Podcast Summary: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne

Episode: 826 | In Christ I Can, Part 66

Date: September 1, 2025
Host/Teacher: Nancy Dufresne

Overview of the Episode

In this rich teaching episode, Nancy Dufresne continues her “In Christ I Can” series, emphasizing the believer’s position and capabilities in Christ. This installment explores the vital concept of renewing the mind with God’s Word, the importance of meditating on and acting in faith, and living daily with a consciousness of Christ within. Through scripture exposition, personal testimony, and practical advice, Nancy encourages listeners to move beyond their own limitations and engage in the supernatural lifestyle that comes with being “in Christ.” A memorable teaching detailed the story of Kenneth Copeland’s faith action in sowing a significant offering when it seemed impossible—demonstrating how God’s instructions are accompanied by His provision and power.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

The Power and Presence of God Available Now

• Every Believer’s Access to Healing Power ([00:10])
  • Nancy opens by reminding listeners that God's power is present in every sick room and hospital room, ready to bring healing if received by faith.

    “Power is present. That power is there to do a work… Say, I receive that power. I receive it right now.” — Nancy Dufresne ([00:18])

The Renewing of the Mind

• Why the Mind Must Be Renewed, Not Just the Spirit ([00:53]–[05:50])

  • Upon salvation, one's spirit is made new, filled with God’s nature. However, the mind must undergo an ongoing process of renewal by the Word.
  • Reference to Romans 12:2:

    “Be ye transformed by the renewing of the mind.”

  • Nancy explains:

    “We have to do something with this thought life while we’re in this world. If we don’t renew our minds, our lives will look like those who are unsaved… Wrong thinking is an open door to the devil, but right thinking is an open door to God.” — Nancy Dufresne ([02:40])

• The Engrafted Word and Saving the Soul

  • Citing James, Nancy emphasizes the importance of having the Word deeply rooted—engrafted—in the heart, not merely held intellectually.

    “Receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.” — Nancy Dufresne paraphrasing James ([04:20])

• Renewing the Mind is a Lifelong Process

  “There’s never a time that we say, ‘Oh, I’ve arrived at a renewed mind’; it’s an ongoing occupation for every believer…” ([05:25])

Faith in Action: Kenneth Copeland’s Testimony

• Testimony of Obedience and Supply ([06:45]–[14:00])

  • Story: In the 1970s, Kenneth Copeland was instructed by God to give $50,000 (which he did not have) to Kenneth Hagin’s ministry. His response:

    “‘In Christ I have it, and in Christ I can give it.’ Notice… what Brother Copeland’s thoughts and words went to first was what I have in Christ, not what I have in my checking account.” ([08:20])

  • Nancy highlights that Copeland’s faith was not in his resources but in his identity and union with Christ.

• Acting in Faith, Not Just Speaking

  “He took the amount he did have and made movement… at the end of every day, he would put that change in a box… He was taking actions of faith, because by taking actions of faith, now God can fill those actions with His abundance.” ([13:00])

• God Performs, We Receive the Harvest

  “He does the work, then turns around and blesses us because we allowed Him to do the work through us. My, my, my, what a deal. Take that deal every day of your life.” ([14:55])

Living Consciously as "In Christ"

• Responding to God’s Instructions

  “When God commands something of you, it’s because He’s ready to perform it through you… don’t go to ‘How am I going to do that?’ Go first to who’s in you.” ([16:45])

• Agreement and Obedience

  • Our words and actions matter. Agreement with God starts with what we say, but obedience requires taking steps even when resources seem insufficient.

    “Your agreement begins with the words you say when God tells or commands something of your life.” ([18:25])

Biblical Examples of Divine Supply

• Jesus’ Example ([19:45])

  “Jesus said, ‘My Father in me, He does the works.’ …We’re to say, ‘The Greater One in Me, He’s doing the works.’”

  • Nancy teaches that we are the channel for God; God seeks our agreement and willingness above our abilities.

• Elijah and the Widow of Zarephath ([23:15])

  • God used unlikely vessels—a widow with little—to bring sustained provision.

    “Could God have kept using birds to supply the prophet? Absolutely. But God’s not just looking to bless birds. He wants to bless anyone who will be a channel He can flow through.” ([25:20])

A Lifestyle, Not a One-time Event

• Miracle Provision is for Every Day

  “When God shows up, God doesn’t just have one day of provision in mind. He has many days of miracle power, many days of manifestation.” ([26:00])

• Practical Encouragement

  “Begin to say every day, ‘Christ is in me. He’s moving through me, He’s performing through me. I’m in Him, He’s in me, and God is manifesting through my life.’ It’s not about what I have, it’s about Who I have in me…” ([26:50])

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the necessity of both heart and thought renewal:

  “Our minds need the Word of God too, because our minds need the renewing that only happens by sitting under the Word and taking the thoughts of the Word.” — Nancy Dufresne ([01:00])

• On practical meditation:

  “Listen over and over to one particular broadcast… that’s one way we meditate on the Word.” ([06:00])

• On faith and obedience:

  “You cannot steer a parked car. God can’t either.” ([13:40])

• On the generosity of God:

  “The goodness of God is such that He does the work, then turns around and blesses us because we allowed Him to do the work through us.” ([14:48])

• On our daily confession:

  “We are authorized to get up and say, in the day, Christ is in me today.” ([21:35])

• On God’s desire to channel blessing:

  “God does not need just human ability added to His, because He intends to bring all the ability. But He does need our agreement.” ([22:00])

• On the widow’s obedience:

  “God didn’t find someone with their own provision to give a command to; He finds someone that needs a miracle…” ([25:36])

Important Timestamps

• 00:10 – 00:53: Receiving God’s power for healing
• 00:53 – 05:50: Renewing the mind, scriptural foundations
• 06:45 – 14:00: Kenneth Copeland’s testimony, acting in faith
• 16:45 – 19:45: Steps to agreement and obedience, “In Christ” consciousness
• 19:45 – 22:00: Jesus’ confession, letting God manifest through us
• 23:15 – 25:36: Elijah and the widow, channels for God’s supply
• 26:00 – 26:50: Everyday miracle living, practical encouragement

Conclusion

Nancy Dufresne powerfully motivates believers to live daily reminded of Who is in them. “In Christ, I have it. In Christ, I can do it,” becomes not just a confession but a call to continual belief and obedient action. God’s provision is never limited to our resources; instead, He seeks our agreement and faith steps, performing His miraculous work in and through us. Listeners are encouraged to feed continually on the Word, keep their minds renewed, and act in faith—becoming skillful channels for God’s life, provision, and power.

Recommended Next Steps:

• Listen to past episodes for further revelation and meditative practice
• Cultivate a daily confession of what you have and can do “in Christ”
• Act on faith instructions, trusting God to supply and move through you