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Thank you to Kenneth Copeland Ministries for sowing the airtime for this broadcast.
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There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you. You may be in a sick room, you may be in a hospital room. And I want to remind you, power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what's not. Try to get something, but notice that he's already made it yours. It's present right where you're at. Say I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now. I receive it right now from the top of my head. From the top of my head. The soles of my feet. The soles of my feet. Welcome. We're so glad you're with us today for Jesus the Healer. Come on in. We are looking forward to spending some time with you around the Word. And we're so grateful that you're hungry for the Word. And as we, as we study the Word together, I want you to know it is going to take our life and put it on course, not just to be hearers, but to be doers of the Word. We are in the midst of a series that we've been on for about a year now and it's called In Christ. I can. And I want you to know that because he's in us and we're in him, all the best belongs to us. And really that's really who we are, is who we are in Christ. When we find out what we look like in Christ and what we can produce because we're in Christ, it gives us the best life. And how many of you know, when we establish in us who we are in him, that does away with all self image issues because the true us is what we are in him and who we are in Him. I want us to look at starting at John 14:10. This is something that Jesus declared when he was here on earth and he said, believest thou not that I am in the Father and the Father in me? Listen, Jesus had to establish this in Himself. Jesus had to find Himself in the Word and establish that in Him. And I want you to know you're going to find the real you in the Word. When you find out who he is, you really find out who you are. Now listen to that. When you find out who he is, you really find out who you are, because you have been made one with the Father. It wasn't just Jesus who was who is one with the Father. He brought us into sonship so we could declare the same thing that I am in the Father and the Father is in me. So notice Jesus took this public. He declared it, he established this in Himself. And I want you to know, it's so important that you establish that in you that you begin to declare, I'm in the Father and the Father's in me. And when you. When you hold to that, it's going to affect the way you respond to things. It's going to affect how you see yourself. It's going to affect really what you learn to acknowledge throughout the day. The greater One is on the inside of us. And the treasure box of heaven, who is Jesus, is on the inside of us. But when do we become a partaker of all that he is in us? When we begin to acknowledge it. When we began by saying that the greater one's in me today because the greater One is in Me. All he is is in me. His strength, his ability, his power, his wisdom, his life, the victory that he made mine, it's all in me today. And I want you to know that in him is wholeness. In him is power. And so in you is wholeness. In you is power. And in the face of circumstances that would tell you otherwise, talk about who you are in Him. Don't talk about the circumstances that are against you. You know, I was thinking about that this morning, but as I was getting ready to come in here, I was thinking about. It's so important what we're acknowledging, because what we're acknowledging is what goes into our soul. And I've noticed this. Have you ever noticed that if you look, if God's telling you to do something and it involves money, if you look at the money, it'll take faith right out of you. But if you look at the provider who's in you, it'll put faith in you. Now, if we look at. Go with me, if you would, to second Corinthians, chapter four in verse 18, two Corinthians four, verse 18, the King James translation. Paul's writing. And he said this. While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. So notice. Aren't you thankful that the Word tells us even where to look? Why? Because when we look at Christ, when we look at the Word, when we look at who we are in Christ, we see a better view. He is the best view. When we look at us, we sink low. If we'll keep focused on him, who he is in us, keep focused on the Word, we rise to that level. And so we're Told while we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. Why is that? For the things which are seen are temporal. That means they're subject to change. But the things which are not seen are eternal. That means they're not going to change. And I've noticed this. When God has commanded something in my life, it matters what I'm looking at because that will affect my faith and it will affect my obedience. When the Word says, while we look not at the things which are seen, then it becomes a sin to look at what is seen. Why? Because the Word tells us not to look there and to disobey the Word While we're looking at what is seen. What is seen? Circumstances, feelings, things that are around