Dan Bongino Crashes out Over Jimmy Dore AGAIN!

Summary

Podcast Summary: Jimmy Dore Premium Podcast (June 9, 2026)

Episode: "Dan Bongino Crashes out Over Jimmy Dore AGAIN!"

Host: Jimmy Dore
Guests: Kurt Metzger, Steph Zamorano, Max Blumenthal, Aaron Baker (FL-6 Candidate)
Main Theme:
A deep-dive takedown of Dan Bongino’s public meltdown over Jimmy Dore’s Epstein coverage, exposing hypocrisy inside right-wing and establishment media, and an exploration of political subservience to Israel in US power circles. The episode features a roasting of Bongino, the latest on Israel, Iran, and Trump, plus an interview with Aaron Baker, congressional candidate challenging Randy Fine in Florida.

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Episode Overview

Jimmy Dore and cohosts break down Dan Bongino’s increasingly erratic online behavior, exposing his contradiction and hypocrisy around the Epstein files and his role as Deputy FBI Director. The episode broadens out to discuss Israel’s deep influence in US politics, recent Israeli spying on Trump, and the policy crisis around the Iran war. An extended segment features Aaron Baker, candidate for the Florida 6th Congressional District, outlining why he's running against establishment-aligned Randy Fine. Max Blumenthal joins for a comprehensive analysis of Israel’s espionage and the state of MAGA.

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Key Discussion Points & Timestamps

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1. Opening Jabs at Dan Bongino and Epstein Hypocrisy

[00:02–12:46]

• Jimmy’s Appearance on Tucker & Bongino’s Reaction
  • Jimmy discusses confronting Bongino’s “never stop talking about Epstein” rhetoric, pointing out that in power, Bongino did nothing (00:31–01:56).
  • Quote: “You were there to put in custody for the people who are in that evidence, you phony.” – Jimmy Dore (01:44)
• Schoolyard Twitter Insults
  • Bongino blocked Jimmy but kept tweeting at him, leading to a new term for this etiquette: a “Bongina” (02:08–02:55).
• Bongino’s Obsessive Tweets about Dore, Genitalia, and Moms
  • Heavy mockery of Bongino’s personal attacks, fixation on genitals and mothers, used as evidence of his immaturity and projection (03:12–05:55).
• Projection and Weakness
  • Explaining Bongino’s behavior as psychological projection, making fun of his lack of policy substance (06:16–09:08).
  • Quote: “He never engages in the substance, but thinks schoolyard taunts amount to an argument.” – Jimmy Dore (17:49)

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2. Bongino’s Public Meltdown: The Mark Caputo Call

[19:00–33:01]

• A lengthy, edited playthrough of a 2016 call between Dan Bongino and Politico’s Mark Caputo.
  • Bongino repeatedly refuses to answer direct questions, devolves into swearing and insults (20:07–32:03).
  • Caputo remains calm; Bongino eventually explodes and hangs up.
  • Quote: "You're a piece of... go f*** yourself." – Dan Bongino (31:27)
  • Analysis: The call is used as a real-time case study of Bongino’s inability to handle scrutiny and focus on substance.

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3. Epstein Files and Institutional Cover-up

[34:12–37:53]

• Cash Patel & Epstein List
  • Exposing the bipartisan reluctance to unveil Epstein’s list and continued FBI cover-up.
  • Quote: “They’re protecting the world’s foremost predator. That seems like an evil thing to do.” – Sean Ryan (34:27).
• Criticism of House Republicans' Inaction
  • Max Blumenthal highlights how Bill Gates and other elites leverage Congress to keep the list hidden (34:44–35:15).
• Dore's Assessment:
  • Quote: “And like a true coward, he continues to tweet about me from behind a block, so I can't respond. Profile in courage.” – Jimmy Dore (17:49)

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4. Interview: Aaron Baker, FL-6 Candidate

[37:45–54:13]

• Baker attacks Randy Fine’s record as anti-constitutional (anti-First, Second, Fourth Amendments), pro-censorship, pro-Israel without limits.
• Describes his platform as “America First,” anti-war, anti-Zionist (but not anti-Israel citizenry).
• Discusses his initial 15% primary showing against Fine, contrasts his grassroots campaign with the moneyed establishment.
• Criticizes red flag laws, big tech surveillance, foreign aid to Israel and Ukraine, and pledges to protect Social Security and entitlements.
  • Quote: "I am anti-Zionist. I’m not anti-Israel. The government of Israel are genocidal maniacs." – Aaron Baker (40:34)

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5. UFC/MMA and Anti-Israel Athlete Voices

[55:36–59:44]

• Bryce Mitchell and UFC figures speak out against Ben Shapiro and Israeli policy.
  • Quote: “He wants us to go die to bomb Muslim kids for his Jewish people because he's too scared to do it.” – Bryce Mitchell (56:51)
• Jokes about “tough Jews” and Jewish representation in fighting sports.

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6. Epstein’s Alleged Survival: Evidence and Analysis

[60:02–71:25]

• Jimmy presents user reports, gaming accounts, drone footage, and physical differences in Epstein’s purported corpse as evidence of a likely state-led "switch-out."
• Ben Owens’ theory: Epstein may be alive, incentivizes insiders to come forward with a reward.
• Broader commentary on Americans being lied to about essential truths (“epistemological crisis,” "everything’s a psyop”) (71:16).
• Quote: “If we’re wrong, every dollar in that reward pool goes to Ben’s organization… If we’re right… it becomes expensive to stay silent.” – Ben Owens (67:11)

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7. Max Blumenthal: Israeli Spying, US Politics, and Trump

[76:13–107:53]

• Israeli Espionage (Confirmed by US & NYT)
  • Israel routinely spies on US—including on Trump, especially when shut out of Iran peace negotiations.
  • Links between Israeli surveillance, US media (Salem Media), and MAGA influencers.
  • Trump seen as beholden to a constellation of Zionist interests: campaign funding, business leverage, and family investments (especially sons in Israeli tech/drone ventures).
• The Stickiness of Israeli Leverage
  • Quote: "If Trump actually defies the Israelis… that’s pretty much a wrap on MAGA."
• Iran/Israel/Trump Peace Process:
  • Israel is proactively sabotaging US-led peace deals to prevent Netanyahu’s political ouster.
  • Trump, despite campaign promises, is boxed in—his power and movement depend on Israeli money and influence.
  • Quote: “Trump is viewed as Bibi’s prison girlfriend… killing the Republicans in the polls.” – Larry Johnson (134:01)
• Final Analysis:
  • US foreign/domestic policy is controlled structurally by billionaires and Israeli interests; presidents are often powerless (“the president’s only there for 4–8 years. There are all these clearances above the president… your democracy is fake.” – Kurt Metzger, 115:04).

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8. The USS Liberty, Congressional Silence, and Media Manipulation

[163:11–170:59]

• Marking the anniversary of the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty (1967), with long-term US government cover-up and AIPAC intimidation of pro-survivor congressmen.
  • Quote: “Imagine enlisting in the United States military, getting deliberately attacked by an ally… then getting censored and gagged by your government for the benefit of this ally.” – Jimmy Dore (170:59)
• House Rep. Thomas Massie’s floor speech remembered and contrasted with AIPAC-funded detractors.

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9. AI, Information Control, and the Israel Lobby

[151:50–162:11]

• Jewish/Israeli Leaders on Controlling AI and Social Media
  • American Jewish Committee and ADL openly discuss efforts to “align” AI company outputs with pro-Israel narratives, lobbying companies (Meta, TikTok) to alter algorithms, and centralizing information management.
  • Quote: “Instead of trying to control the whole world and manage social media, we can go directly to the companies with advocacy.” – Dr. Maya Ackerman, AJC event (152:58)
• ADL Describes Ongoing AI Content Moderation
  • Quote: “CAR is working with the ADL Center for Technology to understand how the major AI platforms are building their products so that we can help them...” – ADL Leader (157:41)

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10. Iran-Israel Escalation, World War 3 Concerns, and Trump's Weakness

[117:32–138:35+]

• Iran’s New Doctrine: Any attack on “axis of resistance” states (Gaza, Lebanon) triggers Iranian retaliation; deterring future Israeli attacks.
• US/Trump Weakness
  • Trump and the US are boxed in; America’s economic crisis (oil, farmers) is bound up with Israeli warmaking.
  • Quote: “Trump is viewed as Bibi’s prison girlfriend… and it is killing the Republicans in the polls.” – Larry Johnson (134:01)
• World War 3 Risks:
  • The cycle of Israel bombing Lebanon, Iran striking Israel, and the US unable to seriously intervene without risking global escalation and economic fallout.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Bongino’s Hypocrisy:
  “It’s revealing that Dan Bongino is so obsessed with my genitalia, since he was the one who told us to keep talking about Epstein. And then… had to cover for the pedos he was supposed to prosecute.” – Jimmy Dore (17:49)
• On the Cover-up Culture:
  “Everything’s a psyop because we’re living in one huge psyop.” – Jimmy Dore (71:32)
• On Israel’s Hold on US Policy:
  “If Trump actually defies the Israelis… that’s pretty much a wrap on MAGA.” – Max Blumenthal (89:33)
• On the Limits of Presidential Power:
  “There are all these clearances above the president… your democracy is fake.” – Kurt Metzger (115:04)
• On US Betrayal of USS Liberty Crew:
  “Imagine enlisting in the United States military… getting censored and gagged by your government for the benefit of this ally Israel.” – Jimmy Dore (170:59)

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Tone & Takeaways

The episode is confrontational, irreverent, and darkly comic, with relentless lampooning of establishment hypocrisy and “controlled opposition.” Dore, Metzger, and Blumenthal blend humor and deep cynicism with trenchant media and political criticism. The extended segments with Aaron Baker and Max Blumenthal anchor the show in substantive policy/political realities, while the recurring motif is institutional elite cover-up, especially around Epstein, Israel, and big tech.

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Useful for Listeners Who...

• Want to understand the meta-crisis of elite unaccountability (Epstein, Israel, intelligence)
• Appreciate comedic but meticulous media criticism and hypocrisy-roasting
• Follow current Middle East conflict politics, especially regarding Trump and Israel
• Seek grassroots perspectives on US congressional politics (Aaron Baker interview)
• Track how censorship, AI, and social media are being shaped by powerful lobbies

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Select Timestamps at a Glance

• [01:44] Dore calls Bongino “phony” for not delivering on Epstein outrage
• [19:00–33:01] Bongino’s unhinged phone meltdown (Mark Caputo call)
• [34:12–37:53] Epstein list cover-up, FBI inaction, Max Blumenthal’s remarks
• [37:45–54:13] Aaron Baker interview: FL-6 race, red flag laws, Israel
• [89:33–96:18] Max Blumenthal exposes Trump-MAGA-Israel relationship
• [115:04] Kurt Metzger explains why the presidency is a powerless office
• [170:59] Dore’s summary of US government cowardice over USS Liberty

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This summary omits ads, intros/outros, tour promos, and reads, focusing entirely on the content and major discussions.

