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There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you. You may be in a sick room, you may be in a hospital room. And I want to remind you, power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what's not. Try to get something, but notice that he's already made it yours. It's present right where you're at. Say, I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now. I receive it right now from the top of my head. From the top of my head. The soles of my feet. The soles of my feet. Welcome. We're so glad you're with us today for Jesus the Healer. And we have been enjoying the series that we're on. We're teaching on in Christ. And really we're just sharing things that come up out of my spirit. As the spirit of God leads. I so love that the Holy Ghost, he's prescribing answers for people's lives. And I love something that Dr. Lester Sumrall stated years ago. He was an apostle to the world. And one of the things he said is he was talking to us ministers and he said, when you need revelation on something, start teaching on it.
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Because it's like that magician's handkerchief that's right up the sleeve. You start pulling out the part you know and the part that you see and more is connected to that that you don't see and you'll just keep speaking it. So we're just thankful for this setting to where we can just turn on the cameras and just start speaking out of our hearts. And the Holy Ghost is giving us words that's prescriptions for your life, that's based on what the word of God says. And so we have enjoyed this time with you. We invite you go back and watch any previous episodes that you may have missed in this series of teach on who we are in Christ. And we've gotten well over 60 episodes going so far. But it's just, it's really. We could never reach the end of what this topic holds for us. And if I could say this to you, as we develop, as we renew our minds and we establish in our own spirits who we are in Christ and what he's made ours and what we can do because we're in Christ, it brings us into the highest order of faith that when someone is struggling with their faith, it's because they're invited to know more of who they are in Christ. When you know who you are in Christ and you have established those truths in your Spirit, that's the end of struggle in your life. And so we're just grateful that we can take this time and share it with you, because we're just following what the Holy Ghost would have us to say along this line. We were looking in a previous episode, Acts chapter 17 and verse 28 and it says this. For in him we live, and in him we move. And in him we have our being. Notice this. He left Himself out of none of this. That in our living it's about him. In our movement it's about Him. And in the welfare of our total being, it's about Him. And he offers Himself for every flow of our life. Why would we ever want to tap into a lesser flow of self, of just our own ability, when we have the divine Godhead on the inside of us to draw on and allow him to manifest through us? That's what belongs to us in Christ. All God is all he has made Himself to be. All he has made Christ to be in us and through us. And for us all the all the divine ability of God is available to us. The strength of God. Why would we ever just draw limitedly on that? And so notice here in Acts 17, in him we live our daily life is to be a draw on Him. In him we move. What's that mean? Let's draw on his guidance. Let's not make a move unless we've consulted with the One in us who is wanting to lead us into every success in life. Can I say this to you? Is God has never failed at anything he has done. What is that? He is total success. He has produced nothing but success. Now people have failed him, but he's never failed at anything he's done. Now think of this. That God is the One who put Adam in the garden because that was the best place for Adam to be. And in that garden, Adam did the wrong thing and God had to remove him from the place he put him. Was that God failing? No, that was Adam failing.
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Because God has never failed at anything. He's been total success at everything he's done. And notice this, that success lives in you.
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Because he lives in you. So we can live this life and have a life of success as we allow him to be in us and through us, who he longs to be for us. Amen. And so we're just talking about some of these things because as we discussed in the Previous Episode God is not only interested in our spiritual well being, he's interested in every part of our being, every feature of our being in this life. Again, Acts 17, verse 28 for in him we live and move and what have our being. We are a spirit being, we have a soul, we live in a body. We are conducting life involving a financial flow. God's interested in everything that is connected to our being. And religion will teach you and tell you that God's only interested in what's spiritual. That's not a true representation of the Father. Because it says here that in him we have our anything connected with us. God is interested in. He's interested, yes, in your spiritual life, but he's interested in your mental health. He's interested that you have peace in your mind. He's interested that you have the highest way of thinking. So he offers his thoughts to us through His Word. But he's also interested that we live in wholeness. You know, Jesus walked up to the man who was at the pool of Bethesda and He asked Him a question. You'll remember there was an angel that would come down random seasons and would deposit healing power in the pool of Bethesda and the water would be stirred. But this man Jesus walked up to, he was a cripple. And Jesus walked up to him and listen to what he asked him. He said, wilt thou be made whole? He's asking him. He's offering him wholeness.
