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Kurt Mexican
Establishment media sucks August lighting so good luck Bullshit. We can't afford why he's commenting this
Jimmy Dore
watch and see as his jack golf the medium speeds and jumps the medium
Chris Russell
and hit some head on.
Jimmy Dore
It's the Jimmy Door show everybody. Welcome to today's show. Kurt Mexican will be along later after our interview with Roger Waters. I bet you watch your Roger Waters is going to show up today. I have a very good feeling about this one. But first we have the world's premier voice impressionist with us, Mike McRae from Austin, Texas. I Mike.
Mike McRae
Hey, what's up Jimmy? Big, big Pink Floyd fan here.
Jimmy Dore
Oh really? That's good. My brother Miles, biggest Pink Floyd friend also. So even nice.
Mike McRae
You know he I actually banned for midwesterners to like.
Theo Vaughn
Yeah,
Jimmy Dore
what's your midwestern accent?
Mike McRae
Well, I mean there's several different ones. I do a St. Louis one.
Jimmy Dore
Let me hear it.
Mike McRae
Well, yeah, I mean the main thing about St. Louis, you have to sound like you're bored the whole time you're bored. You could take Highway Party down there. But I mean it's going to be a disaster at this time. I take, I take Friday far on in. You know, if, if, if you want to go at all. I mean I wouldn't blame you if you didn't want to go.
Jimmy Dore
Okay. All right. All right, let's do this. I think I know that. I think I do too. Hey, this is Jimmy. Who's this?
Mike McRae
Hi Jimmy, it's J.D. vance. How are you man?
Jimmy Dore
Ah, Mr. Vice President. So nice to hear from you. I'm good. How about yourself?
Mike McRae
I'm doing great. Honestly. I feel like we haven't talked in like forever.
Jimmy Dore
It's been a while. I've been busy brother.
Mike McRae
For sure. It's been a minute. Good to hear your voice, man. What's up with you?
Jimmy Dore
What's up with me? You know, I just, you know.
Mike McRae
Oh. Did you see what these libtards on the Supreme Court just did? Yesterday was a dark day in America, Jimmy. Now people are going to come here just to have babies. Just 7:47 full of pregnant ladies. 8, 9 months up in first class living it up on their way to drop anchor here in the U.S. you
Jimmy Dore
know I don't think that would.
Mike McRae
That those airport guys with the orange sticks will be guiding the jets in like. Yep. Come on in this way to deliver your welfare larva to forever tether your families to the tee to the federal government. Because this orange stick guys always know who is on the plane and are down with their agenda. Usually.
Jimmy Dore
Do you really think That's a realistic scenario.
Mike McRae
Of course it is, Jimmy. A jet that size needs guidance on the ground to properly dock at the gate.
Jimmy Dore
No, I mean with the people flocking here to have their babies.
Mike McRae
Look, this SCOTUS decision is so disastrous for the American people that we might need to revisit even having a Supreme Court.
Jimmy Dore
Are you joking? Because one decision you don't like.
Mike McRae
Jimmy, the federal government is a government of checks and balances. And when the judicial branch is weaponizing the Constitution against the American people, the executive branch needs to take action.
Theo Vaughn
Wow.
Jimmy Dore
Could you say that again? Weaponizing.
Mike McRae
Weaponizing the Constitution against the American people. You're welcome.
Jimmy Dore
So that's how you're phrasing it? Instead of interpreting the Constitution?
Mike McRae
What is there to interpret? I never really understood that. The Constitution is written in plain English. There's no wiggle room there. It says what it says. So again, just weaponizing the Constitution against the people.
Jimmy Dore
You can't be serious. Are you a lawyer?
Mike McRae
I mean, not really.
Jimmy Dore
So the. So the idea that the Supreme Court interpreting the Constitution is an act of aggression against the population. It's one of the most irresponsible statements I've heard in years.
Mike McRae
Thank you. And there's a lot more where that came from. Quite frankly, you ain't heard nothing yet.
Jimmy Dore
I suppose you may be alluding to your rumored 2028 presidential run. Can you give us an inside scoop there?
Mike McRae
Oh, of course I can, Jimmy. What are these phone calls for? So, on the Republican side, Marco Rubio and I are very subtly differentiating ourselves as GOP candidates, with him as the stand with Israel, no matter what, Cuck and me as the. Hey, maybe we don't take orders from Jews, but bull. So, as usual, it's Cuck versus Bull. And as President Trump established, bull always wins over Cuck. So the game is to establish yourself as the bull before everybody else.
Jimmy Dore
Interesting.
Mike McRae
Yeah. Once you see how it works, it's amazing. It really is staggering to see how deeply bull versus Cuck fears are ingrained in the Republican male mind. Thank you. Online pornography. Yeah, but on the Democrat side, it's a little trickier. Their subconscious has a whole guilt thing going on that I don't even fully understand. Their whole deal is, like, who can we nominate that will most assuredly lose, but we can feel morally superior about having nominated them at all? Dude, it's so stupid.
Jimmy Dore
For sure.
Mike McRae
Like, right now, apparently, Kamala Harris is reaching out to Zoron Mom. Dummy. To see it. Yeah, dude. To see if he can wave his DNSA magic wand over her head and make her electorally viable. Like those recent wins in New York. Hopefully he agrees to do it just for shits and giggles. Encouraging that woman to run again would just prove his sense of humor. Let's all hope he has one.
Jimmy Dore
Well, amen to that, brother.
Mike McRae
But even Democrats aren't going to make that giant mistake twice. Like I said recently, I foresee AOC being the frontrunner, and I sincerely hope she is.
Jimmy Dore
Why do you want that?
Mike McRae
Because, Jimmy, let's be honest. This is the United States and there are realities behind who wins presidential elections. And AOC could literally offer us the cure to cancer. But no one, and I mean no one with a tiny Minnie mouse ass voice like that is going to become the leader of the free world.
Jimmy Dore
Oh, really?
Mike McRae
Have you ever heard her talk? It's hilarious. She could say the most profound thing in the world and most people would be like, did I just step on a mouse? It's like a cartoon character. For real. Even if she does run, who's going to do her voice on your show? I sure as shit can. I don't. I don't think Steph can get up that high. It's really just a joke. No one will take her seriously.
Jimmy Dore
Okay. Yeah.
Mike McRae
And the best part is you don't have to point it out. Just let her talk. Let her own voice have its effect. Ah, yes, here's an over inflated party balloon. Talking about tax policy. How adorable. Anyways, I gotta go. We might start the Iran war back up this week amidst 4th of July just to see what the markets do. At this point, we're just kind of pressing all the buttons on the control panel to see what they do. Pretty wild. Anyway, have a great summer. Love to the whole family.
Jimmy Dore
Okay. Hey, what was the. What was the. I missed the Supreme Court ruling you were talking about at the top of that.
Mike McRae
Oh, birthright shit.
Jimmy Dore
What'd they say?
Mike McRae
You're born in the country, you're a citizen?
Jimmy Dore
Well, that's how it's always been.
Mike McRae
Well, that's what it shouldn't be. Those are anchor babies.
Jimmy Dore
I also. Did you also hear about the Supreme Court or the. Or the law that got passed in the House about trying to protect kids from the Internet, which is really just so they can surveil everybody
Mike McRae
now? Yeah, well, I heard. I didn't hear about it yesterday, but I heard it was coming up.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah, no, I think it happened. It hasn't been. I don't think it's passed the Senate or getting signed by the President yet, but I've been. I've been really scattered lately. I don't have. Two of my producers are not working. They're off on vacation, which I don't know how I let that happen. Two people's had vacations at the exact same time. Anyway, and I've been traveling and. Anyway, so I. I haven't really been up on the news. I know that sounds funny, but.
Mike McRae
Oh, well, I should have explained that more. Up top. My apologies.
Jimmy Dore
No, no problem. All right, let's move on. I got to get to Roger Waters. Hey, this is Jimmy. Who's this?
Mike McRae
Patel.
Jimmy Dore
Director Patel. What a pleasure. How are you?
Mike McRae
Dude, I'm doing so tight right now. No cap, dude, my ish is straight up on cruise control. You know that feeling, hombre? All cylinders on fire. Entire sitron block job stuff is legit. Clutch. Right now I've got a hottest balls girlfriend who's a country music legend. Has a voice like a majestic parakeet. I guess. I don't know. I've never heard her sing sober. I finally caught you before vacation, dude. I get to talk to my homie one last time.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah, I'm looking forward to taking some time off. Says,
Mike McRae
oh, you want me to do that? Okay. Dude, I'm doing so tight right now. No cap, dude, my ish is straight up on cruise control. You know that feeling, hombre? All cylinders on file fire. The entire sitch on lockdown job stuff is legit. Clutch. Right now I've got a hottest balls girlfriend who is a country music legend and has a voice like a majestic parakeet. I guess. I don't know. I've never heard her sing sober. I finally caught you before vacation, dude. I got to talk to my homie one last time.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah, I'm looking forward to taking some time off. Some. Some deserved R and R, you know.
Mike McRae
Oh, for sure, dude, for sure. I bet you let loose like a motherfucker. I love it, dude. Love it. You got some big plans for the fourth pick 25 0?
Jimmy Dore
We might. We'll see. I'm doing a set at the Improv, but how about you?
Mike McRae
Oh, dude, you haven't heard of the legendary annual fourth of July Cash Bash Celebration of America?
Jimmy Dore
No.
Mike McRae
Come on, man. Literally impossible. Like the biggest DC event, like, ever. It started in law school and every year just gets bigger and clutcher. Yeah, this year it's going to be epic, dude.
Jimmy Dore
Oh yeah.
Mike McRae
Oh yeah. Trust. Throughout the day, we're expecting a buck, buck 50. Mainly work friends, but some college buds too. Two grills running constantly. Meat only, no fucking veggie burgers, three kegs, all American beer, full bar, 20 pounds of Maryland crab trucked up from Annapolis. We are not fucking around, dude. Full view of fireworks over the Potomac. Three flat screens running. One showing Mel Gibson's the Patriot, the other two porn, one softcore, one hardcore. A mechanical bull, a little circus poodle who can run around on an inflatable ball in a tutu. Ketamine. The works, dude.
Jimmy Dore
Ketamine. Wow. It sounds like quite a party, pal.
Mike McRae
I just love America, dude. I love her getting emotional right now thinking about it. Trust. Okay, okay, but then the best part, after the fireworks are over and the nice people leave, we say fuck it. We let the dishes soak in the sink, and then we head to the after party.
Jimmy Dore
After party?
Mike McRae
Oh, hell yeah, dude. This one guy that Randy and them know has a place down by the dockyards that's on the water and we just go fucking nuts, dude. We get coked up, have Roman candle fights, there's always at least two strippers. We do jello shots and use our FBI clearances to swat Democrat members of congress just full on ape shit.
Jimmy Dore
Sounds like quite something.
Mike McRae
Oh, you know it, dude. My party is about loving America. The after party is about wanting to fuck America on the floor of a gas station bathroom.
Jimmy Dore
Oh my God, I see.
Mike McRae
You should come, dude.
Jimmy Dore
I, I no.
Mike McRae
Suit yourself, brohim. This year is going to be particularly lit with all the law enforcement who will be in attendance. SCOTUS has made it so there will be new laws to enforce, which is what we crave, dog.
Jimmy Dore
Oh really?
Mike McRae
Oh yeah, dude. They just upheld laws to ban males competing with females in like team sports for schools. So it's fucking game on with that shit, dude.
Jimmy Dore
Wait, what do you mean?
Mike McRae
The FBI will be on the ground floor policing that shit. You got a dick and balls, get up the fuck off the soccer field, Glenda. Simple as that.
Jimmy Dore
Is that really a judicious allocation of federal resources?
Mike McRae
No, dude, Honestly, that sounds like an insistent principal's job. But quite frankly, after all our fuck ups, the FBI needs a PR boost like a motherfucker right about now. Transport shit has proven so insanely unpopular with most people on both sides that inserting ourselves into the situation can only make us look good. We'd be like gender saviors.
Jimmy Dore
With all due respect, Cash, I'm not sure this is a situation that needs a savior. Maybe more like a readjustment.
Mike McRae
Saviors are rarely requested. Usually they are announced and foisted upon people. Good law abiding citizens don't know that they need gender saviors. We are here to inform them. Never fear, good people. Here come the FBI to make sure that your fifth grade daughter will never be a second place Sally ever again. Finally, we will literally be the FBI. Female body inspectors.
Jimmy Dore
Good lord.
Mike McRae
Honestly, it works out great because every year on the 4th we've been doing genital inspections at that after party I was telling you about. In fact, that one guy that Randy and them know adamantly insists on it. Kind of weird, for sure. But we're so faded by the time we get there, no one gives a shit.
Jimmy Dore
All right then.
Mike McRae
Okay. We fit TMI like clockwork. Should let you go, dog. Have a great summer. Dude, you sure you don't want to come to either party? Open invite?
Jimmy Dore
Yeah, pretty sure, but thank you.
Mike McRae
Burgers and beers. Love in America. Girlfriend. Singing songs that people are forced to listen to. Little circus poodle fucker. All right, dude, right on. Between you and me, if like five people show up, I'd be fucking thrilled. Dude. If you know anyone in dc, just tell them, you know, free food booth. Fucking clutch, dude.
Jimmy Dore
All right. Cash Patel. Love and Cash Patel.
Mike McRae
He's got plans. Got a big plan.
Jimmy Dore
He's got big plans. He's a big patriot. I love him. All right, buddy, it's great to talk to you. Anything you want to plug, anything happening.
Mike McRae
I got a few shows coming up next few weeks. Follow me on Instagram. Mike McCray online. M A C R A E. Anybody
Jimmy Dore
in the Austin area, go see Mike McCray live. It's always a treat. You go into the creek in the cave. Pop party
Mike McRae
maybe. Yeah, I don't know. We'll see. I'm not sure what I'm doing actually. I just made up all my fake July 4th plans. I got to make real ones.
Jimmy Dore
According to Kurt, there's some kind of anniversary party tonight.
Mike McRae
Oh, tonight? Oh, I thought you might like a fourth of July.
Jimmy Dore
No, no, tonight.
Mike McRae
Nine going down there.
Jimmy Dore
Okay. All right. All right, brother, good to talk to you. I'll see you next time.
Mike McRae
Happy 4th. Happy, happy vacation, dog.
