. And it's our job as a parent to train them in what's appropriate, right? And train them in good taste and what represents the family the best. But I remember when he was about 4 years old and he was at that time very blond headed. And we had his hair cut a certain way and it had some length, a little bit more length on the front. The sides and back were kind of short, but there was that length on the front. And he liked having a little bit of length because he liked to be able to touch, you know, and get a little bit and be able to feel his hair. But in the summertime, because it would be so hot in our area, I always wanted to, hey, why don't we just cut it pretty short? Not only did it, was it cooler, but mom didn't have to work at it so much, you know, it was just easier to spray it down, brush it and there you go, go play. And so I was trying to talk him into cutting it shorter, and he said, no, mommy, I don't want it shorter. You know, he made it really clear that he liked it the way it was. Well, I kept trying to say, listen, don't you think you'd like to look a little bit like a bigger boy? You know, you'd look like a older, you know, mommas, we use our, you know, we use our strategies to. With our kids. And so he just wouldn't be swayed. Well, one day I had. I had the staff over at the house, and we were working on a project that had a very tight deadline on it. There were probably about six members, staff members at my house that day. Well, I had an appointment outside the home, so I had to go to this appointment for about an hour or two. And so my youngest son was at home and the staff were there, and so I just left him there with the staff. Well, when I returned from my appointment, a staff member met me at the door with my youngest son and said, pastor Nancy, we wanted to show you what happened while you were gone. And my son had gotten hold of some. Back then they called it gak, but maybe today we'd call it slime or, you know, just, I don't know, I don't know all the names. Maybe, you know, Silly Putty, those kinds of things. But it was really wet and it was really sticky. And he had gotten it in his hair on purpose. It didn't just, you know, accidentally he put it in his hair and then worked it into his hair. And because his hair had length, it was stuck. And so one of the employees said, you know, we got out some oil, we tried to release it. It didn't work. And so here he is, you know, And I said, oh, I saw my opportunity. This is the perfect time to cut his hair short. Now stick with me. We're going to arrive at something. This is not just a fond memory of a mama I'm telling. I'm going to. I'm trying to demonstrate and illustrate something to you. So I saw my perfect opportunity. There's nothing left to do with this except cut his hair short. So I get out, you know, all the stuff to cut his hair. I got scissors, I've got, you know, the clippers, whatever, and I'm going to take it short. And he's just overwhelmed with sobbing at the thought that he's not. He's going to have to have his hair cut short. And you know me, it's like, buck up, boy. You know, come on, let's Take it you're the one that did this. I didn't do it to you. You did it. And you know what? And I said to him, it's just hair. It will grow back. And that is true. It will grow back. It's not life threatening. But it did matter to him. But I'm telling you, he was just wailing. It just. It meant something to him. And so I just. If I could say this, you know, as a parent, you have to learn how to diffuse your children so that they get them down, out of the rafters. Come on back down. Come on back down. And so you downplay things. And I really downplayed it for his benefit, but I downplayed it because it didn't happen to me. It wasn't a big deal. And so right before I start cutting his hair short, a staff member comes up and said, you know, Pastor Nancy, I remember when I was little and I fell asleep with gum in my hair one time, and my mother got it out with peanut butter. And I said, if oil. They put oil all in his hair. If oil's not gonna get it out, peanut butter's not gonna get it out. So I just said, come on, let's make it happen. So I go to cut the length out of his hair, because I'm thinking if I cut the length out and there's not all the long. The length that you have to get that product through that you can get that product to release. So I cut it, and really I was gonna cut it quite short, but I just kind of chopped out the length and chopped out where a lot of that product was. And then I realized, oh, it's down to his scalp and it's not releasing. So now he's got a chopped up haircut. And I'm not done yet. But I realize I've got to get this product out before I can even cut his hair properly. So I thought, bring me the peanut butter. So I told Sam, bring me the peanut butter. Let's try it. The moment that hit his hair, it released. And I go, oh, Meaning we didn't have to cut the length out. I could have done that first, but because it wasn't a big deal to me, I did not try everything. So, I mean, this little guy, he's just. He just going through it, you know, watching. He's standing in front of the mirror and watching his mom take the length off of his hair. And we finally. We get peanut butter in his hair. We get the slime out of his hair, we wash it, and Then I just cut it, and it still looked cute, but it's not what he wanted. And so he's just standing in the bathroom after it's all done and just sobbing. And I just said, hey, be a big boy. Come on. You know, I'm just trying to pep him up and, you know, it'll grow back. You look like a big boy. You look like a really big boy, you know, with your haircut. And I walked out, and you could hear just sobbing. And so I walked down