← Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
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Thank you to Kenneth Copeland Ministries for sowing the airtime for this broadcast.
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There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you. You may be in a sick room, you may be in a hospital room. And I want to remind you, power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what's not. Try to get something, but notice that he's already made it yours. It's present right where you're at. Say, I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now.
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I receive it right now.
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From the top of my head. From the top of my head. The soles of my feet. The soles of my feet. Welcome. We're so glad you're joining us today for Jesus the Healer. And we are still in the midst of this series that we've been on for a long time, and we are so thrilled we're on it. You know, whenever God spoke to me months ago about starting this series, I had no idea all that. All the light that would be given, all the revelation that would come. But I'm so thrilled because for us to go further in the plan of God, we have to know all that belongs to us in the plan of God. And not only that, this plan that God has authored for your life, it is not going to be fulfilled simply with you, but it's going to be fulfilled. God working through you. So when God formed a plan for your life, he never left us to ourselves to fulfill it apart from Him. He intends to fulfill it through us. And so as we learn together what it means to be one with Christ, to be the dwelling place of Christ, to be in Christ, and for him to be in us, then it authorizes us to not live just drawing on us, but we're drawing on the greater One within us. And I want to remind you, every single time you are faced with opposition, face that opposition with the knowing and with the. The truth on the inside of you that every opposition has already been defeated. And you are dealing with a defeated foe. And you are raised and seated with Christ in heavenly places. And that means we're above every situation. We're not below it. We're. We're in front of every situation. We're not behind it. And we are not the devil's cleanup crew. We are not about him going around and causing difficulty in our life and us running behind him and cleaning it up. If we will follow the Holy Ghost, the greater One on the inside of us, he will put us in front of situations before they erupt. He will help us to abort things that the devil's trying to work. He'll help us to sidestep through that the traps that the devil had laid for us. Because we are not living a life of crisis. And know this. If your life seems to be going from one difficulty to another, one crisis to another, God offers you a higher flow. And it's called the flow of victory that we get in front of situations. Because in Christ, what belongs to us is the lead position, the victory position. And so many times we struggling to, if I could say this, hold their life together. Well, that's not what we're called to do. We're called to rule and reign in this life. But we have to know some things. And so we're grateful that we get to take this time to teach and we just learn together. Because there's never. We never come at a place that we've arrived at all of it. There's so much in God that belongs to us. And it is our privilege to discover that, to search it out, to find it out. And not only once we find it. Be doers of that which we hear. How many of you know? It's not just the hearer that's blessed, it's the doer that's blessed. Our doing begins with our hearing. It involves our hearing. But our hearing is to lead us to be implementing in our daily life that which we feed on about God's word, that which we hear him say to us, that which he is leading us in. And God has authored the best life for us. And we have to decide. I refuse to live less than God's best. And I know this is that God will allow us to have anything in our life that we're okay with if we're okay with it. He has no authority to help us get past it. But when we say, you know what, God? I'm done with this tripping place. I'm done with this point of difficulty. I'm done with struggling with this habit, and I'm done with this thing pushing me around. Then the power of God will back you up so that you can rule and reign instead of being pushed around by the circumstances of life. I love something that is written in Philippians, chapter 4, verse 11. One translation. Paul said this. And I'm not sure off the top of my head which translation it is, but Paul said this. I have learned how to live independent of circumstances. Now listen to that. I have learned how to live independent of circumstances. Do you know really, that's where most people live their lives. They live their life at the point of where the circumstances put them. They think where circumstances put them that they have to stay there. Well, in Christ, we are to rule. In reign circumstances, they show up. Listen, having faith belonging to God, having the word in our mouth does not mean that we won't have tests and trials. But it does mean they won't have the effect on us that the devil intended, that we write the outcome based on the word of God. And so if you realize that there have been some things that have been going on in your life that have been struggle after struggle, conflict after crisis, and it just seems to be that that's the way it's been going. God's not authored that for you because you know this. Jesus said, come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I'll give you rest. And then he said this, Take my yoke upon you. My yoke is. Is easy. My burden is light. What's this mean? He has not authored a hard, difficult life for us. And if you're living that, I just want to announce God offers. And we need to discover that together, because I decided I'm going to live days of heaven on earth. Now, are all circumstances that show up heavenly? Absolutely not. Heaven does not author every circumstance that shows up in your life. But we can apply the flow of