us, that which we can see, feel, hear, touch, taste, all of these five senses. The Bible, the Word tells us, don't look at those things. Why? There's a penalty at looking at those things. What is the penalty? It'll take faith right out of you. You look at the natural arena and it will rob you of faith. But if you will look at who you are in Christ, look at who he is in you. Look at what God says in His Word and hold your attention there. Acknowledge that which is in you. Acknowledge what he's made yours. Acknowledge who you are in Christ. That will put faith in you. Looking at what's eternal will put faith in you. Looking at what's temporal will take faith out of you. So it's so important that when God gives us something to obey, it matters that we don't look at this natural arena. As I said, if God tells you to do something that involves money, if you look at the money, it'll take faith out of you. What do you do? You look at what God said. Now, right now, just like any other ministry, we need buildings, we need properties, we need all kinds of equipment. And right now we're in the midst of pursuing a couple of different properties. Well, when they, they, you know, you ask the seller, what's the price? Well, you know, we don't have that, that amount ready to us in hand, but it really doesn't matter what the price is. What matters is what did God say about that property? What did God say about that building? And so I was discussing it with my son because we're making right now to purchase some more property and a building. And in talking about it, he said, mom, what about this and what about that? I said, son, I don't even think about that. I don't let my mind touch into that because I cannot afford to let my faith look at the money. I can't afford to let my faith look at all the circumstances that surround that, or I'll be tempted to step back. I'm not going to step back. And the only way to not step back is I have to keep looking at what God said. Anytime the temptation to look at something natural shows itself, I immediately go back. What did God say to me? God said that property is ours. That's the way I have to answer everything that I see in this realm. When they talk about the price of it and whether or not I have it in the account or whether I don't have it in the account, I don't look at that. It's. I look at God said that property is ours, and that's what I have to hold to. Did you know in Christ what belongs to you is what God said? What belongs to you is not the natural. The natural is subject to change based on what God said. So if you're going to obey God, if you're going to live the life God authored for you, if you're going to live as one in Christ, you cannot let anything else but what God said hold your attention. If you look at something different than what God said, it will take faith out of you. Now, now let's take that over into the physical arena. If you're going to look at the symptoms, it'll take faith out of you. Have you ever noticed that when you're mindful of your symptoms, you're checking your body, you're checking to feel this part of the body. Is it any different today? Every bit of that takes faith out of you. People struggle when they look at the temporal. But your faith will soar when you're occupied with that which is eternal, when you're occupied with the word of God, when you're occupied with what God said. I remember something God gave me back. In 2015, I ended up purchasing the vacation home of Amy Semple McPherson. Now, she was an evangelist that was on the forefront here in America in the early. In the early half of the 1900s. And when God said that, I was at a place financially, that made no sense for me to purchase another home. I have a lovely home. My joy seemed to be full in that home. But when I saw this other home of Amy Simple McPherson's vacation home, it wasn't for sale. But God said to me, I'm going to give you that home. And so I was in the midst of finishing all kinds of different projects that my husband had started. Then he went home to be with the Lord and left eight projects. They were partially done. And so that first year, God enabled us, after my husband's homegoing, to finish all those eight different projects and to pay for them. And so in the midst of this, God said to me, I'm going to give you that home. And I said, God, I said, there's so much on my plate right now. I said, there are so many financial responsibilities facing me, millions of dollars that's due, all kinds of changes, all kinds of transition happening now. And God is talking to me about a home that really, to me, it wasn't necessary to my existence. It would be enjoyable, but it wasn't necessary per se. And I realized this, that God delights at commanding something of us at the most inopportune time. Because then everybody knows this wasn't me that brought this to pass, this was God bringing it to pass. And I want you to know that in Christ what belongs to you is the impossible made possible. And this is where what Jesus earthly ministry demonstrated all the time, the impossible made possible because he was one with the Father. And everything that God commands of your life is completely impossible to you, but completely possible