Podcast Summary: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast

Episode 833 | In Christ I Can, Part 73
Date: September 10, 2025
Host: Nancy Dufresne

Episode Overview

In this teaching, Nancy Dufresne continues her extensive "In Christ I Can" series, exploring what it truly means to be "in Christ." This episode zeroes in on how being in Christ transforms not just our blessings and benefits, but our entire approach to loving others, especially those who mistreat us. Nancy emphasizes the spiritual distinction between human and divine love, and explains Jesus' command to love our enemies as a call to “draw on the greater One within.” The message is practical, scripture-rich, and deeply pastoral, inviting listeners to examine and elevate their daily walk of love and faith.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Power and Responsibility of Being In Christ

• Nancy opens by reminding listeners that God’s power is present wherever they are, especially in moments of sickness or need.
  • “Power is present. That power is there to do a work. Believe that it’s not, try to get something, but notice that He’s already made it yours. It’s present right where you’re at. Say I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now.” (00:10)
• She reviews the scope of the “In Christ” series, pointing out that the blessings of Christ aren't just material (homes, jobs, health), but touch every part of life, especially relationships and responses to others.
• Nancy warns against only seeking the benefits of being in Christ (“better job, better health”) while ignoring the call to a higher way of living, specifically in how we respond to others (01:10).

Responding with Christlike Love—Not Flesh

• Nancy emphasizes that being in Christ demands a better way of responding to people, not just circumstances:
  • “In Christ, our treatment toward [others] must equal God’s and must not equal them. So we can’t just pick and choose the part of in Christ we want to walk in. All of it is what we’re to walk in.” (01:38)
• The highest order of faith, she says, is rooted in knowing who you are in Christ. This enables you to consistently overcome the enemy (02:30).
• Responding in the flesh or as “one outside of Christ” puts you on enemy (the devil’s) territory (03:15).
• “In Christ also means I’m going to respond and walk in love. I’m going to walk in patience with people. The fruits of the Spirit are going to be dominant in my life. And that puts a demand on us that we can’t just live the way we used to live, because now we’re in Christ.” (04:20)
• This call includes family life: “I can’t conduct my marriage the way I did before… now I’m in Christ.” (05:00)

The Fruits of the Spirit Are Divine Forces

• She reads Galatians 5:22, noting the “fruits” (love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, meekness, temperance) are not just feelings, but forces reflecting the very character and nature of God (05:48).
• “They are not just simply feelings. They are forces that are the exact character and nature of God.” (06:05)
• Christians are “no longer permitted to go back to [the] flesh to find your response.”
• Yielding to these fruits lifts believers above opposition.

Faith Only Works by Love

• Nancy outlines the spiritual principle: divine faith can only operate with divine love, not human love, and certainly not out of the flesh (07:30).
• “The faith of God that's on the inside of you requires that it be joined to divine love… Human love joined to divine faith will fail.” (09:10)
• Human love is conditional (“how you treat me is how I'm going to treat you”), but divine love is unconditional and steady, based on “Who's in me, not how you treat me.” (09:36)
• God does not endorse actions based on human love from believers—only actions flowing from His love within us.

Jesus’ Command: Love Your Enemies (Matthew 5:43-45)

• Nancy unpacks Jesus’ teaching in Matthew 5:43-45:
  • “You have heard… love thy neighbor and hate thine enemy… but I say unto you, love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you…” (13:00)
• This command isn’t just an ideal; it’s “evidence that you're his child” (14:20).
• Loving your enemies proves you are depending on divine love, not flesh.
  • “You see, I can’t. Yet in Christ, you’re in Him and He’s in you. And you can love your enemies. Why? Because divine love is in you.” (18:10)

How to Love Enemies: Three Actions

1. Bless Them That Curse You – Speak well of them
2. Do Good to Those Who Hate You – Show tangible acts of kindness
3. Pray For Those Who Use or Persecute You – Bring them into God’s presence and request His goodness for them (19:05)
   • “To love your enemy, you’re going to have to speak well, you’re going to have to do well, and you’re going to have to take them into the presence of God with you.” (19:40)

Why God Blesses the Unjust

• Nancy points out: God “makes the sun to rise on the evil and on the good… sends rain on the just and on the unjust”—because He’s good, not because people are good (21:35).

Practical Application: Drawing on Divine Love

• Believers must “pick the fruit” of God’s love within—choose to yield to it in word and deed (23:30).
• Sharing a story from Kenneth Hagin:
  • “When someone has been saying things against me… I treat them like they bragged on me. Ah, what’s that mean? He blessed them. He still talked good about them even though he knew they were talking bad about him.” (24:10)
• “To go around and tell how somebody has mistreated you, you’re outside this verse. You have now equaled them and you’ve gone down to human love.” (25:05)
• Nancy shares personally:
  • “Can I tell you what God would always have me do? I couldn’t equal them, but He would always give me something to obey…something good to do to them.” (24:30)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the necessity of divine love:
  “God no longer authorizes us to ever tap into human love anymore. That love has passed… We are new creatures in Christ, and new creatures in Christ have a new source of love to draw on. Divine love.” (09:40)
• Summing up the Christian response:
  “Divine love is, I’m not going—I don’t even care how you treat me. I’m going to treat you based on Who’s in me, not based on how you treat me.” (10:00)
• On forgiving our enemies:
  “We have to love people enough to say I don’t want their lives torn apart no matter what they might do to try to tear apart other people’s lives. I don’t want that for them because I used to be in their shoes.” (20:52)
• The way God brings people into His family:
  “He rained on you when you were unjust… While we were in those places, God kept raining. His goodness kept raining. His word kept raining words of life to us.” (21:55)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:10 – Power is present for healing
• 01:10 – Blessings in Christ: beyond material things
• 03:15 – Why responding outside of Christ is dangerous
• 05:48 – Fruits of the Spirit: God’s character in us
• 07:30 – Faith only works with divine love, not human love
• 09:36 – Difference between human love and divine love
• 13:00 – Jesus’ teaching on loving enemies
• 18:10 – “In Christ you can love your enemies”
• 19:05 – How to love your enemies: bless, do good, pray
• 21:35 – God’s goodness towards the just and unjust
• 24:10 – Kennth Hagin’s story: Responding with blessing
• 25:05 – Warning against airing grievances; the need to act from divine love

Conclusion

Nancy Dufresne’s message is clear and challenging: As Christians, what makes us “in Christ” is not only what we receive, but how we love—especially when it’s difficult. We are called to a love that far exceeds human ability, because it is sourced in God Himself. This divine love is evidenced not by feelings, but by blessing in word, doing good, and praying for those even who work against us. In Christ, you can—and must—live according to His love.

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