heaven in the face of every circumstance. Now, did you get that? We are the ones who are to apply. Apply the flow of heaven in the face of every single circumstance. When I woke up this morning, I'm in Texas, in my home in Fort Worth, Texas, and in the studio here that we have in Texas. And I didn't realize it, but early this morning, well, it was late last night, actually, I heard thunder. I hadn't looked at the weather app to see what the weather was supposed to be, so I was surprised to hear thunder. And then early, early this morning when I got up, I went outside and sat outside on my patio, and it's raining. And I enjoyed sitting back and watching the rain that didn't get me wet, you know, and, you know, having lived in California for so long, we have an outdoor lifestyle. We like sitting outside. So even though it's been hot and humid, I still go outside and wonder at all the people sitting in their house. It's like, why aren't you outside? And so I know why they're not, but I'm still sitting outside. And I was watching the rain early this morning, and I thought, isn't it Wonderful to know that even though storms and difficulties and trials come to life, I don't have to wait for storms to stop for me to start enjoying my life. What is this? I saw this. I saw this quote years ago. And I so appreciated it because it was stated so well of what our life should look like. And this quote said, this life is not about waiting for the storm to stop. It's about learning to dance in the rain. And I want you to know, when you have faith, you never stop dancing. You never stop rejoicing. Why? Because circumstances don't change faith. Circumstances don't change faith. Because circumstances don't change the Word. And faith comes by hearing the Word. So we are authorized to live consistent. We are authorized to live a life of peace and joy every single day. Although every circumstance is not peaceful, every circumstance is not joyful. But we're peaceful. We're joyful. You remember what it says? I believe it's in Romans, chapter 14, verse 17. It says, the kingdom of God. Not meat and drink, but it's righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Ghost. So what's that mean? The flow that the Holy Ghost gets involved in on and the flow that the Holy Ghost will author in our life if we'll follow him and yield to him, is a flow of walking in our righteousness, a flow of peace and a flow of joy. Now, anything else you need to resist. Because in Christ, our flow is to be righteousness, peace and joy. And look at that. This is the flow of the Holy Ghost. This is the flow that the Holy Ghost can manifest in. The Holy Ghost is not manifesting in a flow of fear. He's not manifesting in a flow of worry. He's not manifesting in a flow of struggle. Now, he'll help us when we're faced with those things. But to move with him, we're going to have to yield to our righteousness. Walk as one. Righteous because Christ made you righteous. You are righteous because of what Jesus did. Not because of anything you've done, but because of what he's done. And not only that, with that righteousness, a life of peace and joy. Look at this. Every day, Every single day. That's to be the flow of our life. If it's not righteousness, peace and joy. And joy, we resist it. We treat it as being from the devil and we resist it. We refuse to allow it to operate in our lives. Now, when we talk about righteousness, the devil will always try to point back to your faults, your failures, your weaknesses, and the past. Because he wants to make you get under a flow of condemnation. But we recognize now that we have been made righteous, now that we've been made right with God. Condemnation is a thing we should never ever again yield to. Because condemnation pushes you down, makes you feel less than. It deals negatively with your self image. It tries to paint you differently than the true you. The true you is in Christ. The true you is you are right with God. The true you is who you are in him, who he is in you. And you don't have to go and establish an identity apart from that, because that is the highest identity that you could ever know for your life. And I want you to know we all look so much better in Christ than outside of him. And the devil's always wanting to point to something of your past, something of a poor decision you made, something that. Where you missed God, where you went a wrong direction. And the devil is always wanting to point to that, to try to make you look and feel like you are failing and therefore put you under a place in a flow of condemnation. Because condemnation takes hope out of you. But I will say this. You need to learn to recognize that when the devil tries to bring up your past, you need to remind him that you have been delivered from his kingdom and he has no business even involving himself in your life. Your life does not pertain to him. And don't take counsel from someone who. Who has been delivered, who you've been delivered from. And not only that, don't take someone who has. Don't take counsel from someone who has failed and is a failure because your life is none of his business. You don't belong to him. And so do not sit and try to. If I could say this, feel good about yourself in the face of the threats of the devil. Refuse to entertain and get into the lane of listening to his threats against you. He has nothing to do with your life. You don't belong to him. And you have to remind him he's a trespasser, he's an intruder, and he wants to try to take you captive with the threats and suggestions he brings against your life. So I say this. Think right. Think in terms of what the Word says, that we have been delivered from the kingdom of darkness and we have been translated into the kingdom of his dear son. Now listen to this. I like this word, translated. What's that mean? We were picked up from one location and put in another. We didn't have to travel there. We didn't have to earn the place in the kingdom of his dear Son. We were absolutely taken by God's divine ability, God's power, and we were translated in a moment of time from the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of God's dear son. We did. This does not come by earning. It