Podcast Summary

Podcast: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
Episode: 874 | In Christ I Can, Part 114
Air Date: November 6, 2025
Host: Nancy Dufresne (Dufresne Ministries)

Episode Overview

This episode of "Jesus the Healer" continues the "In Christ I Can" series, focusing on the transformative power present in believers because of Christ living within them. Nancy Dufresne explores what it means to be in Christ, how our fellowship with God operates, the importance of renewing the mind, and the believer’s authority over their circumstances—especially concerning faith, healing, and living a victorious Christian life.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. God’s Power Is Ever-Present

• [00:10] Nancy opens by encouraging listeners who are sick or in hospital rooms, stating, “There’s enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one. That may be describing you … Power is present right where you’re at.”
• She urges embracing what is already provided by God, not striving for it:

  “Notice that He’s already made it yours … Say, ‘I receive that power.’” ([00:30])

2. Series Focus: Knowing What Belongs to Us in Christ

• [01:15] The main theme is realizing the believer’s inheritance in Christ—knowing “who He is in you,” which leads to the “highest order of faith.”
• Nancy shares that receiving revelation from God ends struggle:

  “Revelation is progressive … as we grow, we see more light. When you gain revelation of the Word, it’s the end of struggle.” ([02:45])

• She notes that what we experience in Christ far surpasses what Old Testament saints had:

  “God was with them. But think of it—God is in us.” ([04:10])

• Any Old Testament promise must be seen through the lens of the cross: “You have to run it through Calvary—what happened at the cross brought me into more.” ([05:00])

3. Our Identity: Born to Know and Be Like Jesus

• Citing Kenneth Copeland:

  “I was born to know Him and I was born to be like Him.” ([06:05])

• Nancy emphasizes that the believer is meant both to know Jesus and to become like Him, not to admire from afar.

4. The Life and Ministry of Jesus as Model for Believers

• Jesus modeled how the indwelling presence of God is to work:

  “My Father in Me, He does the works.” ([07:30])

• Jesus was a channel for God’s power, and so are we: “We are to be the same thing—the channel for Christ in us to manifest and flow through us.”
• The privilege of “co-heirs”—what belongs to Jesus belongs to us, freely received, not earned.

5. Importance of Fellowship With God

• Jesus’ effectiveness came from His deep fellowship with the Father:

  “All the seeing and all the hearing that Jesus did came from his time of fellowship with His Father. And then he just went out among men and ministered what he saw and what he heard to the people.” ([11:00])

• Fellowship positions the believer to be a conduit for God’s blessings to others, as exemplified by Jesus and ministers like Kathryn Kuhlman:

  “Her fellowship with God made it easy for others to receive their miracles.” ([13:25])

6. Faith and Receiving from God

• Jesus’ ministry proved that anyone who approached Him in faith always received:

  “Anytime someone came to Jesus in faith, they always received. There was never a time that someone in faith did not receive their answer from Him.” ([15:45])

• Unbelief blocks results, even for Jesus in his own hometown.

7. God Uses Us as Channels

• “Your fellowship can be an avenue that God can manifest through … He’s looking to move and manifest and rescue the lives of people. And the wonderful thing is He’s included us in that.” ([18:10])

8. Learning to Respond to the Spirit

• Nancy encourages listeners to practice responding to the Holy Spirit, drawing from the example of Smith Wigglesworth:

  “[Wigglesworth said:] ‘Every time the Spirit would move on me, I would just yield and yield and yield and yield.’” ([20:10])

• Everyday obedience builds spiritual skill. Small, daily responses to God fine-tune spiritual hearing.

9. Spirit, Soul, and Body: Aligning the Mind

• The mind (soul) is the “variable” that tips the balance between following the flesh or the spirit.

  “If the mind is fed on the word of God … it will agree with the faith that’s in your spirit.” ([24:00])

• Reiterates the believer’s authority over thoughts:

  “I refuse to have a troubled mind. ... In Christ, we are not coping. In Christ, we are ruling and reigning.” ([25:25])

• The importance of bringing the mind in line with the spirit so that the believer rules, not their flesh.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [06:05] “I was born to know Him and I was born to be like Him.”
  — Kenneth Copeland, quoted by Nancy Dufresne

• [07:30] “Jesus made the statement, He said, ‘My Father in Me, He does the works.’”

• [11:00] “All the seeing and all the hearing that Jesus did came from his time of fellowship with His Father.”

• [13:25] “Her fellowship with God made it easy for others to receive their miracles.”
  — On Kathryn Kuhlman

• [20:15] “Every time the Spirit would move on me, I would just yield and yield and yield and yield.”
  — Smith Wigglesworth, quoted by Nancy

• [25:25] “In Christ, we are not coping. In Christ, we are ruling and reigning. And that means even in the mental arena.”

Key Timestamps

• [00:10] – Power is present in every situation
• [01:15] – Discovering our inheritance in Christ
• [05:00] – Interpreting the Old Testament in light of the cross
• [06:05] – “Born to know Him and be like Him”
• [11:00] – Jesus’ fellowship with the Father as the source
• [13:25] – Kathryn Kuhlman’s fellowship as a channel for miracles
• [15:45] – Faith as the key to receiving
• [18:10] – God desires to work through us
• [20:10] – Wigglesworth’s lesson on yielding to the Spirit
• [24:00] – Mind as the deciding factor
• [25:25] – Authority over the mind; ruling, not coping

Tone and Language

Throughout the episode, Nancy Dufresne’s tone is pastoral, earnest, and full of urgency—pressing listeners to realize their victory and authority in Christ, and to live in the fullness of what God has provided. She balances teaching with testimony, practical advice with spiritual encouragement, inviting listeners into deeper fellowship, faith, and renewing of the mind.

Conclusion

Nancy concludes by declaring the believer’s authority to rule and reign, not just to cope, and by urging daily practice in responding to the Spirit and disciplining the mind. The message encourages believers to be conscious of Christ within, see themselves as God sees them, and let their lives become avenues for God’s power and blessing to flow into the world.

“Remember this: Jesus is the healer. God bless you.” ([26:45])