Transcript

[Jimmy Dore]

Establishment media sucks August lighting, so good luck.

[Max Blumenthal]

Bullshit.

[Kurt Metzger]

We can't afford why he's commenting this.

[Jimmy Dore]

Watch and see as his jack golf

[Max Blumenthal]

the medium, speeds and jumps the medium

[Jimmy Dore]

and hits him head on. It's the Jimmy Door Show. Hi, everybody. Welcome to the show. I'm here with Kurt. Mexican. Hey, Kurt.

[Kurt Metzger]

Hello, Jimmy. How are things? Oh, great Tucker appearance, by the way. I just watched it.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, thank you very much. In fact, we're gonna be talking about my Tucker appearance at the top of the show.

[Kurt Metzger]

I understand you ruffled some feathers.

[Jimmy Dore]

Ruffled, yes.

[Kurt Metzger]

Jimmies out there.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes. We shivered some timbers. I like your backdrop. It's perfect.

[Kurt Metzger]

I'm gonna fix it because I don't have enough of sweet Bonjino's sweet face. But it's his book. The Gift of Failure. Boy, the book he was born to write it is.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, so when I was on Tucker this last time, I brought up that Dan Bongino screamed about the Epstein files, told us never to stop, never let up on it. And then when he got in a position of power, well, here's what. Let me just play this for you. Is there. Nothing happened. Don't ever stop talking. Phony Dan Bongino, who's famously said, don't ever stop talking about the Epstein files. Please do not let that story go.

[Aaron Baker]

Keep your eye on this.

[Jimmy Dore]

He get. That's what he said.

[Kurt Metzger]

Okay, well, I'm a friend of New Dan, not Old Dan.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay. And so this is what I said on Tucker. In a position of power to do something about it. And now he changes its tune to say I was there to do my job, which is to keep custody of the evidence. No, you weren't there to keep custody of the evidence. You were there to put in custody for the people who are in that evidence, you phony. Anyway, I. I get upset.

[Larry Johnson]

You have every reason to.

[Kurt Metzger]

Did you and Tucker fuck or something?

[Jimmy Dore]

So here is what. Dan Bonino, by the way, he's blocked me, but. So he. So there's. There's nothing lower than blocking someone and then continuing to tweet at them. That's.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's covering up the Epstein files for Israel. I was saying.

[Dan Bongino]

Oh, you're right.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's lower. You're right, but I'm talking about as far as Twitter etiquette.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, that.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's. That's. We used to call that a Grimm job because Ryan Grimm did that to me for a while, but now he's unblocked me.

[Steph]

Oh, song.

[Kurt Metzger]

Now it's called a bongina.

[Jimmy Dore]

I think it's going to call it a bongina. We gotta switch it. But there's so many. There's so many. I got so many tweets out there. Hashtag grim job, I hate. But anyway, I'm blocked.

[Kurt Metzger]

So please convey my best wishes, people out there, to him.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here is. Here is what? Dan Bongino. Or do you say Von Gina? Some people say that Jimmy Dore has been trying to find evidence of his male genitalia.

[Kurt Metzger]

What?

[Jimmy Dore]

Since his early childhood. This guy talk. He's. I'm pretty sure he's a closet case because that's the way closet cases talk.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, I think he's worse than that. In fact, my shout out to Tez Moses, T E Z Z M O S I s, who just had a video of a former MK Monarch victim who had all kinds of wild accusations about Old Bong Gino. And I believe all of them because who would cover up the Epstein files unless they were in on it?

[Jimmy Dore]

So, like, I've been trying to find evidence of male genitalia since. You mean like my own genitalia?

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, it does make sense.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's terribly written and confusing bit about genitalia, Dan. Not that it's important, but I did end up finding some evidence of it in your mother's mouth.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, me as well, Dan. Shaved ape. What a punk he is. What a worthless punk Dan Bongino is.

[Jimmy Dore]

Let me, Let me get. Let me get talked to. Let me get through this tweet of his. He's having a hard time because. And by the way, no, no shade at gay people. I, I.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, no shade in Nick Fuentes. We have enough problems.

[Jimmy Dore]

I came out and admitted my, My crush on. What was that guy's name? Jude Law.

[Kurt Metzger]

I've heard a lot of people have a crush on him.

[Jimmy Dore]

Twenty years ago, I admitted to having a cry, to having sexual feelings for Jude Law. I got no problem with that.

[Kurt Metzger]

Did you ever respond, or is he a dirty tease?

[Jimmy Dore]

He's a dirty tease. I did meet him in person. You know, I met. I met him in person.

[Kurt Metzger]

And they keep leading you on.

[Jimmy Dore]

My friend Mike, Mike Siegel, who I think is still my friend. I don't know. He was doing a Access Hollywood show or something like that, and he called. I was in. I was doing the marijuana logs in New York, and he said, hey, I'm interviewing Jude Law. I know you like him. You want to come meet him? So I did. I went back, we took a picture and everything. I got a little. I got a little. I got a little excited. And so anyway, so, yeah, I mean, just have it. Just have the guts to admit it, Dan. Anyway, he says Jimmy Dore's been trying to find evidence of his male genitalia of male genitalia since his early childhood. He's having a hard time because he's missing a chromosome. His missing chromosome has him starting 10 meters behind the finish line. I don't think he knows.

[Kurt Metzger]

He is not completely unaware.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's an extra chroma. It's not. Anyway, Jimmy's mama has been caught telling friends she has no kids. My mama, by the way, is dead. I hope you're happy in.

[Kurt Metzger]

In heaven. In Israel loving. Heaven.

[Jimmy Dore]

She's in Israel loving. And by the way, she'll be able to go, my mama has 12 kids.

[Kurt Metzger]

Wow.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah,

[Kurt Metzger]

Bongino. Looks like. Like you know how they have to do a C section because English bulldog heads like will tear the mother apart. He's got a big block monkey like head is what I'm trying to say.

[Jimmy Dore]

He does have a kind of an aped. It's a shame. I pity him, really. This is. It's. I don't. He pities me because my mama. So this tells me a lot about Dan. Dan obviously didn't get the attention and affection from his mama as a kid, which is why that's the first thing he goes to. And he's, you know, he's obsessed with male genitalia, which is. So those are the two things you know about Dan just from this one tweet. If you study Jung psychological projection. I pity him. It's time for an intervention. Maybe if Tucker and Buckley stop jerking off Putin and the. So now he's going back and he's my God. So now he's doing Russiagate stuff.

[Kurt Metzger]

I thought great job, Dan. Wasn't he anti Russiagate? Am I remembering?

[Jimmy Dore]

I'm pretty sure he was. I know Cash Patel was Kash Patel. That was some of the good work he did when he was exposing the BS brushigate thing as we did at this show. We were the first ones to do it, by the way. Pat on the back to myself, the reason I tell you that is because if I don't, nobody else will. Stop jerking up Putin and the Islama Nazis. They could provide some help. Just a thought. Hope you're having a great weekend.

[Kurt Metzger]

Is lamo Nazis. What was that?

[Jimmy Dore]

I've heard of Ashkenazis, so I just this he. I'm a comedian. I. Does he really think that schoolyard bully swipes are going to hurt my feelings or make him look good? I mean, maybe it Will make him maybe not as good as they kung fu inside of an airline or bathroom technique, but. But he's going to try that kung fu stuff.

[Kurt Metzger]

Guy's dove.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's got another one. Here's an. Here's. This was an earlier one. Unique Jimmy Doors.

[Kurt Metzger]

Whoa, whoa.

[Steph]

What a slam.

[Kurt Metzger]

You got him. How does he. Why is he talking about your ball so much? This shabbos goy here.

[Jimmy Dore]

Eunuch. Jimmy Dore's pathological obsession with me. You mean with the deputy director of the FBI when he covered up and lied about the pedo scandal he was supposed to. Yeah, I'm a little. I'm obsessed with the deputy director of the FBI lying and covering up the biggest pedo scandal in history. Yeah, I've been. You're the one who said don't let up on this, so I'm not.

[Kurt Metzger]

See you in Valhalla, sweetie.

[Jimmy Dore]

See you in Valhalla, to me, is beyond strange at this point. So, again, this is psychological. The thing that's strange is your obsession with my genitalia and your bafflement at people caring about the Epstein files and you lying about it after you said never let go.

[Kurt Metzger]

And I made this beautiful Epstein backdrop that looks like Seinfeld.

[Jimmy Dore]

How come it's twisted backwards, Kurt?

[Kurt Metzger]

It is here. Wait, is it better now?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, on my screen.

[Jimmy Dore]

It looks backwards now. It's good. Okay, okay. His daily crash outs with his lover Tucker are reaching Netflix special crazy daily. First of all, Dan, me and Tucker's sex life is none of your business.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's a fact.

[Jimmy Dore]

We're consenting adults, unlike the scumbag Zio pedal cannibals that you run cover for.

[Kurt Metzger]

No one cares if Jimmy's adult consensual relationship with Tucker Carlson goes on. I'm a little more concerned about, you know, the Israel human trafficking operation. Dan, you shaved ape.

[Jimmy Dore]

Let's go back. His lover Tucker are reaching Netflix special crazy. I don't know what that means. Can someone close to him call his mama again? Genitalia and mama. So we know two things about Dan. Dan.

[Kurt Metzger]

He's Italian for sure.

[Jimmy Dore]

Dan did not get the attention from his mama that he wanted. And he. It's a psychological. He has some trauma from it, from his mama. And he's most likely a closet case,

[Kurt Metzger]

which, again, no, I would say it's a good bet. I wouldn't even make. It's not a matter of being gay. You have to understand. It's about power, Jimmy.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's about power.

[Kurt Metzger]

You really want the ultimate power? You're Going to have to get a little AC Doocy to climb the ranks, which I'm sure Bongino has done. I have no doubts of that.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, let me finish this. Can someone close to him call his mama? She's dead. Stop. Quit, Mike. Quit, quit, quit. Assaulting a widower.

[Kurt Metzger]

She's. She supported Israel, right? So she's in heaven. So we just.

[Jimmy Dore]

My mom certainly did support Israel. And have her bring him some chicken soup or something.

[Kurt Metzger]

What will that do?

[Jimmy Dore]

I don't. I don't.

[Kurt Metzger]

Jambo, Gino. I wish I wasn't blocked so I could read his tweets more. They're very interesting. You have to really pick them apart and understand what the hell he's talking about.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, I can see his tweets. I just can't respond to them. That's the new thing they do on Twitter.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's how you know he's not just, like, stupid. Like, he knows what he's doing to. So he's got to give this appearance that he cares about any of this. You're blocked because he doesn't want to have any engagement with you. He just wants to show that he's doing his part, throwing out insults at you.

