← Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
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Nancy Dufresne
Thank you to Kenneth Copeland Ministries for sowing the airtime for this broadcast.
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There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you. You may be in a sick room, you may be in a hospital room. And I want to remind you, power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what's not. Try to get something, but notice that he's already made it yours. It's present right where you're at. Say I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now.
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Nancy Dufresne
I receive it right now from the.
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Top of my head. From the top of my head. The soles of my feet.
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Nancy Dufresne
The soles of my feet.
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Welcome. We're so glad to have you with us today for Jesus the healer. And we are so enjoying the the series that we've been on called In Christ I Can. And the Spirit of God began dealing with me about this subject because he's even shown me so much more that for us to move further into what God has for us, we have to really gain further revelation of what belongs to us in Christ. Because everything we need to fulfill the plan of God is contained in who we are in him. Spending him, drawing on him and putting him to work for us. What does that mean? That we're to be God inside side minded. And when we recognize who is in us and what he's in us to accomplish, then we, if I could say this, we could we quit struggling to try to make something happen apart from Him. As we've said before, God has authored a plan for the life of each and every one of us. But he never gave us that plan intending that we fulfill it apart from Him. He gave us that plan because he intends to fulfill it through, through us. And I would say this, that's why the plan that he has authored for you is so. It sounds so impossible to you because he intended to do it Himself. And he's the One who makes all things possible. And so if something looks impossible, sounds like it came from God because God intended to include Himself, that He is the laborer. And we are co laborers with God. Now how do we let God manifest through us? We yield to him, we respond to him, and we do that by acknowledging him and obeying Him. You know what a relief it is to get up in the day, in the morning and say, today the greater One's on the inside of me and I'm going to let him manifest and work through me and I'm going to draw On Him. I'm going to yield to Him. We have to remember who's in us, and we have to acknowledge him who is in us. And I have found this out, that if we're struggling with something, many times, it's because we're trying to do it, or we think we have to do it on our own, apart from Him. And when he's involved, all struggle is gone. Now listen to that. When he's involved, we're not struggling to make things happen. Can I say this? I'm not trying to do better. I'm finding out things about the better one in me. Because I have success. You have success not simply because we're good, but because he is so good. And so we're drawing on him who is in us. You know, Jesus made this statement. He said, come unto Me all ye that labor and are heavy laden. So what's that? Let us know he's going to change the flow of our life when we come to him and let him undertake for us. Then he said this. He said, take my yoke upon you, for my yoke is easy and my burden is light. So notice we can pick up the wrong yoke if we're struggling. If something is a difficulty, Are we yoked up with something we shouldn't be yoked up with? How about being yoked up to his plan, Yoked up to his will and his purpose for our life? Because when we put him to work for us, then he will fulfill that plan through us. I mean, Jesus made the statement. He said, my Father, in me, he does the work. So in Christ, there's no struggle, no matter what we're facing. And if we're facing something and we're struggling, we have to correct ourselves and say, wait a minute. I'm not drawing on Me for the success and the victory of this. I'm drawing on the Victor who is in me. And he's already made victory mine. So how many of you know that we're not gonna fulfill the plan of God by trying harder and harder and harder, but we're gonna become more skillful at drawing on the greater one that's on the inside of us, drawing on him who is in us. And I would say this life, since we're born again, life is not about what we're facing. It's about who we're facing. And in Christ, we have a better view that if we're looking to us, we're going to falter in our steps. But if we see him and we hold him in view and we Acknowledge him, then it's going to affect the outcome. When we are to see things as he sees them, we're to see ourselves in Christ, not outside of Christ. We're to see that the greater One is in us to put us over. And if I could say this, we're told in the Scripture, while we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. When we see circumstances, if we're. If we're absorbed at looking at the wrong thing, we can have a sense of being overwhelmed. Well, if we look at the wrong thing, instead of looking at who's in us, keeping our gaze and our attention on the greater one that's in us, that's when we're going to experience the greatest success. I would like to say this. Looking at the wrong thing can take faith out of you. And that's something we need to remember. Because sometimes when God tells us to do something, you know, there are properties that this. That this ministry is believing for, buildings that we're believing