← Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
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Thank you to Kenneth Copeland Ministries for sowing the airtime for this broadcast.
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There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you. You may be in a sick room, you may be in a hospital room. And I want to remind you, power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what's not. Try to get something, but notice that he's already made it yours. It's present right where you're at. Say I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now.
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I receive it right now.
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From the top of my head. From the top of my head. The soles of my feet.
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The soles of my feet.
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Welcome. We're so glad to have you with us today for Jesus the Healer. We invite you to take notes on something that you're going to hear today because we believe that God is giving you answers for your daily life. And so we're delighted to continue in the series we've been on called In Christ I Can. When we realize and recognize and discover all that belongs to us because we belong to Christ, I want you to know that's the end of a life of struggle. We're not carrying out the plan of God simply by our own self effort, but we have the greater one on the inside of us who is in us to perform and to fulfill through us everything he authors for us. But we have to bring our faith, we bring our obedience, and we're learning to put him to work for us. Listen, if we don't put him to work for us, then all we're going to do is struggle in ourselves to try to fulfill what we're born for. And that's not enough because he authored a plan for our life that calls for his involvement. And when we involve him and we draw on him, then we can, we can fulfill everything he authored for us. And know this, that God will not move and manifest in our life uninvited that he is so honorable. He's the perfect gentleman and he waits for faith to invite Him. We were referring to Isaiah 40:31 on the previous episode where it says they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength. They shall mount up with wings as eagles. Now notice this spending time in the presence of God. What happens? We come into an exchange of strength. That his divine strength begins to flow into us and we are to move and operate from his strength. When it says that they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength. The Hebrew, because the Old Testament was Originally written in Hebrew, the Hebrew word for renew is exchange. That those that wait upon the Lord shall exchange their human strength for divine strength. And then what happens under that divine strength? They will mount up. They will come into a higher flow. What is that? Operating in the spirit. They're not just operating on a human level, they're not operating on a mental level. They're not just operating at the men, at the level of self will and self effort, but they come into a higher flow. And notice this, that when they mount up with wings as eagles because they've been waiting in his presence, then the next thing is demonstrated. They shall run and not be weary. They shall walk and not faint. If people are fainting, if they're not really in full strength and moving with the plan of God, they're doing it from a lower place. We're invited to come into a higher place of spending time in his presence. And we put him to work for us as we acknowledge Him. I was talking on the previous episode about something that God had said to me years and years ago. He said, start every day in the Spirit and then keep your heart turned toward me all day long. So we're to start our day with awareness of Him. That can be done just by simply worshiping Him. That can be done by feeding on the Word. That can be done by praying in the Spirit. There's not just one approach of making us ourselves aware. But I would say this. Never let it become stagnant and become rigid in how we cooperate with him or spend time in fellowship. The Spirit will lead us in ways and in times of fellowship with the Father, but we have to make Him a priority. Remember what it says in Matthew 6:33. Seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. All what things? The things you need for your daily life. So we spend time with God so that when we go out and leave that place of devotion, that we go out through the rest of the day operating from that place of union with the Father. The Word tells us in John 14:10, Jesus made this statement. He said, believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father is in me? The words that I speak unto you, I speak not of myself, but the Father that dwelleth in Me. He doeth the works. So notice, before Jesus ever talked about the works that was done, it was because he had made himself mindful. He lived aware. I'm one with the Father and the Father is one with me, and it affects my words and so When I am speaking words that come from my Father, then God's power can get in those words. And works are done, people are healed, people are restored, people are rescued in their life. And it was all because out of his union with the Father, no amount of work for God will take the place of fellowship. God, that if we're not careful, we can get so busy doing the work of what we're born for and leaving out the real joy in the fellowship of the One who is the source of every good thing. I had quoted something that George Mueller had written. Now, George Mueller was a minister in the 1600s, and he had an orphanage. Not 1600s, 1800s, but he had an orphanage as well. He was a minister, he pastored, he had many arms of ministry that he fulfilled. And at one, at the time of his death, there were over 2,000 orphans that was cared for by him and those who worked alongside of him completely by faith. And he wrote to a man named Hudson Taylor, who was a missionary to China, who changed that nation. And George Mueller reminded him of something. He said, I have, in my own experience, found it of the utmost moment to. To make the care of my own soul the chief business of my life, abundant as my work is. So much so that if I had strength to work 24 hours a day, I