[Jimmy Dore]

He's so obsessed with male genitalia that it makes you wonder what kind of magazines he has under his bed. And do they. Do they involve bodybuilders in Roman gladiator outfits?

[Kurt Metzger]

I think we know it does.

[Jimmy Dore]

Like that scene from the movie Airplane? I think so, yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

You ever been in Turkish prison, Dan?

[Jimmy Dore]

Have you?

[Kurt Metzger]

Are you saving up to go?

[Jimmy Dore]

So some people. A friend of the show, Owen Schroyer, he says this comes off, like, Kathy Griffin selfie video.

[Kurt Metzger]

Not even as classy as that.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's. Jack Young says it's hard to believe how bad Bongino went off the rails. Pretty much everyone liked him and respected him before he crashed out of the FBA FBI after 10 months. 10 months. Now he's competing for audience share with Mark Levin.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, Mark Liberty Levin. So I always thought he was scum. I always thought he was a fool.

[Jimmy Dore]

No, I. I used to actually say good things about Dan Bongino before he became the FBI Deputy Director because he was right about Russiagate. I pretty sure he was right about Ukraine war even. So I said. I said nice things about him. In fact, Dan, Benjino even did a video thanking me for saying nice things about him. And now he's proving me wrong.

[Kurt Metzger]

Wow. It's the same Trump play.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's the Trump play.

[Kurt Metzger]

People are just like snakes. And he has no emotions about you either way, Jimmy. He's doing what he's directed to do. He doesn't feel any real emotions that he's going to show to you either way because he's part of the thing and he's covering it up. So he's just doing his part the same as Larry.

[Jimmy Dore]

If I could give him just one piece of advice in regards to his social media presence, it would be to remain absolutely silent and, you know, keep your hands off the keyboard for the foreseeable future. Maybe go back to making more fighting in a tight space educational videos for his close friends.

[Kurt Metzger]

He's being paid to do this, so he can't. He can't stop. He's got to do his part.

[Jimmy Dore]

Larry Loomer. He's in no Larry Loomer. I bet she. I bet she longs for the day when you get kicked off Twitter for misgendering someone. But I think I'm. I think I'm properly gendering. That's the thing. We'd have to have another Brigitte Macron court case to see.

[Kurt Metzger]

Now, the Larry Loomer evidence is not as strong as. As some people think it is, but I still enjoy it.

[Jimmy Dore]

I enjoy it. So Larry says. She retweets Dan von Gino and she says, trust me when I tell you Podcast Podcastan is being investigated by the FBI and the doj. They are too arrogant to realize it. I'm looking forward to the 5am raids and Farah charges headed towards the woke Reich. Hey, just spoil. I hate to ruin your good time, but I already wake up at 5am I can't.

[Kurt Metzger]

I can't pee around that time. Every night.

[Jimmy Dore]

I get up and pee at least four times a night. Now I'm 60.

[Kurt Metzger]

You're in the country of Spotify Arabia, where I live, Jimmy.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay. And then she says these operatives will be exposed and held accountable. It's inevitable. By the way, this. I keep pushing back on this term woke Reich. So the woke, right, they try to pretend it's the people who are true to what Trump ran on.

[Mark Caputo]

Right?

[Kurt Metzger]

Stop being woke.

[Jimmy Dore]

The woke, right, are the people like Dan von Geno and you who want to. Who want to investigate people for free speech. That's the way.

[Kurt Metzger]

It only works on Zio towards. By the way, it doesn't work on anybody who had a real beef that they thought Trump was going to address.

[Jimmy Dore]

It won't work on them. You said the woke. The woke left, were the people who wanted to censor and deplatform people. And now you're the people who want to sense. So that's the woke, right? So they. I guess they wanted to get out and use that term before you could use it against them. Like gay people use queer or something.

[Kurt Metzger]

Woke. Okay, so woke was already always a dumb term. It started out as sjw, Social Justice Warriors. That's what it was first. That was right after Occupy. And then when they were taking things off of whatever black Twitter is, you know, me too. All these things. They took that one woke from, like, black drag queen Twitter. And. And then they marketed it. And now you could tell it's all. It was always Zionists using it the whole time to their whims. You could tell.

[Jimmy Dore]

And so. Hey, Larry, just for FYI, I have been hacked by Pegasus after I spoke at the UN Security Council on the anniversary of the Nord Stream pipeline bombing. And by the way, I got hacked again, same thing, after my Tucker appearance, just to let you know.

[Kurt Metzger]

Wait, just now? Yeah, with Pegasus.

[Jimmy Dore]

I don't know if it was Pegasus this time, but it was another state actor. So my IT guy is former military intelligence, so he knows about this stuff and he has lots of friends inside the military intelligence. Code breaker, hacker stuff. And he said, yeah, this wasn't a person. Once again, Jimmy, this was. This was a state actor, and he has the evidence to figure that out. I don't know how you figured that out, but he did. So I'm not too arrogant. And by the way, Larry, I'm not too arrogant to know that the corrupt FBI abuses its power. My whole show is kind of about that stuff, sir.

[Kurt Metzger]

I like how you had a lot of respect and dignity with your rebuttal just now, unlike. Thank you, by the way, the defenders of a country that sprays a pheromone on prisoners so that they can be sexually assaulted by dogs. And they brag about it. One Israeli was calling his dog Django, by the way. I just saw that on due dissidents. So. What a disgusting country. What a couple of disgusting people to defend it.

[Jimmy Dore]

I. First of all, I appreciate him handing me a segment on the silver platter, and I appreciate him. I'm relevant when the former deputy director of the FBI takes time out to tweet schoolyard bully insults at me twice. I know I'm over the target and it drives him crazy.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, he was using a really sharp wit there. Yeah, missing chromosome. You are really smart, Dan.

[Jimmy Dore]

Here's what I said. It's revealing that Dan Bongino is so obsessed with my genitalia, since he was the one who told us to keep talking about Epstein. And then when he was in a position of power, got his balls clipped and had to cover for the pedos he was supposed to prosecute. He is a textbook case of psychological projection. And like a true coward, he continues to tweet about me from behind a block, so I can't respond. Profile and courage. And it's interesting. He never engages in the substance, but thinks Gouliard taunts amount to an argument. But that's all he has because he's been exposed as a fraud and a cuck to Israel. Me pointing out this on Tucker has really gotten under his skin. And so he continues to crash out over a comedian. This is the former deputy director of the FBI.

[Kurt Metzger]

Wow. I think my hit music video shabbos like the goy would really.

[Jimmy Dore]

So I want to play you a video. Gen X girl posted this, and it was when he was running for Congress. I think he's run for Congress now three times, and he's. He's failed at least three times.

[Kurt Metzger]

So he's a complete human construct with no sincere emotions of any kind is what you're telling me.

[Jimmy Dore]

So when he was running in 2016 in Florida, in a district he didn't live in, I guess he's a construct. You could do that. I guess.

[Steph]

He.

[Jimmy Dore]

He. He made a claim that a newspaper reporter did a story on him, and he said that there was false propaganda in that story. But then a reporter said, what? And will you listen? Listen to this. So this is Mark Caputo, who was at Politico. What was inaccurate about the story he said was propaganda, and he won't answer that question. So we'll listen for about five minutes, and you'll hear that he doesn't have an answer. And he goes. He falls back to calling him all kinds of names.

[Mark Caputo]

Hey, Dan, it's Mark Caputo. All right, so you won't answer. Answer me publicly. So what did she get wrong in her story?

[Dan Bongino]

Well, Mark, I'll be honest with you. We could have cleared this up from minute one when I called you to call, okay?

[Mark Caputo]

But you didn't give me your number. You gave me your number now, so now we're clearing this up. What did she get wrong in her story?

[Dan Bongino]

Her story? Her initial tweet, which is what you asked me about.

[Mark Caputo]

I didn't ask you about her initial tweet. I asked you about the story it was connected to. What was the story? What was wrong with it?

[Dan Bongino]

Mark.

[Mark Caputo]

Yes, I want an answer to the question. And you're not answering the question.

[Dan Bongino]

You asked me what the Naples Daily News was being dishonest about in response to my propaganda tweet.

[Mark Caputo]

And your propaganda. And your propaganda tweet was in relation to what she wrote today, was it not? Was it connected to it? I'm not trying to be slick, Dan. I'm at. Okay, so today's story. What was wrong in today's story? I said the story seemed pretty cut and dry or simple. What was wrong in it? Hold on. I'm trying to find.

[Dan Bongino]

You want to know their track. Is their track record of dishonesty with my campaign or you want to make. Because I can point out individual lines there, too. Want me to send you screenshots of the emails we sent to them, giving them the donor information that Alex asked for? What did she write in the story? We didn't reply. Really? You want screenshots of that?

[Mark Caputo]

Sure. I don't know why you didn't do that to me before, but.

[Dan Bongino]

Yeah, because, Mark, here's what's happening and when. How you're immune to this, I don't get.

[Jimmy Dore]

I mean, you can't.

[Dan Bongino]

You're not. You can't be this naive. They tweeted out. Alex, a long time ago, tweeted out a story about me, and it's just one of many. St. Julius W. Indigenous donor because she's incapable of reading an FTC report. That is a wholly inaccurate story. Now, we happen to have small donors. Unlike Francis Marie, who is a billionaire who's got his own big donors, Our small donors donate small amounts, some because they don't want people to know who they are. We know who they are.

[Mark Caputo]

So you're not giving the. Wait. So you're not giving the Naples Daily News the names.

[Dan Bongino]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You need to time out and listen to what I'm telling you, but you

[Mark Caputo]

need to answer the question, Dan, and I don't think you're doing it. So, like, here's. Like. So, for instance, here's what I. Just so, you know, just to clear this up, I said, hey, where's the propaganda here? It seems like a pretty straightforward story. I'm clearly referring to the story. And now you're saying I was referring to the tweet, and I wasn't.

[Dan Bongino]

Now, Mark, that's not the case. You asked me where these guys had gone wrong and what the propaganda was. In response to Eric, I said.

[Jimmy Dore]

Hold on.

[Mark Caputo]

I said. I said. I said it. I. I just. But I said, a pretty straightforward story, did I not?

[Dan Bongino]

I have to go back through this.

[Mark Caputo]

Well, I'm reading it to you right now, so you gotta trust me.

[Dan Bongino]

What? How did it start? Tell me how this started.

[Mark Caputo]

Hey, Dan Bongino, what's in your campaign receipts? Asks Eric Sarkisian, and he connects it to a story. So I read the story. I'm like, eh. And then you respond, hey, my campaign is full of passionate small donors who despise the Naples Daily News and the propagandists working there. And so I said, okay, where's the propaganda here? It seems like a pretty straightforward story, okay?

[Dan Bongino]

You don't understand. The story is the pinnacle of a series of narratives. The Naples.