for. And if we were to just look at the money, at what it costs, it would take faith out of us. But we're not looking at what it costs. We're looking at who provides. And so it's not about looking out here, it's about who we're looking at, not what we're looking at. And it's not only that way with finances. What about with the physical body? If we just have our attention fixed on what we're feeling, I want you to know, if we're looking at the wrong thing, looking, paying attention to the body, paying attention to symptoms. Now listen, they're going to be felt, but we're going to have to be skillful at looking at who is the helper and the provider and the healer. In the midst of all that, things don't get better by looking at them. Things become better when we look at the One who has already provided for us, the One who is the healer. It all matters where we're looking. And I want you to know that part of faith is having a fixed gaze to what not to look at, but what. Also what to look at, what to consider and what not to consider, what you don't let in your attention and what you set your attention on. One of my absolute favorite passages is Philippians 4, verse 11, and the amplified classic translation, Philippians 4, verse 11. We find this passage that Paul is in prison and he makes a statement. He said, I have learned how to be content. Now look at this. Content doesn't mean Content with something. If something is wrong, if something is off, off course in our life, we're not to just be content with that. But Paul is saying, I've learned how to be content. And he's talking about, I, I'm content in any situation. That doesn't mean I'm content with it. To just keep letting things be out of place. But we're to be content no matter what faces us, no matter what opposes us. It shouldn't destroy our contentedness. Then the amplified says that it goes on and really describes and defines what it means to be content. He said, satisfied to the point where I'm not disturbed or disquieted in whatever state I am now. See, in Christ, what belongs to us is, is the best view. If we're looking at the wrong thing, it can take faith out of us. But if we'll look at the Word, look at what he's provided for us, it will put faith in us. And so just know this. What you're looking at, is it putting something out of taking something out of you, or is it putting something in you? It's the same thing with words, that if we're listening to the wrong words, that it will take faith out of us. But if we're listening to the right words, God's words, it will put faith in us. One of the things that we have to remember is that the Bible says that Abraham is called the father of our faith. And so if we can look at how Abraham, he was taught faith by God himself, and he had to grow and he had to develop in faith. And he. When he was 75, God called him to leave his hometown, to leave his family and follow him to a place, to a land that he was going to give him for him, to him as an inheritance. And so Abraham got up every day without a map, and he just followed God where he told him to go. Listen, following God, he could not be looking at what he left behind. Can I say this? When God delivers you from something, or God puts you in a different location, don't be mindful of where you came out of, because you don't want to be drawn back by some affection to the wrong place. And Abraham did not say, well, you know, my family's been raised here for generations. We've been raised here. The only thing I know is here. I'm not going to leave this place. Well, he would have missed the future. He would have missed what God had for him. But not only did God lead him to a different land, he said, at the age of 75, I'm going to give you a son. Now listen to that. He was past the age of having children. And so was his wife Sarah. And so for 25 years, God had said that at the age of 20, at the age of 75 to Him. And it was 25 years later, before Isaac was born. Now notice. Why is that? Well, Abraham had to learn the process of faith. And I want you to know that faith is how we move with God. Faith is how we receive from God. But we have to recognize that there is a process of learning it. And when we look at the word, we can go to Romans, chapter four. And we can see where Abraham's faith arrived him. And Romans, chapter 4, verse 17. And this is the King James translation. It reads as it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations. Now look at this. God had already made him a father of many nations. Why? Because God said it. When God gives you something and he transmits or he announces to us through words what he has given us, we are to count it completely done. Because once God's given it, it's ours. It's not when it manifests that it's ours. It's when God gives it, that's when it's ours. So God said, I have made thee a father of many nations. Before him whom he believed. Even God, who quickeneth the dead and calleth those things which be not as though they were, who against hope, believed in hope. Look at this. That he might become the father of many nations. I want you to see verse 17 says that God had made him the father of many nations. And then in verse 18 it says the wording that he might become the father of many nations. So God had made him to be something. But it was going to take his faith so he could partake of what God had made him to be. I want you to know in Christ we have been made, Victor. We have been made the head and not the tail above and not beneath. But it's with our faith that we walk out who God made us to be. And Abraham had to do that. Now I want to go back to verse 17 and I want to see this. That this is the way that faith, when it's moving with God. This is what it sounds like. It says that Abraham called those things which be