Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne – Episode 857

Title: In Christ I Can, Part 97
Date: October 14, 2025
Podcast Host: Nancy Dufresne (Dufresne Ministries)

Episode Overview

In this episode of "Jesus the Healer," Nancy Dufresne continues her extensive series, "In Christ I Can," focusing on recognizing and partaking in all that God has provided for believers through Christ. She emphasizes living as "doers of the Word," renewing one’s mind, and learning to depend solely on God—not on people or worldly avenues—for provision, healing, and fulfillment. Nancy explores key scriptures, shares personal stories of faith, and provides practical teaching on how to fully partake in the abundant life available in Christ.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Ever-Present Power of God

• Nancy opens with a powerful reminder: "There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you...power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what's not." (00:10–00:31)
• Listeners are encouraged to actively receive this power through faith, regardless of their current circumstances.

Living as Doers of the Word, Not Just Hearers

• Nancy stresses the importance of being more than appreciative of the Word: "We appreciate the Word, but we do more than appreciate it. We do the Word. It becomes our manner of living every day." (00:53–01:07)
• The Word is not just for Sundays—it shapes every day, as believers are meant to experience “days of heaven on earth” by living according to it.

The Difference Between Possessing and Partaking

• Believers already possess everything in Christ, but the key is partaking—actually experiencing these realities in daily life rather than living below their privilege.
• "Everything good and everything in Christ belongs to us. But we don't want to just be possessors of it. We want to also be partakers of it, experiencing it in our everyday life." (02:15–02:26)

Faith’s Role in Receiving What’s Already Given

• Nancy delves into 2 Peter 1:3, highlighting that “God’s divine power has given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness” (03:03).
• "If God has given it, it's up to faith to receive it...We are not trying to get God to give us something yet. We are simply receiving what He's already given." (03:16–03:30)
• She contrasts Old Testament prayers (“asking God to give”) with New Testament faith (“receiving what’s already given in Christ”).

Faith Should Rest on God, Not the Avenue

• Nancy shares a personal testimony about ministry provision, detailing how God corrected her to focus faith on Him—not on people He might use as channels.
• "You can shift your faith to people. You can shift your faith to avenues. And God will use many different avenues, but He never wants our faith attached to an avenue. Our faith is to be attached to the provider who provides, the one who gives." (06:44–07:12)
• Listeners are advised: if a source (like a job or spouse) changes or is lost, examine if your peace is lost with it—that indicates misplaced faith.

No Person or Thing Should Be Your Source

• "Never put your faith in an avenue. Always put your faith in God." (09:14)
• She warns against looking to people—even spouses or employers—as your provider: "Your husband's not your provider...the two of you believe together that God's your provider." (10:25–10:38)

Full Reliance vs. Partial Leaning

• Nancy vividly illustrates biblical trust: "If we're leaning on somebody and we're leaning so fully on them that if they move, we hit the floor. That's the kind of leaning that we're to do on God...not partially, because that's not faith." (13:37–14:10)
• Having backup plans (B, C, D) often indicates a lack of total dependence on God’s promises.

Scriptural Foundation: Colossians 2

• Nancy highlights Colossians 2:6–10 (Amplified and Living Bible translations):
  • In Christ, the fullness of God dwells, and believers are made full in Him.
  • "You have everything when you have Christ." (19:40)
  • "God is everything in me. There's none of God that has been with me, withheld from me. I'm the possessor of all of Him. Now, why would we not spend Him? Let's spend Him. What's that mean? Draw on Him." (20:18–20:32)

The Principle of Drawing on Christ Through Obedience

• Nancy teaches that “drawing on Christ” happens by simple, joyful obedience.
• She uses the example of Jesus turning water into wine (John 2):
  • "If he tells you to do something and you obey what he tells you, he gets in that obedience. He meets that obedience and fills that action of obedience with His own self, His own ability, His own power." (23:17–23:28)
• Obedience isn’t about self-effort, but making room for God’s intervention and supply in every situation.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On God’s readiness to provide:
  "We will never do without because in Christ, and He has provided everything we'll ever need. He does not want our life to ever look less than because it's not the true representation of in Christ when we're struggling, when we're doing without." (04:37–04:54)

• On faith being tied to God, not people:
  "Leave out the middleman...Appreciate someone's obedience...But you should never give to that middleman the confidence and the faith that you put only in God." (07:39–08:18)

• Practical test of where your faith rests:
  "Your employer calls and said, there's been a change at the work? Well, praise God. God's got something better for me. That should be your immediate response. Why? Because in Christ I'm always provided for." (15:54–16:13)

• On the privilege of obedience:
  "Too many times people are hoping He doesn't command something of them, but the privilege is hearing what He commands of us because He intends to fulfill that command through us." (24:59–25:11)

Timestamps for Major Segments

• 00:10–00:41 – God's healing power is present everywhere; how to receive it.
• 00:52–03:02 – The necessity of living as “doers of the Word.”
• 03:03–05:54 – Receiving what God has already given via faith; difference between Old and New Testament approach.
• 06:44–08:18 – Personal story on faith and provision; shifting faith from people (middlemen) to God.
• 09:14–10:38 – Exhortation against trusting people or avenues; faith must rest in God alone.
• 13:37–14:10 – Illustration of what true dependence on God looks like.
• 17:03–20:14 – Colossians 2:6–10; understanding the fullness believers have in Christ.
• 20:15–21:10 – What it means to "spend" Christ; practical obedience.
• 23:17–25:11 – Mary, Jesus, and the miracle at Cana: Obedience as the channel for God’s power.
• 25:12–27:24 – Drawing practical applications: spending Christ, obeying Him, letting Him fill your actions with power.

Conclusion & Final Thought

Nancy Dufresne’s teaching in this episode centers on the sufficiency and fullness believers have in Christ, the necessity of fully leaning on God, and the practical outworking of faith through obedience. She encourages believers not to live "cheated" or below the privileges inherited through Christ, but rather—through knowledge and ongoing obedience—to partake in everything God has put within reach.

As Nancy closes: "Every time you need something from God, He's going to involve you by giving you something to obey…When you spend Him, you just stepped into divinity." (26:06–26:24)

Next up: The series continues with further exploration of living "In Christ I Can."

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