Jimmy Dore
All right, we'll take a break and we'll be right back. Hi everybody. Welcome back to the live stream. We've got special guests with us. It's Roger Waters. Everybody knows the legendary founding member of Pink Floyd. A vocal supporter of Boycott Divestment and Sanctions movement. In July of 2025, he publicly endorsed the band group Palestine Action, an act of defiance against the UK anti terrorism laws that exposed him to potential criminal prosecution and up to 14 years in prison. He's currently fundraising for a UK Supreme Court case challenging the refusal of the British government to allow a new investigation into September 11th attacks. Welcome to the show. Roger Waters. Good to see you.
Roger Waters
Good see you, brother.
Jimmy Dore
Okay, so you've been. Are you actually. Are you afraid that they might put you in jail for endorsing Palestine action?
Roger Waters
A little bit, yeah. I mean, afraid enough that when I flew in here, which I did, like, a few days ago, I just carried a burner. I didn't bring my phone with me. I didn't bring a laptop, just in case the Old Bill were at the airport, you know, to say, excuse me, sir, would you mind stepping into this room for two or three days so that we can look through all your stuff? So. So I was that concerned, but they didn't.
Unknown Expert/Guest
They.
Roger Waters
They couldn't be more polite. And so who knows whether they'll get round to me.
Jimmy Dore
Well, yeah, good luck. They banned a few people I know. Cenk Uygur from Tyt, Hasan Piker from Twitch. So there's been a lot of not good things and there's a lot of censorship happening in the uk. What, what do you. What do you attribute the government's, you know, subservience to the Zionist program?
Roger Waters
Well, isn't that the $60,000 question? You know, it's the question that we've all been asking, scratching our heads for years and years and years. Does it have something to do with usury? I saw an interesting thing on Instagram the other day about the history of the Rothschilds here. Oh, there he goes again. And, you know, because that's one of the things that they're so deadly against Iran, is that in Iran, it's illegal to charge interest if you lend anybody any money. It's against the law.
Jimmy Dore
I didn't know that.
Roger Waters
Yeah, well, there you go. You learn something every day, and it's what makes the world go round. You know, the Rothschilds backed both the Duke of Wellington and Napoleon at the Battle of Waterburg.
Jimmy Dore
So you're telling me that the bankers play both sides in every war?
Roger Waters
Exactly. That's exactly what I'm saying to you. That's exactly what I'm saying. And they make a lot of money. It doesn't matter to them who wins or loses. The main thing is to keep spending the money. The main thing is to keep lending the governments money. I think that's what he particularly, I'm told, figured out. And don't forget, it was the Rothschild that Lord Balfour wrote the letter to back in 1917, where they said, you know, this government looks favorably on the creation of the homeland for the Jewish people in Palestine and so on and so forth. Of course, what they forget to say is that his next sentence was save that it in no way should impact on the civil or religious or any other rights of the indigenous people already living there. They seem to have forgotten that bit.
Mike McRae
A little bit.
Roger Waters
Now, I don't mean to sound cavalier about it or to joke about it because clearly it's not funny.
Jimmy Dore
Well, you know, what I have been saying at this show is that I knew that, you know, Israel was mowing down Palestinians whenever they felt like it, but I didn't realize the whole history, which you just kind of pointed out because the story was always that Israel was created as a safe haven for Jews after the Holocaust. But of course, the Balfour Declaration, which kind of set up Israel, which kind of gave Palestine via, you know, in. In cahoots with the Rothschilds, that happened way before the Holocaust. So. And Zionism has been a project since the. At least the mid-1800s. And so now I'm coming to realize all this, and I think it's the worst thing for Israel is that people actually find out the. How it was founded, why it was founded. I didn't even know about the Nakba. I didn't know any of this stuff until the. They started slaughtering people after October 7th. Have you known about this all along?
Roger Waters
No, I came to my realization in 2006. In fact, in this new song, maybe that's why we're on your show, is that Mona Miari, who's a young Palestinian singer, and I have made a reimagining of a song of mine from the Wall called Comfortably Numb. And. And so that's why we're doing a lot of publicity at the moment. But in that song, in that song, some of the new lyrics that I've written to Comfortably Numb, saying I never knew or we never knew about the Nakba, I was only 5 years old in 48, so you can do the math. I'm 82 years old. So I didn't know that any of that was going on. We were sold the propaganda that Israel was a bunch of healthy socialists with their sleeves rolled up, turning the desert into, you know, arable land and looking after one another and being all kind of democratic about things. When, of course, that had nothing to do with the reality. The reality was that from, as you say, the middle of the 19th century on, there was an absolute determination to steal the land and get rid of all the indigenous people. And they're still trying to do it now. So thank goodness people like you and me and others are standing up and saying this is wrong. It's only wrong, though, if you believe in human rights.
Mike McRae
Jimmy.
Roger Waters
They don't, obviously.
Jimmy Dore
Obviously they don't really consider the Palestinians human. They're even lower than goyim. But, you know, my brother Miles is a huge fan and he wanted me to ask you this question. Most people say the albums where you were the primary lyric contributor, like the Wall, Final Cut, even Dark side of the Moon, were largely about you working through your childhood war traumas. You are much more of an existential metaphysical thinker, and you were very prescient about the path the world is taking. Songs like Two Suns in the Sunset and Goodbye Blue sky, both are about humanity destroying itself. What is your view of world events along that line, and how do you think that ties into 911 being an intentional demolition and our Middle east involvement ever since?
Roger Waters
Wow. All right. That's the other big question, isn't it? The 911 question. I mean, since, you know, a few weeks after 911 happened, anybody with an IQ above room temperature started saying, hang on a minute, there's something about this that looks fishy. And there was, and there still is. But I'm prepared to admit that I said almost nothing for years because I understood that I would never be taken seriously about anything. If I started saying, you know, all these physicists and architects who are telling us that these were controlled demolitions and have nothing to do with airplanes flying into them or burning jet fuel or any of the rest of the story that we told, we would have been laughed off the face of the earth. But now we have an opportunity in England, which is. I think that's the reason why we're talking tonight. A friend of mine, Matt Campbell, whose brother Jeff was unlucky enough to be in Building one when the Twin Towers came down, I nearly said fell down. They didn't fall down, were demolished that morning. And he is trying to open an inquest to find out who killed his brother and how. And this is the only legal operation to investigate it. There's no question nobody will ever allow one in the United States, as we know. So England looks like the only chance. So we'll see how we get on. The hearing is in October, and we're fighting all the way to make sure
Jimmy Dore
that that happens so that we're definitely going to get more into that court case. I wanted to play you a video. I don't know if you've ever seen this. It's a couple of minutes long. It was put together by James Corbett and it kind of highlights the absurdities you have to swallow to accept the official story about how those Twin towers and Building 7 came down and the whole 911 story, including the Pentagon. Let's listen to a little bit of this.
James Corbett (voiceover)
On the morning of September 11th, 11th, 2001, 19 men armed with box cutters, directed by a man on dialysis in a cave fortress halfway around the world, using a satellite phone and a laptop, directed the most sophisticated penetration of the most heavily defended airspace in the world, overpowering the passengers and the military combat trained pilots on four commercial aircraft before flying those planes wildly off course for over an hour without being molested by a single fighter interceptor. These 19 hijackers, devout religious fundamentalists who like to drink alcohol, snort cocaine and live with pink haired strippers, managed to knock down three buildings with two planes in New York, while in Washington a pilot who couldn't handle a single engine Cessna was able to fly a 757 in an 8,000 foot descending 270 degree corkscrew turn to come exactly level with the ground hitting the Pentagon in the budget analyst office where DoD staffers were working on the mystery of the $2.3 trillion that Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had announced missing from the Pentagon's coffers in a press conference the day before on September 10, 2001. Luckily, the news anchors knew who did it within minutes.
Mike McRae
Osama Bin Laden.
James Corbett (voiceover)
The pundits knew within hours.
Roger Waters
Osama Bin Laden.
James Corbett (voiceover)
The administration knew within the day, terrorists
Jimmy Dore
who committed these acts and those who harbored them.
James Corbett (voiceover)
And the evidence literally fell into the FBI's lap that a hijacker's passport was
Jimmy Dore
found blocks from the World Trade center
Mike McRae
crash site, if you can believe that.
James Corbett (voiceover)
But for some reason a bunch of crazy conspiracy theorists demanded an investigation into the greatest attack on American soil in history. That investigation was delayed, underfunded, set up to fail, a conflict of interest and a cover up from start to finish. It was based on testimony extracted through torture, the records of which were destroyed. It failed to mention the existence of WTC 7, Able Danger, P. Tech, Sibel, Edmonds, OBL and the CIA. And the drills of hijacked aircraft being flown into buildings that were being simulated at the precise same time that those events were actually happening. It was lied to by the Pentagon, the CIA, the Bush administration. And as for Bush and Cheney, well, no one knows what they told it because they testified in secret, off the record, not under oath and behind closed doors. It didn't bother to look at who funded the attacks because that question is ultimately of little practical significance. Still, the 911 Commission did brilliantly answering all of the questions the public had except most of the victims family members questions and pinned blame on all the people responsible. Although no one so much as lost their job determining the attacks.
Kurt Mexican
Failure of imagination.
Jimmy Dore
Because nobody in our government at least,
Mike McRae
and I don't think the prior government
Jimmy Dore
could envision flying airplanes into buildings except
James Corbett (voiceover)
the Pentagon, FEMA, NORAD and the NRO. The DIA destroyed 2.5 terabytes of data on Able Danger. But that's okay because it probably wasn't important. The SEC destroyed their records on the investigation into the insider trading before the attacks. But that's okay because destroying the records of the largest investigation in SEC history is just part of routine record keeping. NIST has classified the data that they used for their model of WTC 7's collapse. But that's okay because knowing how they made their model of the collapse would jeopardize public safety. The FBI has argued that all material related to their investigation of 911 should be kept secret from the public. But that's okay because the FBI probably has nothing to hide. This man never existed nor is anything he had to say worthy of your attention. And if you say otherwise you are a paranoid conspiracy theorist and deserve to be shunned by all of humanity. Likewise him, him, him and her and her and her and him. If you have any questions about this story, you are a batshit paranoid tinfoil dog abusing baby hater and will be reviled by everyone. If you love your country and or freedom, happiness, rainbows, rock and roll, puppy dogs, apple pie and your grandma, you will never ever express doubts about any part of this story to anyone ever. This has been a public service announcement by the friends of the FBI, CIA, NSA, DIA, SS, SEC, MSM, White House, NIST and the 911 Commission. Because ignorance is strength.
Jimmy Dore
Okay, that was by James Corbett. Great job. Have you ever seen that before?
Roger Waters
Yeah, of course.
Jimmy Dore
Oh yeah I have.
Roger Waters
I love it.
Jimmy Dore
Fantastic. So the big reason why you're here is because this is the gentleman you were talking about. He is trying to get justice and, and to get the Britain to open up an investigation into actually what happened on 911 and he's got a little video I want to play from him right now.
Matt Campbell
At 8:46 that morning Jeff's tower was hit about 15 stories below. So he was above the the impact point and as we know no one above the impact point. The north tower survived because my brother essentially died an unnatural and violent death by law in the uk, if they were killed abroad and the remains were repatriated by law, they have to have what's called an inquest, essentially investigation into who, where, when, and essentially how did that person come about their, their death? I think no more than two or three minutes was spent on my brother's life and death. There was no investigation whatsoever into what killed my brother, and certainly no real attempt, I think, to establish the cause of death for any of the other victims either. But I hadn't really considered the, the nature of the collapse of the, the Twin Towers, let alone Building seven. I think that only really came onto my radar probably 2006, 2007. And I think what really caught my attention was the nist, that's the National Institute of Standards and Technologies admission, because I'm basically forced to admit it by a high school physics teacher called David Chandler, who challenged them at a draft meeting of their final report, challenged them that, you know, the building fell at three, full acceleration for at least two and a quarter seconds. And that, frankly, is just. It's impossible. And I started thinking, okay, I know there's a mechanism to try and get my brother's inquest reopened, and you essentially have to petition the Attorney General for England and Wales showing, for example, insufficiency of inquiry, but also if there's any new evidence. And so we sat and waited for a response from the Attorney General. Typically, they normally get back to you in sort of four to six months. They took 22 months eventually before they actually got back to us with initial denial, started the process for judicial review. We applied to the courts. I'd say 50% of their arguments were basically around this peculiar privilege that the Attorney General has, which is almost regal in nature, which is they're immune to judicial review, thankfully, towards the end of last year. So in 2025, the Supreme Court granted our appeal hearing that's now been scheduled for October 14th and 15th of 2026, where we're hoping that the Supreme Court will look at this unresolved issue really, of, you know, should the Attorney General
Jimmy Dore
be above the law?
Matt Campbell
I think it's important to, to investigate all aspects of 911 because of where it's led us and I guess ultimately learn from it. You know, I guess that's. That's the whole point, isn't it?
Jimmy Dore
So he actually has a. Because he has to raise a lot of money to do this. And so they have agreed to, you know, hear his protest against the Attorney General turning it down and let me See, here it is. Here's his Crowdfunder. It's Crowdfunder.co.uk P90 11 and so if you want. And so do you know how much he needs to raise?
Roger Waters
I know how much, how much he needs to raise. 150 grand. Immediately.
Theo Vaughn
Wow.
Roger Waters
Immediately. Listen, I'm coming. I'm going to come clean. I've given him a hundred grand because. I know. Because we need to know what happened. We need this not just for Jeff, who I never knew. I met Matt three days ago. You know, we sat down and we talked for quite some time. And he's. And he's. And he's very, very, as you can see from listening to him talk, he's very together. He's very, very organized. They have a very, very, very good case. But he is asking a question on behalf of the whole human race, because these are going to kill us all if we don't demand what we were promised with the 51 articles of the United nations, you know, on the 25th of June in San Francisco in 1945, where we said we could have a world where we won't have any more wars because we will have law and we will abide by it. We'll have the Geneva Conventions and so on. But unfortunately, the ruling class had their fingers crossed behind their back. They never believed a word of it from the start. I know, I'm ranting a bit.
Jimmy Dore
No, go ahead.