[Mark Caputo]

No, but, Dan, Dan, listen, you're not. You're not making sense here because I'm clearly referring to the story. And then you refuse to answer and start talking some tweet which had nothing to do with that question. Hold on, Wait. If I can.

[Dan Bongino]

If I can.

[Mark Caputo]

If I. If I can. You can't understand because you're not listening. So.

[Dan Bongino]

No, I assure you, I hear. Exactly. And I know what you're trying to do.

[Mark Caputo]

I'm trying to get you to answer a question which you refuse to do.

[Dan Bongino]

What's the question? What's the question?

[Mark Caputo]

Where's the propaganda here? It seems like a pretty straightforward story. Hold on. You didn't even let me finish. You asked me the question. I know you're angry, Dan. I understand that. Yes, you are. That's why you blocked me on Twitter. You're angry that I've just asked a simple question. Okay, well, that's fine, but again, I asked you a simple question about the propaganda here in this story, and I'm not getting you not answering the question. That's what I don't get. I don't get why you can't answer the question.

[Dan Bongino]

Because you're just non stop. It's like verbal diarrhea. They call this a work cell in graduate school. You're studying psychopathology. Okay, well, slow down and listen and maybe you'll get the answer.

[Mark Caputo]

No, do me a favor. Answer my question first and. And then you can continue with your slurs and insults. So where in the story. Where in the story is their propaganda? Let me ask the question. I'll handle the questions and you handle the answers, okay? Because that's what this is about. Why are you yelling? Dan, don't get so angry. Oh, now you're swearing. Good Lord. So again, I'll handle the questions. I'll handle the questions and you handle the answers. Okay? You're still not answering the question. We've been on the phone now. Okay, you're gonna. Are you gonna interrupt me? Where's the propaganda here? In this story, it seems pretty straightforward.

[Dan Bongino]

Again, for the 15th time, we do not have one donor in the district, and we have communicated this information to the neighbors.

[Mark Caputo]

That's not in that story. He's linking to. You're not answering my question about that story, Mark.

[Dan Bongino]

You're not interested in any. You're a total bullshit artist with zero credibility.

[Mark Caputo]

Dude, you're really angry in your swearing. Daddy, you shouldn't get so angry. Why don't you just answer the question and be honest about things? Because you're not answering my question. You're inventing a different question.

[Dan Bongino]

You don't see. Here's the problem.

[Mark Caputo]

The problem is you're screaming, you're swearing, and you're throwing around these terms. That's the problem.

[Dan Bongino]

And now that you've been called in your hackery, you're embarrassed.

[Mark Caputo]

No, no, no. You're embarrassed because you can't answer the question. You can't answer the question. So you. You Just to clarify, in this story. In the story, you can't point to any. Any propaganda or.

[Dan Bongino]

Aaron, Eric, we have communicated this information.

[Mark Caputo]

Okay.

[Dan Bongino]

To which I just replied to you. I have actual screenshots, and you're still.

[Mark Caputo]

What is. Okay, Tell me.

[Dan Bongino]

Hold on.

[Mark Caputo]

Let me look at my email while we're on the phone. Okay. You claim you just replied to me, but I don't have this email. So now, once again, you're telling me something that's just not checking out. Dan, you're just. You're not being straightforward with me. Now, I understand. If you've got a problem with other

[Dan Bongino]

stories, send me this email because. Okay, your IQ level is not smart enough.

[Mark Caputo]

Wow.

[Dan Bongino]

You.

[Mark Caputo]

I mean, I'm smart enough to know when someone can't answer the question and has to start throwing around terms and slurs and swearing and raising his voice. I'm under. I understand. Oh. Oh, dad, you're so angry. Why are you so angry?

[Dan Bongino]

Let me tell you something. My entire following has been developed beating on people like you who tried like this with me.

[Mark Caputo]

You're really an a. I mean, you're really, really hurting me. Well, it sounds like I'm hurting you because you're. Because you're yelling and you're. You're swearing at me, Dan. Okay, listen. Okay, so you're a loser.

[Dan Bongino]

You write for a loser paper. Nobody cares. You lie about me. You got.

[Mark Caputo]

What lie did I say about you?

[Dan Bongino]

And my audience is far bigger than yours. And frankly, I'm worried if I.

[Mark Caputo]

Listen, we're, we're all very. I'm very impressed. I'm very impressed that you have a big audience and you need to brag

[Dan Bongino]

about that because, you know, most of us get people paid in a prior life to do this. I don't anymore. Will be if I don't win.

[Mark Caputo]

Well, it seems, it seems like you get paid. It seems like you get paid to campaign. Like you drop twelve hundred dollars at Outback Steakhouse. Are you, are you living, are you living off of your campaign donations?

[Dan Bongino]

New York Times bestselling books?

[Mark Caputo]

Unlike you. Well, it looks like, I mean, it looks like you're like a professional candidate. Like. So you ran and lost in Maryland, Then you went to go run another house seat. Did you, did you lose in Maryland? How many times did you lose in Maryland? How many times did you lose in Maryland? You're not going to answer that question either, are you going to answer that question? Are you going to answer that question?

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, so you see how this goes. He's, he's just, he can't answer a question, a straightforward question, and so he results to calling people names. Right? Um, so here's how it, here's how it wrapped up. Here's how this call wrapped up. It went on for 20 minutes, but here's how it wrapped up. Fuck.

[Mark Caputo]

I mean, you do you normally swear at people like this?

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's trying to tell him, I don't give you consent to record this or release it and I'll sue you. Except he already. He, he. The guy did get consent. Hang on. Fuck.

[Mark Caputo]

I mean, you do you normally swear at people like this? Just when they ask you simple questions.

[Dan Bongino]

Just so you know.

[Mark Caputo]

So let's, let's.

[Dan Bongino]

I don't give you consent. Okay, so let's sue your ass when you do that.

[Mark Caputo]

Okay, so you're threatening me again. I understand. You're still acting out.

[Dan Bongino]

No, because you're an idiot. You don't understand. All right, ask someone to record them. You don't, but you're not smart enough because again, you have an IQ issue. So I, I please record that and publish it so I can sue you because I don't get you.

[Mark Caputo]

No, I told, I told you. No, no, I told you I was recording in writing.

[Dan Bongino]

Oh, will you please do. Nobody reads your stuff anyway. All right, good. On the phone with you if I actually care.

[Mark Caputo]

All right, good.

[Dan Bongino]

So why, so you think you're gonna hurt my campaign back?

[Mark Caputo]

No, I don't think I'm hurt your campaign because it sounds like you're losing. Dan, it sounds like you're hurting your own campaign.

[Dan Bongino]

My life doesn't revolve around politics.

[Mark Caputo]

That's why you've run for. That's why you've run for.

[Jimmy Dore]

He says my life doesn't revolve around politics. This is his third congressional campaign.

[Kurt Metzger]

Daniel, you're running for. For. You're running for office. What do you mean your life doesn't revolve around it the way. This is the perfect bungee back here

[Mark Caputo]

three offices in a row, Dan. It sounds like they do.

[Dan Bongino]

I have an actual life and a job. I'm not a loser like you.

[Mark Caputo]

So why are you. Why are you running for. Why are you running for an office in a city you don't live in, in a county you don't live in, in district you don't live in, or you're not a registered voter in. You don't own property there.

[Dan Bongino]

That's against the. Can you quote me that rule where you have to do that? Oh, you can't again, because you're not smart enough.

[Mark Caputo]

Okay, so you don't.

[Jimmy Dore]

You don't.

[Mark Caputo]

You don't actually have politics.

[Dan Bongino]

Right?

[Mark Caputo]

You're not a registered voter in the district. You're not a registered voter in the district.

[Dan Bongino]

You're right about politics.

[Mark Caputo]

Are you a registered voter in the district?

[Dan Bongino]

You don't know the. No, you're not.

[Mark Caputo]

You're not a registered voter in the district. So let's see. You move down to Florida after losing two campaigns in Maryland. You say you're gonna stay in Maryland and fight. You tuck tail, run away to Florida. You go look to run in District 18. You see you're not gonna be able to win there. You try to run in District 19, you're losing there. You're like a professional political candidate who loses.

[Jimmy Dore]

Dan, you just have no idea why

[Dan Bongino]

I moved to Florida.

[Mark Caputo]

I know you moved here and you wanted to run for.

[Jimmy Dore]

You wanted to run. Oh, dad.

[Mark Caputo]

Why are you yelling now?

[Dan Bongino]

Go yourself.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, dad. Dad. Is that.

[Mark Caputo]

Is that like an offer or something? Is that an offer? Hey, dad, do me a favor. I'll handle the questions and you handle the answers.

[Jimmy Dore]

Calm down. Oh, damn.

[Mark Caputo]

You really sound like you need some help. I think you need some help. Okay, you realize you sound like you need medication. You sound like you need medication. Do you need. Maybe you need some professional help. I think you need professional help. I think you need professional.

[Dan Bongino]

You don't know why I'm in Florida.

[Mark Caputo]

I know you're in Florida running a race and that you're losing in it by your attitude because you're swearing and acting out. And I also know that you looked at running in another district. District. And you knew you couldn't win there either.

[Dan Bongino]

Hey, listen.

[Jimmy Dore]

So let's see, okay?

[Dan Bongino]

When I tell everybody the real reason I'm down here, I'm gonna expose your ass even more.

[Mark Caputo]

All right?

[Kurt Metzger]

You're free to do that.

[Mark Caputo]

And you can continue to threaten. You can continue to threaten me if you'd like.

[Dan Bongino]

You're a piece of lion scumbag, and it's people like you.

[Mark Caputo]

You haven't even established where I lied. We've already established in the record where you've lied. Yeah, and now you're acting out and you're swearing.

[Dan Bongino]

Piece of. You know, go yourself.

[Mark Caputo]

All right, well, you hung up on me.

[Jimmy Dore]

So the Sopranos wouldn't let him in because he would mess up every deal that they were trying to broke. He'd go off on a made man and ruin everything. So this sounds like roid rage to me. He couldn't. That's what that is, right?

[Kurt Metzger]

What were they. I still didn't get what they were fighting about. Like, what is it?

[Jimmy Dore]

He could. Someone had written a story about him, and he said, that's all propaganda on Twitter. And then that guy said, what in this story is not true? And Dan wouldn't answer that question. What in that story was not. He kept talking about another story about a tweet about a this. He's like, no, that's not what my question is. My question is, what in this story is not true? And Dan wouldn't answer that question.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. So a disproportionate amount of his donor. So he's some carpetbagger that is trying to be set up as. That's how you know, he's a construct from the start. He's not from there. He's, like, trying to do an AOC thing.

[Jimmy Dore]

I like

[Kurt Metzger]

my bungina.

[Jimmy Dore]

And then here's. I like this Dan Bongino in action figure. All talk, no action. Just like the real thing.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, look at him. A single father of the information. What is it, custody? Yeah, he's got custody. He's got to raise the evidence himself.