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Because Jesus is interested in our physical well being. Don't you ever think he's not interested in the health and the condition of your body. He's the one that gave you your body. And he did not separate himself from the interest and the well being of your body. He is invested with everything of himself. By laying those stripes on Jesus back for our wholeness, God was investing himself in our physical well being. And God doesn't just want us to feel better, he wants us to be whole.
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Because in him we are to have every part of our being, every feature of our being affected by his flow on the inside of us. Amen. And so I want you to see this, that there's nothing of your life that God's not interested in. Yet religion will compartmentalize it and say, well, God's only interested in your spiritual life. That's not true. As a parent, you're interested in the spiritual life of your children, but you're not only interested in their spiritual life. Doesn't it matter to you that they have the clothing they need, the food they need, the enjoyment they need. What about if, if a grown children, you want them to have the homes that they need, the jobs they need, the businesses they need, the equipment that they need. Well, I know this. No human is a better parent than God. We're not more interested in our children's well being than God is in his children's well being. If it's connected to you, it matters to God. He has chosen that to be his demonstration of love in our life. Amen. I want to read to you a scriptures because many times can I tell you where a lot of people struggle is. They struggle with and certainly the devil will energize this kind of thinking that they are not as loved by God as somebody else. Because the devil will point to somebody's faults, failures, weaknesses, poor decisions of the past and will paint in someone's understanding that God is mad at them, God's disappointed in them, God doesn't value them the same. But we always have to go back to the Word. We don't go to emotions, we don't go to feelings. We don't go to how religion has taught. We don't go to how even our own wrong thinking would instruct us. We always go to the Word and we find out God's character, God's way of thinking, God's way of being, God's way of operating. I want to read to you out of John chapter 15. 9 John chapter 15 in verse 9. And this is Jesus speaking. This is what he said. He said, as the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Continue in my love. Look at this. What? Continue in my love. Do you know that that means don't forget that he loves you. Don't forget that his love is in you. Don't forget that everything he did for us was based on his love for us and God's love for us. I want to read to you just a few different translations of what they say of this same verse. One translation says this, I have loved you just as my Father has loved you, so let me love you always. Look at that. Let me love you always. When we speak things that are not in line with this, we're not letting him be to us who he wants to be to us. So he says, let me love you always. Another translation says, in the same way that the Father loved me, I loved you. Now listen to this now live in my love. What's he talking about? Live mindful that I love you. Live with that understanding foremost in your thought life and in the way you conduct living if we miss it, God doesn't quit loving us. God doesn't draw back from us. God never draws back from us. But what will happen sometimes when we miss it, we'll get under a sense of condemnation, which the devil is there to energize. And. And what's he hoping that we'll draw back from God? Because God will respond to us based on how we respond to Him. Notice this. The Bible says draw. God was speaking. He said, draw nine to me, I'll draw nine to you. So he's saying, the way you respond to me is the way you're allowing me to respond to you. Meaning God doesn't want to withhold from us. God's not a withholder. But if we don't respond to him, he cannot be to us what he wants to be. So I love this. When Jesus said, live in my love, so he's saying, live mindful that I love you. I've seen this about, if I could say this, what we would call the generals in faith. Those who had a raw, robust faith. One of the things that they focus on, and you'll hear in their speech, you'll hear in their sermons, how much God loves them. They focus on that.