Roger Waters
I can't help it. I feel so passionately about this because we, the ordinary people all over the world, all of us want that world with no war, where we can bring up our children and where it is a natural human right to have a roof over our heads and not to be murdered by our governments or by somebody else's government. I mean, Matt's brother was murdered probably by the government of the United States. There, I've said it. I mean, you know, when you, you say, well, how did the buildings get demolished? Who put the. The explosives in them that made them free fall for two seconds, killing his brother and 3,000 other innocent people who were in the towers? And why were there no fighter jets in the sky that day? Why had they all been sent to Canada by Dick? Janey, That's. I mean, I'm only telling you stories that I've heard because I've done a little bit of research. It's hard to do research because this is something that you can't talk about because the crime is so heinous. It's what Wesley Clark discovered when he went into the Pentagon and spoke to Paul Wolfowitz that day and the guy who showed him the papers saying we're going to destroy seven countries in the next five years. Well, there's only Lebanon and Iran left. The other five are gone. I know it took them 25 years, not five years, but nevertheless. And we, the people, we want this planet to survive, and it won't unless we call these people under the law, under international law, to account. Somebody has to account for Jeff's death, Jeff Campbell's death. And I applaud his brother for taking. And I have helped him. And I want more people to join this crowdfunder. Come on, guys, just dip into your back pocket a little bit. Sorry.
Jimmy Dore
No, no. This is the greatest opportunity to get an actual inquiry into what happened because as pointed out, the. The official inquiry, the 911 report was, was a charade. It was. It was again, underfunded. It was set up to fail. Everybody who's written and was a part of it has denounced it. They were lied to by the CIA, they were lied to by the Pentagon. Everybody lied to them. And Dick Cheney and George Bush wouldn't even go on oath to testify about it. So. And they did, like I said, they did it behind closed doors and they had to be together to do it. They wouldn't even do it individually. So. And you know, what I've learned in the short time doing the show that I'm doing is that whenever the establishment makes it toxic for you to ask a question about something important, that they're covering up stuff. You know, whether it be 9 11, whether it be Seth Rich, whether it be Covid, whatever it is, if you're not allowed to ask a question about it, that means that they're covering something up. And would you agree with that?
Roger Waters
Absolutely, 100%. And because they control the mainstream media entirely through Murdoch and this and now through Meta, the world is run for the benefit of and by Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos and those billion zillionaire Elon Musk, Bill Gates, all of those zillionaires they now control, they've bought the government. Everybody knows that. It's not just aipac, it's not just the Rothschilds who bought Congress and are allowing the genocide to go on in Palestine and who obviously have allowed the 911 to remain a mystery for everybody who might care about it, including Matt Campbell. You know, so we know all of this, but so how can we make our voice, the voice of the choir, loud enough that we can get our side heard? All we want is the truth, Nothing else. I know I'm sounding a bit John Lennon now, but give peace a chance. Let's hear some truth. Let's hear truth about 9 11. Let's absolutely demand that there is an investigation into what actually happened and who killed Jeff Campbell and the other 3,000 people and all those firemen, all those brave, heroic people who went in there to help, and they were all killed as well. And all the people who've come out of the woodworks in, like the fire chief from Brooklyn. I can't remember his name now.
Chris Russell
Few.
Roger Waters
Somehow they get. Whoa, sh. We don't want to hear about it. Yeah, we know it was. We know. We know they needed a Pearl harbor and that was it. So 3000 people died. They couldn't care less. 3000 lives. Who cares? They want to go on controlling the world, and the way they do it is by insisting on a state of perpetual war. And it's a war between the rich and the poor. It just is. So, yeah, we need to amplify Matt's voice, please. And thank you, Jimmy, for having him on and having me on as well.
Jimmy Dore
My pleasure. And, you know, you brought up General Wesley Clark's admission that when he went into the Pentagon after 9 11, they had already showed him they had plans to go into Libya, to go into Syria, to go into Iraq, to go into Lebanon, to go into Iran, Somalia. They did all those, except right now, the last two were Iran and. And Lebanon, which they're. Which they're trying to do right now. But even bigger, what they first had to get Christians or people in the west to believe that their mortal enemies were Muslims. And, you know, recently, Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly have come out and apologized because they bought that propaganda. And they now realize that they were. You know, that's basically Zionist propaganda. The Zionists got Christians to fight their wars against Muslims and for them, for the Zionists. And that's what it looks like to me because that's exactly. You know, they knew they were never going to give Palestine a state, and so they needed to dismember and overthrow every Arab country around them so they couldn't come to the defense of Palestine. And that's what it seems like to me. Does it seem like that to you? Does this go back to Israel?
Roger Waters
Yeah, well, yeah. Well, at the end of the day, it looks as if it all comes down to oil and natural resources and the old European imperial idea that the world is there for the taking. And so for 500 years, Europeans have, from Magellan on and Captain Cook and the rest of it. And whoever crossed, you know, in 1642 and when they discovered the new. Funnily enough, when the Pilgrim Fathers landed in Maryland or wherever they landed, Plymouth Rock, they said, this is Zion. It was their Zion. And they came and they came into North America and let's not scrub this under the carpet. And killed everyone.
Mike McRae
We did.
Roger Waters
The numbers, we're not quite sure because nobody ever counted the heads of all the indigenous people that they murdered as they crossed the country. But they did. And so we need to look at ourselves, particularly if we call us as a Christian or they people here.
Mike McRae
I'm not.
Roger Waters
I'm an atheist, but people call themselves Christian. Why don't you follow the teachings of Jesus Christ then? I believe he threw the money lenders out of the temple, didn't he? Wasn't that why they crucified him? Because he didn't believe in usury and he didn't believe in the Rothschilds. He didn't believe in investing in the rape and pillage of foreign countries for the benefit of the very rich. Because ordinary people don't benefit from this. You shall go out and buy a dozen eggs or a bottle of milk or anything in North America. Now you can't. Or try and buy a house if you're a young person, or rent a flat or any. Nobody can afford anything. Why? Because Mark Zuckerberg's got it all and Donald Trump and the rest of them. And that's what's happened.
Jimmy Dore
And now we. Now we have a trillionaire. Trillionaire. Elon Musk.
Matt Campbell
Yeah.
Roger Waters
So a trillionaire. Brilliant.
Jimmy Dore
What do you think the. What do you feel the intention or the end game is? You know, considering your lyrics that you wrote, what do you. What do you think the end game is that Your lyrics suggested we're on the road to destruction. What is the end game for the establishment or the wef billionaire class?
Roger Waters
The end game for them? You know, the only thing that you can see is. Or that may be there is that it's a bit like what's her name? Ivanka is buying up Albania now to build a. An underground shelter where she can live in luxury when the world blows up. They're now looking. I believe this is the whole Musk thing about let's get starships and all go and. What all go? What are you talking about? You know, I met him once. I met Elon Musk once about 15, 20 years ago. Somebody invited me to a party for my sins. I was in some parts, yes, I used to go to some parts Sometimes around Christmas, having a part. Oh, you've got to meet this guy. He's brilliant. And he forced me to sit down with Elon Musk. And I sat there and listened to him talking. I thought, this guy's a competitor.
Jimmy Dore
Oh, what happened? We lost him.
Roger Waters
He's a complete idiot. How can he be an idiot, be a trillionaire? Well, he's the living proof that you can be a complete moron. And I mean, maybe he has. No, he doesn't have an iq. All the business. It's like Trump, all the businesses fail. He couldn't even run a casino. Donald Trump, he's failed constantly his entire life. Anyway, I've got off track a bit. We the people want to know the truth. What happened on. On the 11th of September, 2001 in downtown New York City? What happened?
Jimmy Dore
Please, let me just get final question and I'll let you go. I appreciate you taking time. I know it's late in the uk, so I really do appreciate this. And another question from my brother Miles, another brick in the wall. You say we don't need no education, we don't need no thought control. What do you think are the forms of thought control that are being used in our societies to keep us sheep from the Animals album in line? And who do you see are the dogs in our world, the ones who keep the sheep in line?
Roger Waters
Well, the dogs, I guess they're those idiot cops in New York City beating the people in Columbia University, standing up for the rights of their brothers and sisters in Palestine with clubs sent in with their mace and this and that and the other and accusing them of being anti Semites. They're not anti Semites, you morons. They're people who believe in human rights. They're protesting for the human rights of their brothers and sisters. So they're the dogs. And what, what did you want to know about the others? I mean. Yeah, what did I have anything? Yeah, dogs, sheep, the pigs.
Jimmy Dore
Okay.
Roger Waters
Elon Musk is a pig. Trump is a pig. Bill Gates is a pig. The rich ruling class, they're the pigs. It's exactly like in Animal Farm, in George Orwell's you know, short novel Animal Farm. The pigs, they're the ones who steal everything and rule everything, are those people.
Jimmy Dore
And the thought control, would you say, is the media? And now the billionaire owned social media, right?
Roger Waters
Exactly. Yeah, exactly. And it's getting harder and harder and harder to combat it. And now that we see, now that we can all see in front of it, even those, even. Even if the media is trying to tell us the opposite is true. We can see these data centers that are supporting Meta and the whole AI explosion of data farming and data this thing. And they all absolutely admit that it's completely untenable. It's using all the water and all the electricity just to make Mark Zuckerberg richer. That's what they're doing it for. And to control us all so that we never open our mouths, so that Jimmy Dore doesn't exist. Roger Waters isn't allowed to make records anymore because Daniel. Actually, nobody's allowed to make records because Daniel Ek has stolen all the music. And they can make music anyway using AI. You go to Claude or whatever it's called, and write me a song in the style of Roger Waters in the Pink Floyd golden years. And he'll do it. They'll do it. And unfortunately, they'll then tell all the people who subscribe to Spotify, by the way, stop subscribing to Spotify. How dare you. What you're doing is removing music from our lives. You're removing the creative process of writing music from all of our lives by saying, I don't care about it. I don't care what human beings think or feel. I don't care about Neil Young or John Lennon or Joni Mitchell or any of the music, any of the great music or Bach or Beethoven or anything. I'm quite happy for it to be done by a machine. All right? Because it's all blah, blah, blah. And I'm. And I've been brought up to not give a. What it is or whether it's about anything or so. So, yeah, so we live in a very, very difficult and dangerous time. And we're right on the curse, which is why we must support Matt and why we, you know, and why we have to join together and raise our voices. Because it's only from a mass, mass, mass movement when the sound of the voices in the choir drowns out all the Rupert Murdochs, Murdochs and New York Times is. And Fox News and all the rest of them. And our voice becomes loud enough and we start looking after our brothers and sisters, not just in Palestine, but all over the world, including here, including in the United States of America and in Great Britain, where the people are being royally fucked by them. So we have to fight back. That's all I'm saying.
Jimmy Dore
And this is a great way to do it. Crowdfunder.co.uk P911 it would. It would be amazing to see this happen. And I'm glad you're Supporting it. Thank you so much more, so much for doing that. So what is this?
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
This is the event that you're both doing in September.
Jimmy Dore
Oh, and on September in New York, we're both doing turnthetide.911.org so I'll be there maybe. Hopefully we'll get a. I'll get a chance to meet you. That would be a big thrill for me. So that'll be Shake hands. Yes. So that'll be this September in New York. And I really appreciate you getting behind this inquiry and if it happens, it could be a real watershed moment for the western world. So thanks again for doing that and thanks for staying up late and taking time for our show. I really appreciate it. See you in September, brother.
Roger Waters
See September. Thank you very much. It's been a pleasure.
Jimmy Dore
Okay, well, we'll take a break. We'll be right back.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
Roger Waters. That was fantastic, wasn't it? Really, really appreciate it. And we the moderators added a couple of those links for you about the fundraiser for Matt Campbell. And also I think Turning the Tide was also linked as well. Okay, ladies and gentlemen. Hello everyone. That was from Good Vibes. Chrono Hopper. Hello Chrono. What's up fans? I'm curious to hear the particulars about this case or potential case standing, relief demands, etc. All. Also it seems like 911 was almost certainly Israel. Do you think the court, especially New York City is captured? Yes. I don't know if you remember when they were they were doing the primaries for was it mayor of New York? And every question was about do you support Israel? And every panelist eventually supported Israel. What did Mondami end up saying? So Roger, love you brother. I grew up listening to your music. Thank you for being a prominent voice. Your music is still so relevant today. And the machine were up against Trone. Is that Chrono Hopper? Thank you. Chrono Hopper. Ask Roger why he didn't want kids to be educated. The wall. Roger Meadows, my brother in law, Miles, I think asked something similar to that. Roger, thank you. Best of luck on getting that court inquiry. Roger, Great interview. Jimmy and crew. Natalie. Thank you. Natalie. Seems obvious that Giuliani was involved in the COVID up. I agree.
Roger Waters
Uh huh.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
No kidding. You see, remember when he was marching through the city looking like such a leader because the building that they had put the headquarters was blown up. Wasn't that Building 7?
Jimmy Dore
Yeah. He was told not to put the building there, but he not to put the center there. And they were supposed to put it in Brooklyn in case There was an attack on the Trade center and of course his command. That's why he had to be walking through the streets.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
Oh, he looks so.
Jimmy Dore
Because the Command center got blown up. Yeah, brilliant. Like they told him it would. And he put it there anyway. Almost like he planned it.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
Yeah, it seemed like he planned it. Hey, is this Magel Cuddy? We need to start naming and shaming that Rothschilds, Larry Fink and all the other greedy, methusian globalist bankers from the city of London and Wall street who directly fund and benefit from wars and destruction. You know, Magel Cuddy, you know what I find very in. In California, if you see somebody who's shoplifting, they'll put their photos everywhere. You'll see their. You know, they're an impoverished person. They'll blast their photos. How come they don't blast the photos of all these CEOs of all these Wall street banks?
Jimmy Dore
That.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
Because who owns the networks, owns the news. The news stations. How many news stations and newspapers does Bill Gates own? Don't you want to know? I know I do. Let me know if you have a number for me on that one, folks. Freedom. Jordana. Hey, Freedom. Thank you so much, Jordana. Really. Jordan, thank you for your generosity. That is so generous. Hey, how they control thought. PBS, NPR, et cetera. Won't report UAW divesting ND Double A merging us with Israel, BioLabs in Ukraine, etc. Zero coverage. Nothing. Zip. Nada. That's from Active Guardian. Thank you, Active Guardian. Chris Russell. Thank you, Chris Russell. Made a we donation to the cause. Many thanks for bringing this story to us, Natalie Williams. Thank you, Natalie. Thermite is what took down the buildings. Parentheses Israel Garbage Man Tricks 911 is the granddaddy PSYOP of the 2000s. Blowing this wide open will break the dam and is why the Predator class has made it such as a triggering psyop. All right, let's see here.
Jimmy Dore
Let's see.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
Let me see what my note says here. I'm waiting on Mr. Metzger. Oh, it's done. All right, let me see. Where did it go? Let's see. Okay.
Mike McRae
All right.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
Waiting to admit.
Jimmy Dore
Hi, I'm here with Kurt. Mexican. We only have him for a short time tonight because he has to go to a fucking party. Yeah, apparently that's a good enough excuse to skip work these days.
Kurt Mexican
It's my. It's my.
