Podcast Summary

Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast

Episode 830 | "In Christ I Can," Part 70
Date: September 5, 2025
Host: Nancy Dufresne (Dufresne Ministries)

Overview

In this episode of the ongoing "In Christ I Can" series, Nancy Dufresne explores the profound theme of living "together" with Christ, unpacking the biblical foundation for unity with Jesus in daily life, faith, healing, and overcoming opposition. Through scripture, personal testimonies, and practical applications, Nancy emphasizes the necessity of right thinking, honoring the Word, and maintaining fellowship with God as the source of victory and purpose.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Power & Presence of God in Every Situation (00:10)

• Nancy opens by affirming God's power is present everywhere, especially in moments of sickness or adversity.
• "There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one... It's present right where you're at. Say, 'I receive that power.'" (Nancy, 00:10)
• The focus is on receiving, not striving: healing and supply are already provided by God.

2. Honoring the Word & Receiving from Jesus (01:00)

• Referencing Norval Hayes:
  • "It's only the portions of the Word that you honor that you'll receive of." (Nancy quoting Norval Hayes, 01:11)
• The importance of valuing all God's promises—health, provision, redemption—since honoring them enables believers to partake of these blessings.

3. Identity in Christ: Highest Order of Faith (02:20)

• Knowing who you are in Christ and who Christ is in you brings stability and mastery over struggles.
  • "When we find out who we are in Christ... we come into the highest order of faith." (Nancy, 02:48)
• Wrong thinking is an open door for the enemy, but repeating and meditating on right beliefs dismantles these thoughts.

4. Living and Moving "Together" with Christ (06:00)

• Scripture References:

  • Acts 17:28: "For in him we live and move and have our being"—daily living, not just crisis moments.
  • 1 Cor. 3:9 (AMP): "We are fellow workmen... joint promoters... laborers together with God."
  • 2 Cor. 6:1 (AMP): "Laboring together as God's fellow workers..."

• Nancy stresses that God has the hard part; believers need only bring faith and obedience.

  • "It's not us doing all the work. It's not him doing all the work. It's him working through us." (Nancy, 09:10)

5. Biblical Theme of "Togetherness" (14:00)

• Multiple scriptures (Ephesians 2:5-6, 1 Thess. 5:10, 1 John 1:6) show that our new life, resurrection, fellowship, and daily walk are all described by the word "together."
• "We are not to ever try to conduct this life in Christ apart from who he made us to be. It's all about together." (Nancy, 15:30)

6. Fellowship Precedes Fruitfulness (16:30)

• Nancy discusses Jesus’ own pattern: He only said and did what the Father revealed in fellowship.
  • "Our togetherness is number one for fellowship and number two to produce the fruit of our togetherness with him." (Nancy, 18:01)
• Emphasis: Results in life and ministry come from thriving fellowship with God first.

7. Testimony: Oppression and Victory through Fellowship (19:00)

• Nancy recounts a young man’s struggle with sudden depression before turning 30—a season Nancy notes as biblically significant (age 30: time of transition, as with Jesus).

• Principle: Feelings of depression or oppression are not your own; they're attempts of the enemy.

  • "If it didn't come from Christ, it's not the real you. And you don't have to accept it." (Nancy, 22:35)

• Quoting Psalm 23:5: Even in the presence of enemies (opposition), God's provision is still set before us.

8. Practical Tools: “Shut Up and Show Up” (24:20)

• God instructs the young man: "Shut up and show up”—i.e., don’t talk about your negative feelings (which keeps the door open to the enemy), but also don’t stop functioning in life.
• "Don't quit making movement. Live life as usual. Do not interrupt the plan of God to stop for opposition." (Nancy, 24:58)
• Kathryn Kuhlman quote: "This train is moving too fast for me to stop and throw rocks at barking dogs."
  • Encouragement: Keep moving and don’t get preoccupied by the enemy’s distractions.

9. Walking in Authority and Persistent Freedom (26:00)

• Referencing treading (Luke 10:19): "Step over and keep going." Don't stop and give attention to opposition.

• God’s reassurance: "Just because you can still see the Egyptians doesn't mean you're back in Egypt."

  • Old attacks returning don’t mean you’re no longer free—hold on to truth, not feelings or appearances.

• "Never believe anything more than you believe what God says. Don't believe a test. Don't believe opposition more than you believe what God says." (Nancy, 27:00)

10. Living Every Day “Together” with Christ (27:18)

• God’s instruction: "Let's do this together." (personal word to the man)
• Every believer is “raised and seated” together with Christ—daily fellowship and partnership is God’s design for victory and purpose.
• “You’re together with divine help. Amen.” (Nancy, 27:30)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Receiving: "Say, I receive that power. I receive it right now from the top of my head... to the soles of my feet." (00:20)
• On Right Thinking: "God can only flow through right thinking. God cannot work through wrong thinking." (04:30)
• On Spiritual Partnership: "It's not us doing all the work. It's not him doing all the work. It's him working through us." (09:10)
• On Oppression: "Just because you can sense depression, it's not yours. Just because you sense it, that means that that devil's trying to get you to call it yours. But it's his. You leave it with that devil." (21:45)
• Practical Wisdom: "Shut up and show up." (24:20)
• Kathryn Kuhlman’s Quote: "This train is moving too fast for me to stop and throw rocks at barking dogs." (25:20)
• On Refusing Defeat: "Just because you can still see the Egyptians doesn't mean you're back in Egypt." (26:40)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:10 — God's power is present in sickness and adversity
• 01:11 — The importance of honoring the Word (Norval Hayes quote)
• 06:00 — Living and moving "in Him"; partnership with God
• 14:00 — Scriptural emphasis on "togetherness"
• 16:30 — Fellowship with God is the root of fruitfulness
• 19:00 — Testimony of oppression before age 30; spiritual opposition explained
• 21:45 — How to respond to demonic feelings (not accepting them as your own)
• 24:20 — "Shut up and show up": practical response to opposition
• 25:20 — Kathryn Kuhlman’s wisdom on ignoring distractions
• 26:40 — "Seeing the Egyptians": not going backward after freedom
• 27:18 — God's invitation: "Let's do this together"

Conclusion

This episode provides deep, practical teaching on the vital theme of living constantly aware of and in communion with Christ. Nancy Dufresne encourages listeners to renew their minds with the truth of God's Word, resist wrong thinking, and live out of their partnership (“togetherness”) with Jesus in every area of life—regardless of feelings or opposition. Listeners are left with a charge to honor what God has said, partner with Him daily, and never receive as personal anything that doesn't come from Christ.