← Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
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Thank you to Kenneth Copeland Ministries for sowing the airtime for this broadcast.
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There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you. You may be in a sick room, you may be in a hospital room. And I want to remind you, power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what's not. Try to get something, but notice that he's already made it yours. It's present right where you're at. Say, I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now. I receive it right now from the top of my head. From the top of my head. The soles of my feet. The soles of my feet. Welcome. We're so glad to have you with us today for Jesus the healer. We invite you to get your Bible or get something to take notes on as well and follow along with us because we. We're believing God for clarity for you, for answers for you. And listen, we're all growing up together and we're growing in the knowledge of who we are in Christ. We've been on this series almost a year now, and we've been teaching in Christ. I can. And the big phrase of that is Christ. That's the important word. Because of him, we can fulfill the plan of God because God is the one that who authored the plan, because he intended to fulfill that plan through us. But we have to bring our part, and God will always do his part. On the previous episode, we were looking at John 14:10, and I want us to go back and see this because we see something so critical. The very last phrase of the tenth verse of John 14 says this, that Jesus is speaking of His Father and says, he, he does the works. Now look at that. He said, he does the works. So we see there's a performance of works. But then if we will back up into the first part of that verse, we will see how he does the works. And it says at the first of the verse 10, Jesus said, Believest thou not that I am in the Father and the Father is in me. That's how come he's able to do the works, because they are one together. And then Jesus went on to say the words, that I speak unto you, I speak not of myself. So because Jesus was one with the Father, he got his words from the Father. The Father gave him words, and those words came out of their oneness. And I want you to know that's why Jesus came, so that we could be one with the Father. And since we are one with the Father. The Father's words belong to us. And God has given us his words so that we will speak like Him. And then he can manifest and fulfill those words that are his words. So know this, that when you need a miracle, you're going to have to proceed that with words from God. Because God says something, then he does something. That's the divine order of God. He always says something. Then he fulfills what he says by his power. So when we need the power of God to operate, something has to be said. So it's not just us coming up with words. It's us going to the One that we are one with. And we learn and we hear those words from Him. We speak those words that came from him. Because his power is already living in his words. And he will manifest Himself through those words. But notice this. Jesus declared that I am in the Father. And we need to declare that I am in the Father. This is the great plan of redemption, that we would be one with the Father. That when you saw one, you saw the other. Notice what Jesus said. He said, if you've seen me, you've seen the Father. That's what our lives are to look like that when people see us, they really see the Father. When they hear us, they really hear the Father speaking. When they, when they see our actions, they really see our Father in action. Now that's what we're to. That's really coming to the fullness of who we are in Christ. And so Jesus declared this. He said, I am in the Father. He was establishing this in Himself even more and more. So this wasn't, I guarantee you this wasn't the first time he said it. This is something he meditated on. This is something that was authored in him so that it was no problem for him to go out and speak it in the hearing of others. I am in the Father. And then he made this statement and. And the Father is in me. And this is what made religious leaders mad. They didn't like Jesus being one with the Father in His own thinking. They thought you take too much of yourself. Well, Jesus wasn't making too much of Himself. God made him that. And I want you to know, when we say we are one with the Father, the Father's in us. We're not making too much of ourself. We are coming into what the Father made for us. And he's the One that made us one with him through sending Jesus to pay the price for us. And so Jesus was ever mindful, I am in the Father, he's in me. And now I take his words, I speak his words, and then God does the work of what those words say. Now how easy is that? These miracles came out of Jesus. Jesus awareness of the oneness and the union he had with the Father. Now that's what we need to build in us. The awareness we are one with our Father, that we are not, we are not down here. He's up there and we're trying to get him to send something down to us. No, he's in us. The kingdom of God is in us. The greater one is in us. We are the temple of the Holy Ghost. We are one with the Father. The Father is one with us. And we are. We are living out of that place. We're acknowledging that union. We're not trying to come into union. We acknowledge the union is already something we were born into at the new birth. And so when we are living aware of that union, it's going to affect the outcome of the words of our life. Not only that, it's going to manifest in the fruit of our life. Jesus fellowship with His Father made it easy for others to receive their miracle. Jesus was so aware the Father's in me that when I move the Father, the Father is getting his way through me. When I speak, I'm letting the Father have His way through my words. When we have that same mindset, when we carry that same understanding, the Father's in me, I'm in Him. That takes all the struggle out of it. Listen. When Jesus defeated Satan, he defeated every outflow of Satan. Everything that flows out of Satan is a defeated flow. Depression is a defeated flow. Fear is a defeated flow. Because the source of those