[Jimmy Dore]

He's going to keep custody of the. Of the evidence. That's what he's got to do. All right, and then I have another video. Here. Here's Cash Patel, just to let you know what liars and pedo coverers these guys are. Here's Cash Patel.

[Max Blumenthal]

You know, it's the same thing with Epstein's list. It's like, what the hell are these Republicans doing?

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, I saw you give out.

[Sean Ryan]

I saw you make news this morning about that.

[Jimmy Dore]

I got to get to that. You say that the FBI has Epstein's list.

[Sean Ryan]

They're sitting on it.

[Jimmy Dore]

That doesn't seem like something you should do.

[Sean Ryan]

You're protecting the world's foremost predator. That seems like an evil thing to do.

[Jimmy Dore]

And now he's doing it along with Dan Bongino. Regardless of who may be embarrassed in

[Sean Ryan]

the release of that list. Why is the FBI protecting the greatest pederist, the largest scale pederist in human history?

[Max Blumenthal]

Simple. Because of who's on that list. You don't think that Bill Gates is lobbying Congress night and day to prevent the disclosure of that list? And why is it that the Senate, you know, and good for Senator Blackburn

[Jimmy Dore]

to try to get it out, but then Dick Turbin comes over the top

[Max Blumenthal]

and says, no, we're not going to release the names.

[Jimmy Dore]

I don't care about the list itself.

[Sean Ryan]

But it released the names, right?

[Jimmy Dore]

What the hell are the House Republicans doing?

[Sean Ryan]

They have the majority.

[Jimmy Dore]

You can't get the list.

[Max Blumenthal]

You're gonna accept Dick Durbin's word or whoever that guy is, as to who is on that list and who isn't

[Sean Ryan]

and that it can and can't be released.

[Max Blumenthal]

Put on your big boy pants and

[Jimmy Dore]

let us know who the pedophiles are.

[Max Blumenthal]

We have an election coming up and we need to adjudicate this matter at the polls. God knows the FBI and DOJ aren't going to do anything.

[Jimmy Dore]

And. And wait till I'm the head of the FBI and I don't do anything. And then I have Dan Bonjino and he doesn't do anything, and we all don't do anything and we all about Epstein killing himself.

[Kurt Metzger]

And then we call you names and also try to get the FBI to investigate you for asking us about the thing we said we were going to do.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes. So they're going to investigate me for pointing out that they didn't do the thing they said they were going to do.

[Kurt Metzger]

You're a piece of shit. I'll be damagino. You just say a reasonable thing. Shut up, you idiot. You're too stupid to know anything.

[Jimmy Dore]

And if you like to hear my Dan Bongino jokes, come see me this weekend in Spokane, Tacoma. I'll be in Levittown, New York, June 26th and 27th, and then Chicago, September 18th to the 20th. Go to Jimmy Dore.com for a link for tickets and we'll be right back. We have our guest coming out, a guy who's running against Randy Fine, the Zio crazy person from Florida. So we have his. One of his challengers, you know, Dan Bilzerian is challenging. Well, there's another guy challenging.

[Kurt Metzger]

Very interested to see this.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, well, you should watch. We'll be right back.

[Steph]

Okay. We're back, ladies and gentlemen. All right, here we go. You know what? I saw somebody's chat. I want to remind you, when you go to see one of Jimmy shows, go to our website site and you'll get a link directly to the venues. So you want to go to Jimmy Dore, Jimmy Dore.com Go to Jimmy Door.com Go to Jimmy Dore.com and look for the tours drop menu. And then right there, there are links to the shows. Somebody was saying that the tickets were outrageous, and I'm like, you're going through a second person. You want to. Our tickets usually range, we start at $35, 65 bucks for VIP, but then different venues have different additional charges. So if you're paying more, you're going outside the venue. So go to Jimmy Dore dot com. All right.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, don't go to people go to. There's lots of websites that hack and then they sell tickets at way more money than we sell them for. We sell our tickets for $35. So that's a general admission. And then. But the, the premium VIP tickets are $65, so. But we, we make it $35, I think is very affordable for everybody. That's. That's.

[Steph]

I think that that's been our price for easily five years.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. For a long time. Yeah.

[Steph]

For sure. Make a movie tickets like 25 bucks. Really? I don't go to the movies anymore. Anyways, back to the chat.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay. All right, let's.

[Steph]

You ready, Jim?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. Mr. Jim, we have a special guest with us, Aaron Baker, Republican candidate in the upcoming election for Florida 6 congressional district House seat. He is challenging incumbent Randy Fine, who won the seat in 2025 special election. Baker, who lost a fine in that 2025 special election primary, is campaigning on America first platform focusing on economic recovery, education, constitutional rights. The primary election takes place on August 18th. Welcome to the show, Aaron Baker. Hey, Aaron, thank you for showing up.

[Aaron Baker]

Well, certainly thank you for having me.

[Jimmy Dore]

So, so tell, tell me, what made you want to run against Randy Fine?

[Aaron Baker]

Well, I knew how horrible of a person he was, and I knew that I could do a better job. And I actually care about people and I've read the Constitution and I respect the Constitution and I respect the people here in the 6th Congressional District.

[Jimmy Dore]

And what. So he. How does he not respect the Constitution? That's what you're implying, right?

[Aaron Baker]

Well, I mean, he voted to extend fisa. That's the Fourth amendment violation. When he was in the Florida House, he passed anti Semitic laws. That's a First Amendment violation. When he was in the Florida House, he voted for red flag laws. That's a Second Amendment violation. So, I mean, that's three just in matter of 15 seconds.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, wow. Okay, what is. He voted in favor of anti Semitic laws because he's a big Zionist. I know that.

[Aaron Baker]

Well, I mean, he voted so that in Florida, if you even put up a poster that he disagrees with that, that could be. That you could be prosecuted under state law. And that. That was the law that was signed when he was in the State House.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, all right. And what's. Is that. What's the red flag?

[Aaron Baker]

So red flag. They lowered the. Excuse me. Raised the age of which you could buy a gun from 18 to 21.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, okay. Okay. And so how do you, how do you come down on that?

[Aaron Baker]

Well, I mean, I'm 100% pro Second Amendment. I don't. I don't believe that hate speech exists other than the fact I don't think you can run into a crowded theater and yell fire. As long as your speech does not directly cause harm to someone. I don't think that your speech is limited under the First Amendment of our Constitution or Bill of Rights.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay. Now famously, you have another challenger, Dan Bilzerian is also running in this, and he said his motivation is that he's anti Israel. And where do you come down on Israel?

[Aaron Baker]

I'm anti Zionist. I'm not anti Israel. I have nothing against the people of Israel. I think the government of Israel is a genus. Are genocidal maniacs. That does not extend to the people. For example, I have nothing against Jewish people, but I do not support the government of Israel.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay. You know, you've seen those polls where 82% of the people in Israel agree with the genocide that's happening in Gaza and they think it's. And a lot of them even have something. It should be more brutal. You've seen those polls?

[Aaron Baker]

I have seen those polls.

[Jimmy Dore]

And so go ahead.

[Aaron Baker]

I've called out the genocide in Gaza and the incursions into Lebanon. I don't think that either are legal. I mean, I certainly believe that Netanyahu is a war criminal. However, my distinction is I don't think that all Israeli people are bad. I think the government of Israel is, are genocidal maniacs.

[Jimmy Dore]

So I'm sure you're aware of this. AIPAC tracker put this out. And they said, randy Fines, new Republican primary challenger, also supports sending billions of our tax dollars to Israel every year. And they quote you, and they say, I will support Israel's defense and expand the Abraham Accords, encouraging Palestine to join if they seek peace. So how do you respond to this?

[Aaron Baker]

So that was last year, and I rewrote that with policy advisors after Israel went and kidnapped one of the Palestinian kids, Muhammad Ibrahim, who's a Florida citizen, dual Florida and Palestinian citizen. So my stance on Israel did change drastically last year from where I would support their defense to now. You know, I don't want to have anything to do with anything that they, that they're doing. I mean, I think that they're using currently they're using chemicals that we sold them in 2023 that the US government sold them against the citizens of Lebanon, which under international criminal court or, you know, international war standards, they're not supposed to use. So obviously this was before the point of which I thought that they were committing a genocide in Gaza. Now, that I certainly believe they are, and I've called them out for that. And you know, the atrocities going on in Lebanon.

[Jimmy Dore]

And so, you know, the district is overwhelmingly conservative Republican, and they were overwhelmingly voted for Trump. How do you come down on Trump and his complete 180 on his campaign promises?

[Aaron Baker]

Well, I mean, I tell people, I think that the Trump that we all voted for, and I voted for Trump five times, two primaries, three general elections. The Trump that we elected in the second term is not to Trump that we expected. The Trump that we expected was the Trump that we had in the first term. And, you know, we did not vote for 4 and $5 gas. We did not vote for endless wars. We voted for exactly the opposite. We were told that we were in Iran or that the only reason that we could possibly go into Iran was because we had idiots negotiating. Well, if we're in Iran now, what does that mean? We have idiots negotiating now? Or, you know, there's a foreign government that's pulling all the strings? Obviously, if you look at events as recent as last night, President Trump told Netanyahu, you know, do not retaliate against Iran. And what does Netanyahu do? He shoots off rockets toward Iran and blows half the airport up.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, well, he can't afford to have a peace deal because if he does, he'll go to prison and he knows it. So that's why there's going to be endless wars vis a vis Israel. They can't have peace. That's why they're fighting everybody and everywhere, not only in Gaza, but in Lebanon. And they've got a saber rattling with Turkey now, which is a NATO member, and of course Iran, of course Yemen, and everybody, everybody that anybody they can launch a missile at, they will. So, you know, you're, you're. Dan Bilzerian is brought up that, you know, it's, it's an, it's an overwhelmingly conservative Republican district. Are you afraid that your private life will have an effect on the voters?

[Aaron Baker]

No.

[Jimmy Dore]

No. Okay. All right, fantastic. Um, and so do you. I know there's no polling. Right. So there's no polling. Um, how did, how did, how did your first run at. Or any Fine turnout. How much of the vote did you garner? 14% or something like that? Yeah, I mean, it was, it was

[Aaron Baker]

right under 15% in the special election. So special election is announced or was announced right before Christmas. And you had basically the month of January. The primary was on January 31st. So you had one month. And at that point, I had zero name recognition, and I had about $30,000 in order to run in the same amount of time. Randy Fine spent $3 million in the special election. Primary. So cost per vote, Mac. Cost per vote was about $6 in the primary, where fines was over $100. So going into it this time, I filed my paperwork literally the day after Randy Fine won the special election. And I said I needed one of two things. I either needed more money or more time. And this time I have both. I have more money and more time. So, for example, today I'm sitting in the parking lot talking to you in my truck because I'm at the third of three events that I'm doing today. I've been to Mount Dora, DeLand and St. Augustine, all in the district today. And that's, that's what I do every day. I mean, just keep going.