the hallway, and God said to me, I want to talk to you. And I thought, fine. You know, I thought, maybe he's going to congratulate me on all the gymnastics I just went through with my son. You know, what a good parent you are, you know? And he said, I want to talk to you. And I did not realize that I was fixing to get a talking to. And I said, sure. And he said it was important to him that his hair not be cut. I go, yep, I recognize that. And he said, because it was important to him, it was important to me. And he said, and I don't appreciate that what was important to me was not important to you. Ah, it wasn't just now my son, it was God got involved because my son had something important to him, God made it important to him. Now, notice that changed everything for me that day. I saw this. If it's important to someone, it's my job to make it important to me, even if it's not important to me. Does that make sense to you? That changed how I handled my marriage, how I handled pastoring, how I handled people I meet. Just, it handled. It affected how I handled everyone. Because if something was important to them, I was to on purpose make it important to me. Because not everything is important to me. Just because it's important to someone else, that's not automatically important to me. I make it important to me. Now. There's the difference. And so I said all that to say this. If it's important to you, God made it important to him. He chose to take that which was important to you and put it in his own interest, in his own affection. Wow. Because people will many times downplay what's important to you, but God never will. That's good. Others may say, you know, what they do in their profession, that's not that big of a deal. That's not that important. Well, if it's important to them, God makes it important to him. And I will say this, that if we will learn to make something important to us when normally Ordinarily it wouldn't have been what peace that brings to the home, what unity that brings to the marriage. What about to the body of Christ, to a vision of a church? If a vision is important to God, I make it important to me. Now then, that goes back to Matthew, chapter 6, verse 33. Seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you. You know, you know why some believers struggle? They have not made important to them what's important to God. If it's important to God, I make it important to me. Even if ordinarily I wouldn't have recognized it as important. If it's important to God, it's important to me. God showed me in the simplest form through my son's experience. He said it was important to him that his hair not be cut. Now think of it. God's the creator of the, of the universe. Do you really think that on his own he would have thought the length of my, my son's hair was a big deal? Not on his own, but the way, the way my son processed it, then God took that personal. God chose to make personal to him what was personal to a four year old. Ah. And so we have to realize as one in Christ. Everything that's important to Christ is important to me by choice. Even if I would not have ordinarily have noticed the importance of it, I make it important. Now, what about in a marriage? What does that do to bring that mindset into your marriage? If it's important to your spouse, it's your responsibility to make it important to you. As long as that which is important to them is in line with righteousness. Because there are some people that they have ways or thinking that's unrighteous. You don't make that important to you just because you're married to them. I'm talking about as long as it honors God, it doesn't violate who we are in Christ. That means that if I would do this, my husband, if he liked doing certain thing, even if I didn't like doing it of my own, I made it important to me and I'd go do it with him. If he wanted me to go with him on a certain hobby or certain something he wanted to do, I did it. And I chose to be as thrilled about it as he was. Because if I go, but I'm complaining the whole time I'm going, I still have not made it important to me. To make it important to me is to make it to be as thrilled with it as they Are you better learn that with people because God expects that of what's important to him. When you make this is what Matthew 6:33 is all about. If you will make my kingdom important to you, the flow of that kingdom will turn around and bless your life and add to you things you never could have added to yourself just because you chose to make important to you what is important to God. Amen. When we're in Christ, that means everything that matters to him matters to us. Can I tell you what matters to him the most? People. Yeah. Even above things, above professions, people matter the most. I remember, I don't know that I've ever shared this before, but I remember years ago I had a dream one night and I warn you, don't try to turn every dream into a spiritual event. Don't over spiritualize every dream. But sometimes God may speak to us in dreams. It's part of what the new covenant says, that in the last days that there will. God will give us dreams. In this dream I recognized that it was from God. And sometimes a dream is just showing us something of importance. I don't know if you've ever heard of the evangelist Amy Semple McPherson. Now she was a evangelist on the forefront in the early part of the 1900s. Her ministry was huge. It was the biggest, most well known probably in the world at that time. Brother Hagin stated about her because she had such a strong miracle ministry. He said if you took all the healing evangelists of the 1947-1958, there was a healing revival here in the United states. Oral Roberts, A.A. allen, Jack Coe, William Branham