would not accomplish everything that is ready for my hands and feet and head and heart. Yet, with all this, I consider my first business to be and my primary business day by day, to get blessing for my soul, food for my own soul to be happy in the Lord, and then to work and to work with all diligence. Then he writes to Hudson Taylor, now, in your case, with all the many millions of the unsaved around you, the temptation is to be overpowered by the immense quantity of work to be done to the not minding sufficiently of your own soul. But this would only lead to loss. No amount of work can make up for the neglect of meditation in the Word of God and for the neglect of prayer. Moreover, it is not the amount of work we do at which our Heavenly Father looks, but the Spirit in which we do his work. Now, this right state of heart which we need for this we can only enjoy by seeking to. To feed our own soul through meditation on the Word of God. We should therefore, habitually and prayerfully as much as possible in the early part of the day, read with meditation the Holy Scriptures and seek with reference to our own individual necessities to enter into being doers of what we read. There is great temptations for the preachers of the Gospel to read the Scriptures with reference just to others, to neglect their own souls. And this is greatly to be guarded against. For if we read the Scriptures without reference to our own soul, primarily we lose the blessing God has for us, which God meant to convey thereby to our hearts. So basically what he's saying, this is this. Don't neglect your time of fellowship with the Lord in the Word, but also in acknowledging and spending time in his presence. Because that's what waters all the work we're to do. And too many times, I mean, it's so easy to recognize there's a lot to get done, but the most important work that we get done is putting our Father's, our awareness on our Father. And I want you to know, this is what Jesus did. He said, I'm in the Father, the Father's in Me. And that's what governed everything of his day. I would like to read to you another passage. This is written by a minister friend of mine and really they didn't write it. This is something that they preached on and I took it down and I'm going to share it with you. They made this statement. You'll be changed in my presence, says the Lord. But if you have not experienced change in your life, if your old ways are still prevailing, if the old man is still in evidence, you have not spent time with me that I desire. It isn't a matter of self control or disciplining your flesh with no help from me, saith God. If you'll spend time in my presence, you'll be changed. Your pattern of life will be changed. Your old man will. You will see that he has passed away. Your new man will begin to rise in the image of my son. Your life will begin to bear much fruit. The evidence of your walk with me will change as a result of spending much time in my presence. If you're having trouble overcoming an old habit, you're not spending the time with me that would enable that change to come to pass. Your desire and the motivation of your heart to walk uprightly before me is a product of becoming so close to me that you don't want to bring hurt to me. Fellowship with me will shape the pattern of your life. You'll want to conform your ways to My word simply because it's the desire of your heart. Your life will change. Your life will change, but it will be a product of you spending time with me. My goodness. That's the great. That's the great reward. This is what Jesus constantly referred to. He Went back to his oneness with His Father. Then I want to read something again. That same minister that I just read from, they preached a sermon. And I took down some of the notes from their sermon. And I love what they said. They said, I need his presence every day. A day without his presence is a day when I go back to the way I used to be. A day in his presence is a day I go forward into change and into what he wants has made me to be. God is always present. But it makes the difference for us when we acknowledge his presence. Acknowledging his presence is what makes life elevated. And causes us to live aware of Him. Rather than aware of the natural realm around us living this life. Acknowledging the presence of God is what the is is. What is the difference between a nominal Christian life and a life that's full of the power of God? The presence of God and the manifest presence of God are two different things. The presence of God is always there. But that presence is not always in manifestation. The presence of God is everywhere, but it only comes in a manifestation when we acknowledge his presence. The men who walked with God had a spiritual perception that they cultivated. Every believer can have it if they'll cultivate it. How do you cultivate a spiritual perception? Every time there is a longing toward God, follow it, respond to it. Yield to your spirit. Yield to those longings. That's how you cultivate a mindfulness of the presence of God. And you live aware of his presence. These men who walked with God cultivated a lifelong habit of spiritual response. They kept responding to God throughout their whole life. They didn't have seasons where they stopped and started responding. But they put habits in place. Habits of responding to the drawings, the longings and the yearnings of their spirit toward God. These men who walked with God cultivated a spiritual sensitivity to God. Because they were in response to Him. They kept themselves spiritually bent toward God. There was a bending to where they were ever bending toward hearing him, leaning toward him, responding to Him. Spiritual receptivity and keenness are developed by responding as a habit. But it's destroyed by neglect. If we neglect being mindful of him, then we become less and less sensitive. And to him we can have a spiritual receptivity in degrees, to a greater degree or a less degree, depending on our response. Moses saw that his task from God was to be, but he let me reread that. Moses saw what his task from God was to be. But he knew his own inability to fulfill that. So Moses called out for the presence of God. He said that if God wouldn't go with him unless the if that. He wouldn't go unless the presence of God went with him. Because he knew the only way that which was in his heart could be