Podcast Summary
Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
Episode 863 | In Christ I Can, Part 103
Date: October 22, 2025
Host: Nancy Dufresne (Dufresne Ministries)
Overview
This episode continues Nancy Dufresne’s long-running series “In Christ I Can,” focusing on the believer’s identity in Christ and practical steps for living out that reality. Nancy emphasizes the importance of knowing who we are in Christ, yielding to the Holy Spirit, drawing on God’s strength within, and learning to follow His leading in every area of life. She illustrates these truths through scriptural teaching and personal stories, encouraging listeners to step away from struggle and into the peace and provision that are theirs in Christ.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
Christ’s Power and Presence in Every Situation
- Faith for Healing: Nancy opens with the assurance that God’s healing power is present with every believer – “There’s enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one…” ([00:10]).
- Receiving by Faith: Instead of striving or struggling, listeners are prompted to receive God’s power as a present reality – “Say, I receive that power. I receive it right now.” ([00:32–00:41])
Knowing and Taking Your Place in Christ
- Our Identity and Confession: Understanding who Christ is in us leads to a life without struggle. “We have a place in Christ, but we need to learn to take our place, the place that in Christ gives us…and that removes all struggle from our life.” ([01:02])
- Leaning on Christ: Nancy echoes Christ’s own words, emphasizing reliance on God:
“My Father in me, He does the works.” ([02:03])
This is presented as a confession for the believer as well.
The Vine and the Branch Principle
- John 15 Illustration: Just as a branch doesn’t lack anything from the vine, believers lack nothing in Christ. Everything in Christ is freely available to the believer ([03:30]).
Living, Moving, and Having Being in God
- Acts 17:28 Focus:
“In him we live, in him we move, and in him we have our being.” ([04:14])
- Every Move & Decision: Nancy instructs that before any action, one should look inward to the Holy Spirit’s leading ([05:06]).
- Provision in Him:
“There is nothing my life needs that it doesn’t have in him. He is the provision, he is the supply, he is the help for every single need.” ([06:38])
Removing Struggle by Yielding to the Spirit
- Rest vs. Hardness: God did not author a hard life for the believer. Hardness arises from veering away from God’s leading ([07:36]).
- Challenges Without Struggle: Tests and trials will come, but “they don’t have to get in you.” ([09:02])
- How God Works:
- Listen to Him
- Obey His voice ([09:56])
“Faith hears, but also faith obeys.” ([10:11])
Testimonies: God’s Leading in Everyday Life
- Raising Children: Nancy recounts personal experiences of God’s direct guidance in parenting decisions, such as knowing whom her sons would marry and their ministerial callings ([11:11-13:17]).
- Anecdote: Going South for a Spouse: God led her family “south” for ministry, leading her son to meet his future wife ([13:26]).
Brother Hagin’s Bus Station Testimony
- Story of Divine Assurance: Nancy tells the story of Kenneth E. Hagin assuring a grandmother her missing granddaughter was safe because the Holy Spirit would have alerted him otherwise – illustrating sensitivity to the Holy Spirit’s leading ([15:56-18:58]).
- The Role of Peace:
“When God speaks, peace comes. When God moves, everything is calm, everything goes into place.” ([20:23])
Following the Holy Spirit: Practical Steps
- Voice of the Spirit vs. Other Voices: “The voice of another they won’t follow.” ([21:11])
- “You will hear wrong voices…But when you know how to recognize the voice of the Holy Spirit, you’ll say, I’m not following any other thing except the voice of the Holy Spirit.” ([21:30-21:42])
- Learning Discernment: Discerning between thoughts that arise from God (from within) and those that do not (from outside, including the enemy or circumstances) ([24:15]).
Sensitizing Yourself to the Spirit
- Feed on the Word to ensure the leading is in line with scripture
- Pray in other tongues to increase sensitivity to the Spirit’s voice in the heart rather than the mind ([24:45])
- “If I have peace, that is the Spirit leading me to do it. If I don’t have peace, that’s the Spirit leading me not to do it.” ([25:02])
Living Confidently in Christ
- No More “Guessing and Going”: “God wants us to live a life where we’re not living by guessing and going, but we’re hearing and we’re knowing and we’re making steps in line with his plan.” ([25:06])
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “We need to learn to say this: I’m putting Christ to work for me today because He’s in there so that we’ll respond to Him.” – Nancy Dufresne ([01:35])
- “In him we live, in him we move, and in him we have our being. My goodness. We could take each one of those three phrases and preach whole sermons on them.” – Nancy Dufresne ([04:13])
- “God did not author a hard life for any of us. The Word tells us…the way of the transgressor is hard.” – Nancy Dufresne ([07:36])
- “Tests and trials are going to come…but they don’t have to get in you. And you don’t have to get into a hard flow.” – Nancy Dufresne ([09:02])
- Brother Hagin:
“God and I have a working relationship. And if something…serious had happened to your granddaughter, God would have told me, because God makes me a blessing to the homes I’m in…I can go as much by what God doesn’t say as by what he does say.” ([17:45])
- “When God speaks, peace comes. When God moves, everything is calm, everything goes into place. And that’s the way we can expect our life.” – Nancy Dufresne ([20:23])
- “Primarily, number one, you’ll have peace in your spirit...do I have peace or do I not have peace?...If I have peace, that is the Spirit leading me to do it. If I don’t have peace, that’s the Spirit leading me not to do it.” – Nancy Dufresne ([24:58])
Timestamps for Important Segments
- [00:10] – Assurance of God’s healing power in every circumstance
- [01:02] – The importance of taking our place in Christ
- [04:13] – Expounding on Acts 17:28: “in him we live, move, and have our being”
- [07:36] – The source of struggle: living outside God’s leading
- [11:11] – Testimony: God’s help in raising children
- [15:56–18:58] – Brother Hagin’s testimony: the lost granddaughter and hearing from the Holy Spirit
- [21:11] – Discerning the voice of the Holy Spirit
- [24:15] – How God speaks to us: from the spirit, not the mind
- [24:45] – Developing sensitivity to the Spirit: feeding on the Word and praying in tongues
- [25:02] – Peace as the primary indicator of the Spirit’s leading
Final Thoughts
Nancy Dufresne’s teaching in this episode centers on living every moment conscious of Christ within, depending on His power, and being led by His Spirit. The message is clear: in Christ, not only is every need met, but every decision can be guided by His peace and provision—if we will only listen, receive, and respond. This episode is rich in encouragement for those seeking a practical, Spirit-led walk with God.