Podcast Summary: "In Christ I Can, Part 133"

Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne (Episode 893) | December 3, 2025

Main Theme

Nancy Dufresne continues her extensive series on understanding and living out one's identity "in Christ." This episode focuses on how believers have access to divine help, healing, and wisdom through their union with Christ, especially through the Holy Spirit. Nancy shares personal testimonies and practical steps on relying on God—rather than human reasoning or natural resources—when facing life’s challenges, setbacks, or needs.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Present Power of God for Healing and Victory

• Nancy begins by reminding listeners that God's power is present "in every sick room and in every hospital room" (00:10).
  • Quote: “Say, I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now.” (00:31, Nancy)
• The importance of meditating on the Word and allowing truth to take deep root in our hearts is emphasized, leading to lasting spiritual fruit (01:05-01:40).

2. Our Identity in Christ

• The episode centers on the foundational truth: "Who we are in Christ... is the foundation of our redemption." (02:10)
• Knowing Christ lives in us means we are not limited to our natural abilities.
  • Quote: "He has filled us with Himself so that he can flow through us unhindered." (02:30)
• God’s plan was never for us to fulfill His purpose apart from Him; we’re called to rely on His presence and flow (03:00-03:40).

3. Skillfulness in Drawing on the Holy Spirit

• Difficulties or oppositions do not mean defeat; in Christ, the outcome should be victory, not as "the devil intended." (04:30)
• The story of her husband's unexpected passing in 2013 is shared as a testimony to faith rewriting outcomes intended for harm (05:00-05:40).
  • Quote: “The devil will launch something against us, but just because he launched it doesn't mean he gets to write the ending… Faith gets to write the ending.” (05:12)

4. Not Defaulting to the “Old Man”

• When faced with challenges, believers are encouraged not to revert to old habits or natural reasoning but to ask, “What does the Word say?”
• Avoid defaulting to natural calculations and instead seek God’s perspective first (07:00-08:40).

5. Testimonies of Divine Help

• Nancy recounts two key personal testimonies:
  1. Her husband’s experience with divorce and the counsel he received to pray in the Holy Ghost to heal and move forward (09:05-11:00).
     • Quote: “Hurt does not have to enter us. And if it has, we’re not called to cope with it, but to uproot it.” (10:25)
     • Advice from Norvel Hayes to “spend time praying in the Holy Ghost” to find restoration.
  2. Nancy’s own experience leaving a wrong relationship and using focused time in worship, Bible reading, and praying in tongues to experience total freedom within three weeks. (12:56-14:28)
     • Quote: “Praying in the Holy Ghost was like a divine vacuum… it was as though it never even happened.” (14:12)

6. Divine Help Surpasses Natural Help

• True help comes from the Spirit within, not just from human conversation or mental effort.
  • Quote: "Never run to mental help... always turn toward the greater one in you." (16:30)
• The support from being among God’s people is valuable, but the wisest first response is to go to the Holy Spirit in prayer (17:12-17:49).

7. Facing Loss and Need through Spiritual Means

• After her husband’s passing, Nancy notes she never felt loneliness because she drew on the Holy Spirit’s presence (18:40-19:40).
• Quote: “I refuse to feel loneliness. I draw on the Holy Spirit. When I face a test, I don’t go out here [she gestures outward], I go in here.” (19:10)

8. Practical Application: Handling Pressure and Financial Need

• Nancy shares a story of needing $300,000 for her ministry. Instead of succumbing to pressure or figuring it out mentally, she paused, prayed in the Holy Spirit, and received clear wisdom on what to do (21:15-25:00).
  • Quote: “Just because someone tries to put pressure on you does not mean you have to take it. That’s their pressure and they’re going to keep it.” (22:45)
  • She emphasizes not to “employ the mind” while praying in the Spirit, but to stay spiritually attentive for wisdom (24:00).

9. The Gift of the Holy Spirit

• Nancy explains the distinction between salvation (available to all) and the infilling of the Holy Spirit (available to believers), with speaking in tongues as evidence (25:41-27:10).
  • Quote: “The Holy Ghost is not a tongue. He is a person. But it’s evidence of the infilling that you begin to speak…” (27:00)
• She prays for listeners to receive the Holy Spirit and encourages further engagement if they desire to know more.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On victory:
  "Victory is to be the outcome of every situation that we face in life." (04:55)
• On adversity:
  "Don't ever accept a negative ending, no matter what circumstance shows up." (06:30)
• On the Holy Spirit as ‘divine help’:
  "In Christ, what belongs to you is divine help. It belongs to you, the help of the greater One who's on the inside…" (16:55)
• On seeking wisdom:
  "Take time to pray in the Holy Spirit so that you make your spirit sensitive to what the Holy Spirit is saying to you." (25:30)
• On pressure:
  "I decided that moment I will not take pressure from them. Just because someone tries to put pressure on you does not mean you have to take it." (22:45)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:10 — Emphasizing God’s healing power present everywhere
• 02:10 — The foundation of identity in Christ
• 05:12 — Faith determines the outcome, not the enemy
• 09:05 — Testimony: Healing after divorce through praying in the Holy Ghost
• 12:56 — Testimony: Freedom from past relationships
• 16:30 — Relying on divine help above natural help
• 19:10 — Handling loss without loneliness
• 21:15 — Miracle provision story: $300,000 need
• 25:41 — Teaching on the Holy Spirit and tongues
• 27:10 — Prayer for the infilling of the Holy Spirit

Takeaways

• Make knowing and living from your identity in Christ your priority.
• When tested, don’t fall back to natural ways; turn first to God’s Word and Spirit.
• Praying in the Spirit is a vital key to healing, direction, and victory.
• The Holy Spirit within is your greatest and most direct source of help and wisdom.
• Pressure, loss, or confusion are invitations to press in to God for divine solutions and peace.

For further teaching or prayer regarding the Holy Spirit, Nancy encourages visiting JesusTheHealer.org or contacting her ministry for resources and support.