through him working in you. And so I said to God, when he told me, he said, I'm going to give you that home. I said, father, I have a little bit of money here. If I take this money and I buy that home, I'm not really buying a home, I'm buying a renovation. I'm buying a need for more money. And I said, is it really wise as a widow for me to take what I have and to buy another project that's just going to keep demanding more and more and more of me? And what he answered to me, I so appreciate it because it's marked me for really all the things that I do now in obeying the plan of God. But he said, the money is for the plan. Then I got it. I was being money minded. And he wanted me to, he wanted me to be plan minded. This is what when it says, while we look not at the things which are seen, don't look at the money, look at the plan, look at what isn't seen. And so that redirected how I led the ministry and how every, how my approach is to everything that God commands of me, I have to keep my eyes on the plan. Not on the cost, not on all the circumstances surrounding the plan. I just keep my eyes on the plan. In this, this one property that we're currently we're pursuing to purchase it. It's a building with a little bit of property with it. And in talking to my, one of my sons, he said, mom, there's so much connected with this. And he said, what are we going to do about this? And what are we going to do about that? And I said, I'm not touching that in my thought life. The only thing I can touch right now is what God said. And God said to get that building this year. He didn't tell me, he didn't say anything about the financial side. And so I don't, I don't bring up what God doesn't bring, said get it this year. So that means I'll take any step necessary to get that property this year. That's what he said. I don't trouble my life by touching into things God didn't bring up. I don't trouble my life by looking at circumstances that surround a particular project. I just keep with the plan. And I told my son, don't ask me those questions because it will draw me into the natural arena. And I can't go there. I need my faith to not be touching the natural. My faith has to touch into the faith arena. I have to keep occupied with what God said, don't bring up the natural arena. To me. My faith is dependent on staying out of the natural arena. I cannot look at the things around me and stay in faith. That's what it says in Second Corinthians 4:18. While we look not at the things which are seen, the reason people step back from the plan of God for their life is they're occupied with the details that would surround that plan. And they're occupied with circumstances. They look at the money, they look at the, they look, well, this person couldn't do it and they tried my, you know, how am I going to build this? How am I going to start this business? God's maybe told you to start a business. You said, how am I going to start the business? I don't have the money, I don't have the know how. You just start with what God said. God said to start this business. And every time you're faced with the decision say God said to start this business. And that's how you look at every circumstance with what God said. You don't let the circumstance counsel what God says. You let what God says counsel the circumstance. Does that make sense to you? It matters how you look at it. It matters the approach. And I told my son, I know these situations and these circumstances around the purchase of this building, decisions have to be made, but they don't have to be made right now. So I'm not going to touch it right now. I'm going to go with the decision right in front of me, and I'm going to tell what God said. God said, get the building this year. So however I have to do it, I'm going to get that building this year. That's what God said. And I'm not going to be occupied with all the details of it, because that will get me looking at what is seen. And there's a penalty for looking at what is seen. It'll take faith right out of you. When you're believing God for a physical miracle, if you're going to be occupied with the symptoms, if you're going to be occupied with what the doctor said, then you're going to struggle with your faith. Because symptoms, looking at symptoms, being occupied with symptoms, talking about symptoms, is going to take faith right out of you. When I'm believing God, I don't look at my symptoms because I need to have my faith flourishing. And so what do I do? I look at what God said. What did God say to me? And this is what faith does. It looks at what God says and holds to it. We have no room when we're believing God for a miracle, for anything except what God says. I don't have room in my attention for natural circumstances. When I'm holding to what God says. When I'm believing God for money and I'm believing God for miracles and I'm believing God for manifestations, I got to stay out of what is seen. I can only stay fixed on what is unseen, because that's where my peace lives, that's where my joy lives, and that's where my faith will thrive. When I keep my attention on who I am in Christ, when I keep my attention on what God said, my faith will flourish. And that is the reward of