things are defeated. Satan himself is defeated. I want you to know sickness and disease is a defeated foe. And whenever it tries to show up, we are to say to it, you are a defeated outflow of your Father, and your Father was defeated. And you are a defeated flow. And that defeated flow cannot reign in the place of me who has been. I've been delivered from the kingdom of darkness, translated into the kingdom of his dear Son. And there is only victory in the flow of that kingdom. And so Jesus lived with this understanding. I'm one with the Father, the Father is one with me. And so where I go, the Father gets his way. The Father is going to. The Father's going to have his way in the body of this person. The Father is going to have his way in the home of this person. Because where Jesus went, the Father went. And I want you to Know where you go, the Father goes. But you have to build that awareness in you. You have to acknowledge that. You have to make that so established in you that when you think of you, you think of the Father. And when you think of the Father, you think of you. And I want you to know, when you see who the Father really is, you're seeing a true picture of you. Think of that, because you are one with Him. So really, to find what we look like, we have to look to the Father because that's. We are made in his image. Amen. So know this. That makes life so simple. All I have to do is obey what I hear, fulfill what I. What the Father directs me to do. Faith is obedience. And acts of obedience are carried out through someone who has faith that I am one with the Father. When the Father tells you to do something, there's no risk because he's the one that intends to do it. There is absolutely no risk to faith. You know, I've heard people say, boy, faith will put you on the edge, but it's the cutting edge, not the jagged edge. It puts you on the front edge of what God is doing. And the only reason. When God tells you to do something and he's letting you know what he's wanting to do through you, so there's no risk to that, you're not putting yourself on the edge. You're putting the Father on the front, on the front course of your life when you obey Him. So you say, well, God told me to give this, or God told me to give that, and that's hard for me to do. No, it's not hard for you to do. He's showing you what he will do through you if you will just fulfill the acts of obedience. Faith is an act of obedience. When we have faith, we're obeying. Understand that God needs our obedience. Why is that? Because he's given us authority to be on this earth. And he's going to bless this earth through us who have the authority upon the earth. So whenever we acknowledge him, we're giving him an avenue to flow through, to manifest and bless in this world. So God's part is power, our part is the obedience of faith. Now know that. The obedience of faith. And it's not just random obedience, but it's not just random acts. It's acts of obedience. What did he tell us to do? So know this. Our success is in knowing what he said to you. Our success is hearing what he says to you. And when I say hearing, I don't necessarily mean Audible words. But you have, you know, on the inside what he's leading you to do, what he's directing you to do, that. That is you following the words of the Father. And then when you. When you obey what those words tell you to do, he gets in those words with his power, and he begins to manifest. Now, I love something that I was reading an older book by Oral Roberts. Now, Oral Roberts, of course, was a key figure in the healing revival. There were several men at the forefront of. Of the healing revival that was on in America in 1947-1958. And there were multitudes of people that attended his tent. Crusades and healings were just abundant throughout his ministry. But one day he was talking about after he had built his ministry headquarters and he built the prayer tower that he had built at his college campus. And he said one day he was up in the prayer tower and he had so many partners that were partnered with his ministry, and they would write him letters of their prayer requests. And he said he was in the. In the partner tower one day, and he was. Had laid out all these letters that his partners had written and that they were expressing such great needs. He said, some of them heartbreaking conditions, all kinds of physical problems, family problems, financial problems. And he said, I had read these heartbreaking stories that people had written to him. And he said, I had these letters laid out, and I'm praying so hard over the letters. He says, I'm praying as hard as I can for my partners. And he said, all of a sudden, the Holy Ghost spoke. And God said to him, don't pray hard. Pray easy. I'm the one that does the work. Now, what does that do that simplifies? I'm one with the Father. The Father's in me. I'm in Him. And it's not a hard flow. It's an easy flow. I want you to know it. Everything you need from God today. It's an easy flow. You say, well, you don't understand, Pastor Nancy. It's been. I've got very serious conditions, very serious circumstances around my life. They're so tangled. They're so complicated. Not on God's part. Everything on God's side is simple. Everything on God's side is so doable, nothing is impossible from his flow. And so likewise, as God said to Oral Roberts, don't pray hard, pray easy. I'm the one that does the work. Well, I want to say it this way. Don't believe hard, believe easy. God's the one that does the work. Believing is not A labor believing is not a hardship because we're reminding ourselves, he's the One working through me. I'm one with the Father. He's one with me. It's not something I earn and it's something. It's not something that I need to achieve. It's something I simply receive. No wonder Jesus said, come unto me all ye that labor and are heavy laden. What does he say? I'll give you rest. He didn't say, I'll make it harder for you. I'll give you a flow that you're going to struggle with. You think you've struggled before, you're going to struggle now? Nope. The struggle. Life is over with when we come to Him. Why? Because I'm in the Father, he's in me. And I'm putting Him to work for me. How do we do that? We acknowledge Him. We have to say, father, you're in Me today. You're leading Me today. You're guiding