Bosworth, F.F. bosworth, all of these generals of the faith that had strong healing ministries, thousands and thousands and thousands flocked to their meetings and were ministered to. Brother Hagin said you could take all of their miracles, add them all up into one and they didn't total half the number of miracles she had alone through her ministry. It was. They would. She would hold a three day meeting down in Balboa park in San Diego. She held a three day meeting in a stadium and you had to be sick to get into that stadium or accompanying someone sick. It just wasn't open to the general public because there were so many people that they had to strike who could attend. And she was there for three days, all day long, over 12 hours a day. And they would haul off truckloads of paraphernalia, wheelchairs, crutches, braces, stretchers. So when I say that she was someone leading in the healing ministry on the Forefront of revival. This is who this woman was. She was. She was the first one to own her own Christian radio station that was on the air 24 hours a day. She was just on the forefront, on the cutting edge of things. And her life was full of all kinds of ministry responsibilities. And in this dream that I had years ago, I walked into her, the lobby, the out. The reception area of where her office would have been. You know, when God shows you something, you just know everything about that setting. And she was in her office having a meeting. And I knew it was a business meeting. It wasn't with ministers or anything. It was a business meeting. And there was her secretary that was out in the reception area. There was a white leather couch that had a wide arm to it. And there was this one woman who came in. I would say she was probably in her late 70s, maybe early 80s. And something devastating had just happened to her. And she walked in and she asked to meet with Sister Amy. And this receptionist had her to take a seat on the couch. And that woman was there just sobbing because something devastating had happened. And the secretary chimed into the office where Amy was meeting with businessmen. There were attorneys in there. I'm talking. There were professional men that she. It was. She was having to pay them to be there in that meeting. And this secretary told her of the situation of this woman that was that had arrived. And Sister Amy came, got up, walked out of that business meeting and came and sat on the arm of that chair, that couch, because it was wide enough to sit on. And she just sat and held that woman and ministered to her and talked to her. And in the whole scene, I saw that Sister Amy walked away from important business because something more important entered the room. Someone in need. What was it? She made what was important at that setting, most important was not business. Most important was someone's need. And God was showing me no amount of business is as important as people and meeting their needs. Now, what is this? This is how you think in Christ. What's important to him? People? What's important to him? Meeting the needs of the people. Now, we do have a business side to our own personal lives, every one of us. There's natural business we must take care of, professional business we must take care of. In ministry there is a business side. But know this. The business is only there to support the ability to minister to the people. The business is not the ministry. The people are the ministry. Now, this is an in Christ mindset that if it's important to him, I make it important to me, I don't know if Sister Amy personally knew that woman because her congregation was large, but she made that woman's need important to her. Even though she did not know the details of that need, she chose to make that woman's need important to her so that she can minister to her. Listen, God will never send you to minister to someone you don't love. He'll never send you to minister to someone that's not important to you. You choose for them to be important not because you know them, but because you chose for them to be important to you. Amen. Well, this is the life Christ. In him we live and move. Look at this. We move towards the needs of people the way he moves toward them. Amen. Well, you don't want to miss next time because we're still going to be going this direction. And until next time, remember this Jesus is the Healer. God bless you.
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Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
Episode 798 | In Christ I Can, Part 38
Date: July 23, 2025
Host: Nancy Dufresne (Dufresne Ministries)
This episode of "Jesus the Healer" with Nancy Dufresne continues the ongoing series exploring the truths of being "In Christ," focusing on what belongs to believers, the importance of renewing the mind, and learning to live every day in the reality and flow of Christ’s provisions. Nancy emphasizes practical faith, the relevance of God’s Word for everyday problems, understanding what truly matters to God, and the power of making what’s important to God important to us.
Nancy Dufresne’s tone throughout the episode is warm, candid, and practical. She openly shares both spiritual lessons and personal missteps, always returning to scriptural foundations and practical application.
This episode powerfully encourages believers to recognize and act on what truly matters to God in every realm of daily life—from our personal concerns, to our marriages, to the way we approach ministry and relationships. Nancy’s key message: in Christ, part of walking in His power and blessing is aligning our priorities with His, choosing by faith and love to value people, details, and needs the way He does.
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