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Is it because the devil is always trying to build a sense of accusation, a sense of condemnation. But when you're mindful. Wait a minute. Even though I missed it, God loves me. Even though I've made decisions in the past that I shouldn't have made, that does not alter God's love for me. When you understand God's love for you, you don't draw back from him. You don't. If I could say this, hide from him. You don't separate yourself from him. Notice when Adam and Eve disobeyed God and they sinned, what was their first response to that sin nature that was in them? Now they went and hid from God that when he came to fellowship with them, what was it? What does it say they were doing? They were hiding from Him. That's what condemnation, that's what sin nature does. It will give people this response of drawing back from God as though he's the one to be feared. God is not the one to be feared because he's the one that loves you more than anyone ever loves you. And that's why it's so important that we build in ourselves what God, what Jesus said in this passage, live in my love. Or we could say this, live mindful that I love you. Another translation says this. I have loved you just as deeply as the Father has loved me, so hold on to my love. Notice this. It's not that he's gonna withdraw his love, but the devil's going to try to draw you into a mind that, because you missed it, God doesn't love you. But notice what Jesus said in this passage. Hold on to my love, meaning this. Hold that foremost in your thought life. Hold that in your way of speaking. When you study history, church history, it's recorded, and I certainly don't have the notes in front of me that would even discuss the details of it now. But. But the 12 disciples that were personally trained by Jesus, 11 of them died as martyrs. They had all kinds of endings. But there's one disciple they could not kill. They tried John. They. At one point, he was put in a pot of boiling oil. It didn't kill him. They were so stunned that this didn't kill him that they sent him to an island to be isolated, to be separated. But why is it that there was something about John that they tried to martyr him and could not? Well, if you ever read the Gospel of John, one of the things that you find is that John referred to himself as the disciple whom Jesus loved. John thought of himself, jesus loves me. And he constantly refers to himself as the disciple. Jesus loved not to say he didn't love the other disciples. But John kept that foremost in his thinking, foremost in his way of operating and living day by day. So every time they tried to martyr him, he would no doubt say, they can't martyr the one God loves. And so he would not let go of his victory because love would put him on the other side of it. If I could say this, whenever condemnation comes, say, you can't condemn the one God loves. There is no condemnation over my life because God loves me. You have to answer the devil, because the love of Christ belongs to you because you're in Christ. God loves you because you belong to him. You're a child, and you have to focus on that. And just know this, that when tests and trials come, let's say symptoms come, disease comes, or sickness tries to come, and says, you can't stay on love. You can't stay on the one God loves. You've got to leave my body because God loves me too much, that this sickness cannot live where God's love lives. And I tell you, you have to. But you have to build and establish in your own understanding, in your thinking, in your conversation, in your spiritual life, and in your daily life, God loves me. And it's not an earned love. It is based On God's own goodness, not based on your goodness. Now, God can't help but love you because he is love. There's nothing but love that can come from him because his entire being is love. Think of this. My children, your children, did not have to do anything to earn your love when they were born. You know, before a baby is even born, we fall in love with that baby that's still in the womb. The baby we haven't even seen yet with our own physical eyes. When that baby is born, we walk around holding that baby, rocking that baby. I mean, we let that baby keep us up all night because we love that baby. And that baby hasn't done anything to. To contribute to the family. They haven't earned anything, they haven't bought the parent anything yet. They haven't done, they haven't performed anything that would purchase your love. You just love them for no earned reason. I want you to know, if we can love, being humans that way, how much the divine love of God in our direction. It's not an earned reason love. Since it's not an earned love, you can't unearn it. You can't do enough bad stuff for God not to love you. Because this love has nothing to do with what you've done right or what you've done wrong. It's based on him and it's not based on you. His. His love for you is based on him, not based on you. And God loves you because he can't help but be loved. Because his entire being is that of love. So we have to learn to put in our mouth when the devil, the accuser, the brethren comes, when the devil tries to point to our past, point to our faults, point to our failures, point to our weakness and try to get us to turn in upon ourselves, try to get us to live sin conscious, aware of where we missed it, aware of our faults and failures. We need to learn to say this. I hold onto the love of God that He has for me. He loves me. And this mistake of the past, this sin of the past, anything I've done can never unearn God's love. Because God can't help but love me. Because he doesn't retract anything he's already given me. It tells us that in John 3:16, God so loved the world that he gave. I tell you, God's already given his love and he's never taken it back. And Jesus was the love gift that God gave the world. And God has never taken that love gift back. We need to learn to quit being self loathing, self deprecating, self devaluing, diminishing self. Because how dare we treat someone that God loves like that? And we're the ones God loves. We have to build that in us.
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Because the flow of this world, this world system that came out, the God of this world, who is Satan. It's not a flow that's going to reinforce God's love for you. You have to know God's love for you. Not based on feeling, not based on performance, not based on anything you've earned, but based on what the Word says. I want to read it to you again. In this passage, Jesus made the statement, I have loved you just as deeply as the Father has loved me. Hold on to my love. What's that mean? We're not having to get him to hold on to loving us, but we're to hold on to the truth that he loves us.
