Jillian is joined by Harvard psychologist Dr. Ellen Langer, the pioneer of mindfulness research, for a conversation that challenges everything you think you know about stress, healing, and being present. Dr. Langer explains why mindfulness isn’t about meditation—it’s about noticing. They unpack how our mindset shapes our relationships, our health, and even how we age. From letting go of labels to rethinking forgiveness, this episode is a masterclass in conscious living.

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