Podcast Summary: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne – Episode 841 | In Christ I Can, Part 81

Date: September 22, 2025
Host: Nancy Dufresne
Series: "In Christ I Can" (Part 81)
Podcast: Jesus the Healer Audio Podcast (Dufresne Ministries)

Episode Overview

This episode continues Nancy Dufresne’s extensive teaching series on the believer’s identity and inheritance "in Christ," emphasizing the New Covenant reality that everything Jesus paid for is now the believer’s present possession. Nancy urges listeners to shift from an Old Testament mindset of trying to "get God to do something" to a New Covenant approach of receiving by faith what’s already accomplished. She addresses practical faith for healing and provision, the renewal of the mind, and the spiritual intelligence required to access God’s wisdom in every situation.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Power and Presence of God—Receive, Don’t Strive

• Faith for Healing is About Receiving Power Already Present
  • “There’s enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one… I want to remind you, power is present.” (00:10, Nancy Dufresne)
  • Nancy invites listeners to actively receive the power of God, rather than hoping God will send it:
    • “Say, I receive that power. I receive it right now from the top of my head…the soles of my feet.” (00:41)

The Series: “In Christ” – Origin and Direction

• Nancy shares how this long-running series began as a God-directed shift and emphasizes the living nature of this teaching:
  • “...Just as about two days before filming began for this, this series, God said, I want you to teach on In Christ. I said, great, but I got no notes on it…And it has become 80 episodes. Why? Because we’re just speaking by utterance that just comes out.” (00:52–02:00)
• Ongoing revelation is possible because everything Jesus purchased is multi-dimensional and inexhaustible.

Difference Between Old Covenant and New Covenant Approaches

• Old Covenant: Believers tried to get God to do something for them.
• New Covenant: "All has been done in Christ for us."
  • “Now it’s not about trying to get God to do something. It’s about us receiving what He's already done in Christ.” (02:29)
• Key Mindset Shift: If you believe you must get God to move, "it shows that we don't yet know what has already been done for us." (03:02)

Real-Life Application: Praying for the Sick

• Nancy describes counseling a family whose loved one was in a life-and-death situation.
  • She discerns the desperation in their praying—trying to get God to intervene.
  • “I said, if you do that, your loved one will die. Because that's not a bad confession. That's just not knowing how to cooperate with God.” (05:30)
• Guidance:
  • “Go approach this differently…Don’t go in there trying to get Him [God]…You don’t have to coerce God into being good. He is good.” (06:45)
  • "Faith is not believing God can do something. Faith is believing God has done it, and he does it for me now." (08:23)

The Role of Renewed Thinking in Receiving

• “The God kind of faith doesn’t work without the God kind of thinking.” (10:55)
• “A renewed mind thinks like God…God's faith requires God's way of thinking. And the God's way of thinking for us as new covenant believers is everything already belongs to us in Christ.” (11:10)

Bible Exposition: Colossians 2:3 (Amplified Classic)

• “In Him all the treasures of divine wisdom…all the riches of spiritual knowledge and enlightenment are stored up in Christ and lie hidden.” (12:20)
• All divine supply is in Christ—and the believer is in Christ.
  • “That dismisses us from going to God and trying to get him to do something for us. Because He's already done for us in Christ everything He wanted for us.” (13:40)
  • "God did in Christ everything He wanted for us: healing, health, provision, wisdom, freedom, victory." (14:00)

Wisdom & Discovery: Our Active Pursuit

• Referencing Proverbs 4:22:
  • “His words are life unto those that find them...You have to be interested enough to lay hold of, discover what's yours in Christ.” (17:40)
  • “We don't want to live the way we used to live. None of us got saved so that we could live the way we were living right now…” (19:55)
• “You don't have to earn what God has made theirs in Christ. And that's not true. We're not earning it. But we do have to put forth diligence to partake of what he already made ours.” (20:45)

Receiving by Faith: Practical Instructions

• “Faith is the hand that dips into the treasury of in Christ and draws it out...” (22:18)
• “Where is that treasury? In you. It’s in you. Isn’t that something? In you lies all the wealth of heaven…because Christ is in you the hope of glory.” (22:30)

Distinction Between Healing Provided vs. Mind Renewal Needed

• Expounding 3 John 2:

  • “Beloved, I wish above all things thou mayest prosper and be in health even as thy soul prospers.” (24:05)
  • “We will enjoy prosperity from God…to the measure that we think like God...So if what God provided for us is not flowing, it's a lack of us thinking right.” (25:00)

• Terminology across Scripture:

  • Paul calls it "renewing of your mind" (Romans 12:2)
  • John calls it "prospering of the soul" (3 John 2)
  • David calls it "restoring of the soul" (Psalm 23)
  • James calls it "saving of the soul" (James 1:21)

• All refer to re-aligning our mind, will, and emotions with God’s truth.

Method for Renewing the Mind

• “You have to meditate on it. Think it to yourself. Say it when you're driving…At the free moments of life. Let the word move around on the inside of you. Speak it. Say it to yourself. Why? Because then you come into thinking like God. And when you think like God, you start dipping into the treasure of Christ that is on the inside of you and you start living rich instead of struggling.” (26:20)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On faith and receiving:
  • “Faith is believing. God not only can do, he does it for me now.” (08:23)
• On God’s intent:
  • “He already stocked our lives with everything we need. Now it's up to us to understand that, employ that, and by faith, activate what he's already stocked our lives with.” (07:49)
• On effortless supply:
  • “You're carrying around the mentality and the thinking like a man who's not saved...You need to take on God's way of thinking. And he calls that the saving of the soul.” (25:37)
• On the believer’s responsibility:
  • “Even though we can teach it to you, we cannot partake of it for you. It's up to us to partake of it for our own lives. And we have to be interested in it enough to partake.” (22:55)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• [00:10] – Opening call to receive healing power
• [00:52 – 02:00] – Introduction to “In Christ” series and how it started
• [02:29] – Contrast between Old and New Covenants
• [05:15–09:00] – Story: Praying for a loved one in crisis & practical application
• [12:20] – Bible teaching: Colossians 2:3, treasures in Christ
• [17:40] – Proverbs 4:22 & the importance of searching out what belongs to us
• [20:45] – On not earning, but partaking—in Christ
• [22:18] – "Faith is the hand that dips into the treasury"
• [24:05–26:50] – Scriptural perspectives on renewing the mind / saving the soul
• [26:20] – How to renew the mind by meditating and speaking the Word

Final Thoughts

Nancy Dufresne’s teaching in this episode is a passionate, scripturally grounded call to “live rich” in the reality of what Christ has provided. The core message: stop striving for what God has already given—renew your mind, learn to receive, and walk in the fullness of Christ’s provision, especially in times of need.

Ending affirmation:
“You don’t want to miss next time because we’re going to go further with this. And until next time, remember this: Jesus is the Healer. God bless you.” (26:50)