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Because there are going to come things against us that's going to try to sway us into wrong thinking. And wrong thinking is. Well, I missed it. God doesn't love me. No, he still loves you. Hold on to that knowledge. Hold on to that truth. Hold on to that reality. And it's no mistake that because John constantly referred to himself as the one Jesus loves, the disciple Jesus loves that when they tried to kill him, they couldn't because he was not focused on what they were doing. He was focused on what God, God's love did for him. Well, if it worked for John, it'll work for us. Amen. And the thing that we see in the life of John, those theologians who study certain details, far more than I've ever studied them, they say that John was most likely one of the youngest of the disciples, that Jesus chose to travel with him and to be personally trained by him. But we see this at the communion that was received at the Last Supper. Remember, John took a posture, John took a position during that entire event. And it says he would lean upon the breast of Jesus. What was that proximity matter to him? He didn't get as far from the other end of the table, away from Jesus. He got as close as he could to Jesus. And he didn't only sit close, he leaned on him. Can I tell you how many times in a time of testing, in a time of opposition that I have with the eye of faith, with taking that very passage of Scripture, and I would see myself leaning on Jesus, I mean personally, that I would just say, jesus, I lay every part of myself on you. I just. I rest on you. I recline on you.
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Because it gave me another place and a higher flow to focus on rather than the opposition. So I would make his presence, acknowledging him the forefront of my attention so that what was opposing me did not get my attention. I want you to know you can train yourself, renew your mind to the truth that God loves me. And I'm resting on that. In the face of every test and every trial, the love of God has not left me, but the love of God is there to ensure that victory will always be mine. And it's important that we build these truths on the inside of us. Amen. I want to read another passage to you. Acts we've said this. I want to read some different Translations of Acts 17, verse 28. For in him we live and move and have our being. Listen to this. Another translation said, it is through him that we live and function and have our identity. Look at this. That our identity comes from not what we've done, right or wrong, but from who lives on the inside of us, who indwells us. He's our identity. Listen to this translation of Acts 17:28. It says, because we live in the presence of this God, every move we make is known to him, and we are dependent upon him for our very being. My, my, my, what is that oneness? In him we live, in him we move, and in him we have our being. I want to read another passage to you. Romans 8 in verse 37 says this. It says, nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors. Look at this. Through him that loved us so he's talking about our victories. Come out of the love God has for us. Jesus took our place in defeat so we could have his place in victory. It was love that did that for us. Everything God has done for us and provided for us through Christ, it was based on love. Period. Not earned love, not deserved love, but on God's goodness to show his love. Let me read another translation to you. Out of Romans 8, 37. It says, Suffering any one of these things is not proof that Christ does not love you. Ah, look at that. Paul had listed all the things that had come against him. And I like this translation. He said, suffering any one of these things is not proof that Christ does not love us. How many times the devil will say, well, you know you've done something wrong, you've done, you deserve this that's happened to you. No. Suffering any opposition is not proof that Christ does not love us. For in spite of all these things that oppose us, we have a decisive victory over life's. Difficulties through the care shown us by Christ who loved us. Oh my goodness, that's loaded. What is that? We need to quit majoring on focusing on where we missed it, focusing on condemnation regarding the past, shame regarding the past, and all that stuff that the blood cleansed away, and instead we focus on the love of God that brought us into total victory. Amen. That's what belongs to us in Christ, the love of God. Amen. Well, we've been talking and teaching along this line this series for a while. We don't want you to miss upcoming episodes. And remember this until next time we see you Jesus is the Healer God bless you.
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Podcast: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
Episode: 828 | In Christ I Can, Part 68
Date: September 3, 2025
Host: Nancy Dufresne, Dufresne Ministries
This episode continues Nancy Dufresne’s in-depth teaching on the believer’s identity “In Christ,” focusing specifically on the pivotal role of God’s love and presence in granting us victory, wholeness, and confidence in life. Through scripture, personal insights, and practical encouragements, Nancy emphasizes how establishing our hearts in the reality of God’s unwavering love breaks cycles of condemnation and enables us to live as more than conquerors—spirit, soul, and body.
“When you understand God's love for you, you don't draw back from him. You don't...hide from him.”
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“In the face of every test and every trial, the love of God has not left me, but the love of God is there to ensure that victory will always be mine.”
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“Suffering any opposition is not proof that Christ does not love us. For in spite of all these things that oppose us, we have a decisive victory over life's difficulties through the care shown us by Christ who loved us.”
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Nancy Dufresne’s teaching in this episode powerfully reiterates the believer’s unshakable identity and victorious life in Christ, all firmly rooted in God’s unconditional love. Through scripture, practical examples, and encouragement to renew the mind, listeners are urged to let go of condemnation, keep God's love at the forefront, and draw daily from His power and presence.
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Nancy's parting reminder:
“We've been talking and teaching along this line…remember this until next time we see you: Jesus is the Healer. God bless you.” (27:20, B)