[Jimmy Dore]

And so do you think it would make sense since you are now you've switched your position? You're anti Zionist, anti Israeli government. You're not for funding their defense anymore. And so that's Dan Bilzerian's whole reason for getting into the race. Do you think. Aren't you afraid you're going to split the vote and that somehow you should kind of figure out a way to. That you don't do that.

[Aaron Baker]

Well, I mean, I would prefer. Dan, just go back home to Las Vegas and call it a day.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay.

[Aaron Baker]

I Mean, I live here. I was born in Florida. I live in the congressional district. Dan lives in Las Vegas. Randy Fine lives 100 miles south of the congressional district. So, you know, it's. It's almost like your previous guest of, you know, let's pick a district that we can try to win. I just don't. I don't get this. I mean, we have real issues here in this district that people need help with. You know, I mean, the meeting that I'm at right now, we're talking about infrastructure needs in this district. I don't. I don't even know if Dan can spell infrastructure.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay. Wow, that's nice. That's a nice shot.

[Dan Bongino]

Bang.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's good. So I didn't know Randy Fine didn't. He doesn't live in the district either.

[Aaron Baker]

No. As Governor DeSantis said after the election, Governor DeSantis said, why would you elect somebody that lives 150 miles that way? Granted, Governor DeSantis is about 50 miles that way, so his math was correct at that point. But, you know, from where I sit right now, it's about 200 miles south because I'm at the very tip top portion of the district in South St. Augustine.

[Jimmy Dore]

And so what. What do voters tell you that. Why don't they care that they're voting for someone who lives 100 miles south of their district?

[Aaron Baker]

Well, they did, but at that point, they didn't know.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, really? Okay.

[Aaron Baker]

You know, they're like, oh, it's a special election. And, you know, Randy Fine sent out. Some people receive 15 postcards in the mail in the matter of 30 days. Well, each postcard that you send out cost about $80,000, so that's great. That's $1.2 million right there. Unless you have just buku gobs of Zionist crazy money, you can't do things like that. So you have to get out and meet the voters. And, you know, today when I was at a luncheon in Mount Dora, you know, I had 30 voters, and they're like, I'm never gonna vote for him again.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay.

[Aaron Baker]

You know, we held our nose last time. We're not doing it again.

[Jimmy Dore]

And how's your fundraising going?

[Aaron Baker]

I could always use more money. I mean, you know, everybody always says, you know, you could. You could always use more money. I mean, this time I've raised about $80,000, so, I mean, $80,000 is nothing to sneeze at, but, you know, it. It's not the. The Dan Bilzerian. Originally, when. When I spoke to Dan back in December, of last year he had said, well, let's touch base after the first of the year and I'll help you as much as I can, raise some money. And then reached out to him again and, you know, just kind of fell by the wayside. And then we spoke again in March and he's like, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to do this myself and I'm going to put $2 million of my own money into this congressional race. So I'd like to know how much of his own money he's put into this race, because I don't think it's a penny.

[Jimmy Dore]

And so, so you say you're America first. Does that, does that include ending US Involvement in, let's say, Ukraine? Cutting aid to places like Ukraine and Israel?

[Aaron Baker]

Ukraine's a joke. I mean, we shouldn't, Ukraine is the biggest money laundering scheme ever to exist outside of Israel. So, I mean, I'm completely done with that. I have zero interest. And we need to talk about things like in 2033, if we don't do something, Social Security has a 22 to 25% automatic cut. We need to stop funding Ukraine, stop funding Israel, stop funding railroads in Africa and start talking about how we're going to make sure that seniors in this congressional district can live because right now they're living paycheck to paycheck. I mean, that's, you know, we're not even talking about the, we're not even having the right conversations.

[Jimmy Dore]

So you would be against cutting entitlements like Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security or.

[Aaron Baker]

No, I would be against cutting entitlements.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, so you're going to protect, you'll protect everybody's health care, self security and Medicare?

[Aaron Baker]

Yeah, the, the average voting age in this congressional district for a Republican primary voter is 50.7 years old. When I go down and look at the voter rolls and I have one right behind me here, you know, you'll see 87, 67, 61. You know, these are, a lot of these people are dependent on that, you know, on Social Security from the government and rightfully so. They've paid into it for 40 years. Why should they not depend on it? You know, it's not our fault. I mean, it's not my fault that government has robbed a Social Security trust fund so many times. But now, you know, we're going to be in a buying. But, you know, these are issues that we need to be talking about. You know, I'm completely done with foreign aid to anyone until we get these issues solved.

[Jimmy Dore]

And where do you stand on big tech censorship?

[Aaron Baker]

Well, I think Palantir is the second coming of the devil. You know, in Florida, one of the. One of the big concerns that we have are AI data centers, and we don't. We do not have the electrical supply, and we do not have the water supply to handle these AI data centers. And that's a huge issue in the governor's race here.

[Jimmy Dore]

And so you're against the AI data centers?

[Aaron Baker]

I'm against the AI data centers. I'm against flock cameras. Flock cameras are another Fourth amendment violation. I mean, you do have the right to feel secure in your persons and papers.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, well, Randy Fine is certainly one of the most disgusting creatures in politics that I've seen in my lifetime. So we wish you well, and I hope it. I hope either of you could get rid of this guy. That'd be fantastic. I appreciate you coming on, Aaron. Thank you very much.

[Aaron Baker]

Thank you. God bless you.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay. Oh, let's go to a card. We'll be right back. Okay.

[Steph]

Oh, Jimmy, you're already.

[Jimmy Dore]

No, you can go ahead.

[Steph]

Oh, okay. I need some they live glasses that will show me the true face of Zionists. That was from fsl. Let's go here. It was a great interview, Jimmy. Congratulations. That's about Tucker. Everything's a scam, Everything's a lie, everything's hypocrisy. So you don't comply. Vienticus. Protect the vulnerable vigilante. Hi, Malcolm, Steph, Jimmy, Kurt. Appreciate you all. Mystery Man X says who? The F watches the Bangina show. I. I hear that his ratings aren't that good or like the viewership definitely took a tank.

[Kurt Metzger]

They just have to fake that they have a following a lot. All these shows, like, buy followers and stuff. And it's almost like the idea of busking where you throw a few dollars into the guitar case to get it going.

[Steph]

Yes, I have one of those here in the studio. I put some bucks in. Nobody ever. I don't get it. Here we go. His posts read like his balls are kicking themselves in. That's vienticus funny.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay.

[Steph]

Oh, and earlier, Kim Iverson rated the stream Way to go, Kim. Back to Jim Jam.

[Jimmy Dore]

So there's been a lot of hubbub, if that people still say that term, about the UFC fighter, the middleweight champion, not being invited to the UFC event at the White House because he's anti Israel. But now we got Brian Bryce Mitchell, so he's got some words for Ben Shapiro. So this is. Be careful. All I'm Saying is Ben can rip off his eyebrows and whip them around like a cross between woodchucks and nunchucks just to let you know. Okay, here we go.

[Max Blumenthal]

I tell you right now, you Ben

[Jimmy Dore]

Shapiro, I'll beat your ass. And look, if you mess with Candace

[Max Blumenthal]

Owens, I promise you, if you lay

[Jimmy Dore]

one little greasy finger on Candace Owens, I'm gonna beat your ass. I'm gonna roll up on you shirts off.

[Max Blumenthal]

I'm gonna have the twins with me.

[Jimmy Dore]

We gonna be chest. Cause you mess with Candace Owens, we gonna be looking shirts off me in the middle. We gonna look like a six foot tall Oreo.

[Max Blumenthal]

Coming at you, buddy.

[Sean Ryan]

We.

[Jimmy Dore]

We gonna stomp your ass to the ground. Don't you mess with candy, baby. I'm telling you right now, I don't like Ben Shapiro. I'll say it to his face. Bring him on the show because he wants. He wants Christian people in this country

[Max Blumenthal]

that he already steals their tax dollars off of. He's part of this corrupted government. He's a piece of just like the rest of them. He wants us to go die to bomb Muslim kids for his Jewish people because he's too scared to do it.

[Jimmy Dore]

How come Ben Shapiro said since he's all about this war, how come he don't. How come he don't sign up for the army? Because he's a

[Larry Johnson]

These war.

[Jimmy Dore]

Whoa. That's some pretty strong words. I bet Ben Shapiro is better watch wrong. He is not wrong. I'm saying I agree with him. Just got to watch out if he rips off his eyebrows and comes at you. That's all I'm saying.

[Kurt Metzger]

I just don't think it was on the table for Ben to lay a hand on Candace Owens. I think she could beat him up.

[Jimmy Dore]

I. I think so too.

[Kurt Metzger]

He's being funny, though, that guy. That seemed like to me, here's.

[Jimmy Dore]

Here's that guy Strickland who got this is the guy was banned. And so here, let's hear what he has to say. I think the white man's gonna do it. Although Stern has a.

[Kurt Metzger]

Has a little Jewish ring to it.

[Jimmy Dore]

I've never met too many Jews that are tough.

[Steph]

You did or didn't.

[Jimmy Dore]

I don't a lot of Jews that come into the gym like, I love

[Steph]

you guys, but there's not a lot of Jewish fighters.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, I don't know why. They're just like, I don't know, man.

[Ben Owens]

Maybe they're.

[Kurt Metzger]

Maybe they're just so used to bombing kids, you know?

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, bam.

[Kurt Metzger]

Maybe because Krav Maga doesn't work.

[Jimmy Dore]

So that. That's. I think she got a little scared when he said that.

[Mark Caputo]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

What show is this? Is that a UFC show? What is this? That. That looks like Monster drink, right? They're Stephanie. Sponsored by Monster. Does it say UFC on her? He doesn't seem. She doesn't seem happy about that. Maybe. I say he needs to go into the ring with Randy Fine. Randy Fine doesn't go to a gymnasium. He goes to a mayonnaisium, if you know what I'm talking about. Come on. Randy Fine's got that never fail technique of falling on you, which requires an excavation team and rescue dogs to get you out. That's Randy Fine. That's his secret trick.

[Kurt Metzger]

Max Baer was Jewish, that boxer.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, Max Baer. Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's a famous guy.

[Jimmy Dore]

He was tough, so maybe he's wrong about that. Anyway, just wanted to show you. I thought that was funny. I thought I'd show it to you over Steph.

[Steph]

Okay. Thank you so much, Jimmy. Here we go. Everything's a scam. Everything's a lie. Everything's hypocrisy. So I derp on Kirp while I drink the slurp. Miss.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's fine. We don't need that message every day, do we?

[Steph]

No, we don't. This one.

[Jimmy Dore]

But he paid.

[Steph]

This is something different. This is. This is a Vienticus. This is somebody playing on the Vienticus. Kind of. Yeah, yeah. It took a turn that I didn't like.

[Jimmy Dore]

All right, come.