doesn't come by behavior. It just came by the goodness of God. And so you belong to the kingdom of the Son of God. And so anything that's not of the household of faith, you have no business even letting live with you. And you know, there is such a thing that I'm trying to think of the word, what is it? A squatter. That if someone finds a home that's vacant, squatters will come in people that are homeless or people that are traveling through and they're trying to find a place to set up camp, so to speak. And they will squat in a place that's not theirs. And they have, here in the United States, they have a measure of rights, squatters rights that are. That's a head scratcher to me. But if it doesn't belong to you, just you being there doesn't make it yours. But that's what these people that will try to squat in a place that sometimes once they're allowed to stay, it's very difficult to get them out. I want you to know the devil is going to try to set up his way of thinking in your mind. He wants to set up his way of operating in your life. What is that? He's a squatter. Don't let him evict him. Kick him off, kick him out. Because what happens? The longer we allow wrong thinking to stay, the longer we allow condemnation to press on our mind and press on our lives, what happens? It starts trying to rewrite how we think to come into a flow of error. And then it's sometimes very difficult to get people to see where they've been thinking wrong. Guard your right thinking. The way you do that is you refuse to accept any thought that challenges you in who you are in Christ. Any thought that pushes you down brings condemnation. Refuse to entertain it, because what we don't resist has permission to stay. It is our privilege, but also our responsibility to resist anything that did not come from the household of faith. The Word tells us that we belong to the household of faith. Now listen, if it didn't come out of God's household, we have no business with it. If it's not a part of the flow of what God authored for us in that household of faith, we. We have no business letting it live with us. I was. I remember years ago, my goodness I was in my 20s at the time, and I woke up one night and I had. I'd gone to bed, felt perfectly fine. But in the middle of the night I woke up and every flu symptom was on me. And I got up out of bed and I walked downstairs. And the reason I did that was so I wouldn't fall back into the bed because my body felt like falling back into the bed. So I had to get my body up and out of the place to where it would not recline. So I got up, I went downstairs, and I was walking around at my coffee table and I started fighting the good fight of faith. What is that? I'm not fighting the devil. I'm reminding him Satan has already been defeated by Jesus. I'm not fighting the devil, I'm enforcing the victory that belongs to me. And, and that's called the good fight of faith. So I'm walking around that table and this is what I said. I said, satan flu symptoms did not come out of the household of faith. And I am no thief. I will not be found with any kind of possession that does not belong to the household that belongs to me. I will not go to a different household and partake of their household because I am no thief. And so I will not accept that. And because I'm not of your household, you will not put it on me. And I fought the good fight of faith for just about 20 minutes in the sense of just standing my ground, resisting. And then I just took off praising God. And at the end of that, that segment of time, the spirit of God said to me, well, in all honesty, I sensed something inside change. I sensed something, if I could say this. Break, leave. I sensed it, but nothing in my body changed. And I thought, well, see there I laid hold that hand of faith. Laid hold of my answer. I'm going to go to bed because it's one o' clock in the morning right now and I ought to be in bed and I'm going to bed and I'm not going to stay up and let the devil interrupt my, my sleep. So I go to walk up the stairs, and the moment I go to put my first foot on the step, the thought came to me, you better stay up and resist these symptoms until you have no more symptoms in your body. I stopped for a moment. The word says that we are to try the spirits. What's that mean? Don't accept something till you evaluate it in the light of the word. And I thought, no, I already sensed in the spirit realm, me lay hold of that victory. And it's not my body that tells me I have the victory. It's what I perceived in my spirit. So I will not stay here and deal with my body. I've already dealt with my body by laying hold of my victory with every symptom still on me. I walked up the stairs, I got in bed, I laid down, I stood still, felt every flu symptom. But on the inside of me, I knew I had laid hold of it. And I fell off to sleep. And about an hour later I was awakened because I felt something touch me in my arm. I woke up, I still felt every flu symptom on me. But then I felt a touch on my arm and every symptom left like that. What was that? I don't know whether an angel touched me. I don't know whether Jesus touched me. It doesn't matter what I'm telling. What I'm saying to you is if it didn't come out of the household of faith, it has one response out of you. Resistance. That the life of the believer is a life of resistance. You are resisting. Not fighting, resisting. You refuse. You are not allowing the wrong flow on your territory. And do you know if you have a fence around your property? Do you know what that fence is? It's a sign of resistance. And you know what? You don't even have to labor with that fence. That fence just sits there as a sign to every would be intruder. You're not coming on here. Well, that's exactly the way we exercise our authority. We're not struggling. We have set up a fence, so to speak, the authority of the name of Jesus. You're not. You're not violating and getting on my property because in Christ, all that's good belongs to me. And if it didn't come from Christ, I'm not taking it. So the life of resistance is not a life of warring. It's not a life of battling. It is setting a boundary and saying, devil, you'll go no further. And I want you