← Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
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Thank you to Kenneth Copeland Ministries for sowing the airtime for this broadcast.
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There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you. You may be in a sick room, you may be in a hospital room. And I want to remind you, power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what's not. Try to get something, but notice that he's already made it yours. It's present right where you're at. Say, I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now. I receive it right now from the top of my head. From the top of my head. The soles of my feet. The soles of my feet. Welcome. We're so glad you're joining us today for Jesus the Healer. And we are going to spend time around the Word, which is one of the greatest joys that we get to participate in. And thank you for joining me because it is my great joy to come and spend this time with you. And listen, we're in the middle of a series we've been on. You know, I think this is like starting the 86th episode in this series. And I don't see the end in sight. I can't find the end in sight. And so we're going to just. We're just going to go with what the Spirit of God keeps feeding us. Because I just so believe that the Holy Spirit is prescribing exactly what we need to advance and to move further with God. And we've been teaching on this topic in Christ. I can, and I want you to know this is loaded with what belongs to us in Christ. We were saying on a previous episode that in the Old Testament, the Old Covenant was the emphasis of this. The saints of God were trying to get God to do something for them. Now under the New Covenant. That's not the emphasis of the New Covenant. The New Covenant is that it is all done in Christ. And it's up to us to receive and partake of what God has already done for us through Christ. Because God put into Christ everything he wanted us to enjoy. And so it's about us learning what's ours in Christ, participating in that, partaking of it, and if I could say this, yielding to him that's on the inside of us. So in Christ is everything we need to live the life that God authored for us. The beginning place of this series started with really a testimony that Brother Kenneth Copeland gave. And I remember sitting in the service and him giving this testimony. And you Know how you're just. You're hearing a sermon many times, or you're reading a book, or you're in a. In a service or listening to a sermon on maybe your device, and all of a sudden the light goes on. That's what happened. When I heard Brother Copeland tell this testimony, and he talked about in the early 1970s, that he was learning the truths of prosperity, that him and Sister Gloria, they were in debt at the time, but they were using their faith to receive the turnaround on that. And in the early 1970s, God spoke to him and said, I want you to sow $50,000 into the ministry of Kenneth Hagin. Now, when God gave him that command, God did not intend for brother Copeland to fulfill that except through him, meaning employing the ability of God, the provision of God. So the skill that Brother Copeland showed when he answered that command that God gave him was this. Brother Copeland didn't look at his personal resources and say, well, I can't do that. What brother Copeland did was he went first to who he was in Christ. And that's where he found his answer. And brother Copeland answered God by saying this. In Christ, I have it, and in Christ I can give it the skill of that. He didn't go to the mental arena and struggle with. With what the natural realm showed him. He went to the spirit arena. And he remembered that in Christ is everything he needs to fulfill anything God commands of us. And so I so appreciate the skill of that answer. And in a moment I saw this. In Christ is everything we need. Outside of Christ is struggle. Outside of Christ is lack. Outside of Christ is difficulty. Outside of Christ is crisis and tragedy and heartbreak and depression and a strugg. But in Christ is everything that belongs to us in Christ, including this. The fruits of the spirit. Love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, meekness, temperance. These flows of God are all in Christ. But not only that, what about this righteousness sanctification set apart for God? And I saw this, not just righteousness, which, my goodness, it's. We're not righteous because we've done everything right. We're righteous because Jesus did everything right and then credit it to us as though we were the ones who did it right. But not only is that righteousness ours in Christ, you know what else is ours in Christ? No pain, no sickness, no disease, nothing lacking complete provision. And so brother Copeland answered that command that God gave him by saying and going first to who he was in Christ. He didn't go first to his own natural resources, but he went first to his heavenly supply. And so this is the skill that we want to develop as believers. And I made this challenge to us on a previous episode last week. And this is what I said. Let's give ourselves the spiritual habit of starting every response to God, or every response to a need, every response to a opposition or a difficult situation by starting it with In Christ, I have this. In Christ, I'm already whole in Christ, my bills are paid. In Christ, I have the home that I desire. In Christ, everything I need is already supplied. So let's just give ourselves this spiritual habit of starting our answers with In Christ, I have that. And then