looking at the unseen. When I look at what is seen, there's a penalty, and it takes faith out of me. Listen, when we started on this series, it began with what God said to me. He reminded me of Brother Copeland's testimony. How in the early 1970s, when brother and Sister Gloria Copeland were just learning the truths of prosperity, they were in debt themselves. They saw no way of getting out of that debt. And God spoke to them and said, I want you to sow $50,000 to Kenneth Hagin's ministry. Well, Brother Copeland could have looked at his own resources and he would have known. I don't Even have the money to pay off my own debt, much less a gift the size of $50,000. That's a large amount today, but over 50 years ago, that is such a large amount. But if he's going to look at the natural, it'll take faith right out of him. If he was going to look at the finances, it would take faith right out of him. And if he was going to look at his finances to find his answer, the answer would be no. But the skill of Brother Copeland that day was in Christ I have it, and in Christ I can give it. That was his answer. He did not go to himself to find his answer. He went to who he was in Christ. He went to the Christ in him to find his answer. When you're looking at things that are temporal, you're looking at the natural arena. You'll never find the right answer. But if you'll look at who you are in Christ and you'll look at the unseen, that's where the right answer lives. And that's where you're going to have to be occupied if you're going to complete what God called you to do. Now think about it. Jesus was in his own hometown of Nazareth. He's preaching. He had just come from raising Jairus daughter from the dead. So he comes into his own hometown, coming from a place where resurrection power was in manifestation. And as a minister, we know this. When you go from one meeting to another meeting, the degree of that anointing just keeps building, meeting after meeting. And there are days, it seems like if I've been ministering for days in a row, the anointing will abide on me. I'm talking about the anointing to minister. That anointing upon will be so tangible and obvious. It doesn't just stop the moment you walk out of the pulpit. It will linger upon you for a while. And it will, if I will say, dissipate a little bit over time if you're not in the pulpit much. But, brother, when Jesus was ministering to Jairus daughter, he stepped into resurrection flow, and Jairus daughter was raised from the dead. Jesus is still under that. That anointing when he goes to his own hometown. And so what is it? They could have received a resurrection power from him. And he's. He's declaring God's word to him. He said, the spirit of the Lord's upon me. He's anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor. And they said, what works are these that are done by his hands? What is that? Evidently he's giving testimony of what that power has done in other places. But they wouldn't believe it for themselves. And so not only would they not receive, not only were they dishonorable toward him. They said, well, who is he? We know. I mean, we know his family, we know his brothers, his sisters. He's just a mere man. But when the anointing is on you, you're not a mere man. You're a man from another world. And Jesus came with, with resurrection power, healing power, miracle working power that God wanted to perform through him for this, for his hometown. And they wouldn't receive it because they dishonored him. And because they dishonored him, they were in unbelief. Because anyone in dishonor is not in faith. They will always find themselves in unbelief when they. When they step into a flow of dishonor. And so not only that, they were angry to hear Jesus speak these words. It says that after Jesus finished this sermon to them in that hometown, it says they took him to the brow of the hill. They intended to push him off a cliff. Only devils can make you that crazy that you hear a sermon preached and you're trying to kill the preacher over it. Notice this. The response of his hometown was trying to kill him. Because he announced the spirit of the Lord's upon me, because he's anointed me. And then he told them what he was anointed to do. What was that? That wasn't just the people. That was the devil so stirring up the people. And the devil is so afraid of the anointing. I want you to know, in Christ, what is this? What is this word Christ? It means. It means the anointing and the Anointed One. I want you to know you are one with the anointing. You are one with the anointed One. The devil doesn't want you to know that because he fears the anointing. Why does he fear the anointing? Because it's the anointing that destroys the yoke. And when Jesus was in his hometown and he was announcing to them, the spirit of the Lord is upon me because he's anointed me. That made hell tremble, that made. That made Satan tremble. And so he stirred up the people to try to get Jesus to stop preaching that message. He tried to intimidate Jesus by the people rising up against him, taking him to the edge of the cliff, intending to push him off. But the King James said he passed through the middle midst of them. Another translation, another