to know that is. That is a flow of the light and easy. And we are authorized to resist. And then step back and watch our victory work for us, watch the word work for us. Because we're resisting from a place of God's presence and not resisting from a place of struggle. We're not resisting from a place of I'm trying to win something. I'm resisting from a place that I've already won this. And I'm standing on victory territory. And the best place I can be standing in victory territory is in the presence of God. And the Word tells us in Psalm 20, chapter 9 and verse 3 that says that my enemies fall and perish at his presence. So my job is to stay in his presence and resist every enemy, every opposition from the place of his presence, because that's what belongs to the household of faith, the place of enjoying the presence of God. And we have to evaluate what have we let in our life. Listen, we've all let something in that we had no business with. You know, I've told this in the past, but it. So it depicts so well what I've been saying in this episode. But when my youngest son was a toddler, he was 2 or 3 years old. You know, most toddlers, if they, if they go to a store with their parent and then they lose sight of that parent, they'll start crying because they don't like that they can't find their parent. Not my son. He wanted to lose sight of his parents. And so every single day, our. Our home was on. It was on 4 1/2 acres. And so every home out there was on 4 1/2 acres. So there was quite a spread between homes. And my son would open the door and walk out every single day, walk down the road, walk up a hill, and we were at the foothills of some mountains, and he never went to the same place twice. And so finally we, we put. We put locks on. I locked the door. He'd get a chair and he'd go unlock the door. So then I put multiple locks on the door. I mean, we looked like we were housing something, you know, dangerous because of all the locks on our. On our front door. But I put multiple locks on the front door, and he would get on the. He'd just get on a chair and he'd unlock it. So finally it dawned on me. I locked some, and then I left some unlocked. So when he went to unlock them, he ended up locking some. And so then I had beepers on the doors. I had all kinds of everything to try to keep this kid contained. We were having a staff meeting one day, and we, the staff was at the house. And I was telling this story because he got out every day. We were looking for him every single day. And I was telling this story. And then it dawned on me. Wait a minute, I can't hear him while we're having the staff meeting. He's gone. He has left the building. And so the whole staff goes through the whole neighborhood. We, we're combing through. There's probably about 10 or 15 of us there, and we're going everywhere. 30 minutes or so later, they come back and they say, pastor Nancy, we can't find him. I said, I can't either. We can't find him. I said, did you go ask the neighbor? And when I say neighbor, you know, not a close neighbor, acres away neighbor. I said, did you go ask them if they'd seen him? They said, we asked. They said they hadn't seen him, but they said, we'll go ask again. I said, just go ask them one more time. And they said, well, you know, actually we did hear our door open a little while ago, but we just thought it was the wind or something. Let us go look. My son had walked in their house, had gone up the stairs, was sitting at the. The wife's makeup counter playing with toys that he had gotten out of their child's room. What is this? I mean, son, this is not your household. You got no business with it. And I want you to know, when God looks at our life and he sees us hosting something that's not of his household, he's going to say, what are you doing in a household that doesn't belong to you? Having things that you're entertaining in your life and they don't, they did not come out of the household of faith. I say this. Inspect what you are living with, and if it doesn't come out of the household of faith, kick it out. And you say, well, Pastor Nancy, it's been this way a long time. It doesn't matter. Kick it out. Heaven will back you up and only receive what is of the household of faith. Because in Christ, it's goodness and mercy and all the good things of God that belong to you. Don't accept anything less than God's best. Well, well, we're going to pick up here next time teaching on who we are in Christ. And until next time, remember this Jesus is the healer. God bless you.
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In Romans 8:14, God gives His children the promise that he will lead them by his His Spirit. So we have a right to expect to be led. In this important book by Nancy Dufresne, following the Holy Spirit, you will learn how to recognize and follow the leading of the Spirit and receive God's help in every arena of your life. Order this book now@dufresneministries.org Come join us.
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For special services with guest speaker Kenneth Copeland On January 9th and the 10th, 2026 services will be at World Harvest Church in Murrieta, California on Friday night at 7pm and Saturday at 10:30am and 7pm for more information and to register for in person attendance, please visit our website@DefrainMinistries.org we trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us@DefrainMinistries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, submit a prayer request or visit our online store. Thank you to the friends and partners of Dufresne Ministries for making this production possible. We invite you to join us at World Harvest Church, home of Dufresne ministries in Marietta, California, located at 23109 Palomar Street, Marietta, California. This is a Word and Spirit church. Join us in person or online Sunday mornings at 10am and Tuesday nights at 7pm Pacific Time. For more information, go to defrainministries.org.
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We'Re excited to announce a new worship album called in youn glory by Grant DeFresne. For more ways to listen to in youn Glory, scan the QR code on your screen.
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