you don't struggle and go to that mental arena and try to figure out how you gonna get it. You don't have to get it when it's already in Christ. If you will just employ who you are in Christ. Drawing on that, yielding to that. Because God gave a plan. He authored a plan for every single person on this earth. But we have to understand this. God authored a plan and then he offered Himself and gave Himself to fill that plan with his ability, with his provision, his strength. God never gave us a plan and said, now go fulfill it. He says this, I'll fill you with myself so that I can fulfill that plan through you. You have to remember this. The plan of God that He authored for your life cannot be fulfilled apart from Him. He intends to fulfill that plan for through you, not you doing it on your own. And I want you to know this. We've been raised and seated together with Christ. Why? So that we don't do anything apart from Him. Everything is with Him. When you're facing a difficulty, when you're facing opposition, when you're facing struggle, you need to remember this. I'm not facing this alone. I have the greater one on the inside of me. I face this as one in Christ. And know this. Acts, chapter 17, verse 28. It records this. In him we live, in him we move, and in him we have our being. So what does that mean for us? God never intended for us to take a step apart from Him. He intended that his strength, his ability fill every movement we make. Because he didn't leave Himself out of anything of our life. And so we're not to leave him out of anything of our life. So we need to be in Christ minded instead of in Me minded. What I can do, what I can afford, what I can pay for, no God offers Himself because he filled us with Himself. And so we are to make that adjustment. Now we know this. Whenever we look at the events when God delivered the Hebrews out of Egypt. Notice he, how did they exit Egypt? They exited. Not one feeble one was among them. They exited it completely whole. Not only that, God said, go command of your masters, the gold and the silver. And you say, well, why did they do that? It's called 400 Years of Back pay. We're paying out today. And that's exactly what they did. They walked out with the wealth of Egypt, they walked out with the health of God, and they were completely supplied. But what happened in the transition, the journey going toward the land that God had already given them, the breakdown in them not arriving at the land was this. They didn't think right. They walked out with the wealth of Egypt, they walked out with divine health in their body, but they never changed their thinking. We don't want to fall into that trap because. Because they didn't change their thinking. That first generation never arrived at what God offered. I don't want any of us to have the wealth of heaven, the wealth that's in Christ in us, available to us and us, not think right and not draw on it. Because if we don't draw on who we are in Christ, we'll never arrive at the fulfillment of God's plan. Why is that? The plan of God for our lives is so great. It requires his involvement, it requires his movement, it requires his provision. It does not just require what we possess. It requires what he has made us possessors of. And so we need to realize this. It's not enough that we possess Him. We also have to partake of that which he has made ours in Him. And so this is so important for us to change our thinking, bring our thinking into line with not thinking of our life in terms of past seasons of our life, but thinking of who we are in Christ. And this is the skill that Brother Copeland's answer showed so clearly that he went when he went to answer that command of God, he did not go to himself to find the answer. He went to who he was in Christ and answered based on who he was in Christ and who Christ was in Him. And the skill of this answer, in Christ I have it, and in Christ I can give it. Can I tell you this? When symptoms try to show up in your body, you're authorized to say, in Christ, I'm already whole. In Christ I have no pain. In Christ I have no disease, I have no sickness. So I'm going to talk about my health based on who I am in Christ and not based on what my body tells me because in Christ offers me more than my body could ever offer me. That's what faith does. Faith talks about who you are in Christ. Now, to be successful in this natural realm, you have to know who God made you to be in the spirit realm. That's where we're dominating this natural realm. What did God make us to be in the spirit realm? We're one with Him. We are in Christ. We rule and reign with Him. Meaning we have the exact same authority. And can I say this? God does not just. Just elevate or energize human ability. Let me explain it to you this way. The Word tells us that the joy of the Lord is our strength, Right? The joy of the Lord is our strength. The Word tells us that the Lord is the strength of our life. He does not just take our human strength and touch it. He gives us his strength. Now, see, that's the difference we have to realize in Christ, we're not using ours, we're using his. We're not spending ours, we're spending his. He doesn't just elevate human strength, human ability. In Christ, he gives us his own. And so that's what we're spending. We're not spending just natural ability, we're spending divine ability. Now know this. Jesus made this statement in Mark 11:22. We know this passage. Remember, prior to this passage, him and the disciples had come upon a fig tree, remember? And Jesus went to take figs of the tree. But when he got there, there were no figs on