[Steph]

I got to be honest about it. Back to Jimmy.

[Jimmy Dore]

So we. We've already covered this on the show. That there's lots of evidence that Epstein's still alive. One of the things was that one of the guards posted on 4chan that they came to get him in the middle of the night on a Saturday when they don't normally. So here's. Here's what he said. Not saying anything after this. Please do not try to dox it. But last night, after 4:15 count, they took him him medical in a wheelchair, front cuffed, but not one triage nurse says they spoke to him. Next thing we know, a trip fan shows up. We do not do releases on the weekend unless a judge orders it. Next thing we know, he's put in a single man cell and hangs himself. Here's the thing. The trip van did not sign in and we did not record the plate number. And a guy in a green dress military outfit was in the back of the van according to a lower guy who led him through the gate. You guys, I am shaking Right now. But I think they switched him out. So that's from. That's confirmed that that was from a guard. That was from a guard at the house. So it's this guy Gralva, Roberto Grialva. So. And he's from the prison and we've showed you this, that it doesn't look like him. His ears don't match up the lot. The alive Epstein, the dead Epstein. The ears are totally different.

[Kurt Metzger]

The nose, prostate grew back.

[Jimmy Dore]

The price prostate grew back. Here's another one that shows you. So there. The nose is not the same. I don't know, maybe the nose could be different once you die, but the ear thing is super sus. Those are totally different ears.

[Kurt Metzger]

Also the constant files popping up about how he was alive for years living in various places.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. Plus he was using his old emails, plus he was using his old login to do video games.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, he's still playing. He's still playing video games under his old account.

[Jimmy Dore]

So here's this guy, Ben Owens. He thinks. He thinks he's alive. Let's listen.

[Ben Owens]

Post life signals that are interesting. You brought up the Fortnite one. I am not convinced that the official Fortnite position is anything but part of the COVID up.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's. That's what he's talking about, that Fortnite, which is that gaming thing and for life. And so Fortnite, their official position is no, it's not him. But he's like, I think it's a cover up. Okay, here we go.

[Ben Owens]

Could be wrong. I'm not going to hold on to that one too tight. Maybe hit another gaming account that went live called War Thunder under the email that he had. I don't know anything about War Thunder, but the email he had, G J vacation gmail.com I believe it is. There's receipts and things like that. There's activity on that email afterwards that's very interesting. If everyone thinks you're dead, what do you care? If you use the same email, your files aren't coming out. No one has access to your Gmail. So those are intriguing. And then the most intriguing for me is there's a YouTuber named Rusty Shackelford and he flew a drone over little St. James and he got like two hours of footage. 4K looks like great resolution. And as he flies around, he brings the drone over roughly the middle of the island. Ish. And there's some side by side sitting there. And the drone is positioned above these side by sides. And there's someone in one of the side by sides in the driver's seat, who leans forward and looks up at the drone and then goes back in that side by side. And that person looked like an older gentleman with gray hair that met my threshold of this should be looked at. This is post death. And let me tell you something about that island, because I've been to it. You wanted to hide somewhere. These intelligence people will hide in plain sight. It wouldn't be a bad option, especially if you have to clean up some loose ends with your computers or technical infrastructure. No one's going to think you're alive. And even if I came forward and I said he's alive and he's on that island, people would laugh at me. No way, man. No way. So it's not an unsafe place, particularly because you can stay there with extreme privacy. And the only way that you wouldn't have privacy is if someone has an aerial shot of you, which it seems really unlikely, but this guy did. He flew this drone over. And you can watch this footage on Rumble. It's been taken down all over the Internet, but it's still up on Rumble as of today. Who knows if it'll still be up, but I'm sure people have preserved it. You can look and make your own decision. This is post death and pre AI, which meets our criteria if it's after he died and before the introduction of large language models which can edit images. All right, we'll put that in. So you take all of these now in totality, from the passport

[Sean Ryan]

to the

[Ben Owens]

conditions in the jail cell, the trust, the escape plan.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's talking about that they were still moving money around from his bank accounts after his supposed death.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yes, that was well reported. As a matter of fact, yes.

[Jimmy Dore]

So there's that him using his log in for those gaming sites. There's this drone footage. There's the pictures of his dead body and live body that don't match up. I don't know what he meant by the passport, but let's listen. There's more to this.

[Ben Owens]

The condition of the body when he is willed out on the gurney, walk your way all the way down. And then post life signals that carry some weight. The option with the fewest problems of the three is that he left that cell alive. And he left that cell alive. We want proof of life.

[Jimmy Dore]

Do you think you'll ever find out?

[Ben Owens]

We're gonna try. Here's how we're gonna do it and are doing it. So, Alex, my co founder and I work for Rewards for Justice, the federal government's rewards program. For information about the who's who in the national security world of bad guys, It's a very effective program. Put out $5 million for Bob Bad guy. Say that you're took a different path in life and you're Sean Ryan and you run a terrorist network and everyone that's in your staff here is part of your terrorist network. And then you wake up one day and you see on the news that there's $5 million reward for information about the location of Sean Ryan. What are you worried about?

[Jimmy Dore]

A lot of things.

[Ben Owens]

Yeah. You're worried about everyone that knows your eye color, your plate numbers, where you bed down. It creates incentives for betrayal within your network. It also restricts your freedom of movement and closes your horizons. You can't travel anymore, can't be on planes, can't be jet setting. You can't be driving around past marketplaces going to see your associate friends. It makes the enemy adjust their TTPS. We don't have $5 million, but we do have is a lot of people that are mad about this. And we started the reward pool and put in 40,000 of our own money. And people are contributing to this re pool. If we're wrong, and I'm willing to be wrong, in fact I would prefer to be wrong, I take no satisfaction being right about this. If we're wrong, every dollar in that reward pool goes to Ben's organization. We fight monsters to help people in trafficking and addiction. Every dollar. We're wrong and we can't prove it. But if we're right, that reward pool will grow and grow year over year as a long term commitment to justice and truth incentivize people to come forward. And if people have proof of life, we want direct observational evidence, not open source. I mean Ben is doing the open source side. My human collection side wants direct observational evidence. I was his driver, I was his gardener, I was his plastic surgeon. Those people, because his associates aren't going to care. Say we get it to a million dollars. Say some crazy person watching this who has a ton of money and says I believe in this and puts in $10 million. His associates don't care about that much money. They don't care. But you know who would care are all of the logistical parts of his life that have people that require. They're required to hide someone. Gardeners, security, drivers, maids, plastic surgeons, People that know, and this is not a fringe belief that he's alive among his people in the Virgin Islands and people that you know, went to high school with him. Survivors of his crimes. So you build a reward pool big enough it becomes expensive to stay silent.

[Jimmy Dore]

Where do people go for that?

[Ben Owens]

They can go to epsteinisintdead.org, read the evidence, make your own conclusion. If you believe in this and you think you left that cell alive, consider the reward pool. The other thing that they can do is go to closedhorizon.com where we've created a marketplace for truth. We are tired of being lied to about everything and constant deception. Tired of it. There are questions that matter and are dangerous questions. If I'm right, this is a dangerous question. Close Horizon allows anyone to create a campaign and fund it, like GoFundMe and pay sources for information. Whatever your question is, there's other questions out there that are dangerous questions. Who really killed Charlie Kirk? It's a dangerous question. They don't have to be big questions. They can be little ones, too.

[Jimmy Dore]

Who really killed jfk?

[Ben Owens]

Who killed jfk? These are big ones.

[Larry Johnson]

Where those files go.

[Jimmy Dore]

I mean, we were told they were

[Larry Johnson]

going to release those files, right?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. Yep.

[Ben Owens]

He campaigned on that, right? Trump did.

[Larry Johnson]

If my memory is correct, yes, he did.

[Ben Owens]

Why is everything a lie?

[Jimmy Dore]

Don't comply.

[Ben Owens]

This is what I mean by an epistemological crisis. We have become accustomed to being lied to about everything.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, everything's a psyop. It's Kurt. It sounds like he's saying everything's a psyop because we're living in one huge psyop.

[Kurt Metzger]

All the victims of your scumbag intel agencies, foul machinations, have been ratting them out for going on 40 years now. It's exciting to see Sean Ryan discover it. But you could just go find out from all the victims of this and kind of piece their stories together and figure it out. I did. It's not that hard. It's just. You're not gonna. None of them are saying Monarch. And I know. Sean Ryan, not his real name, by the way, knows all about Monarch. I know he does.

[Jimmy Dore]

So what the hell was I gonna ask you now? I just fell out of my head. Do you still know people? This. This might sound. Talk about how everything's a psyop. Almost everybody I know in Hollywood still thinks ivermectin is horse paste.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, that's because they're actors. And Hollywood people are stupid whores. They're illiterate, moronic whores. All of them are the dumbest whores that ever lived. An actor is a whore, traditionally, always has been. If you've heard of yachting, that has carried through till today. So they don't care about anything except getting their dream of the movies. That's all they care about. So they haven't looked into it is my guess.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, they. Well, of course they haven't.

[Kurt Metzger]

Because if I don't want to risk showbiz, I want to risk my showbiz career.

[Jimmy Dore]

If you look into it for two seconds, you know for a fact that you've been lied to about Ivermectin. It takes one Google search to find out it's a Nobel Prize winning medicine, it's on the WHO list of essential medicines. And that they knew that it would. It treated Covid in vitro. They knew this.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, and cancer. Now it turns out, by the way,

[Jimmy Dore]

now it treats cancer.

[Kurt Metzger]

I like when Sean Paul Massano, his real name, talks about this stuff. I'm a little bit baffled why an ex Navy SEAL who was friendly, by the way, Remember he went on a quest to find out why that guy blew up his Tesla truck instead of

[Jimmy Dore]

at Trump Tower in Trump in Vegas.

[Kurt Metzger]

And then they put out lies about the guy and nothing ever came of it. And we never spoke of it again. And I've never heard him bring it up since then. And I'm real curious about it, Mr. Palmisano. I'm curious how a guy retired from the CIA and ran a drug network in Colombia on his own, not being in the CIA. That's very straight. That's his words, not mine. He told this to Megyn Kelly. I thought it was made up because it's so far fetched, but then I watched him tell it to her. So his backstory is funny as hell.

[Jimmy Dore]

So this. So this. A lot of people would say this is a limited hangout show.

[Kurt Metzger]

It seems like it to me. But I. I don't know, man. Look, everybody, a lot of people that are in the thing don't realize and it dawns on them slowly. And I've seen it, so I know that's possible. But why do you have a changed name and how did you manage that? Drug Colombia thing is so insane. And I don't see some gringo just running a drug network in Colombia without direct intel backup. And we know the CIA who he worked for, brought crack and all that shit in the country on purpose. So it's like watching him go, oh, wow, that's weird, you know, you were in the CIA, dude, and your real name's not the name you're telling me. So why are you acting like it's a surprise? That's all. That's my question.