me. And I hear from you what I need to know. I hear what I need to see. I see what I need to do. You show me. And if you will go at it from that approach instead of saying, I don't ever hear from God. I struggle to know what he wants me to do. No, you say, the Father's in me. I'm in Him. And because of that, I success is in me. I'll know exactly what I need to do. I love something that Smith Wigglesworth said. Now, he was an English preacher that was on the forefront in the first half of the 1900s. And I love this statement. Listen to what he said. He said, God delights to give liberally all the inheritance of life and strength and power that you're in need of. Look at that. He delights to do it. Why, he's already made it your inheritance. Do you know? He's already made Himself yours. The wonderful thing about it is God belongs to us and we belong to Him. And it wasn't that did not come at our begging. That came out of his plan. He planned it all, that I want to belong to them because I want them to belong to me. So that's why he had to become man. Because for us to be like him, he had to become like us. And so Jesus, God in the flesh, taking on the form of man so that we could be like Him. He became like us. And I want you to know that the devil wants to try to portray troubling circumstances as a hard, big thing you've got to overcome with a lot of stuff. And it's going to. You're going to have to believe so hard and you're going to have to believe so long. No, faith is easy for the one who knows they're in union with God. And that's why I say that when we find out who we are in Christ, it brings us into the highest order of faith. Because we realize faith is so easy. Because it's the Father in me and I in him. And I don't have to become that. I am made that. I was born that way at the new birth. It's not something I achieve, it's something I receive. And I acknowledge that every day. Now, the more I acknowledge that the Father's at work in me, the more he'll be at work in me. If I ignore that and I don't partake of that, then I'm going to have all ability sitting in me, dormant, inactive. But we're not to being active. We're to acknowledge the greater one that's in us. But what the devil wants to do, he wants to try to paint that circumstances that come against your life are a big deal. How many times people look at what they're facing and go, oh, that's so big to get past. Jesus already put you past it. Get a load of that one. Jesus already put you past it because he was crucified, buried, raised from the dead, seated at the right hand of the Father above all principality, power, might and dominion. You are past it. So when a circumstance shows up, you're to say, I'm already past you. I don't care how long you think you're going to stay here, but I know this of a truth. I am already on the other side of you because Jesus put me there. Now I'm going to walk that out. I'm going to live like that, think like that and talk like that. And I refuse to call opposing circumstances a big deal. I want you to know financial problems are not a big deal. I want you to know that symptoms are not a big deal. Pastor Nancy, you don't understand. I have been diagnosed with a serious condition. Not a big deal. Can I tell you what's a big deal? Jesus defeated Satan. That's the big deal. Jesus is the healer. That's the big deal. The big deal is what? The victory that was won for you. The the enemy is not a big deal. What he opposes is not a big deal. And you have to quit calling opposition from the enemy a big deal. Because the devil is no big deal. I want you to know what the Big deal is the price Jesus paid for your victory. There's the big deal. It cost heaven everything. That's a big deal. Can I tell you this? The devil didn't pay anything to tear down. People with absolutely no skill can tear down anything. You think about it, there may be people that in a society, for some reason they're going out and they're riding and doing something and they tear down maybe a structure, they tear down a statue or they tear down a building, maybe a convenience store. They tear down something. Do you know it took no skill to do that. You didn't have to have any wisdom to do that. You didn't have to have any kind of excellence to do that. Anybody can tear down something. It takes excellence and it takes wisdom to build something. The devil hasn't ever built anything. He's only ever tore down everything he's ever touched. So anything he does is not a big deal. Because anybody can do what he does. It takes no ability, it takes no genius. Any old body can tear down something, but it takes somebody of honor, it takes somebody of skill, someone of wisdom, someone of excellence to build something. And God has never done anything but build. And I want you to know he's still building you. He's building your life. He's building the plan of God through your life. So we are not to call any opposition a big deal. No financial problem is a big deal. The big deal is we have a provider. The big deal is we have a healer. The big deal is it costs the blood of Jesus. And that's the only big deal I know about. And that's the only big deal worth being enthralled with. We're to talk about the big deal of Jesus blood, the big deal of my healing, the big deal of my provision, the big deal of my victory, and every other thing is a failing foe. Anything that came out of the devil. Satan is a defeated foe. And everything he touches is a defeated flow. And you are to say that financial problem is a defeated foe. Those symptoms are a defeated flow. I am in the winning flow because everything Jesus purchased for me, it was at a great price. And that's what determines whether or not something is a big deal. The price of it. And it was Jesus blood that was the price for our redemption. The price to make us one with the Father. So we are authorized right now. No matter what circumstance you're facing, you start seeing it as, this is no big deal. This problem is no big deal. Just because it looks complicated on your end, it's not complicated. On God's end, it is so simple on God's side. So you are to say this is no big deal. The healing, that's mine. That's the big deal. The victory, the wholeness that belongs to me. That's the big deal. The answer, the wisdom of God, the Holy Ghost leading me, that's the big deal. I