translation said he Disappeared and showed up in another city. What's this mean? They were not able to touch him. Why is that? Because he was not intimidated by the response of the people who were operating off this natural arena. Listen. Jesus told dad Hagin. Now, dad Hagin, Kenneth Hagin was a spiritual father to my husband and I for decades. And in one vision that dad Hagin had, when Jesus appeared to him, Jesus said, that wasn't just what I preached in my own hometown. He said that was the first message I preached in every city. I declared to the people, the spirit of the Lord is upon me because he's anointed me. And then he told him why he was anointed. He said I had to let the people know the anointing was upon me so that they would have. They would release their faith to receive of that anointing. So what was it? The devil did not want Jesus preaching that again. Can you imagine? Jesus preaches in his own hometown. I'm anointed. The spirit of God has anointed me. The response to that was they tried to push him off a cliff. And Jesus said, I know what I'm going to preach the next time I go to the next city. And he preached that in every city he went to. Notice this. The devil was trying to heighten circumstances so he would not deliver the message he was to deliver. I want you to know it matters that you not be moved by circumstances trying to push you off the plan of God for your life. Jesus would not be moved. Even though the people responded in a violent manner against him. He was undisturbed and he was unmoved. Why do we know that? Because he was not looking at what was seen. He was going by what the plan of God was. And the plan of God was he'd go and declare into every city that I'm anointed by the spirit of God to bring, to bring healings, miracles to pass for those people. Well, I want you to know Jesus fulfilled the plan of God because he did not look at what he saw. If he was going to look by what, what he had seen and be moved by that, he would have never preached that same sermon again. That's. That's exactly what the devil intended by raising up or stirring up those people. And, you know, he wanted to intimidate him. Don't let money intimidate you. Don't let price intimidate you. Don't let symptoms intimidate you. Don't let what you feel, don't let what you hear or see intimidate you because the plan of God does not quake and shiver in the face of what those intimidations try to say to you. Listen, the plan of God will hold you steady if you'll stay with the plan of God. The word of God will hold you certain and immovable if you'll stay with the with the word of God. But if we're going to look at what is seen, it'll take faith out of us. But if we'll keep, if we'll keep looking at what God said, it will put faith in us. Now many times people start looking at the circumstances around them because they're going by the calendar, they're going by the clock. How come it's not coming to pass? What's taking so long? That's called looking at what you see. Faith doesn't care about the clock and faith doesn't care about the calendar. Faith only cares about what God said. And when God said to me, he said about getting purchasing that home of Amy McPherson, he said, the money is for the plan. So what did that mean? He was telling me you're looking at the wrong thing. Don't talk about the cost, don't talk about the expense. Talk about the plan. You'll never fulfill the plan. Talking about the circumstances around the plan. You'll never fulfill the plan. Letting money intimidate you and price intimidate you. You'll only fulfill the plan by talking about the plan. That means we're not to be need minded, we're not to be price minded, we're to be plan minded. Whatever God says, that's what we're going to do. And Jesus got up and he would say this. He said, my means the thing that nourishes me, my meat is to do the will of him that sent me and finish his work. Jesus didn't care about the opposition that rose up against him because he was plan minded. All he was occupied with was what God told him to do. And I want you to know in Christ there is a call on your life. There's a plan for your life and God expects us to feel it. And not only that, he fills us with himself so he can perform it through us. And all it is waiting for is our obedience of faith. And you can fulfill the plan of God as you move with what he tells you to do. Amen. Well, you don't want to miss next time. And until next time, remember this, Jesus is the healer. God bless you.
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My comforter, My counselor, advocate and intercessor, My strengthener.
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I want you to know that every single person in this world needs a Savior. And the greatest thing of all is that we have one. But this Savior must be welcomed. This Savior must be received. And it's so easy to receive Jesus as the Savior. The Word says that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. So right now do that with me. Say, Jesus, I receive you as my Savior. Come into my heart and be the Lord of my life and I'll live for you all the days of my life. God bless you.
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