Podcast: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
Episode: 828 | In Christ I Can, Part 68
Date: September 3, 2025
Host: Nancy Dufresne, Dufresne Ministries
Overview of the Episode
This episode continues Nancy Dufresne’s in-depth teaching on the believer’s identity “In Christ,” focusing specifically on the pivotal role of God’s love and presence in granting us victory, wholeness, and confidence in life. Through scripture, personal insights, and practical encouragements, Nancy emphasizes how establishing our hearts in the reality of God’s unwavering love breaks cycles of condemnation and enables us to live as more than conquerors—spirit, soul, and body.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Power and Presence of God (00:10–01:29)
- Nancy opens with a declaration: God’s healing power is available everywhere, including hospital rooms, and it is already ours through Christ.
- She underscores: “Power is present. That power is there to do a work; believe in what's not. Try to get something, but notice that he's already made it yours.” (00:23, B)
- The key is to “receive” rather than strive.
2. Divine Revelation and the Teaching Process (01:29–03:00)
- Nancy cites Dr. Lester Sumrall: “When you need revelation on something, start teaching on it.” This brings hidden truths into greater light through the process of sharing what one knows.
- She describes her teaching as flowing with the Holy Spirit, delivering “prescriptions” for listeners’ lives.
3. Our Identity in Christ Dismantles Struggles (03:00–05:15)
- Nancy asserts that knowing who we are in Christ brings us into “the highest order of faith.”
- “When you know who you are in Christ and you have established those truths in your spirit, that's the end of struggle in your life.” (04:18, B)
- She explains Acts 17:28: “In Him we live and move and have our being.” This, she notes, means God is present and involved in every aspect of our existence.
4. God’s Interest in Every Area of Our Lives (05:15–08:01)
- God is interested in more than our spiritual welfare—including mental health, physical wholeness, and practical needs.
- “Religion will teach you…God's only interested in what's spiritual. That's not a true representation of the Father.” (06:11, B)
- Citing the healing at the pool of Bethesda (John 5), Nancy emphasizes that Jesus asked, “Wilt thou be made whole?” revealing God’s desire for our full well-being.
5. Living Mindful of God’s Love (08:01–14:00)
- Nancy addresses a common struggle: feeling unloved or less valued by God due to past failures. She insists feelings and religious teaching must be filtered through the truth of God’s Word.
- Central scripture: John 15:9. Nancy reads multiple translations:
- “I have loved you just as my Father has loved you, so let me love you always.”
- “In the same way the Father loved me, I loved you. Now live in my love.”
- “When we speak things that are not in line with this, we're not letting him be to us who he wants to be to us. So he says, let me love you always.” (09:51, B)
- She advises listeners: “Live mindful that I love you…foremost in your thought life and in the way you conduct living.”
Notable Quote
“When you understand God's love for you, you don't draw back from him. You don't...hide from him.”
(13:10, B)
6. Case Study: John, “the Disciple Jesus Loved” (14:00–16:00)
- Nancy notes that John, the apostle, uniquely referred to himself as “the disciple whom Jesus loved.” Despite attempts to martyr him, John survived, which Nancy attributes to his deep consciousness of God’s love.
- “Every time they tried to martyr him, he would no doubt say, they can't martyr the one God loves.” (15:53, B)
- She applies this for believers: “Whenever condemnation comes, say, you can't condemn the one God loves.”
7. Rejecting Condemnation and Building Confidence (16:00–20:31)
- Condemnation and shame are tools of the devil, aiming to make believers withdraw from God.
- God’s love is not earned, and thus cannot be “un-earned.”
- “You can't do enough bad stuff for God not to love you.” (18:29, B)
- “His love for you is based on him, not based on you.” (19:12, B)
- Nancy uses the parent/child analogy to drive home the unconditionality of God’s love.
8. Maintaining Awareness of God’s Love (20:31–23:19)
- The world’s flow will not reinforce God’s love; believers must build this truth within themselves.
- Nancy revisits John’s practice of leaning on Jesus at the Last Supper as a posture of intimacy and reliance:
- “I would just say, Jesus, I lay every part of myself on you. I rest on you. I recline on you.” (23:19, B)
Notable Quote
“In the face of every test and every trial, the love of God has not left me, but the love of God is there to ensure that victory will always be mine.”
(23:28, B)
9. Our Identity and Victory are Rooted in Him (23:19–27:32)
- Nancy reads alternate translations of Acts 17:28:
- “It is through him that we live and function and have our identity.”
- “Because we live in the presence of this God, every move we make is known to him, and we are dependent upon him for our very being.”
- She emphasizes Romans 8:37:
- “Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.”
- A different translation clarifies: “Suffering any one of these things is not proof that Christ does not love you…”
Notable Quote
“Suffering any opposition is not proof that Christ does not love us. For in spite of all these things that oppose us, we have a decisive victory over life's difficulties through the care shown us by Christ who loved us.”
(26:22, B)
Memorable Moments & Quotes with Timestamps
- “Power is present…Say, I receive that power. I receive it right now.” (00:18, B)
- “When you know who you are in Christ...that's the end of struggle in your life.” (04:18, B)
- “God does not want to withhold from us. God's not a withholder. But if we don't respond to him, he cannot be to us what he wants to be.” (12:36, B)
- “You have to answer the devil, because the love of Christ belongs to you because you're in Christ.” (15:52, B)
- “It's not an earned love. It's based on God's own goodness, not based on your goodness.” (19:09, B)
- “We need to learn to quit being self-loathing...because how dare we treat someone that God loves like that? And we're the ones God loves.” (20:01, B)
- “Hold on to that knowledge. Hold on to that truth. Hold on to that reality.” (21:24, B)
- “We need to quit majoring on focusing on where we missed it...instead we focus on the love of God that brought us into total victory.” (26:27, B)
Timestamps for Major Segments
- 00:10 – Opening declaration of God’s present healing power.
- 01:29 – Teaching is a revelation process; speaking brings more revelation.
- 03:00-05:15 – Knowing your identity in Christ eliminates struggle.
- 05:15-08:01 – God cares for spirit, soul, body, finances, and practical needs.
- 08:01-14:00 – Living in constant awareness of God’s love; John 15:9 explored.
- 14:00-16:00 – John, the disciple Jesus loved; applying consciousness of God’s love.
- 16:00-20:31 – Dismantling shame and condemnation with the truth of unearned love.
- 20:31-23:19 – Countering the world’s flow; practical reliance on Christ’s love.
- 23:19-27:32 – Our identity and victory rooted in “in Him”; Romans 8:37 and enduring proof of love.
Conclusion
Nancy Dufresne’s teaching in this episode powerfully reiterates the believer’s unshakable identity and victorious life in Christ, all firmly rooted in God’s unconditional love. Through scripture, practical examples, and encouragement to renew the mind, listeners are urged to let go of condemnation, keep God's love at the forefront, and draw daily from His power and presence.
Key takeaways:
- God’s love is not earned and cannot be lost.
- Living “in Christ” means inviting His success, strength, and perspective into every area of life.
- When struggles come, the answer is not self-condemnation, but a deep, practiced awareness of being loved.
- Scriptural reminders (Acts 17:28, John 15:9, Romans 8:37) underpin this message.
Nancy's parting reminder:
“We've been talking and teaching along this line…remember this until next time we see you: Jesus is the Healer. God bless you.” (27:20, B)