Episode Overview

Podcast: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
Episode: 933 | In Christ I Can, Part 173
Date: January 28, 2026
Theme:
Nancy Dufresne explains the sufficiency found "in Christ"—emphasizing that God's power and provision are available to every believer through their union with Jesus. The episode explores how faith is not just about knowing God's will, but also His ways, and the importance of seeking, knowing, and cooperating with God, not just receiving from Him.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Power and Provision Present in Christ

• Power at Hand: Nancy opens by encouraging listeners that "there's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one" and that believers should receive this power by faith (00:10).

• Receiving by Faith: Emphasis on not "trying to get something" from God but realizing "he's already made it yours. It's present right where you're at" (00:28).

  “Say, I receive that power. I receive it right now.” — Nancy Dufresne (00:36)

2. Beyond Hearing to Doing the Word

• Hearing vs. Doing: Nancy stresses the importance of applying God's Word, not just hearing it.

• Renewing the Mind: Renewal comes not just from confession, but from actual obedience and action (00:43 – 03:02).

  “Our progress doesn’t stop at the hearing, but we’re to move on to doing.” — Nancy Dufresne (00:56)

3. All-Sufficiency in God's Kingdom

• Cites Colossians 2:9 (03:10): “For in Christ there is all of God in a human body. So you have everything when you have Christ.”

• Believers are "filled with God through your union with Christ." All provision is found in Jesus, who is described as "the treasure box of heaven" (03:26).

  "It's not about getting God to do something for us... but about us recognizing that he has put in Christ everything that he planned for our life." (03:40)

4. Our Sufficiency Is of God, Not Ourselves

• References 2 Corinthians 3:5: “Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think anything as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God” (04:28).

• Explains how even Jesus relied on the Father; miracles came from his union with God, just as believers must rely on Christ and the Holy Spirit (04:48).

  “God is the laborer and we are the co-laborer. And that's exactly how Jesus functioned.” (05:02)

5. Know Both the Will and the Ways of God

• Knowing God Personally: It's not enough to know God’s will; we also need to learn His ways (08:30).

• Uses Psalm 103:7: “God made known his ways unto Moses, his acts unto the children of Israel” (09:00).

• Those who only sought God's acts (the Israelites) missed entering the Promised Land because they didn’t pursue His ways (10:20).

  “We can see what God does and not know how he does it. Well, that’s not what we want to do.” (09:41)

6. The Importance of Interest and Seeking

• To truly know God, we must “ask, seek, and knock”—indicating deep interest (16:35).

• Relates personal anecdotes about spiritual curiosity in marriage and faith:

  "If you have a couple that's married, but the spouses are not interested in learning each other's ways... they're not going to have the kind of fellowship..." (12:07)

• Applying this to God: We are meant to learn not just what God gives but who He is, and how He works (13:30).

7. Adapting to God, Not the Reverse

• Warns against expecting God to adapt to us—as the Israelites did—but rather, we must adapt to Him and His Word (15:29).

• "People want God to adapt to them instead of them adapting to God" is a major issue today (15:50).

  “God’s not going to change how he functions... When you’re perfect, you just don’t need to change.” (16:09)

8. The Reward of Persistent Interest

• Matthew 7:7-8: “Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and you shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you…” (17:09).

• God rewards those who actively seek Him and His ways—not limited to ministers, but for all believers (18:00).

• Asks listeners: Are you interested in knowing God, or just receiving from Him?

  “Sometimes people, they just show up in church to get a need met, but they don’t stay around to learn the need meter.” (19:53)

9. Testimonies of Faith & Seeking

• Personal story from Nancy’s early faith journey—realizing healing came when she pursued God’s Word, not passively waited (22:05).

• Healing testimony: A woman with a terminal diagnosis sought out teaching at Kenneth Hagin’s healing school and was healed because she chose to “ask, seek, knock” (23:34).

• Key quote from Kenneth Hagin (shared by Nancy):

  “If you were interested enough in your healing, you’d do something with my word.” — (22:30)
  “It’s all in the book.” — Holy Spirit to Kenneth Hagin (24:53)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Sufficiency in Christ:

  “Jesus is the treasure box of heaven, and we draw out of that wealth of who we are in Christ and who he is in us.” (07:12)

• On Knowing God’s Ways:

  "He’s not trying to hide Himself from us. He wants us to know Him. Not just know his will, but he wants us to know his ways." (13:55)

• On Adapting to God:

  "God is not going to allow us to try to... We’re not changing him to suit us. We have to adapt to suit Him." (16:25)

• Calling for Hunger for God:

  “We will only find what we seek. If we don’t seek for it, we won’t find it.” (25:17)

Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment/Content | |------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:10 | Opening thoughts: Power for healing is present and available | | 03:10 | Golden text: Colossians 2:9 and all-sufficiency in Christ | | 04:28 | Key text: 2 Corinthians 3:5—our sufficiency is of God | | 08:30 | Transition: Not enough to know God's will, must know His ways | | 09:00 | Reference: Psalm 103:7—the difference between acts and ways | | 10:20 | Israelites missed the promised land by not seeking God's ways | | 13:30 | Illustrative marriage analogy: Importance of learning someone’s ways | | 15:29 | Adapting to God vs. expecting God to adapt | | 16:35 | Matthew 7:7-8—Ask, seek, knock | | 19:53 | “Need meter” anecdote and spiritual hunger | | 22:05 | Nancy’s personal testimony on pursuing healing in the Word | | 23:34 | Healing testimony: Woman moved states to seek teaching | | 24:53 | Kenneth Hagin’s “It’s all in the book” moment | | 25:17 | Encouragement to seek, hunger for, and search God's Word |

Final Encouragement

Nancy concludes by reiterating:

“Every answer you need—it’s all in the book... we have to be interested enough to get in the book and find out how to cooperate with God, how to move not only with his will, but with his ways.” (24:53–25:50)

This episode challenges listeners to move beyond passive Christianity, to actively seek deeper knowledge of God—His will and His ways—unlocking the fullness of what is available in Christ, and living in sufficiency, partnership, and spiritual effectiveness.