Jimmy Dore
I'm sorry I can't make it in, Doc. I got. I gotta go to a party.
Kurt Mexican
I have a little presentation to give.
Jimmy Dore
I have a party I'm going to a party. Okay, I'll take a lot of. Is this like when Tom Dreeson was late for. To open up for Frank Sinatra because he was at a softball game?
Kurt Mexican
That happened.
Jimmy Dore
That happened.
Kurt Mexican
Good for Tom Driesen, because Frank Sinatra, I don't know if you know, was a huge piece of shit.
Jimmy Dore
I heard good things about him, actually.
Kurt Mexican
Oh, well. I heard terrible things.
Jimmy Dore
Well, I think he's like a lot of people. He's got a good side and a bad side. It's a mixed bag. He didn't he, like, take care of people's medical bills and somebody's bills and he didn't care. What's that?
Kurt Mexican
Yeah, Marilyn Monroe's.
Jimmy Dore
No, I heard he took care of people like that.
Kurt Mexican
He's MK Ultra. They're having a hearing.
Jimmy Dore
And he stood. He stood up for Sammy Davis Jr. And blacks in general and stuff. So he. There's a lot of good to him. Come on. It's not all bad.
Kurt Mexican
Listen. Yeah, the mind control sex leave thing, I try not to hold it against him because I do like that. He did help with civil rights.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah. So you think he was a. Well, let's get into it.
Kurt Mexican
Yeah.
Jimmy Dore
Oh, hang on. I got the wrong thing. Go to Steph.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
All right, ladies and gentlemen, I just got shared another link for the fundraiser that I'm putting in. That I'm putting in. That's it. Right? That I'm putting in. All right. Oh, by the way, ladies and gentlemen, if you go to. Let me tell you right now, because they're doing a flash sale. And if you go to the Jimmy Dore merch store at jimmy doorshow.dashery.com, i'll say it again. The Jimmy Dore show, dot dash. They're doing up to 27% off on our merch for July 3rd, 4th and 5th. Back to Jim.
Jimmy Dore
That's for. That's for the country. That's for the country. We're doing that for the country's birthday. That's what that is about. So you know this book that we've covered this on the show. Chaos, Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties. Tom o'. Neill. Now, Kurt, should I play that video now that you sent me?
Kurt Mexican
Oh, well, first let's establish who he is, because I think it's. There's a key in here. I met him. Greg Fitzsimmons is friends with him.
Jimmy Dore
So that guy who wrote that book talked about how MKUltra the 60s were. Now representative Anna Paulina Luna chairing a hearing where he's testifying to let everybody know about this, which makes me suspect of this whole hearing. If she's in charge of it, does it make you suspect a little Kurt or. No.
Kurt Mexican
There's so much weirdness around her, I don't know what to make of any it. She's the one that that guy was recorded saying he was eating at the Knights of Malta to have her killed. Her opponent in that race. Yeah, that was a big story. Then there's some with Tulsi Gabbard getting those documents. And now they're saying, you know, she works for a cult and this and that. But Tulsi was getting MK ULTRA documents, supposedly, and I thought she was doing it in conjunction with Luna. So I don't really know the whole backstory there, but there's something very bizarre about the whole thing. But MKUltraS drew real and you were hearing hearings about it, and it directly relates to Tyler Robinson.
Jimmy Dore
Directly. So she tweeted out. According to today's expert witness, Jack Ruby and Charles Manson were MKUltra assets. What? That's preposterous. It's just a normal case of a low nut shooter of a low nut, that's all. Oldest crime in the book, right? Come on. If MK ULTRA had their way, Charles Manson would have been in the Monkees.
Kurt Mexican
I feel like he was, but I could be wrong.
Jimmy Dore
I would have made for a very different TV show experience songs like Take the Last Train, the Spa Ranch.
Kurt Mexican
Yeah, he never wrote a song that good, let's face it.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah. So here, let's listen to some of his testimony.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
Is it in your expert opinion that Jack Ruby and Manson were assets of the intelligence agency specifically pertaining to MK Ultra.
Jimmy Dore
Were they MK Ultra victims?
Kurt (Expert Witness)
Yeah, theoretically. Manson, I've never been able to prove. Absolutely. Jack Ruby, I believe this is something else. The Warren Commission investigation on the Warren Commission was Alan Dulles, the former CIA director who authorized and ran MK Ultra until he was fired by President Kennedy. The liaison to the committee for the CIA who handled the information coming from the CIA back and forth to the Warren Commission was Richard Helms, who was a direct supervisor of Jolly West. They knew who west was. They knew that what west was capable of and what they had paid him to do and what he had reported to them that he could do, including including inducing mental disorders in people.
Jimmy Dore
Said Kurt. Who is Jolly West?
Kurt Mexican
The guy that killed an elephant with acid, that was working for MK Ultra and he would introduce himself at parties that way that he once killed an elephant with acid.
Jimmy Dore
Okay, so he was in charge of the MK Ultra.
Kurt Mexican
Sidney Gottlieb's a big name, but keep in mind that's just the MK Ultra part. It got worse and worse and worse. So these are the names you always hear. Now the thing that's interesting is I thought when you as the great Bill Maher told us there was that thing with the acid in the 50s.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah.
Kurt Mexican
They already had a hearing about. But now it's time for another one of those CIA. What was the hearing called where they got brought that stuff out?
Jimmy Dore
Was that the church commit.
Kurt Mexican
Yeah, yeah, we need another church committee because right now there's a. I doubt they'll comply. But remember, Trump's supposed to unredactively release all the rest of the Epstein files if anybody bothered to look through them. All kinds of MK Ultra stuff in there, just up and down and there's a lot. The program never stopped. And in case you're wondering why your friends don't know anything, my guess is that's why.
Jimmy Dore
Okay, let's. Let's listen a little bit more. So he's talking about the guy who was the liaison to bring information to the Warren Commission. Was the guy running MK Ultra. That's what this guy. Jolly West. Okay, what's that? I'm sorry.
Kurt Mexican
Sidney Gottlieb was the guy I thought was like the main name at the time, but it was under Allen Dulles. Allen Dulles was the Dulles brother. Was the guy really bringing it in? And he worked under a Jolly West. I don't know his exact rank in the program, but he's CIA puke.
Kurt (Expert Witness)
That he could do. Including inducing mental disorders in people. That was never disclosed to the Commission as far as anyone knows. So I believe that west was.
Jimmy Dore
So that would be pertinent because if they knew that, if the people who are running MK Ultra knew that they could induce mental diseases or mental conditions in people, then they of course would use that on somebody like a patsy or somebody like Jack Ruby or somebody like anybody. Right.
Kurt Mexican
Make a sleeper agent Jimmy that doesn't know that they're supposed to pop off at a certain time. So you can implant that in someone and then trigger them with phrases and phone calls. And just like I think happened when the president of. Was it Slovakia?
Jimmy Dore
Slovakia, yeah.
Kurt Mexican
He's going to investigate Pfizer and a 72 year old man with no history of violence all of a sudden shoots him in the face.
Jimmy Dore
Yep.
Kurt Mexican
This is proprietary tech for corporations and governments now.
Jimmy Dore
Okay.
Kurt (Expert Witness)
Put in there to keep Jack Ruby from telling his story.
Theo Vaughn
Wow.
Jimmy Dore
In closing, I just want to thank
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
you all for being here today.
Jimmy Dore
Let me play that through without stopping.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
Is it in your expert opinion that Jack Ruby and Manson were assets of the intelligence agency specifically pertaining to MK ultra? Were they MK ultravic?
Kurt (Expert Witness)
Yeah, theoretically. Manson, I've never been able to prove. Absolutely. Jack Robert Ruby, I believe this is something else. The Warren Commission investigation on the Warren Commission was Alan Dulles, the former CIA director who authorized and ran MK Ulcer until he was fired by President Kennedy. The liaison to the committee for the CIA who handled the information coming from the CIA back and forth to the Warrant Commission was Richard Helms, who was a direct supervisor of Jolly West. They knew who west was. They knew that what west was capable of and what they had paid him to do and what he had reported to them that he could do, including inducing mental disorders in people. That was never disclosed to the commission, as far as anyone knows. So I believe that west was put in there to keep Jack Ruby from telling his story.
Mike McRae
Wow.
Jimmy Dore
Not. Not Jack Ruby too. The guy who the feds magically parted like that was the Red Sea so he could have a clean shot at Oswald. He was an MK slave too.
Roger Waters
No.
Kurt Mexican
Well, remember he left his dog in the car, that he loved that he never would have done that. No, I don't always say how weird that was, that his dog, he always had his little dog. He left it in the car. That's because he's probably under suggestion. And Charles Manson, if you look up Danny Trejo, the guy played Machete, that actor, he was in prison with Manson when he was hanging around Mexican gangsters. And Manson could hypnotize them to get high on heroin. There were three of them in the cell and Manson was able to hypnotize two of them to get a heroin high and the other one couldn't because he'd never done heroin. So his body didn't know how to feel like it was on heroin. So Manson had the power to do that. Where'd he get that from? Where? How do you learn that so well? I think it's CIA and you can go look that story up. He's told it on a bunch of podcasts. Danny Trejo, that's a really crazy story where if you had done heroin in your life, he could hypnotize you and you would get high and you. That's had the power of that stuff and Jolly west was an expert in it. They've been using it for quite a long time.
Jimmy Dore
So I flatly refuse to believe any of this, Kurt. I mean, it doesn't. Doesn't mean it isn't true. It just means these facts don't really fit in with my worldview at the moment.
Kurt Mexican
And that's right, Jimmy, you look right into this scorpion pendant and just keep saying that and we'll be fine.
Jimmy Dore
So here's what I find interesting. Is that Anna Paulina Luna, she's a APAC toady.
Kurt Mexican
Yeah, well, that's most of the government.
Jimmy Dore
So. I mean, that is most of the government. Right?
Kurt Mexican
I mean, I. Yeah, I think Massey was the last one that they don't. They don't own.
Jimmy Dore
Right. So I don't.
Kurt Mexican
I think she's monarched herself, by the way, because of her Wonder Woman cosplay hot chick outfit and every other bizarre thing about her. I would wager she's some kind of MK monarch. Most of the people you see running these new hot politicians that seem like astroturfed, they are.
Jimmy Dore
So. So this is from now when I studied advertising in college, which I did. I got my degree in marketing communications, and I was supposed to go become a copywriter for advertising. But instead I. There was a comedy boom and I could make $500 a week just telling jokes without any talent. And so I decided to jump. But here's what he. So he. In advertising school, he's considered the father of advertising. And he was this brilliant, genius guy. But here's what he said. The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested largely by the men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. So he's talking about a greater form of mind control, which is what everybody else is under if you're not.
Kurt Mexican
That's the mass version.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah, that's the mass version of it.
Kurt Mexican
Scalable. That's why tech people love it.
Jimmy Dore
It's like. Yeah, and it's. It's like that. That Rolling Stone song about, you know, I want my shirts to be as white as my. I forget how that hold my shirts. It's that whole song about how advertising controls what you think. Why can't. I can't think of the lyrics right now. That's. I can't get no satisfaction. I know, but anyway, here is the goyim. Know so Mickey Cohen, Jewish Mafia. There's Jack Rubenstein, which is Jack Ruby, also Jewish Mafia. Lee Harvey Oswald's assassin. Jack Ruby idolized Cohen and dated his girlfriend, Candy Barr. Candy Barr. What was she in a punk band or something? Come on, Candy bar.
Kurt Mexican
My Gen X brain can only interpret that name one way, Jimmy. Punk band.
Jimmy Dore
Mickey Cohen ran a gambling operation in the Ambassador hotel. That's where RFK Jr. RFK was assassinated. Yeah. The Jewish mob's concerns about JFK's is Israel politics. Okay, so let's move on to this is what. This is what RFK has had to say about MK Ultra.
Unknown Expert/Guest
The CIA is allowed to propagandize around the world. And it's the biggest funder of journalism today in the world. It spends 10 billion a year through USAID to fund journalism all over the world. It owns some of the biggest newspapers and magazines, the most influential in the developing world, in Europe and around the world. There was a. In the CIA's charter it says. And there was an act called the Smith Mundt act that makes it illegal for the CIA to propagandize Americans. In 1973 there were congressional hearings that came out of the House Elect Assassination Committee hearings. When all the CIA secrets were revealed. They were called the family jewels. It was all of the worst secrets of the CIA that they all kept in one place. And that was released during the 1970s during these hearings from the Church Committee and the House Elected Assassination Committee. And Americans learned for the first time about Operation Mockingbird, but also about MKUltra MK, Naomi MKDietrich. These were all of the MK stands for mind Control. And the CIA had these programs at Fort Detrick, but at 220 universities around our country and in Latin America and Canada, experimenting with ways to control the human mind. LSD came out of that program. And you know, they were using psychoactive drugs, they were using torture, they were using sensory deprivation, they were using noise. Noise. And they were figuring out out of control individuals, including how to develop Manchurian candidates, unwilling assassins through hypnosis and these other techniques. But also how do you control whole societies? Through destruction of institutions, the propagation of lies, instigated violence and sort of the orchestrated diminishment of faith in the institutions of society and the mistrust among people. So they had all of these, you know, they were experimenting and you know, it wasn't just the us. The same thing was happening in Russia and in other parts of the world. But you know, we had a very, very sophisticated program that violated a lot of American values.
Roger Waters
How effective do you think the MK Ultra program was.
Unknown Expert/Guest
Well, I mean, there's a lot of things that came out of it and there's a lot of that. You know, it's hard to tell because a lot of it was top secret. I mean, it's very, you know, it's a really interesting and a very surprisingly well documented history. But, you know, I don't want it. But the term conspiracy theorist was. There was a memo that went out to all of those journalists who were associated with the CIA in 1964 where they said that anybody who questions the Kennedy assassination, you know, the Warren Report, which was the report that was done by a commission that was appointed by lbj. And the commission was essentially told an individual. Individual members were told, you got to say that this was a single gun and do not let people talk about a conspiracy theory. The named head of the commission was Earl Warren, who was a Supreme Court justice. But the real head of the commission was Allen Dulles, who had been the head of the CIA, who my uncle, who had fired. When my uncle died, he told the jury, a young journalist, oh, he thought he was a God, I'm glad the little shit is dead. And you know, we now know that the CIA was directly involved in my uncle's assassination. And in the, you know, 60 year cover up, they continue to be involved. They're still not releasing, you know, the last assassination documents that are required by the JFK Papers Act. Assassination Papers Act.
Jimmy Dore
So there you go.
Kurt Mexican
Trump ordered it. It's not happening.