it. There were leaves on it, but there was no figs. So the leaves were advertising, we have fruit. But the fruit wasn't there. It looked like it should be producing and it was void of fruit. So Jesus spoke. He answered, that tree. And he said, no man eat fruit of thee hereafter. Now, the next day, they're passing by, and Peter draws the attention of Jesus back to that tree and says. He says, master, the tree that you cursed, it is withered up from the. It's withered from the root up. Trees don't die from the root up. They die from the top down. So it went. His words went to the root of that thing and addressed that. That tree. Now, Jesus took that. That incident to explain to the disciples how faith worked. And this is what he said in Mark 11:22. He said, have faith in God. Or the original says, have the faith of God. Now, if you're born again, you have the faith of God. Because Romans chapter 12 in verse 3 tells us that God has given us A measure of the faith of God. We have a measure of the faith of God. And that measure can be strengthened. That measure can be developed. But every single one of us were given a measure of the exact same faith of God. Look at this. God did not touch human faith and elevate it. He bypasses human faith. He gave us his own faith. That's what it means. In Christ. God is not taking something of ours naturally and elevating it. He does not even just take human love and bless it or elevate it. He gives us his own love. That's what the fruits of the Spirit are. They are the ability of God, the character of God. They are the forces of God. And he took of his own and put them in us, in Christ. We are carriers of Him. We are carriers of his faith, his love, his joy, his peace, his ability, his wisdom. It's all his. And we spend his. So when we say, in Christ, I can do this, we're saying I'm not depending on the low flow of human ability. I'm not depending on the flow, the low flow of human love or human natural faith. I'm tapping into the very forces of God. His faith, his love, his joy, his peace, his strength. All of. All that I'm living on is His. And so I'm not going to relegate my life to a lower human flow when I'm filled with the life of God, the nature of God. I am in Christ. Christ is in me, and I'm spending Him. And when I spend him, it elevates everything in my life. That's why I'm saying we have to give ourselves the spiritual habit of saying in. I have this in Christ, I'm strong. In Christ, I have his strength working. I'm drawing on his ability. I'm walking in his love. I'm spending his faith because it did not originate with us. It originates from God and comes to us through the agent, through the person of Jesus Christ. So in Christ, we have everything. I mean, people, we are loaded, loaded, loaded. And this is where Christians, we have cheated our own life. We have tapped into us and tried to fulfill what God authored for us when we cannot fulfill what God authored for us apart from Him. He gave us Himself. Look at this. He formed a plan. He authored a plan for the life of every man. And then he gave us Himself to fulfill it through us. We are simply, and I've said this before, we're simply the glove and his life, his ability, his movement fills the glove and gives the glove all of its Movement. And then he turns around and rewards the glove for allowing him to be the movement of that glove. It's such a deal, people. I mean, it is such a deal. And so just know this. That God does not expect you to fulfill anything in this life apart from him. He made himself yours. And he says, now, if you will draw on me, I'll do it through you. Now, this is what Paul wrote when he said, I can do all things. Look at this. He didn't say, I can do all things and stop. What would that be if he. If Paul would have said, I can do all things and put a period right there and stop? What is that? That's nothing but motivational help. And you can't live just on a motivational statement. He said, I can do all things through Christ. What's this mean? I'm employing Christ. The only reason I can do this is because I'm spending Christ. I'm not spending me, I'm spending him. He's my strength. He's my ability. He has graced me to be able to fulfill this. And we are co laborers with God. Now, look at this. You will have. Look at this. In a kitchen, you'll have a chef, but you'll also have a sous chef. I'm talking about in a restaurant. Not in my house. There ain't a chef or a sous chef in my house. But I'm talking about in a restaurant. You have a chef, and then you have a sous chef. The job of the sous chef is nothing but to assist the chef. God says that we are co laborers with God. So in that kitchen, in that restaurant kitchen, the chef takes the lead. And all the sous chef does is exactly what the chef tells him to do. And then that sous chef draws on the ability of the chef. When he says, I don't know how to do this, the chef walks over and says, this is how you do it. So he becomes elevated because he's now tapped into the. The. If I could say this, the skill set of the chef. This is what. When the word says we are co laborers with God, what's that mean? God's the laborer, and we are coming aside and we are co laboring. Do you know that? What God needs of us in this earth is our authority. God has given the authority of the earth to men. And so God needs our involvement. Because God will perform and do the work, but he needs our authority to invite him. Now, when, when God spoke to Brother Copeland and said, I want you to give Kenneth Hagin Ministries $50,000 brother Copeland answered this. He said, in Christ I have it, and in Christ I can