am led into complete victory because all of heaven is moving in my behalf. Quit giving attention to a defeated foe. Anytime that we encounter, have any encounter with the devil, we are to already look at that as this is a defeated. This is a defeated foe we're encountering too many times. People think of the devil as some great big fellow and God is some little bitty fella. I mean, and what is it they have not established how great the power is that's working for us? How great. Listen, when it says that Jesus was raised and seated. Look at this. Far above all principality, power, might and dominion. Not barely above, far above. I want you to know that, that your victory is far above circumstances. Your healing is far above symptoms, your provision is far above lack. Your wisdom from God is far above the troubling of your circumstances. The devil is no close second. He's not anywhere near the victory and the success that heaven made ours. We are far above, seated with Jesus in heavenly places. So from now on we need to say this problem that I'm facing. No big deal. The victory, that's mine. There's the big deal. The big deal is working for me. The little deal, the no big deal is falling away from my life because I'm a partaker of the big deal that Jesus won for me. Amen. I want you to know, it says in Ephraim, Ephesians 1:19, that you may know the exceeding greatness of God's power. To us, Ward, who believe. Now notice adjective heaped upon adjective to describe the greatness of God's power. The exceeding greatness that God's power exceeds every other, every other power of opposition. God's power exceeds the power of symptoms, it exceeds the power of pain, it exceeds the power of lack. Because we have an exceeding greater power that's for us, not just barely above, but exceedingly above all the opposition. So it says again in Ephesians 1:19, that you may know the exceeding greatness of his power. God's power. Look at this. To us, Ward, to who believe. It's our believing that activates this exceeding great power to work in our behalf. Well, if we believe it, we're saying it. And if we believe it, we're acting it. Believing is not simply a thought process. It's what you say and it's what you do. Believing is to have a saying. Believing is to have a doing. And so we don't just. We don't just wish for something. We say something and we do something. So God's resurrection power, because this is really, in Ephesians 1:19, what power it's referring to, it's the same power that raised Jesus and seated him at the right hand of the Father. That was resurrection power. That you may know the exceeding greatness of the resurrection power of God that is working in your behalf when you believe God. And I want you to know resurrection power will raise up anything that's dead. Resurrection power will restore anything that's lost. And you are authorized every single day to say, I'm living off resurrection power. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not awed or I'm not impressed, and I'm not occupied with opposing power because resurrection power is what I'm a partaker of today. And it. And it brings anything that it brings any dead thing back to life. It restores anything that's broken. And can I tell you this? Take that resurrection power and do repair work on your body. Take that resurrection power and do repair work on your finances. Take that resurrection power and do repair work on your family and on your children. That resurrection power has raised and seated us, and it will elevate us above any opposition. But we have to quit thinking in wrong terms and giving the devil credibility he doesn't deserve, because what he does is no big deal. Because Jesus is the big deal. His blood is the big deal. And he brought us into the flow of the big deal. Amen. And so you can, you're authorized to say, my healing is a big deal today. My victory is a big deal today. What I'm partaking of from God is a big deal today. And what the devil tries to do is no big deal. And it's swallowed up in the big deal of God's blessings. Amen. Well, we're so glad that you were able to join us today. And you don't want to miss next time because we're going to continue in this series called In Christ I Can. Why is that true? That in Christ I can? Because we're one with the Father. He's one with us, and we are one with Him. And so when we move, he's moving. When we are, when we're speaking, it's his words we speak. And that puts us right on top. Amen. Well, until next time, remember this Jesus is the Healer. God bless you.
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We'Re excited to announce a new worship album called in youn Glory by Grant Dufresne. For more ways to listen to in youn Glory, scan the QR code on your screen.
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He's my comforter, my counselor, advocate and intercessor, My strengthener and standby. He's my help. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us at defrainministries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, submit a prayer request or visit our online store. Thank you to the friends and partners of Dufresne Ministries for making this production possible.
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This is Nancy Dufresne and I want to extend an invitation to you to become a partner with Dufresne Ministries today. God bless you.
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It'S so easy to have your life changed today and that is that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. So right now, pray it with me. Say Jesus, I receive you as the Lord and the Savior of my life. Thank you for giving me a brand new start and I'll live for you all the days of my life. Amen.
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If you've received Jesus as your Lord and Savior, contact us and let us know@DefrainMinistries.org jesusthehealer.org or by calling us at 951-696-9258.
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Join us for our Jesus the Healer Crusade in High Springs, Florida at Impact Family Church with Pastors Greg and Amy Anderson. March 1st through the 5th, 2026 services begin Sunday at 6pM and continue through Thursday at 10aM and 7pM for more information and to register for in person attendance, please visit our website at dufrainministries. Org.