not as though they were. What does that mean? It means before Abraham saw it, he called it done. He called it completed. And when he did that, that's when his body produced and his wife's produced and they had a child 25 years later after God first spoke it. I want you to know that faith calls those things which be not as though they were. Now we know this, that we don't call something unless we believe that something is ours. Now we were talking about in the previous episode that In John chapter 17 and verse 8, Jesus was praying to the Father, and this is right before his exit from the earth. And he said, I have given them words which you have given me, and they have received them. Know this, that Jesus accomplished everything of God's plan through words. He spoke words and Jesus gave us the same words God gave him so that our lives should produce the same thing Jesus life produced because it was all done with words. But look at the next phrase. And they received them. How do we know if we receive what God said if we're calling it, if we're saying the same thing? He did the same thing he said. Now this is what Abraham did. He had to call himself the father of many nations. He had to receive what God said to him. He had to receive it even before he saw it. Do you know? That's how God operates. He says something and then how long you have to say something till you see it. Till you see it come to pass. And so Abraham did that. He called those things which be not as though they were. Do you know that the Bible tells us that Abraham believed what God said? He believed that God was. That God was going to make a great nation of him. He believed that God was going to give him the land to inherit, but he had not. He was missing something in his faith. And what he was missing, he was not yet calling those things which be not as though they were. And so at the age of 99, God, seeing this man's not getting this one element that is so key to faith and that is calling those things that be not as though they were. And so God helped him to be effective by changing his name. His name that was changed from Abram to Abraham was calling. It meant a father of many nations. And so after three months of changing his name. Look at that. Just within three months of changing his name, Sarah becomes pregnant. And within a year, of course, Isaac is a reality in their life. I want you to know that once you start calling and putting the same words in your mouth that God has given us to say that it won't take long for things to begin to manifest. Now I want to say this, that faith calls those things which be not as though they were. Well, what does that mean? The word of God let's just, for example, Matthew 8:17 says this himself took our infirmities and bare our sicknesses. If there's pain or symptoms in your body because you're in Christ, in Christ there is no pain. In Christ there is no sickness. In Christ there are no symptoms. So we are authorized to, since we are in Christ, to call ourselves symptom free, pain free. Even when the body is feeling all kinds of symptoms and may be feeling all kinds of pain. That's what it's meant by calling those things which be not as though they were. We call ourselves pain free in the face of pain. We call our bodies whole. When it looks like they're not working right, we call it as God says it. We don't call it as we see it in this realm. And that's the call of faith. I want you to know, how can we call something that we don't yet see? How can we say that we're healed or that we're provided for when we don't yet see our answer manifested? Well, I want you to know that we as faith people, we're believing words. Well, what does that mean? God deals with us strictly through words. He says something and then when, when our faith is attached to those words, then God is able to bring those words to pass in our life. So we live by words. Before we were born again, we lived by the five physical senses, what we could see, feel, taste, touch, hear, smell. But that's how we lived. But now, once we're born again, ah, now we live by words. Regardless of what we feel, regardless of what we see, regardless of what circumstances show us. We have come into the highest flow of believing words and not just circumstances that surround us. Now God deals with us through words. If we need a miracle, it's going to come through words. If we need healing, it's going to come through words. If we need provision, it's going to come through words. And people will say, you know, it's like, I don't understand. How am I to call something that is not there as though it is there? Well, for example, as we said in Matthew 8:17, when it says himself took our infirmities and bare our sicknesses. Do you know, we weren't there to see when sickness and disease was laid upon Jesus, but God saw it. Not only did God see it, that was God's plan. That Jesus bear the sin, then the sickness and the poverty of all of humanity. So when God says something to us in his word, he is reporting to us what he saw. Listen, God Sits in eternity. What does that mean? He's independent of time. He can look and see the past. He can look and see the present. He can look and see the future. So he can look down any corridor of time of what we see. And he knows exactly what the past, the present and the future look like. And so then he reports back to us what he has seen. And then he reported to us, for example, in Matthew 8:17, himself took our infirmities and bare our sicknesses. We didn't see that. God saw that. So when God records it and he's recording what he saw and he asks us to believe, believe what I saw because he's truthful, he's faithful, he's honest. He's not going to tell us something that isn't true. He saw that. He saw the day that sin was laid on Jesus, sickness