Podcast Summary: “Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast”

Episode 865 | In Christ I Can, Part 105
Date: October 24, 2025
Host: Nancy Dufresne (Dufresne Ministries)

Overview of the Episode

This episode continues Nancy Dufresne’s in-depth teaching series, “In Christ I Can,” focusing on the believer’s identity and inheritance in Christ. Nancy underscores how living “in Christ” fundamentally changes how we respond to challenges, experience God’s provision, and receive healing. Through biblical examples and practical testimonies, Nancy emphasizes that believers must agree with what God says—even when circumstances look impossible—because every need is already supplied in Christ.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Testimony of Provision and Agreement

(00:10–06:00)

• Nancy shares a testimony from Kenneth Copeland in the 1970s:
  • God directed Brother Copeland, then in debt, to sow $50,000 into Kenneth Hagin’s ministry.
  • Copeland responded, “In Christ I have it, and in Christ I can give it,” even though he didn’t possess the funds naturally.
  • This opened Nancy’s eyes to “answering based on the resources of heaven instead of based on our own resources.”
  • Key principle: God gives seed to the sower; “He waits for your agreement before He moves.”
  • Provision comes after agreement and action in obedience, not before.

Quote:
“In Christ I have it, and in Christ I can give it.”
— Nancy quoting Kenneth Copeland (05:10)

2. Distinguishing ‘In Christ’ from ‘Outside of Christ’

(06:01–12:45)

• Biblical Foundation: Acts 17:28 (“In Him we live and move and have our being”)—living “in Christ” unlocks heaven’s resources.
• Hearing God’s Directives: It’s crucial to “hear what God says to us” because He only directs us into what He already has supplied.
• Abraham & Lot Example: God’s promises are specific and personal; believers must listen for what God is saying directly to them.
• In Christ vs. Outside:
  • “In Christ, you’re healed… In Christ, there’s nothing impossible.”
  • Outside of Christ is where lack, symptoms, pain, and disease thrive.

Quote:
“In Christ, you’re healed. In Christ, there’s no pain. In Christ, there’s no symptoms. In Christ, there’s nothing impossible. Outside of Christ is where symptoms are.”
— Nancy Dufresne (10:05)

3. Speaking and Acting from Our Position in Christ

(12:46–21:10)

• Taking Action:
  • Brother Copeland began by sowing pocket change, putting it in a box, and mailing it to Kenneth Hagin’s ministry. Over time, the small actions multiplied into the full $50,000.
  • Analogy: Like the boy’s lunch that Jesus multiplied (John 6), when what isn’t enough is given to God, it becomes more than enough.
• Heaven’s System:
  • “He brings the greatness to the action.”
  • God doesn’t want us to use our own resources only, but to express faith and move in obedience, letting Him supply and multiply.
• Spiritual Habit: Keep your words in line with what’s true “in Christ.” Refuse to talk or think as if “outside of Christ.”
• Our Authority:
  • We are authorized to declare provision, healing, and wholeness as ours—because they are in Christ.
  • “It’s not money that makes you prosperous. It’s because you’re in Christ and He is the treasure box of heaven.”

Quote:
“You are authorized to speak based on who you are in Christ. … So in the face of pain, you can say, ‘In Christ there is no pain.’”
— Nancy Dufresne (13:57)

4. The Power of Confession: ‘In Christ’ as a New Language

(21:11–24:00)

• How to Respond:
  • When faced with need or opposition, immediately say: “In Christ, I can do that,” or “In Christ, I have that.”
  • Philippians 4:13: “I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me”—not random things, but those God tells you to do.
  • God’s supply is attached to His plan for your life.
• Practical Examples:
  • Pastors seeking buildings, parents praying for children’s salvation, believers needing provision—all should speak about what’s true “in Christ.”
• Vocal Confession is Vital:
  • “A silent Christian is a failing Christian.” You must confess what God says.
  • What you confess “opens the door for God to work,” as God performs what is in agreement with His Word.

Quote:
“A silent Christian is a failing Christian. You have to talk about what belongs to you.”
— Nancy Dufresne (24:03)

5. The Flow and Manifestation of Healing

(24:01–27:14)

• Tangible Power:
  • Nancy senses “tangible healing anointing” during the episode, directed toward listeners with pain or disease.
  • Healing is “God’s advertisement of His love for humanity”—it’s available to all who receive it, believers or not.
• Prayer of Healing:
  • Nancy leads listeners in a prayer for healing, instructing them to “release your faith” and believe God will make them whole.
• Final Encouragement:
  • Even if you still feel symptoms, keep talking about who you are “in Christ.”
  • Your confession and agreement are vital to shutting the door on the devil and seeing God’s power manifest.

Quote:
“For in Christ there is no pain. In Christ there is no disease. And we say, we are in Christ. And so we hold our words in line with who we are in Him.”
— Nancy Dufresne (26:12)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Agreement:
  “God waits for your agreement before He moves. And then when we agree, the provision for what we agreed to shows up.” (03:40)
• On Identity:
  “Only learn to acknowledge what’s in Christ—you will never do without.” (16:17)
• On Prosperity:
  “It’s not money that makes you prosperous. It’s because you’re in Christ and He is the treasure box of heaven.” (19:55)
• On Authority:
  “You have so much more in Christ than you have outside of Him. So don’t live on the less-than flow by living life just based on you and your abilities.” (25:44)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Testimony of Kenneth Copeland: 00:10–06:00
• ‘In Christ’ vs. ‘Outside of Christ’ Explanation: 06:01–12:45
• Sowing and Multiplication Testimonies: 12:46–16:50
• The Power of Confession & Speaking ‘In Christ’: 17:00–24:59
• Receiving Healing & Prayer: 25:00–27:14

Conclusion and Final Encouragement

Nancy calls on listeners to develop the spiritual habit of answering every challenge from their position in Christ. She emphasizes that God doesn’t ask you to pay for what He calls you to do—He asks you to believe for it, because all supply is in Christ. As a practical close, Nancy senses anointing for healing and prays for listeners, instructing them to receive and stand on who they are in Christ, refusing to allow natural symptoms or reports to define their reality.

Final encouragement:

“Jesus is the healer. God bless you.” (27:10)

For testimonies, further teaching, or resources, listeners are encouraged to visit DufresneMinistries.org.