give it. So what did he do? He gave God the authority to fulfill it through him. When he said that, that's why God speaks to us. He wants to use our authority to be a blessing in the earth through our authority when we agree, we just now turned our authority wide open to God's ability. And God fills that ability and he performs it through us. That's why he has to, if I could say this, get our permission to flow. Remember when the angel Gabriel appeared to Mary and said, basically said you are favor highly favored among women, tells her that she's going to have a child, tells her that this is the son of the most high God. Why did not. Since that was the plan of God, why didn't God just do it? Why didn't he just move on Mary? Because God will never violate your will and he will never take your authority from you. But he will absolutely invite you to co labor with him and he will feel your authority with himself and he will perform it. But you have to give him permission. And this is what the angel did. He came to get Mary's permission because God needs our authority to fulfill what he wants to work through us, but he needs our agreement. And so when Mary said, so be it done unto me according to thy word, then the angel left her that day. And God was able to fulfill through her his plan. Why? Because when she handed him her agreement, she handed him the authority to work through her. And God will never work through you without your agreement, without your opening the door to him. Because the devil will try to force and make people not God. God's honor will not let him violate any man's will. So great is God's honor that he will not move uninvited. This is why brother Copeland heard from God, I want you to sow $50,000. But Brother Copeland had to agree. Now listen, why did God say to brother Copeland, I want you to sow $50,000? Because he wanted to get $50,000 to him through him. He wanted to get him more than he had ever been handling before in the way of a gift he sowed. He was wanting to get him into another place of provision and a flow of abundance. But he had to get his agreement. And when brother Copeland, that skillful answer, in Christ I have it, and in Christ I can give it. He just gave the laborer permission to fulfill it through him. And brother Copeland did his part, he didn't just say, in Christ I have it. In Christ I can give it. And didn't take further action. No faith is an action that we take. So Brother Copeland just took the minimal action that he even had to. Had available to him to fulfill. And what was that? At the end of every day, if he would break a dollar bill, he take the coins from that dollar bill, and he would just put it in a box, what was it he was giving? Something that never subtracted from his life, Never, never subtracted from his family. It was just the little bits he had left over. And God, not only Brother Copeland filled that box, he'd send it in, and when it got full, he did that several times. And after a period of time, Brother Copeland called the Hagin ministry and said, I don't know how much I've given. How much have I given? And they said, you've given well over $50,000. But Brother Copeland said, there is no way that in coins, I gave over $50,000 in that amount of time. But what was it when he started an action and the action was. So, if I could say this, minimal. He just took coins, put them in a box, and sent those coins in. And when he gave that action and made that action, now he gave something God. He gave God something to fill up with himself. And so God made up the difference. What was that? He had to have Brother Copeland's agreement. Now, what did Brother Copeland would have said to God, I don't have that money to give. God was not asking for his resources to give. He was asking for his agreement so that God could fulfill it through him. And this is the skill of the renewed mind. This is the skill of knowing who you are in Christ. Because if, if you're struggling, you're answering God outside of Christ, but in Christ there's no struggle. When Brother Copeland said, in Christ I have it, and in Christ I can give it, there's no struggle to that. But if you're going to go to the mental arena and start calculating and you're going to start measuring, I don't have that money. It would take me so, so long to get that amount of money. God's not asking you to get the amount of money. He's asking you to agree so he can bring the resources through you. Why? Because he wants to use us in greater ways. And I want you to know everything God commands of your life, everything God tells you to do can only be fulfilled with God's ability. He never intended to use your own ability because he intended to give you his ability to fulfill it with. So we have to have this skill that Brother Copeland demonstrated by saying, in Christ I have it. In Christ I can do everything God tells me to do. In Christ I have that home. In Christ I have that new business. Everything that God has told me in my life, I'm going to learn to answer that with in Christ I have it, and in Christ I can do it. So let's give ourselves the spiritual habits so we quit going to that mental arena and dismissing ourselves from what God wants to include us in on. Because in Christ will include us in on the God flow. But outside of Christ we're left to the human flow. But God offers us the higher flow, which is the in Christ life. Amen. Well, we're going to continue this direction and we don't want you to miss joining us next time. And until next time, remember this Jesus Jesus is the Healer. God bless you.
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