Jimmy Dore
What's that? Say it again.
Kurt Mexican
He's in the Trump administration and not and can't get. And by the way, just to make it a little creepier for you, Sean Ryan, AKA Sean Palmisano, that's his real name. I'm pretty sure he's an MK Monarch. Anybody that would be a CIA drug runner in Columbia turned podcaster, Real good shot. He's part of it. And I already know he's been spoken to. I know people spoke to him about it because if you recall, his friend was the one who had the Tesla truck with the shooting in the fireworks. We still got no. No answers on any of that. I'd wager RFK has been through some treatment himself because of his unwillingness. Remember, he stayed in a tent with Roger Ailes on a kibbutz for reasons we don't know it to this day, but it's weird as hell. There's a girl, a woman named Deborah Jaffe that I just had on Mystery Boys. Okay. And you should bring her on because her dad Was the daughter of the former ABC News Moscow and Hong Kong bureau chief from 1961 to 1965. FBI informant and he's later accused of being a double agent and sleeper agent by the CIA and FBI. He was Ukrainian, Jewish, served in the oss. All the reporters, Walter Cronkite especially is a piece of garbage. CIA garbage. That's why he's the narrator at Bohemian Grove, by the way. But the stuff she was telling us was unbelievable. But the whole media, I guess I'm trying to say this explains Chris Cuomo. Any. Any lingering questions you had. So MK Ultra and Mockingbird. But Monarch, RFK ain't saying it. And Sean Palmisano ain't saying it and Luna ain't saying it because I think they're in it. Monarch. That's the bad one. We've had guests that were part of Monarch. Kathy o' Brien and that doctor who was on Juliet Engel. It was Monarch. You never hear him say it, but I like to say it over and over to bother whoever is trying to hide it.
Jimmy Dore
So RFK went on to say that. I guess what I'm trying to say is Israel did nothing wrong.
Kurt Mexican
And that's my final point, Jimmy. It's not just the name of my old band.
Jimmy Dore
Anyway, let's. I forget what this is. Let me play it.
Narrator (Pavlov's Dog Story)
And now the story.
Jimmy Dore
Oh, so this is how they. This is how this is. It'll show you how they mind control large swaths of people.
Narrator (Pavlov's Dog Story)
And now the story of a dog named Drew and his master, Pavlov. Every day, Pavlov would feed Drew. Drew's mouth would water every time he was fed. One day, Pavlov rang a bell just before feeding time. Pavlov rang the bell each day just before feeding. One day the bell rang and Drew began to salivate, but there was no food. This involuntary reaction made Drew one of the most famous dogs in history. Together with his best friend Pavlov, Drew had proven the scientific theory of conditioning. It turns out that a wide variety of reactions can be triggered in similar fashion. Now imagine that Pavlov is a news network and viewers are all dogs. By repeatedly delivering negative information in association with trigger words or names, the head of a news organization could poison the minds of millions. So that any mention of a person's name would instantly create negative, aggressive or fear based responses. Psychologists call this emotional transference. In a time of calamity, one could influence purchase habits. Remember the great toilet paper run of 2020? There was no real shortage of toilet paper, but the focus on toilet paper Shortages by mass media resulted in hoarding which created a real world shortage. On a more interesting note, across the United States there was a dramatic increase in the installation and use of bidets, a European alternative to toilet paper. The mass transition to bidets due to the perceived shortage of toilet paper is called behavior modification. Behavior modification was the basis of a decades long series of CIA funded human experiments in the United States and Canada known as MK Ultra. MKUltra used drugs like LSD and amphetamines on sometimes unwilling subjects. Combined with isolation, fear and bombardment of repetitious messages, MKULTRA pushed the limits of human experimentation and mind control. Consider the FDA and our medical institutions have released massive amounts of amphetamines and opioids on the American people over the last 40 years. While simultaneously a smaller and smaller number of politically charged elites dictate what shows, shows we watch, what news we see and what messages we are allowed to hear. Many of these people put profit in politics over civil rights and the Constitution. One has to wonder, did MK ULTRA ever end? Or did it take over the world? With this kind of power, one could condition the world into believing a safe medication was deadly or a deadly treatment was safe and effective. All by transferring the triggered hatred of a political figure. And it all started with a dog named Drew.
Jimmy Dore
Which is, which is.
Kurt Mexican
It continued just spoiler alert. Yeah, it continued doing all these baffling things, you see.
Jimmy Dore
Did MK ULTRA end? Kurt? Don't ask Bill Maher, he still.
Kurt Mexican
I know what things are.
Jimmy Dore
He's still surprised the government security agencies don't have our best interests at heart.
Kurt Mexican
They went in with the bet for freedom. Okay. That's what he said about Iraq.
Jimmy Dore
No kidding.
Kurt Mexican
Yeah, but think of 9, 11. See, this is what I've been babbling about non stop is the triggering. They have these trigger phrases. I'm worried about the future of our democracy. I'm worried about the future of our democracy. You heard him say behavioral modification. What did Thomas Crook's parents do for a living? Why they worked in behavioral modification? Hey, the Sandy Hook kid. Do you know that he was put in a special program in Yale for his troubles? And it worked so well. He killed 27 children. Yeah. So once you look into even a little bit, scratch the surface, a pattern begins to form, put it that way. And it's real noticeable. This is all remedial shit. Way behind. All the victims are knocking around, snitching. You can find out if you want to. We've had them on the show. You could find out everything they did without a Hearing. Most of the hearings are for show. I find it shocking that we even got a hearing because this is stuff that Bill Maher would consider fringe. I don't know if it's okay in my Overton window to accept it, you know.
Jimmy Dore
So there's one more part of these hearings that I want to show you, and it involves Tyler Robinson. So here happened today in Congress discussing MK ULTRA and how it could potentially be used to target a President, Charlie Kirk or Martin Luther King. Let's listen what happened. Here we go, Here we go.
Doctor (Congressional Hearing)
What are the possibilities that, that what we've learned in MK Ultra now that it has advanced so much to algorithms and the computer and getting to loners, that some of these loaners could, through this just massive propagation of whatever you're doing, could cause someone to maybe take a shot at a president.
Kurt (Expert Witness)
I know there's a lot of speculation out there about the Butler shooting and I guess even the Charlie Kirk shooting.
Kurt Mexican
Why me?
Kurt (Expert Witness)
I just hate to speculate because I don't know. I have no firsthand knowledge whether those guys were program through radio waves or through their computer activity. So I would never hazard a guess except to say what I've already said. That they develop means that we've never been told about many, many years ago. And I imagine they've evolved to be much more effective. Now, let me interrupt you one more
Doctor (Congressional Hearing)
time and I apologize again. But don't you think that they could cast this broad net through these algorithms and other things and maybe they don't know the exact person it's going to affect, but they know what type of person it's going to affect and they know it's going to happen. And that way they can. They can't predict when it's going to happen, but they think it will happen. And then that way they can sort of wash their hands of this whole thing and say we didn't have anything to do with it, but in effect they really did because they, they put this out there and they continue to put it out there to whatever method you're talking about. Go ahead, guys. I'm sorry, ma', am, if you want
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
to jump in, she's with nih.
Doctor (Congressional Hearing)
Okay, Doctor, go ahead.
Jimmy Dore
It sounds to me like you're describing something like the Martin Luther King assassination. The FBI didn't carry it out, but it created such a climate, they're denouncing King as the most dangerous man in America, putting out all this material about how he was helping communists, that they must have thought it's going to filter down somebody Will take action and then we can say we didn't have anything
Theo Vaughn
to do do with it.
Doctor (Congressional Hearing)
And James Earl Ray was a third rate thief. He made an incredible shot. One foot on a commotion.
Jimmy Dore
What? What? Kurt, go ahead.
Kurt Mexican
This is the lot. So this is where they're whitewashing it? No, that James Earl Ray is an asset. That just like all the others. Thomas Crooks, his parents, behavioral modification. There's a handler always sure they do that other thing where they spread it out. But the. Those big ones, they wouldn't risk it like that. They would make sure it went down. They want him dead and they want him dead publicly. So we all see, just like Charlie and just like JFK, it's called the King Kill 33. And it's what's called a psychodrama. You know what psychodrama is?
Jimmy Dore
No.
Kurt Mexican
It's a form of therapy where you enact. Why? You know, you have a pillow and you're like, you didn't love me. All that shit.
Unknown Expert/Guest
Yeah.
Kurt Mexican
Well, it's also a form of mind control. So you combine the trauma with psychodrama. Okay. And you put the whole nation through it and you can alter reality. Which they did after they killed jfk. Some of some people dissociate. So when it's obvious that the Jack Ruby thing doesn't make any sense. Yeah, some people are going to just associate and not look into it. That's the thing that they're. They're mainly planning for people still wearing masks. All the information will tell you that never worked, but people still wear them. That's the trickle down. These assassinations are assets 100%. They've used them for a long, long time. Go look at the last rounded up FBI patsies. All of them were put through that. So they're kind of the guy from
Jimmy Dore
the NBC Unabomber, for f sake.
Kurt Mexican
Yeah. So no, it's not that. It just trickled down. Don't ex. What do you call exculpate? The CIA, they've been doing this for a while. Even Hess, Rudolf Hess testifying at Nuremberg. That wasn't Hess, that's another guy. And all the Nazis in the. In the booth were laughing at it because it was so ridiculous. Think of the Dalai Lama where they take a small kid, brainwash him to think he's the guy that they just replaced. That's why the CIA and the Nazis love the Dalai Lama. And so you. They first did it. Deborah Jaffe, you should talk to her. Because her dad was a Korean veteran and he saw so many atrocities that he you either dissociate or you go crazy. So we learned how to do this from Tavistock, which was studying shell shock after World War I. And they learned that traumatized people can be mind controlled. So B.F. skinner's experiments with rats, where they put them in the shock cage. What they found was, after they released them, the rats, when they're stressed out and have cortisol, what they'll do is return to their torture box for comfort. So think of everyone in America that self medicates or does something destructive when they're stressed, they're returning to their. Because this entire thing they're putting us in is a big torture box. Big B.F. skinner Pavlov dog box. And that's what they got planned. It's called Gestalt, too. It has a name I was calling MK Retard, and I was totally wrong. It's Gestalt.
Doctor (Congressional Hearing)
Put one foot in a. In a bathtub, leaning out of a window, basically. And the next day, the or that afternoon, all the shrubbery was cut in front of the flop house he was staying in. There's a lot on that one that will never be discussed. I have some friends that were there, so I guess I could. I'm on pretty close to firsthand knowledge, but, yeah, I'm sorry. I'm probably gonna get audited. When I walk out of the room, I just.
Unknown Expert/Guest
I know it.
Mike McRae
So.
Doctor (Congressional Hearing)
Thank you, chair lady. I yield back my four seconds.
Jimmy Dore
So I just wanted to. There's a thing that the darpa, the US Military, and it's called Laser Induced Plasma Effect Technology. What is that, Jimmy?
Kurt Mexican
It can make UFOs in the sky.
Jimmy Dore
It uses lasers to create a ball of plasma, or ionized air in the atmosphere, then modulates it with a second laser to produce audible sounds or speech that seems to come from thin air, voice to skull. So that's how they can put voices in your head?
Kurt Mexican
Mm. David. I create a voice saying to pick out this book at the bookstore, then go to such. And so a psychic, I'm dying to ask him if he thinks it could be that, because they've had that tech since the 60s, and it's in. It was in a Metal Gear Solid video game when I was younger. This has been around a long time. You can find the demonstrations of it where kids are in a college and the professor is making them hear music in their head that's not playing because he's beaming it into their skull. They've had this for a long, long time.
Jimmy Dore
So this creates sound waves in the air that anyone Nearby with normal hearing can perceive, and so they all of a sudden hear a voice, and they think it's coming from inside their head.
Kurt Mexican
Mm.
Jimmy Dore
And reports from sources like Military Times and Live Science note progress towards intelligible speech. Potentially deployable, but it's acoustic output from plasma, not neural insertion. That's according to grok.
Kurt Mexican
So they haven't needed neural insertion for quite some time. Neural insertion? That neuralink chip. We get the term tinfoil hat because the CIA experimented on Leonard Kyle, a really smart guy that had patents on Polaroid stuff. They put the chip in his head because unfortunately, just like James Holmes, the Joker, the Aurora shooter, unfortunately, his therapist was a CIA behavioral modification guy. Yeah, and every time the stinking CIA is near something, there's always a mass shooting. The fight. Wow. The. The unit bomber went to Harvard, you say? All the finest Ivy League schools churn these guys out. Isn't that something?
Jimmy Dore
So there's also a thing called microwave auditory effect called the Fray effect. It's pulsed microwaves. Radio frequency that can induce perceived sounds like clicks or buzzing inside your head.
Kurt Mexican
Or Havana Syndrome.
Jimmy Dore
Havana syndrome, exactly. They thought they heard crickets. Thermostatic expansion in the brain tissue. Research dates back to the 60s.
Kurt Mexican
Yeah, yeah, it was a mind control race. That's when the Manchurian Candidate, starring the great Frank Sinatra, who's a scumbag. MK Handler, just like Bob Hope was. Just like the whole Rat Pack. Oh, by the way, Sinatra, it wasn't just Sammy Davis Jr. That was a Satanist. Sinatra's mother, supposedly a Catholic, ran a speakeasy back during Prohibition. Her name was Hat Pin Dolly. You know why? Because she trafficked women and did abortions out of the speakeasy. And Frankie Blue, you know, Skinny Frank or whatever. Remember the poster, was arrested for seducing a woman? Yeah, that's a nice way of saying he's a male prostitute. Oh, okay, so he was arrested for male prostitution. They dress it up like ring a ding, like it's cool. But no, it's not. I recommend the Secret of Minnie's Moose, which is on YouTube because taken out lol, you can find it. And it's by Tracy Twyman. And she deep dives on Frank because, you know, Woody Allen didn't have that train set in the attic that Mia Farrow's daughter said. But you know who did have a big train set was Frank. Frank might have been Mia's mother, father as well.
Jimmy Dore
So there's also a thing, Kurt, called optogenetics. It uses light to control genetically modified neurons it requires injecting light sensitive proteins into your brain. DARPA has funded this for brain interfaces and. Wow. So there's lots of stuff that they can do. And they've been able to do this since at least the 60s. So imagine where they are with it now.
Kurt Mexican
Well, because after Korea, those servicemen didn't come home. Deborah Jaffe's dad is one of those Koreans. Or, you know, he came home, but they didn't want to come back. They said the US had used bioweapons on North Korea. And obviously that can't be true. So they must have been brainwashed. And so we realized we needed to learn how to brainwash. That's why L. Ron Hubbard was so pop popular with the CIA, because he said he could do the same thing with Scientology. And guess what? He could.