fulfilled and that which God had said to him could be fulfilled was by living in the presence of God. God's presence was with him, carrying that out. It was the presence of God doing the work, not the man himself. Well, I want you to know that's exactly what belongs to us in Christ. That it's the greater one, living, manifesting, fulfilling his plan through us. But the measure we're mindful of him, the measure that we give place to him in our daily awareness. That's when we're going to to manifest and he's going to be able to manifest and perform through us the things, the fruit of righteousness that we're to bear. I want you to be aware of something, though. Sometimes people get the idea the devil gives them this idea. Well, this is my own life. I can do what I want. Can I tell you this? I want you to go with me to First Corinthians, chapter 16. Excuse me. First Corinthians, chapter 6, verse 19. In verse 20, and this is the King James translation. Notice this. It says, what? Know you not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost, which is in you, which you have of God? And look at this. You are not your own, for you have been bought with a price. Therefore, glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's. So our body is God's, our spirit is God's. What's that mean? That we can't just think that living out the plan of God is optional. No, we've been bought with a price. We belong to him. We don't even belong to ourselves. And what a glorious thing that is. It's not something to subtract from us. It's to bring us into the highest and into the highest flow and into the best life and a life that produces much fruit for God. Listen, if we're not careful, we'll hear hear statements or sing songs like this. God, I give you my heart. Listen, that's what happened at the new birth. You already gave him your heart. You can't give him what he already owns. He bought you. You don't belong to you. You are bought with a price. You know, if somebody were to come to me and say, pastor Nancy, see this cup of yours? I'm going to give it to you. You know, you can't give me what's Already mine. It's already mine. Well, even so, if we're not careful, we make statements that cause us to not think right. God, I give you my heart. No, we've already given him our heart. That's how we got born again. That we opened the door for him to come in. Now what we can do every day is consecrate and say, father, today I consecrate myself to your plan. That means I'm going to yield to the one that indwells me. I'm going to follow how you're leading me. I'm going to obey you every single day. Now that's a consecration. But we can't give him our heart day after day after day because we have already been bought with a price. We already belong to Him. Now I want to read that verse out of the living Bible translation. First Corinthians 6, 19, 20. The living Bible says, haven't you yet learned that your body is the home of the Holy Spirit God gave you and that he lives within you. Your own body does not belong to you, for God has bought you with a great price. What is that great price? Great price. The blood of Jesus. So use every part of your body to give glory back to God, because He owns it. Look at that. He's made us custodians of what he owns. He owns our body, but it's up to us to handle it in such a way that he's glorified. That means that we're not going to take our body to wrong places. We're not going to involve our body in wrong things. We're not going to use our body in a way that doesn't bring glory to God. We're not going to allow into our spirits the things that would hinder God from working. I want you to know that it's so easy when we belong to Christ. He's in us, we're in Him. That means that we cannot make decisions independent of Him. That means that before we choose something, we say, what about the One in Me? What does he say about this? Because I'm not to participate anything in anything I can't bring him into. Because when I come into something, he comes into something that we are one together. And so we're going to make decisions based on who's in us. Now, this is what we need to understand in Christ we have not only privileges but responsibilities. To recognize that I'm one with the Father, he's one with me. Therefore, my body, my spirit, my words, what I do with my thought life it matters to him because we are one now. Because he is Lord, don't you think that he's going to want to have something to say about where we go, what we do, what we allow in our thought life, what words we allow, people can't say, well, this is my life. I can live it the way I want. Not if you're born again. You were bought with a price. And because of that, that elevates the way we live. Amen. So how many of you know we can also receive healing off this verse? Isn't that something? It says that we are to glorify God in our bodies. Well, how many of you know he's not glorified? If our body is in pain, if our body is in sickness, if our body is limited and can't fulfill his plan, so. So we can use this verse to receive healing. Father, my body belongs to you and I glorify you in my body. I refuse to allow symptoms and sickness and pain to rob the body that belongs to you. And we can take our stand against the devil on this verse and say, this body belongs to God and you're not touching this body. I'm the custodian to see to it that you don't touch the property of God. I am God's property because I have been bought with a price. Sickness, you take your hands off me. Pain, you take your hands off me. Sickness and disease, you leave my body because you are. You have no. You have no foothold to stand in my body because this body belongs to God. We can receive healing off this verse if we'll really believe that I'm glorifying God in my body and it's not a sick body that glorifies him fully. Listen, it's. If I could say it to you this way. Remember when Jesus went into Jerusalem and he went one day to the temple and he watched what was going on in the temple. He saw that there were tables set up, that they were conducting business in the temple. Meaning this. They were not conducting business of the temple. Men were lining their pockets. They would go to the temple and they would make a business for their own lining of their pockets off of what was going on in that temple. Jesus went one day and observed it. The next day he came back and he