Podcast Summary: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast

Episode 836 | In Christ I Can, Part 76
Date: September 15, 2025
Host: Nancy Dufresne (Dufresne Ministries)

Overview

In this episode, Nancy Dufresne continues her extensive teaching series on "In Christ I Can," delving into what it means to live, act, and believe as someone united with Christ. She emphasizes the importance of knowing your identity, inheritance, and authority in Christ, highlighting that faith and renewal of the mind are essential for operating in the supernatural life God intends. Through stories and scriptural principles, Nancy discusses how believers can move from limited natural thinking to divine possibility, with practical insights on faith, obedience, and partnership with God.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Presence and Power of God is Always Available

• Nancy opens by assuring listeners that God's healing power is present wherever they are—including sick rooms and hospitals.
• “There’s enough power in every sick room… That power is there to do a work… It’s present right where you’re at. Say, ‘I receive that power. I receive it right now.’” (00:10)

2. The Centrality of the "In Christ" Message

• The heart of the New Covenant: Who we are, what we have, and what we can do because we are in Christ (01:02)
• Moving from a natural to a supernatural mindset starts by recognizing the divine nature deposited in our spirits (02:15).
• Importance of repetitive teaching: “Full faith does not come with one hearing. Faith comes by hearing and hearing.” (03:30)

3. The Testimony of Kenneth Copeland: A Skillful “In Christ” Answer

• Nancy recounts Copeland’s testimony where God instructed him to sow $50,000 while he was in debt (05:02).
• Copeland’s faith response: “In Christ I have it, and in Christ I can give it.” (06:44)
• Stepping out of the natural and into the realm of divine provision requires answering from your “in Christ” identity, not your lack or circumstances.

4. Renewing the Mind and Faith Agreements

• The devil tries to keep us thinking and acting “outside of Christ” (11:56).
• Mind renewal shifts us from impossibility to possibility by aligning our thoughts and words with God’s truth (13:20).
• “Faith is simply agreeing with what God said… All he’s asking for is for us to agree.” (15:29)

5. Partnership with God: Divine Role Division

• Jesus is our example: “My Father in me, He does the works.” (16:05)
• The Father is the performer, but we must exercise faith and act in obedience (16:54).
• “God is a perfect gentleman. He will never force his way into any flow of your life… It’s your faith that invites him.” (18:02)

6. Faith Requires Movement and Obedience

• “Faith is a movement… God has nothing to steer until it’s moving. You cannot steer a parked car, and God cannot steer parked faith.” (20:41)
• Giving God something to work with often starts small—like Copeland’s coins—but God fills actions with His power (22:13).

7. Practical Application: Steps of Faith

• Even if you’re told to start a business, first steps can be as simple as writing the vision—movement matters, not just magnitude (22:43).
• Obedience leads to miracles; God involves us in every miracle He performs.

8. Jesus’ Example at the Wedding in Cana

• Mary’s instruction: “Whatever he says to you, do it.” (24:19)
• The miracle of turning water into wine shows God gives us a doable part—our obedience, not the supernatural result (25:15).
• “In Him, we live, in Him we move, and in Him we have our being.” (Acts 17:28, 26:12)

9. No Risk in the Life of Faith

• As we obey, God meets our action with His power.
• “In Christ, we can do things we could never do apart from Christ. It is our great honor to live as one in Christ.” (26:42)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “When we hear what God has to say and then we act on what God says, it really becomes the end of struggle in our life.” – Nancy Dufresne (00:47)
• “When God speaks something to us, it’s not a suggestion, it’s a command.” (05:33)
• “Outside of Christ, he didn’t have it… In Christ is everything available to us that’s not available outside of Christ.” (08:07)
• “Faith talks about who you are in Christ. Doubt and unbelief talks about who you are outside of Christ.” (12:28)
• “God never tells us to do something that we can fulfill apart from Him.” (14:10)
• “You cannot steer a parked car, and God cannot steer parked faith. Faith is a movement.” (20:41)
• “When we do our part, God will always do His part.” (26:01)
• “In Christ, we can do things we could never do apart from Christ.” (26:42)

Important Segment Timestamps

• 00:10 – Power of God present for healing
• 01:02 – Introduction to “In Christ” series & main message
• 05:02 – Kenneth Copeland’s debt testimony
• 06:44 – “In Christ I have it, in Christ I can give it”
• 11:56 – Accuser’s work to shift focus “outside of Christ”
• 15:29 – Faith as agreeing with God
• 16:05 – Jesus: “My Father in me, He does the works”
• 18:02 – Faith as invitation; God a “perfect gentleman”
• 20:41 – Faith requires movement; parked car analogy
• 22:43 – Practical first steps of faith
• 24:19 – Mary at Cana: “Whatever he says to you, do it”
• 26:01 – Doing our part, God doing His
• 26:42 – In Christ, possibility and honor

Conclusion

Nancy Dufresne calls listeners to recognize who they are in Christ, live from their reborn spirit, and consistently renew their minds to align with God’s truth. Through real-life testimonies and scriptural examples, she illustrates that faith is both a mindset and a movement, always requiring agreement and action. Obedience, even in small steps, unlocks the possibility of God’s power in every situation.

Final Encouragement:
“Just know this, that when you’re following what God is telling you to do, there’s no risk in this life of faith. Because when we obey the Word… God will always meet our obedience with His power.” (26:30)

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