Jimmy Dore
Guess what? He could.
Kurt Mexican
So there was an arms race, just like the nuclear race. There's two other races they don't talk about as much. The underground bunker race. So that's continuity of government. They don't like you bringing that up at a hearing, Mr. President, we cannot
Jimmy Dore
have a mine shaft gap. Remember that.
Kurt Mexican
Oh, yeah, right. Okay. And then they also had a mind control race. And it's all justified by fighting the commies. So we got to fight the commies. If you'll notice, they justify the most foul shit you ever heard of in your life. And they were. They've been doing it all that time until the Soviet Union fell. Then we get terrorism because now these control methods work really well and rich people are putting their kids in it. Like the guy that shot Reagan, whose family friends with the Bushes.
Jimmy Dore
Yep.
Kurt Mexican
Oh, wait. Or like Osama bin Laden's rich family that were also friends with the Bushes. And Osama, you know, they go, oh, he was going to discos and stuff, and all of a sudden he's a crazy jihadi. Yeah, I bet it's worldwide.
Jimmy Dore
So why.
Kurt Mexican
We get all kinds of.
Jimmy Dore
Why do you.
Kurt Mexican
There's a emotional trigger to see Osama bin Laden now for us. So psychodrama.
Jimmy Dore
So I think even maybe a bigger question is why now are they allowing Congress to talk about this?
Kurt Mexican
Because you'll never put it together. And like the Epstein files, not enough for a prosecution, but there's enough for anybody that wants to know what happened. You compete. If you're not a moron or a liar, you can go through them files and you can figure out exactly what's going on just by what they blacked out alone, you can figure out what's going on. And because they put that Out. And this punk ass country did nothing. Everybody in this country did nothing. That gives them permission to do worse shit. They want to reveal themselves. Your real rulers want to reveal themselves. And as they get more depraved all around you, which they are, you're going to see the externalization of the hierarchy. It's coming now. They're tired of lying about what they're doing. Everybody's into it. People. Some people always wear a mask. So they just need to get us to that so they can come out and say, yeah, this is what we do. And they already are doing it in ways where they're like, hey, I think it's wrong to kill kids. Is it? We're already almost there.
Jimmy Dore
I do. The mask thing is, it's. You know, it's amazing. That video about Pavlov's dog about how they could get people to think that a harmless medicine that's actually a miracle drug is poison for you. And a thing that's poison for you is actually a miracle drug. They got worship authority and they used it. And they used Trump Derangement Syndrome to do it.
Kurt Mexican
Well, all these syndromes, where are they coming from? Well, they're media manufactured mind viruses, of course, and that comes from the CIA because they wanted to steer QAnon. Q was Jeffrey Epstein, that the character in the, in the LARP called Q was Jeffrey Epstein. Steve Bannon helped build that game with another game design. So in the files, and they're all. They're talking about how we can affect politics by making people feel they're part of something bigger. And how do we reach these people that don't care, like gamers and. Well, that's a real fun game to piece that together. And especially if I have a touch of the autism and I like math problems and codes and I can direct. They could direct you into whatever they want. It's. They're doing it now all the time. I mean, it's the, the old. Once you see it, you can't unsee it. You've seen it. Everybody's seen it. They could say what it, whatever they want about it, but it is what it is.
Jimmy Dore
Well, all I can say, Kurt, is that I find this interesting. You're like the first to bring up apac, which is interesting.
Unknown Expert/Guest
It's interesting.
James Corbett (voiceover)
I mean,
Kurt Mexican
that's my trigger phrase.
Jimmy Dore
It's just interesting.
Kurt Mexican
Israel did nothing wrong. That's what I want to leave everybody with.
Jimmy Dore
I don't want any trouble.
Kurt Mexican
I don't want any trouble. Israel did nothing wrong. No need to look into It.
Jimmy Dore
Okay, so there's more. I could go. I could go on and on.
Kurt Mexican
So skull to brain. I think that's the chip, but voice to skull is the. Oh, it says voice to skull under there, so maybe she's talking about the same thing.
Jimmy Dore
So brain to skull technology, formerly known as brain computer interfaces or neurotechnology, involves decoding or. Or influencing brain activity. Recent breakthroughs range from non invasive AI powered thought decoders to partially invasive implants positioned on the brain surface but beneath the scalp or skull. The field of neurotechnology can be categorized into distinct approaches ranging from medical interventions to commercial thought to tech systems. You know, I have been contacted by people high up in the nsa, okay. Who say they are victims of this.
Kurt Mexican
Yep.
Jimmy Dore
That the government is doing this to them.
Kurt Mexican
It sounded crazy at the time, didn't it?
Jimmy Dore
I thought it was crazy.
Kurt Mexican
But no, they're saying they have these weapons now. They just came out and said, we have these direct energy weapons that will formally deride it as Jewish space lasers. Well, turns out we do have those. Who'd have thought?
Jimmy Dore
Who the thought.
Kurt Mexican
Who could have thought? They're saying we have them now. The plasma thing, I think I sent that to you, like, a year ago because I've been talking about that for a while. Yeah, is that something?
Jimmy Dore
And the headline here is voice to skull technology and electronic harassment and mind reading headphones.
Kurt Mexican
And if anybody out there happens, agenda where your iPhone reads. What? Was it what you were thinking?
Jimmy Dore
Yeah.
Kurt Mexican
I've never experienced that, but I think it's because I'm kind of a scattered dude, so I don't give it enough to go on because it's mapping out brain signals. But we get the term tinfoil hat from Leonard Kyle, mutilated with a brain chip by the CIA. Microwaves. As you know, you can't put tinfoil in the microwave, right? Because it reflects microwaves and will cause a fire. So he would put that. He used to put a metal trash can on his head to block the pain of what they were doing to him. Then at the. At the funny farm he was in, they gave him tinfoil, and he'd wrap it around his head to stop the pain of the microwaves being shot in his head by the CIA. And today, that man's pain is a joke we all have about people who are conspiracy theorists. Is that. Isn't that a great organization? Thanks, CIA. You're the best.
Jimmy Dore
Here's. Here's one last video I'll play for you. Kurt, I know you got to jump because you have A party to go
Kurt Mexican
to do a presentation of slides and to be a big deal.
Jimmy Dore
This is a CIA whistleblower. He was. We already covered a lot of what he said about COVID but here, let's listen to what he says. The CIA refused to provide information necessary to understand. Understand why analytic standards at the CIA were violated.
Kurt Mexican
The CIA illegally monitored the computer and phone usage of Digg personnel, their investigations
Jimmy Dore
and contact with whistleblowers. These were Americans being spied upon illegally while executing duties directed by the President and under the authority of the Director National Intelligence.
Kurt Mexican
One CIA contractor assisting with the Diggs investigation into the events that transpired between 2022 and 2023 was fired by the CIA one day after meeting with the dig. When the dig ceased operations, the CIA
Jimmy Dore
also took back 40 boxes of JFK
Kurt Mexican
files and MK Ultra files being processed for declassification by DNI Gabbard.
Jimmy Dore
So that story that came out, that said they went and took MK Ultra and JFK stuff out of Tulsi Gabbard's office against her will, and then of course, she said it did, and she was, of course, pretending that they didn't, but they did it.
Kurt Mexican
And that Now, a cult leader. The thing I've been talking about for a while now the news is saying it. Notice now it's a problem suddenly. So that's all part of this. And just to be clear, they will never disclose what they did. If they ever disclose what they did, even the losers in this country might pull their heads out of their ass and do something about it. Because it's that evil. Remember the satanic panic that was part of this, okay? To cover over very real, very dark crimes that they still do. Don't forget the Wayfair kids and all those illegal immigrant children that are still missing about 300,000. Yeah. Where are they? Well, our leaders have a 22,000 child a day habit, let's put it that way.
Jimmy Dore
So here, when we play that video you sent me.
Kurt Mexican
Oh, this is where. Because Tom, like, he didn't like to speculate, but as you know, I love to speculate.
Jimmy Dore
Tom, the guy who wrote. Who was just testifying, and he wrote that book, Chaos. He was there.
Kurt Mexican
Yeah. This is his first testimony at Skank Fest with Fitz, Dog in A, me and Duncan.
Jimmy Dore
Okay, let's listen. Ted Kaczynski, for those of you who don't know when he was. He got a scholarship to Harvard when he was, what, 16. And in Harvard, he underwent these horrific experiments.
Kurt Mexican
They didn't show that in Doogie Howser.
Jimmy Dore
No, no.
Mike McRae
And.
Jimmy Dore
Dookie Howser was mkultra.
Kurt Mexican
Well, how would you become a 16 year old fucking doctor?
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
It's true.
Kurt Mexican
I don't gotta do no 20 years of research to know that. They should have me at that testimony. Yeah, I'd bust the whole thing out.
Jimmy Dore
All right, so you're not in control. And the people in control are the most evil mfers you can ever imagine.
Kurt Mexican
You don't get to meet them. They're behind the scenes, the people that you see in control. Think of them killing JFK and taking over the whole country, everybody.
Jimmy Dore
Which they did at jfk, by the way. It was like three days. Hang on, let me, I, I have a direct quote from him. Let me, let me, let me grab it. Yeah, three. He said this three days before he was killed. Hang on, I'm gonna find it.
Kurt Mexican
Is this a secret society thing?
Jimmy Dore
He said there's a plot in this country to enslave every man, woman and child. Before I leave this high and noble office, I intend to expose this plot. Seven days later he was assassinated.
Kurt Mexican
So it's even bigger than something with Israel, because the plot, 100% is to do that. And they've been doing it very effectively and very slowly. It's a generational project. So all the nonsense you see around you and all the things that made no sense, these are all tests to see if they got us where they want us.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah, like, like us thinking that the, the three buildings fell down because two planes went into them. Two buildings that were designed to withstand planes going into them.
Kurt Mexican
I didn't even know three buildings went down until about a year and a half ago. And I was living in New York when it happened. That's really weird.
Roger Waters
Yeah.
Jimmy Dore
So you know Seth, Seth Rich, the cult, the whole Covid thing, the whole, the, the whole Russiagate thing, the whole Syria thing, the whole Iraq war, the whole everything.
Kurt Mexican
Your parents who watch Fox News or CNN or MSNBC or any either side of the aisle news that babble nonsense to you when you talk to them. It's a, it's almost a hack joke now. Yeah, that's the programming they're putting it. The boomers, they got them from right after the greatest, the greatest generation. That was their big idea, to enslave all of humanity. I think they got to get it done by 2030. I don't know why they always focus on 2030, but you could see the clumsiness and the conspiracy being more obvious. And I think it's because the more they don't want to keep it up, they just Want people who might be mad to die out. So I'll be, you know, we ain't got long left. And then these kids ain't going to know better. And they're not going to know to be mad about it. Just like I thought. JFK story, there's no problem with it for quite a long time, because what do I care? I wasn't there. You know, they just gotta wait for your death.
Jimmy Dore
As Noam Chomsky says, who cares? People get killed all the time. Why would you care who killed JFK, as Chomsky said. Chomsky, who is now 100% confirmed was a CIA asset. No doubt about it. No doubt about it. Yep.
Kurt Mexican
That's the dialectic. Bannon and Noam Chomsky having a party. That's the. That's no better example of Hegelian dialectic than that. And having the far left on the
Jimmy Dore
same team having a party with Jeffrey Epstein.
Kurt Mexican
Yeah, real good party. It's not probably just teens. I mean, it's not that bad. I'll be. I'll be Gavin McGinnis. I use just teens. I mean, it's not good, but it's not bad. I didn't bother to look it. I couldn't find anything on. I didn't even look because they're not low iq. I know when I went to Israel, they said I need to look into it. Anybody that says it was just teens and blah, blah. Don't ever forget the DA on purpose. They made sure no one below 14 could try to be part of that lawsuit. Because that's the story they want to put out there. The one that moron Gavin and every other idiot is putting out there. The very reason the law made sure the victims younger than 14 couldn't testify was so that idiot and the other idiots and Shellenberger and the other scum could do this. Narrative containment. But I don't think it's working too good.
Jimmy Dore
Between you and me, I don't think so either. I think we need a journalist like Matt Taibbi to crack it open.
Kurt Mexican
Well, he is busy. I don't know what he's working on. The last of Woke.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah.
Kurt Mexican
What the hell does he even do now? I mean, if you're not on this, you're, like, useless if you can't reckon with the very obvious thing of the coup that already happened. Okay? And it now, looking back, it makes a lot more sense because Poppy Bush, don't forget he's at the center of all this.
Jimmy Dore
He was the head of the CIA before he became President.
Kurt Mexican
He was the president.
Jimmy Dore
He was in Dallas. Oh, he doesn't remember where he was. And he doesn't remember where he was. He was there when they killed Kennedy.
Kurt Mexican
Yeah. A scumbag family who funded the Nazi. Well, his dad took the fronted for Rockefeller funding Hitler.
Jimmy Dore
Yes.
Kurt Mexican
So isn't that odd that all these things after the war lot people landed on their feet. You wouldn't have thought, should have.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah.
Kurt Mexican
All right. I got to do this thing.
Jimmy Dore
Okay. Have fun at your party.
Kurt Mexican
I'll try.
Jimmy Dore
All right. If you want to hear my jokes about that. Hey, August 30th is our next live celebrity panel show where Kurt may be there. We may be talking about these things. So go to jimmy dore.com for a link for ticket. We'll see you in Burbank and then Rosemont, Illinois and Chicago, Illinois. Jimmy Dore.com for a link for tickets.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
Are you doing a show on Friday?
Jimmy Dore
I think so.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
Yeah.
Doctor (Congressional Hearing)
Yeah.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
You want to tell them we're doing
Jimmy Dore
a show on Friday and we're going to have book club on Friday. So it's going to be half a real show, half the book club about Carl Jung. Okay, we'll see on Friday. Okay, but we got more show coming up. It's going to. We're going to jump over to Rumble. Steph's going to read your super chats and your Rumble rants and we'll see you over at Rumble. So we're back on Rumble. Steph, read some chats.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
Okay, Jimmy Dore. I sure will. Freedom from Jordana. Thank you. Freedom from Jordana. How they control us. Oh, I read that one about pbs. Chrono. Is it Chrono Hopper. Thanks. Will donate if you have kids. How could you not? We don't have much time left for being complacent. They'll use our own tax dollars to harm our children if we don't. And that's from Chrono. 911 is the granddaddy psyop of the 2000s. Blowing this wide open will break the dam and is why the predator class has made it such a triggering psyop beyond narratives. Thermite is what took down the buildings. Parentheses Israel. And that was from our pal garbage man. Tricks have Ryan Dawson on regarding 9 11. He is a what? He is a. Are you saying a cunt? What? Ryan Dawson. But he knows everything and has been right for a decade. Cunt is a funny word. He can answer every question in detail. Roofer. That's from degenerate society.