started knocking over those money changers tables. He was kicking out that which was violating the temple. He made this statement. He said, this is to be called a house of prayer and you've made it a den of thieves. So notice Jesus was not okay when this was Going on in the temple and robbing it of its highest purpose. The highest purpose was it was a place of prayer. It was a place where people would go to fellowship with God, that people would hear from God, people would commune with God in that place. And these money changers, they came in bringing their own personal business, profiting off of that place. And Jesus was not okay when something was robbing the temple of its highest purpose. Well, I want you to know you're the temple of the Holy Ghost and Jesus is not okay when sickness and disease tries to rob this temple of its highest purpose. What's our purpose for fellowship with God? To fulfill the plan of God, the will of God. And if sickness and disease tries to attach itself to this temple, Jesus is not okay with that. And he will back us up as we resist sickness and disease from trying to rob us of the highest flow that this temple is for. I want you to know it also says In Colossians chapter 3, in verse 17, Whatsoever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by Him. The living Bible translation of Colossians 3:17 says this and whatever you do or say, let it be as a representative of the Lord Jesus. And come with him into the presence of God. And come with him into the presence of God the Father to give him your thanks. Notice this that we are representatives. We cannot just live any way we want, go anywhere we want, conduct life anywhere we any way we want. No, because we're one with Him. We're always considering the one we're hosting. Jesus did that everywhere he went. That's why his life bore the fruit it bore. He always considered His Father before he said anything, before he did anything. This is what is going to cause us to bear much fruit. Wait a minute. I'm the temple of the Holy Ghost. I'm not allowing something wrong in this temple. I'm not allowing the devil to harass this temple. I'm not allowing my mind to be harassed. I'm not allowing my body to be hindered by sickness and disease. I'm the custodian to see to it that this temple of God is reserved for him. I'm bought with a price. And I'm only going to live in a way that facilitates the One who abides in me. I tell you, that's what elevates our living. It's not about running out the wrong thing, it's remembering the right thing. I am the temple of the Holy Ghost. And because I'm the temple of the Holy Ghost. I forbid that which is in my body or in my mind to violate the temple. I will not allow something wrong. I won't allow wrong habits. I won't allow myself to go to wrong places. I'm not trying to improve my behavior. I am hosting the Holy Spirit in a way that's honorable of him and that elevates everything of my life, my behavior and my daily life. Amen. Well, we're so grateful that we're able to come to you with this word and teach to you. But it's only because of the generosity of of Kenneth and Gloria Copeland that they have gifted this airtime to us and to every programmer on the Victory Channel. And so I ask you that if this broadcast is a blessing to you and a help to your life, I ask you to go to kcm.org and sign up to become a partner. Because it's the partners of Kenneth Copeland Ministries who pay for this airtime. And it's only honorable and right that when we receive of something that we also honor it by funding it. So again, I ask you, if you're not already, become a partner by going to kcm.org follow the prompts there and you can sign up to become a partner today. And until next time, remember this. Jesus is the healer. God bless you.
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To watch or listen to today's message and other messages by Nancy Dufresne, visit Dufresne Ministries.
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I want to invite you to get hold of my book called the Price of the Double Portion Anointing. This book came out of an experience when I was in St. Petersburg, Russia, and Jesus came into my hotel room and spoke to me for about an hour. He talked to me about what it takes to walk skillfully with that anointing. So we invite you you to get hold of your copy by going to jesusthehealer.org and you can purchase your copy there. God bless you.
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We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us@DefrainMinistries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, submit a prayer request, or visit our online store. Thank you to the friends and partners of Dufresne Ministries for making this production possible.
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This is Nancy Dufresne and I want to extend an invitation to you to become a partner with Dufresne Ministries today. God bless you.
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Partnership helps with crusades held nationwide and abroad, printing and publishing of books and other materials, operational costs, and TV and other media broadcasts. For more information and to sign up to become a partner, go to defrainministries.org shop Nancy Dufresne's books and other products as well as Jesus the Healer merchandise on our website@jesusthehealer.org or call us at 951-696-9258 to place your order today. Come join us for our Jesus the Healer crusade in Paducah, Kentucky at World Harvest Church of Paducah with Pastors Chris and Amber Cody, May 17th through the 21st, 2026. For more information and to register for in person attendance, scan the QR code on the screen or visit our website@DefrainMinistries.org
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I am so excited to share with you about our new worship album called Jesus the Healer Worship Volume 1. It is now available on this I'm joined by my good friend Reba Rambeau, her daughter Destiny, and my son Grant Dufresne, along with others. These songs are important for the era that we're in. They're going to be a blessing to use in your local church as well as your own time of private devotional worship. Remember that you can get it today by going to defrainministries.org you can go to Spotify, Apple Music and other platforms. For more information or for more ways to listen, scan the QR code on your screen.