laid on Jesus, poverty laid on Jesus, and he bore it. And then he reports back and he says, I saw that. If you'll believe that, and you will believe that because he bore your sickness, that you don't have to bear it. And you say in the face of symptoms, in the face of pain, you say, I believe that my sickness was laid on Jesus because God told me, see, I'm not walking blind. I'm walking by what God saw. And that is what the word of God is. It's a record of the. It's a record of the thoughts of God. It's a record of what God has accomplished through Jesus. It's a record of what belongs to us because we belong to Christ. But we have to receive these words, not dismiss them, but receive them. And that's what Abraham did. He called those things which he didn't see, as though it had come into being. And when, why? Because he's calling it as God sees it. When we agree, when we say, I believe Matthew 8:17, that Himself took our infirmities and bare our sicknesses. I agree with that. I believe that God saw that. And so he's telling me that by the stripes, 1st Peter 2:24. By his stripes I was healed. I wasn't there to see those stripes laid on Jesus, but God saw it. And when those stripes were laid on Jesus, those purchased my healing. And the Father saw it. And he said, by his stripes you were healed. And I say, oh, I agree with that. Instead of agreeing with my body, I agree with, with what God saw and with what God said. And when I agree with him, then his power is able to manifest that this is how Abraham became the father of many nations. He called those things which be not as though they were. Can I tell you this? In Genesis, chapter one, in verse one, it says, in the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form and void. And darkness was upon the face of the deep. And. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Look at this. And God said, let there be light. Now, see, God was seeing darkness, but he didn't say what he saw. He said what he wanted. I want you to know, if you see that the body, your body isn't working right, don't talk what you see. If you want something different, you talk what you want. Because faith will bring what you want into what you see. And God did not get up and say, wow, it's dark out there. No, he got up and he said, let there be light or light be. And he changed what he saw by what he said. I want you to know that's how we get to live as one in Christ. We change what we see by what we say. And Jesus has given us the same words that God gave him. That's what it tells us in John 17, verse 8. That the words that you have given me, I have given to them. And they received them. How do we know if we received them if we're saying the same thing God said? So Jesus showed us that when he came up against something in his earthly ministry that wasn't as he wanted it to be, he spoke what God said. Because that's what God showed us, that when he saw darkness, he said, light. Well, how long do we have to say it, Pastor Nancy? I mean, how long before. Before we quit saying it? Well, Jesus, the word says here in Genesis 1, verse 3, it says, and God said, and there was light. In verse four, it says, and God saw the light, that it was good. Notice this. God said. Then God saw. People want to see before they say, but the order of God and the law of faith is you say it and then you see it. How long do we have to say it? Till we see it, Till it comes into manifestation. That's what Abraham did. That he called himself the father of many nations. And when he did, what he called came into manifestation. But it wasn't enough that God said it about Abraham. Abraham had to agree with God. Abraham had to put God's words in his mouth. And in Christ, what belongs to us is God's words. And when we say what God said, we get the same results of what God said. We have manifestations of the power of God that performs what we say, I want you to know that your answer is in hearing words and speaking words. Not just in any words, but in the words that God said. Because God, he's a faith God and He operates by faith. He speaks faith words and he is showing us how to how to get the same results. Why? Because the faith we have in us, it's God's own faith and that's how it operates, the way God operates it. He says it and then he sees it come to pass. And I want you to know there's nothing around you that you see that you don't want to be that way anymore that can be changed. If you can see it, it's up for change. Why? Because what we see is temporal, but the eternal realm of God, the unseen, is eternal. And so we can talk and say what God says and we can change what we see. And I want you to know our saying of the Word of God belongs to us in Christ. And Christ can't do our saying for us. But as we put our words and bring our words in agreement with God's words, we will have what God says and we will have what we say. Amen. Well, you don't want to miss next time. And until next time, remember this Jesus is the Healer. God bless you you.
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Nancy Dufresne
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Nancy Dufresne
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Nancy Dufresne
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It'S so easy to have your life changed today, and that is that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. So right now, pray it with me. Say Jesus, I receive you as the Lord and the Savior of my life. Thank you for giving me a brand new start and I'll live for you all the days of my life. Amen.
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Nancy Dufresne
If you've received Jesus as your Lord and Savior, contact us and let us know@DefrainMinistries.org JesustheHealer.org or by calling us at 951-696-9258.