Jimmy Dore
Okay.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
Or well timed.
Jimmy Dore
Oh, back to Jimmy So Theo Vaughn, who I'm a big fan of, and a lot of people blame him for Trump's election, but he does. They don't blame the powerful, meaning the Democratic Party, who rigged three presidential primaries in a row so we couldn't have someone who could beat Trump. Trump, they got rid of Bernie Sanders twice. And then they just installed Kamala Harris without having a primary. And now even Hillary Clinton screams about it, that that was wrong. Says if they would have had a real primary, they could have. They could have beat Trump. But of course they didn't have a real primary. They didn't have a primary. They just installed someone who couldn't get a vote the first time she ran for government. And now instead, some people say, oh, we got Trump because people wouldn't vote for a black woman. Which is maybe the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Yeah, we. 20 years ago, we voted for Barack Obama twice, but this time, Talk about deranged. But anyway, so he had on this guy, Senator Kennedy, and Senator Kennedy is going to be. This is from. I got us from Vigilant. Fox is. Is a puppet of APAC and Israel and the Zionists, like all of them. And Theo Vaughn, who is not an expert on this, he's just a comedian doing a talk show, cuts right through him. Let's watch.
Theo Vaughn
That's my point of view. Tucker will have a different point of view. Yeah, he thinks, and he thinks that we're too close to Israel.
Chris Russell
I think a lot of people these from. From people that I see all the time. That's the number one thing that people say. They think we're too close to a
Jimmy Dore
country that's too, too close. Well, only if you think merging our militaries after letting them violate every law of God and man while giving them our money is too close. Yeah, then they're too close.
Theo Vaughn
That's my point of view. Tucker will have a different point of view. Yeah, he thinks and he thinks that we're too close to Israel.
Jimmy Dore
It's just a point of view. It's just we. He has a point of view. I have a point of view. And he thinks we're too close now. He doesn't think we're too close to Israel. He thinks we're violating every principle of Christianity by funding a genocide in the Greater Israel Project. He doesn't think we're too close. He thinks that we are being humiliated. The American public are being humiliated in service of a genocidal ideology called Zionism. That's what he thinks is. Think we're Too close.
Chris Russell
I think a lot of people, these, from, from people that I see all the time. That's the number one thing that people say. They think we're too close to a country that's, that's, that's created a genocide against Palestine and then is like in conflict with these other people around them that it seems like they're just like kind of the bullies of the area. You know, it's like, it feels like they're the terrorist organization. That's what it seems like to a lot of people.
Theo Vaughn
A lot of people believe that Hamas attacked Israel and the Israelis fight back.
Mike McRae
And
Jimmy Dore
I like how he, he starts the movie at Act 3. Hamas attacked Israel. Yep. Everybody was just living a peaceful life. That's how they start. That's where they start the story. They skip the first two acts of the movie, which is Palestinians land was taken away from them. Starting with the Balfour Declaration in 1917. The UK, at the behest of the Rothschilds, gave Palestine to Israel to a plant, to a people. Zionists wasn't even Israel yet. It's called Palestine. And that, that's where it really started. And then there and then to, to get the Palestinians off the land so the Zionists could take over, they had to slaughter them. It was called the Nakba. So that's, so that's where it starts. It starts with terrorism. It starts the people who founded Israel are all. Now everyone agrees they were terrorists and terrorist organizations. We all know this. So that's where it starts. And then they went on to slaughter them and occupy them for 70 years after that. And so when he says, well, Hamas attacked Israel and occupied people under the UN Charter are allowed to use violence to fight back against their occupiers. And most of the people killed on October 7th, in my opinion, were killed by Israel's own IDF. That's a, that's a fact. That they slaughtered their own people. That's not up for debate. Everybody knows this. It's called, it's called the, It's not the Samson option. What is the thing called where they, where they slaughtered their own people Anyway, I'll think of it. So that's what happened on October 7th. That was a thing that was pretty much Engineered by Netanyahu. October 7th. And then they slaughtered their own people.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
Who did?
Jimmy Dore
Israel slaughtered their own people. I bet you, I would bet dimes of dollars that they killed more people than Hamas did on October 7th. Who did? IDF. Israel killed more Israelis on October 7th than Hamas did. I'd be willing to bet we Know, they killed lots of their own people. And so this was the thing they used. Just like they used 911 to do Iraq, Syria, Libya, Iran. Just like how they used 911 to do that, they're using October 7th to ethnically cleanse Gaza and take it over. So I just, you know, got. When people like him use that argument, they reveal that they're liars of the highest order, protecting evil and genocide. Okay. Is that what it's called? To set. Now, there's another thing. What is. What does it say that the Samson. It's not.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
Let me.
Jimmy Dore
Let me ask Grok real quick. Grok will tell me. What is the Israeli doctrine where they kill their own people rather than let them become hostages? Oh, it's called the Hannibal Directive. The Hannibal Directive. Okay, so let's get back to some more. This propagandist. So he's there to lie to you, to propagandize you, and the Oval ain't having it, which is nice.
Theo Vaughn
They took. They. They took over the Gaza Strip. And yes, a lot of Palestinians got hurt and not got hurt.
Chris Russell
I mean, got killed.
Theo Vaughn
Got killed and hurt.
Jimmy Dore
They got hurt. They got hurt. You know, they got knee scrapes and whatnot. Some of them have headaches.
Theo Vaughn
And we. But.
Jimmy Dore
But.
Theo Vaughn
But Hamas would. Hamas would hold the Gazans hostage. They would put them out front.
Chris Russell
But how do we even know that they killed 220something. Seen it, but they killed 220something journalists that went there to document what was going on.
Theo Vaughn
There's no question there was civilian deaths.
Chris Russell
They wouldn't let journalists in to even document what was happening.
Theo Vaughn
There have been civilian deaths, but it is primarily.
Jimmy Dore
I like how he says that it is. There have been civilian deaths. Well, let's look. Let's look. Studies indicate between 83% and 86% of Palestinians killed in Gaza are civilians. There have been civilian deaths. You mean nine out of. If you round up, that's nine out of ten of the people killed in Gaza during this pretend war, which is really a genocide. Ethnic cleansing of Gaza for the Greater Israel Project. Nine out of ten of them were civilians. There have been civilian deaths now, and I use my southern accent to make me sound like. More like. Just like Brian Harpo. I try to talk like this, make me sound more real. So 86% of the Palestinians. Of the people killed in Gaza are civilians. Out of the roughly 53 deaths logged at the time of the review, fewer than 9,000 were identified as Hamas. Children and women. Demographic data consistently shows that women, children, and the elderly make up the significant Majority of the fatalities. There have been. There have been some people that. Some civilians. Wars are ugly. Nine out of ten people that you killed were civilians. Women and children and the elderly.
Theo Vaughn
There's no question there was civilian deaths.
Chris Russell
They wouldn't let journalists in to even document what was happening.
Theo Vaughn
There have been civilian deaths, but it is primarily the fault. I'm not saying Israel is blameless. Look, war is ugly.
Mike McRae
Is this war war?
Theo Vaughn
It is war.
Jimmy Dore
I, I love Theo. This is a war. When you bomb people in tents, this is a war. Yeah. One side, one side has rocks and the other side has F16 fighter jets and 2000 pound bombs and tanks.
Chris Russell
Think it's work. They just had an article yesterday that came out from the UN if there are some findings of the commission. Israel has killed 20,000 children and injured 44,000 more since October 7, 2023.
Matt Campbell
Let me see.
Chris Russell
Palestinian children have been arrested and subjected to torture and other severe forms of mistreatment in Israeli prisons. This is all part of, Let me see, United Nations.
Theo Vaughn
Well, first, I wouldn't believe it if it came from the U. N. Yeah,
Jimmy Dore
I wouldn't believe it's when it came from you. I only believe if it comes from Benjamin Netanyahu. I wouldn't. I'm gonna believe the U. N.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
You
Jimmy Dore
know, because they're Jew haters. You know, the U. N. Jew hate. So how these people, they think this is still work? It's not working. This is not working.
Chris Russell
Oh, really? They're not. Do you feel like they're not liable?
Jimmy Dore
They're not, they're not reliable.
Theo Vaughn
They're not objective. Okay, they're not objective.
Jimmy Dore
Number two, they're not objective. You mean like you are? You mean like you are, you piece of it. They're not objective. How objective is this guy? How objective is $113,000 taken from AIPAC? How objective are you? And that's just from AIPAC? That's not the other billionaire Jews or the Zionists or the other billionaire Zionist organizations. That's just one object. They're not objective like me.
Theo Vaughn
There's no question there was civilian deaths.
Chris Russell
They wouldn't let journalists in to even document what was happening.
Theo Vaughn
There have been.
Jimmy Dore
Notice how he doesn't even address that point. They wouldn't let journalists in to document it. Not only that, they killed over more journalists killed in Gaza than all the wars combined.
Theo Vaughn
Civilian deaths. But it is primarily the fault. I'm not saying Israel is blameless. Look, war is ugly.
Chris Russell
Yeah, but is this war?
Theo Vaughn
But it is war.
Chris Russell
You think it's war? It is they just had an article yesterday that came out from the U.N. here are some findings of the commission. Israel has killed 20, 000 children and injured 44, 000 more since October 7, 2023.
Matt Campbell
Let me see.
Chris Russell
Palestinian children have been arrested and subjected to torture and other severe forms of mistreatment in Israeli prisons. This is all part of, let me see, United Nations.
Theo Vaughn
Well, first, I wouldn't believe that if,
Jimmy Dore
let's, let's remember that when Hamas takes prisoners of war, they're called hostages. But when Israel imprisons children, they're called prisoners. You see the difference? They're not hostages, they're prisoners. But when it's an Israeli, it's, they're called hostage. You see the difference? You see that, that semantic sleight of
Theo Vaughn
hand came from the U.N. oh, really?
Chris Russell
They're not, do you feel like they're not liable?
Theo Vaughn
They're not, they're not objective.
Chris Russell
Reliable.
Theo Vaughn
They're not objective.
Chris Russell
Okay.
Theo Vaughn
They're not objective.
Jimmy Dore
Yeah. Number two.
Theo Vaughn
It's number two. I'm, and I know children got killed, and it breaks your heart.
Jimmy Dore
Oh, yeah.
Theo Vaughn
Hamas kills children, too. So does Hezbollah. So does Iran.
Jimmy Dore
Oh, that's, Yeah, I, I, I've only seen this clip. I haven't seen the whole show. And that's where it ended. From the vigilant fox. That is. Wow.
Matt Campbell
Wow.
Jimmy Dore
So it turns out that Israel killed less civilians on average compared to Obama's drone program. So that's good. There's a perk. So Israel killed 86% civilians. Barack Obama killed 90% civilians with his drone program. So I guess they're a little bit better than Barack Obama. What do you think about that, Chris? So I find this guy entertaining sometimes when he's on the right side of an issue, but you can't be on the wrong side of a genocide and slaughter of children and, and be a decent human being in any respect. You just, you just can't. So come see us. August 30th in Burbank, California, another celebrity panel show. That's a Sunday, August 30th, tickets going fast. There's only, what is there 50 tickets left? So go to Jimmy Dore.com for a link for tickets. And then in September, we'll see in Rosemont and Chicago, Illinois, Jimmy Dore dot com. Don't go anywhere else because they're going to charge you more money. All right. Over, Steph.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
Okay, thank you, Jimmy. Let's see what we've got here. I added the Jimmy Dore show to the Orwell Times app on Google Play and Apple App Store as a news source with other indie creators. It will let you follow government bills and compare politicians voting records. And that's from Orwell Times. Chris Russell. Remember Julian Assange locked away for 10 years for speaking his mind. UK and US geek yogurt nanook. I don't know what the rest is. I can't believe you got to interview Roger Waters. Wow. You have no idea how much his music has influenced my life. Jimmy. Lucky. Yeah, we did feel lucky Sandra. I missed where we send the donations for the 911 legal fees. Could you post it on X? Post it on live stream screen. I'll forget to look for the clip and in the description.
Jimmy Dore
It's on the live stream.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
Yeah, I kept posting it repeatedly. I bet you got it.
Jimmy Dore
So Andrew if you can remember put a link to that his crowdfund.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
Yes and I think we have that in the notes too.
Jimmy Dore
It's crowdfund co. Yep, we have it.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
Thank you Sandra. Hey Steph, Jimmy and all you lovely people. We're looking forward to the panel show. Any chance Kurt or Sam Tripoli will be on the show?
Jimmy Dore
Yes, Sam Tripley. Sam Tripley is currently. Is currently booked to be on that show.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
Look at you Jimmy Dore fans fomenting community. Ah, your wish has come true. Can you call Ruby by his real name? He was also known as Jack Ruby. After the shooting he was known by his real name Jacob Rubenstein. Plasma stream and that was shown on during that clip. A little known great MK Ultra movie is the Killing Room 2009 starring Nick Cannon. Dan, I've said here before but MK Ultra I believe is mostly a distraction. The greatest form of mind control is addiction. They can now create countless undetectable designer drugs to subtly manipulate people through their own emotions. Chrono I don't know who you were talking we were talking about. A couple of our friends have stopped smoking pot because they just don't want to do it anymore. Plus they're concerned about what they're finding in pot. And Jimmy, do you want to just mention that again?
Jimmy Dore
So I, I don't want to go on record on this but I remember I was. Max Blumenthal told me and don't quote me on this, don't quote him on this because I have to look into it. But they, they went in and they sampled pot from the pot stores in D.C. and something like 80% of them were filled with all kinds of chemicals. Chemicals meaning like antidepressants and things like that. So I've again, don't quote me on this. I'm gonna go look into it and I'll give you the, the actual figures and facts and stats when I look into it. But that was. I heard that and it made sense to me. And why wouldn't they? You kidding me? Drug dealers. They're drug. Drug dealers are. Drug dealers are drug dealers. And right now the people who make mayonnaise are drug dealers.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
Oh my God. Hellman's mayonnaise, right? Was that it?
