Podcast Summary

Podcast: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
Episode: 909 | In Christ I Can, Part 149
Date: December 25, 2025
Host: Nancy Dufresne (Dufresne Ministries)

Episode Overview

In this episode, Nancy Dufresne continues her long-running series, “In Christ I Can,” focusing on faith, healing, and the believer’s authority in Christ. She emphasizes the importance of aligning with God’s truth over circumstances, especially regarding health, provision, and overcoming fear. Using scripture, personal testimony, and real-life examples, Nancy teaches listeners to recognize and resist "lying vanities"—circumstances, symptoms, or thoughts that contradict God's word—so they can receive God’s mercy and live out His plan in fullness.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Power and Presence of God for Healing

• (00:10) Nancy encourages faith that God’s healing power is available everywhere:
  • "There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one... Power is present." (Nancy Dufresne, 00:10)
  • Emphasis on receiving this power personally by declaring it over oneself.

2. Christ as Our Source and All That We Need

• (00:43 - 03:00) Nancy highlights that everything God planned for us is found in Christ:
  • "Everything that belongs to Christ belongs to us. He is in us, we are in him."
  • God’s plan is fully supplied, including health and provision, and believers are authorized to resist anything that opposes it.

3. The Danger of ‘Lying Vanities’

• (03:00 - 11:00) Teaching from Jonah 2:8: “They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy.”
  • Nancy urges not to focus on negative circumstances, symptoms, or thoughts ("lying vanities"), but to fix attention on God’s mercy and truth.
  • “Symptoms are nothing but the temptation to agree to sickness... We refuse to agree that we're sick. We are the whole.” (Nancy Dufresne, 07:08)
  • Believing anything contrary to God’s Word causes us to miss out on His mercy.

4. The Root of Fear and the Deceptiveness of Circumstances

• (11:00 - 19:00) Nancy recounts a pastoral experience with a woman suffering from unexplained health issues:
  • Identified fear, not physical sickness, as the root issue, quoting 2 Timothy 1:7.
  • Despite ministry and encouragement to meditate on scriptures about fear, the woman continually focused on her symptoms (lying vanities).
  • The tragic outcome—her body shut down due to relentless fear, confirmed by doctors’ post-mortem findings, despite no physical disease.
  • “I can't want something for you more than you want for you. ... She had already decided her body was the problem when I knew that fear was the problem.” (Nancy Dufresne, 16:50)
  • Jesus reportedly told the woman in a vision: "Pastor Nancy gave you your answer, but you wouldn't believe her." (18:35)

5. God’s Word versus Facts

• (19:00 - 22:00) Nancy distinguishes between “fact” and “truth”:
  • Facts (symptoms, financial lack) may be real, but the truth of God’s Word is higher.
  • “Truth trumps fact. ... If we're going to observe a fact and give it the highest seat, instead of the truth of God's word, we're going to forsake our own mercies in Christ.” (Nancy Dufresne, 20:40)

6. Seeing Through the Illusion of Negative Circumstances

• (22:00 - 26:00) Uses movie analogy to explain how circumstances can “look real” but are not necessarily truth:
  • Recalls a testimony of parents-in-law refusing to accept a dire medical prognosis after a major accident. They chose to believe God’s word, and the relative was fully healed.
  • “We will not believe that movie. It's fiction. That is not the truth about our daughter in law's future.” (Nancy Dufresne, 24:30)
  • "It doesn't matter what the doctor says. It matters what you say about your life." (Nancy Dufresne, 25:15)

7. Personal Testimony of God’s Provision

• (26:00 - 27:00) Nancy shares a personal story about a large financial obligation after her husband passed. She trusted God rather than falling into fear, and the exact need was supernaturally met.
  • "I told you the day my husband went home to be with the Lord that my faith is in you and it's not in an avenue. ... I didn't pray extra. I didn't fast extra. I didn't call a prayer meeting. ... Either God can do it or he can't." (Nancy Dufresne, 26:35)

8. Concluding Encouragement

• The overarching lesson: Do not give authority to circumstances (“lying vanities”), but elevate God’s unchanging word above all. If you’re in Christ, the truth is on your side and His mercy is ever-present.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Don’t believe anything more than you believe what God says, because if we choose to believe something different... we forsake the mercy that God has waiting for us.” (Nancy Dufresne, 07:54)
• “Symptoms are nothing but lying vanities.” (Nancy Dufresne, 08:01)
• “If we believe the wrong thing, we’ll have the wrong thing. But why don’t we believe in the mercy of God so that we can have a flow of the mercy of God?” (Nancy Dufresne, 22:59)
• “If you can see it, it’s up for change. ... The Word of God trumps everything that we see.” (Nancy Dufresne, 27:03)

Important Timestamps

• 00:10 – Power for healing is present everywhere; call to faith
• 03:00 – Teaching from Jonah: “Lying vanities” vs. mercy of God
• 07:00 – On ‘symptoms’ as temptations to buy into sickness
• 11:00–19:00 – The story of the struggling woman and the root of fear
• 19:00 – Facts vs. truth: prioritizing God’s Word
• 22:00 – Movie analogy: circumstances may look real but are not
• 24:30 – Testimony: family’s faith in the face of negative reports
• 26:00 – Nancy’s personal testimony of God’s supernatural provision
• 27:03 – The Word of God changes every circumstance

Episode Takeaways

• Do not allow what you see, feel, or hear to override what God has declared in His word.
• The truth of the Word supersedes all facts and circumstances, including symptoms and lack.
• Fear and deception can rob you of health and God’s mercy if given credence.
• Guard your agreement—do not attach your faith to “lying vanities.”
• Your inheritance in Christ is a sound mind, divine health, provision, and authority to resist fear and lack.
• God’s unchanging word is the anchor; don’t buy into any "movie" the enemy or circumstances might play before you.

Next Episode Preview: Continues the powerful series “In Christ I Can.”
Final Blessing: “Remember this: Jesus is the healer. God bless you.”