Jimmy Dore
That's right. Woo.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
Have you ever seen how easy it is to make mayonnaise? I've seen it. Have I done it? No, I haven't done it. I've not done it. Hey ladies and gentlemen, Jimmy Dore merch sale July 5th, 3rd through the 5th. What a better way to celebrate your independence than going and buying something. Being a, you know, capitalist. Celebrate Fourth of July. You can go to the jimmy dorshow.dashery.com and there's up to 27% off on our T shirts, hoodies, stickers and more. This is my T shirt. I like my T shirt. I love it. I love it. All right ladies and gentlemen, back to your beautiful chats.
Mike McRae
Beautiful.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
I mean that's, that's floppy as jalopy says. This is a Dick Tracy plot, right? You know what? I don't remember the Dick Tracy plot. Now I have to go watch it again. Isn't that when Annette Benning and Warren Beatty fell in love? Isn't that it? Was it Madonna? Madonna's in the movie. Chris is correcting me. But Chris, I'm going to correct you. Annette Benning was also in the movie, wasn't she? Please look it up. Correct me in the chat. All right, thank you, Chris. The same RFK who said there was a Jewish genocide in the Middle east that started in 1948 and that is why Israel must exist. Goo 81. Great show today. Gonna miss you all, but have a great vacation. We gotta do one more show on Friday. So Jimmy, did you decide what time you want to do it on Friday?
Jimmy Dore
We're start at 1pm on Friday.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
1pm on Friday we're gonna do half of a show and then the rest will be book club. And I believe that's chapter five on Freud, right? Hey Heck Doc, Anybody ask Thomas Crook's parents about the current state of MK ultra hel Kurt UFO whistleblower David Grush's lawyer is Irvin Charles McCullough III, former IG of intelligence community. Also majorly involved in the 911 cover up. UFO disclosures is 100% controlled active guardian thank you. Active guardian RFK will willingly to say CIA involvement, but never Israel. Roger Meadows. All hearings are for show. Nothing will ever come of them. You will not change anything by trusting the system to do its job. Rorschach. That's depressing. I'm going to believe something is going to happen.
Jimmy Dore
I don't know.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
When I see Rand Paul coming out after Fauci, time and time again, I believe things. I want to believe that something will come of it. And Rand Paul. Why aren't you doing this show? What's happening with you, Ran?
Jimmy Dore
You tell me.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
I'd like to know. Another Frank Sinatra thing which his daughter recently celebrated. He was funneling money and weapons to the Igran and Havana's Jewish terrorists to help them with the Nakba.
Jimmy Dore
All right, come to me.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
Back to Jimmy.
Jimmy Dore
So I saw this on the Twitters and it's about mayonnaise now. I don't eat mayonnaise from the store anymore.
Theo Vaughn
I eat.
Jimmy Dore
I actually do, Actually. It's avocado oil mayonnaise. So if you eat the other mayonnaise, you're getting poisoned. And that's what causes Alzheimer's. That's. Well, let me play this and we'll. We'll talk about it. Let's play this. Ready? Shall we play this? Let's play it.
Mike McRae
Genetically modified mayonnaise household staple, Hellman's now requires a bioengineered label on its jars
Jimmy Dore
because of how the soybean oil inside
Mike McRae
the mayo is made.
Jimmy Dore
You're putting so as soybean oil. Not good. Soybean oil is one of the oils you're not supposed to. It's not good. Causes inflammation. It breaks the blood brain barrier, causes inflammation. It's. It's basically poison. Just like corn oil. Just like soybean oil. Just like. What is that? The palm oil. You know, the stuff they put in everything. The stuff that was invented as an industrial lubricant is now ubiquitous in your food. Not just high fructose corn syrup, which they put in your bread, but they got all these seed oils which are. But it's even worse than that. It's even worse than that. Let's watch. Let me start this from the beginning. It's even worse than just seed oils. Watch this.
Mike McRae
Genetically modified mayonnaise household staple, Hellmann's now requires a bioengineered label on its jars
Jimmy Dore
because of how the soybean oil. By the way, these are the same people who told you to take the MRNA vaccine. Same people. Same people approve this. The FDA approved this. Same People inside the mayo is made.
Narrator (Mayonnaise Video)
You're putting lab goop on your food and calling it mayo. Helman starts as modified cornstarch. Injected with bacterial genes to survive heavy glyphosate spraying. Then comes the chemical.
Jimmy Dore
So you got glyphosate in there. Oh, my God. How does it start off modified corn
Narrator (Mayonnaise Video)
food and calling it mayo? Hellman starts as modified cornstarch.
Jimmy Dore
Modified cornstarch. Now, cornstarch, you know, is also modified because it's not. They. They've effed with the genes inside corn so they can withstand poison that they spray on it. That's poison being glyphosate. So it's modified cornstarch. And then what do they do?
Narrator (Mayonnaise Video)
Injected with bacterial genes.
Jimmy Dore
Then they inject it with bacterial genes to survive.
Narrator (Mayonnaise Video)
Survive. Heavy glyphosate.
Jimmy Dore
That's. That's how they make corn. They. They genetically modified their corn. Almost all the corn you eat, you think you're eating healthy? I'm eating corn. It's a vegetable. How could that be bad? Well, it's because they've modified the genes to withstand cancer causing chemicals that they spray it with called glyphosate.
Narrator (Mayonnaise Video)
Then comes the chemical load. 25% of the jar is GMO rapeseed preserved with calcium.
Jimmy Dore
It's Ray. Well, what could. What could be bad about something called rape seed? One of things called sodomy seed.
Narrator (Mayonnaise Video)
M. Disodium EDTA before it's thickened with.
Jimmy Dore
And then. And then disodium edta. Let me. Let me ask. Let me ask Grok. What. What is exactly is. What is disodium edta? See, let's see. Let's see what Croc says. It's thinking about my request. It is also known as disodium. I can't say that word. It is a disodium salt form. It's widely used synthetic chelating agent. It appears as a white crystalline solid that is highly soluble in water. It functions as a hexadentate ligand, binding strongly to metal ions through its nitrogen. So it promotes microbial growth, causing cloudiness, discoloration, or instability in products. No, no, no, no. It sequesters or binds to trace metal ions that can otherwise cause problems. Okay. It's commonly used in cosmetics, shampoos, soaps, creams, lotions. Eye makeup prevents spoilage, maintains clarity. It enhances stability. It. In food and beverages. It binds metals that could affect color, flavor or shelf life. Pharmaceuticals and medicine. It's in there, too. It's also used in industrial applications for water treatment, detergents, cleaning products, textiles, paper productions. And analytical chemistry. Wow. It's generally recognized as safe. That's what they say. For its intended use. And low concentrations. It has low acute toxicity. A low hazard rating. Really? But it's a hazard. Well, its hazard rating is low. High doses or ingestion of concentrated forms can cause irritation. Yeah. Okay. It's stable under normal conditions, but can react with strong oxidizers in certain metals. Okay. And yeah, in summary, it's garbage. So that's what they're. That's what they're put. So they. They start off with modified corn starch, genetically modified cornstarch. They spray that corn with glyphosate, which causes cancer. Then they fill it up with seed oil, and then they hit it with edta. Let's watch. Let's watch the. Let's watch the process again. Calling it mayo.
Narrator (Mayonnaise Video)
Helman starts as modified cornstarch injected with bacterial genes to survive heavy glyphosate spraying. Then comes the chemical load. 25% of the jar is GMO rapeseed preserved with calcium disodium EDTA before it's thickened with xanthin and guar gum, leaving this jar.
Jimmy Dore
Then they thicken it with xanthom and
Narrator (Mayonnaise Video)
less than 2% egg yolk.
Jimmy Dore
So your mayonnaise is less than. So when it says real on the label, it says real mayonnaise. There's nothing real about it. It is Franken food. It is. It's, like, created, like, by a monster. 2% eggs. So that means 98%, not eggs.
Narrator (Mayonnaise Video)
My biggest regret was scanning it 60% processed with four harmful additives flagged in Exposer comment app to scan your.
Jimmy Dore
Whoa. Okay, let's. Let's watch it all one more time. All the way through.
Mike McRae
Genetically modified mayonnaise. Household staple Hellman's now requires a bioengineered label on its jars because of how the soybean oil inside the mayo is made.
Narrator (Mayonnaise Video)
You're putting lab goop on your food and calling it mayo. Hellman starts as modified cornstarch injected with bacterial genes to survive heavy gluttony glyphosate spraying. Then comes the chemical load. 25% of the jar is GMO rapeseed preserved with calcium disodium EDTA before it's thickened with xanthin and guar gum, leaving this jar less than 2% egg yolk. My biggest regret was scanning it 60% processed with four harmful additives flagged in exposure comment app.
Jimmy Dore
Okay, fantastic. And you know you can make your own, by the way. Again, I get mine. It's. It's Made with avocado oil. So avocado oil is good for you, just like coconut oil is good for you, just like olive oil is good for you. So there's only three, I think three oils that are good for you. Avocado, coconut, and olive. The rest of the oils, poison, and you can make your own. You take two egg yolks, room temperature, 1 tablespoon Dijon mustard, 1 cup avocado oil, and 2 teaspoons of lemon juice in a large mixing bowl with salt. That's how you can make it. Look it up. You can look it up.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
But I want mine toxic.
Jimmy Dore
I want mine toxic, too. Wow. So that's it. Chosen I. That's the kind I have in my fridge. Chosen Mayo. They make it with avocado oil. Wow. Okay. Enjoy your mayo. So that's why I don't get mayo in store when I go to a restaurant. I used to always get mayo. I don't get. I. The other day I did get mayo. I wasn't thinking. I was in New York and I got a burger and I said, can I get a side of mayo? I won't do that anymore unless they make the mayo in house. But then even if they do, they'll probably going to use seed oil, which is not good.
Mike McRae
Okay.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
You know when they ask you at a restaurant, you have any allergies, I'm going to start saying seed oil.
Jimmy Dore
But they don't. They don't know and they don't care. You could say it. I know. I say it too, sometimes, but they just go. They don't even know what the hell you're talking about when you say.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
I'm still going to say it. I'm still going to say it, Jimmy. You can't stop me.
Jimmy Dore
Come see me at my live celebrity panel show, August 30th. It's a Sunday in Burbank, California. Go to Jimmy Dore.com for a link for tickets. Then we'll see in Rosemont and Chicago in September. Jimmy Dore dot com. Don't go anywhere else, host. They'll charge you more. That's it for me for today. Over to Steph to read the rest of your rumble rants.
Steph (Producer/Moderator)
All right, this is gonna go fast. Ladies and gentlemen, didn't the Manchurian Candidate movie take a long time to be released? Like 20 years? Ham Hawk. I looked that up. No, actually, after JFK was assassinated, they removed it for about 20 years. I think that's what you're talking about. And that goo 81. Notice how a plane crashed into a Chinese tower, and that tower is still standing and did not implode. Yeah, a lot of people are questioning that. And here we go. Them talking about it is a distraction. If you've ever been addicted to a drug, even nicotine, that is the control. They control how you feel subtly. Chrono to Hopper. Karabi Maytak. Thank you. Karabi Maytak, Independent UK newspaper. The Canary has been debanked by Lloyd's Bank. Salmon says thank you for that one. And here we go. I'm reading the Devil's Chessboard by David Talbot. Jimmy, hold on to your. Did you know that Allen Dulles and Carl Young were friends? I didn't know it. Ladies and gentlemen, resist much, obey little and we'll see. A Friday, 1pm Pacific time. Audios.
Date: July 2, 2026
Host: Jimmy Dore
Featured Guest: Roger Waters (Pink Floyd)
Length: [Spans approx. 2.5 hours — timestamps below]
This episode centers on legendary Pink Floyd founder Roger Waters’ campaign to force a new judicial inquiry into the events of September 11, 2001. Waters explains his public support–including significant personal donations–for a UK Supreme Court case spearheaded by Matt Campbell, whose brother died in the Twin Towers. The case challenges the British government’s refusal to review evidence of controlled demolition and official narrative inconsistencies. The discussion broadens into the origins of Israel, the role of global elites, mind control programs like MKUltra, and the power of propaganda, with sharp comic and investigative commentary from Jimmy Dore and regular correspondents.
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Key themes: State repression, Zionism’s history, origins of Israel, the impact of 9/11, media control.
Travel Precautions & Censorship (17:23–18:07)
On Zionism, Banking, and Empire (18:31–22:57):
Personal Awakening & Cultural Propaganda:
Tie-In to 9/11 (23:51–25:36):
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Background of the Case:
Legal Roadblocks:
Crowdfunding Details:
Philosophical Stakes:
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Media Ownership & Control:
Call for Mass Action:
Vision for the Inquiry:
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Congressional Hearings on MKUltra (59:05–66:11):
Institutional Strategy:
Media, Behavioral Modification, & Mind Control:
Technological Extensions:
Chilling Summary:
On Why This Is Allowed Now:
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Roger Waters [34:18]:
“Matt [Campbell] is asking a question on behalf of the whole human race, because these are going to kill us all if we don’t demand what we were promised [after World War II]… a world where we won’t have any more wars because we will have law and will abide by it.”
Jimmy Dore [110:22]:
“I like how he starts the movie at Act 3: ‘Hamas attacked Israel’… skips the first two acts: the Nakba, occupation, dispossession.”
Roger Waters [47:32]:
“Elon Musk is a pig. Trump is a pig. Bill Gates is a pig. The rich ruling class, they’re the pigs. It’s exactly like in Animal Farm…”
Kurt Mexican [101:27]:
“There’s a plot in this country to enslave every man, woman, and child. Before I leave this high and noble office, I intend to expose this plot. Seven days later he [JFK] was assassinated.”
Roger Waters [50:38]:
“It’s only from a mass, mass, mass movement, when the sound of the voices in the choir drowns out all the Rupert Murdochs… and our voice becomes loud enough and we start looking after our brothers and sisters, not just in Palestine, but all over the world…”
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This episode bridges hard-hitting political satire, media literacy, and earnest activism, with Roger Waters at the moral center. Waters’ campaign for a real 9/11 inquiry is framed as a planetary issue: a call for transparency, human rights, and genuine democracy in the face of elite impunity. The show is unflinching—no subject is off-limits, from Zionist history, to CIA conspiracies, to the subtle means of mind control wielded by media, big tech, and government.
The hosts’ irreverence, typified by withering satire and surreal character sketches, is in service of exposing hypocrisy and encouraging critical thought. Frequent reminders ring out: “If you’re forbidden to ask, something’s being covered up.” The dialogue is fiercely anti-authoritarian with sharp anti-war, anti-imperialist, and pro-human themes.
The episode is as much a rally for solidarity and mass awakening as it is a deep investigation into history’s most controversial narratives.