[Jimmy Dore]

Is he wearing a CIA Mask.

[Kurt Metzger]

I don't know. I don't know. He looks like from that show Doug on Nickelodeon, the cartoon.

[Jimmy Dore]

I think it's funny. Guys wear these baseball hats that look like they've been in the. In their trunk for a couple of weeks. Like, how is that a good look? I don't. I don't understand. You know, what people I like to wear. I like to wear nice fedoras, you

[Kurt Metzger]

know, and fedora is different on an older man than a. Anybody younger. Fedora on a younger man is. Is absolutely. Never do it.

[Jimmy Dore]

And people.

[Kurt Metzger]

The guy can wear it.

[Jimmy Dore]

People say to me, they go, oh, you wearing a hat from the 40s? You don't think they had baseball hats in the 40s? They've had baseball hats in the 1800s. What are you talking about?

[Kurt Metzger]

I like to wear a hat shirt and no pants. But guess what? I get judged. Pair on clouds.

[Jimmy Dore]

I just. I started wearing a fedora because I just got sick and tired of everybody wearing baseball hats all the time. Like trucker hats, you know, it's like, what is it. Is it. Is it laundry day every day? I just. I just got tired. That's just my own personal thing. I'm not. I don't have anything. I don't have a problem with baseball hats. Some of them look nice, but I don't think that looks nice. That what he's wearing right there. Look, can you show. I don't think that. That just looks. I don't know. I. I could maybe. Maybe I'm being too picky.

[Max Blumenthal]

What do you think about this drug

[Kurt Metzger]

network thing I was mentioning?

[Jimmy Dore]

I. I like. I like baseball caps. You like baseball caps?

[Steph]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

All right, I'm sorry.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's a very Latina answer. Well, at Tino's.

[Jimmy Dore]

All right, we gotta. You know, our guest is waiting. We got to get to our guest. All right, Max Blumenthal's up next. Okay, we'll see you on the other side, Kirk. All right, we'll be right back. Hey, everybody, welcome back. We're here with Max Blumenthal, award winning journalist. Everybody knows Max from the Gray zone. Hey, Max, how are you?

[Max Blumenthal]

Good to see you, Jimmy.

[Jimmy Dore]

Good to see you, too. I wanted to have you on because this is a big story. Pentagon raised threat of Israeli spying on us to the highest levels, sources say. And let me skip this, but here, let me. Let me play this for you. This is. This is Philip Giraldi, former CIA counterterrorism officer. He says this former CIA counterterrorism officer Philip Giraldi is on a mission he says he wants to expose how costly and dangerous Israeli espionage is to the United States. Israel steals technology, steals secrets from the United States. Giraldi is the executive director of the Council for the National Anti Interest foundation, which just released a 12 page overview written by Giraldi called the Spy who Loves Us.

[Sean Ryan]

He says Israel conducts more espionage against

[Jimmy Dore]

America than any other US Ally. It should almost be seen like an act of war. Giraldi says Israel profits from selling US Technology.

[Max Blumenthal]

It gets really serious when Israel uses these technologies and sells them to countries that are not friendly to the United States. For I would cite the example of

[Jimmy Dore]

a Chinese jet, the J10, which was, was built with a lot of technology that came originally from the United States. Giraldi says Israeli spying has bankrupted some American companies. I'll get phone calls from people actually who worked for companies that went out of business because Israel had stolen their technology and done that sort of thing, and the company goes bankrupt. According to his report, virtually all US Government bodies, including the FBI and General Accountability Office, have confirmed that Israeli espionage takes place. And while collecting intelligence is part of the function of government, Israel crosses the line. Giraldi says the intensity and persistency of Israel's spying is particularly disturbing considering how dependent Israel is on America's political and military support. Well, it will only change when the politics change. And the politics have to change in

[Max Blumenthal]

a way that the United States, for one reason or another, begins to see

[Jimmy Dore]

Israel just like we see every other

[Max Blumenthal]

country, Italy, Germany, France, and treat them the same way.

[Jimmy Dore]

But as long as Israel has a special relationship which is backed up by

[Max Blumenthal]

Congress and backed by, up by the media, it won't change.

[Jimmy Dore]

Geraldi says Israeli lobbies have too much power in Washington. Okay, so we all, we all know that. So, and it's, it's come out that recently they were spying on Witkoff, the people who were supposed to be negotiating the peace deal with Iran. So that means that they're actually spying on Donald Trump, right? Max,

[Max Blumenthal]

we, we know they've spied on Donald Trump. I mean, that's confirmed.

[Jimmy Dore]

So how. I didn't. Who confirmed that?

[Max Blumenthal]

During the first Trump administration, three former senior U.S. officials told POLITICO that Israel had planted stingray surveillance devices throughout the White House that was to target Donald Trump. And I reported in 2025 that Israel had placed Israeli agents who seemed to be escorting Netanyahu in the United States had attempted to place a tracking device on a Secret Service emergency response vehicle. That vehicle was, I was told, was the vehicle that would have responded to an emergency involving the president. The New York Times confirmed that, citing numerous U.S. official sources, including Pentagon Defense Intelligence Agency sources, in its report last week on Israeli spying. Explicitly confirmed what I had reported back in 2025. That, I mean, that was another operation that I see as targeting Trump and, you know, very unusual. It would be the vehicle that would have responded to potentially an assassination attempt on Trump. So a lot of people might have called me crazy back then, but, I mean, they have nothing to say now.

[Jimmy Dore]

And so this. So the most recent reports of Netanyahu spying or Israel spying on Donald Trump is because he's been shut out of the. The Pakistani talks on trying to get a peace deal with the red. Let me just play this for you. Here's Larry Johnson, former CIA, and here's what he says. Why Netanyahu spying on him now.

[Aaron Baker]

Personal negotiator.

[Jimmy Dore]

Which basically means they're going to spy on Trump himself, since Trump talks to them.

[Larry Johnson]

Well, not going to. They are. That was. They are spying and they have. I was a little amused by the story because it was pretending like this was something new. Israel has been spying on the United States for, you know, 70 years or maybe 60. Two words. Jonathan Pollard. So this is not new. You know, it's just. It comes with the territory. But this particular claim that they. Israel was now specifically targeting people in and around Trump who are involved in the negotiations with Pakistan because Israel didn't. Wasn't being briefed. They wanted to know what the hell's going on because they were concerned that Trump was going to cut a deal. And in fact, that's why Bibi Netanyahu bombed Beirut yesterday in order to destroy this prospect for a negotiated settlement, because it's going to leave them out in the dark and it's going to change the face of West Asia, Middle east, the Levant. Pick your term.

[Jimmy Dore]

So does that tell you that Israel was afraid they were close to a peace deal and they knew that because of the spying and that's why they bombed Lebanon.

[Max Blumenthal]

Yeah, I mean, Netanyahu and Israel are trying to blow up negotiations between the US And Iran. Literally. And I guess in a symbolic sense, by. Or in a more metaphorical sense, by waging a media war, you know, attacking Trump administration officials through the media and spying on the Trump administration and the, you know, predictable blow. I was on Judge Napolitano last week, and I said, Israel's not going to be able to tolerate Donald Trump negotiating with Iran and moving close to a memorandum of understanding that might unfreeze Iranian assets, that might solidify the Iran's control over the Strait of Hormuz. You know, a nuclear deal that didn't require Iran to hand over its enriched uranium, that's unacceptable to Israel. It would have been a major, it would have been a final defeat for Netanyahu. And so I said, you know, what they're going to do is they're going to attack Beirut and Iran will respond and they will go back to some form of escalation, if not a third round of warfare. And that's exactly what happened. Israel attacked a building in Dahia. This is like the Shia majority area in southern Lebanon where the community of support for Hezbollah and the resistance to Israel lives. The building had no strategic value. Israel said it was just sending a message. It killed a bunch of bystanders. You know, it wasn't even really a clear assassination attempt. They were just trying to attack Beirut to cross the red line, daring Iran to resp. Iran to respond. And Iran did just that because Iran had laid out clear terms following the ceasefire that was signed, I believe in, in March, that, you know, Beirut is off limits. Remember, Israel attacked Beirut to attempt to blow up the ceasefire initially and carried out a massacre all across Beirut. Over 300 people killed. It was one of the bloodiest days since the civil war in the 1980s. And so here they come again. And Israel got rocked. There were over 100 missiles. A lot of these were sophisticated missiles, Haramshar 4s, some hypersonic. And the Ramat Gan Air base was attacked. There were other strategic targets attacked inside Israel. Then the Israelis responded and the response was interesting. They didn't send any jets over Iranian airspace, was all standoff because they were concerned about potentially losing jets to Iranian anti aircraft systems and then having like a pilot lost without the US being involved to stage some kind of rescue operation. It wasn't it. The US provided logistical support for sure, but there was still a disconnect between the Israelis and the US and the Israelis defied Donald Trump flagrantly. We know that because of the leaks that came out of the Trump administration to their favorite, you know, dump, dump site, Axios, and to former Israeli spy Barack Ravid, where Trump officials, I think I have an idea of who they were, were saying that first Donald Trump was, you know, blew up at Netanyahu and screamed at him for trying to wreck the ceasefire. And then last night we were told Donald Trump told Netanyahu not to respond. And Netanyahu said he wouldn't respond. Of course they were going to respond. And let's just say that those were authentic, that it was true that Donald Trump was doing that, that he took that attitude to Netanyahu, that he's fed up with Netanyahu, that he recognizes how unpopular he is in the United States and what a pariah state Israel's becoming. And let's just say he did tell Netanyahu, do not respond. We don't need another escalation. It's hurting me politically, it's hurting the economy. To keep this war going, I need it to end. Well, what does Donald Trump do to stop Netanyahu or punish Netanyahu after he openly defies him? And after Donald Trump knows that Israel's intelligence services are spying on him, it appears that he has done nothing. We would know if he had done something because he would suspend weapons, he would suspend loan guarantees, he would say something publicly. Remember, Biden never said anything publicly either. And look at what happened to him and to Kamala Harris. So this just makes Trump look weak in the face of Israel. The last president, really. Well, the last two presidents who really took Israel down a notch were, first, George H.W. bush. When Netanyahu's mentor, Yitzhak Shamir, was prime minister, Netanyahu suspended loan guarantee. I mean, sorry, George H.W. bush suspended loan guarantees to Israel and forced Shamir to pull back on authorizing illegal settlements. This was right at the beginning of the Madrid process, moving towards a supposed Palestinian state. How was George H.W. bush able to do that? Well, one way he was able to do that was his control over the deep state. He was the CIA director for decades. Many of the people at high levels in the intelligence services and other branches of US Foreign policy were owed him for him helping them in their careers. And so he was calling in favors or he could actually harm their careers. Bill Clinton then threatened Netanyahu when he came in with further suspensions. I mean, Bill Clinton was more of a. You know, he was a more pro Israel president than George H.W. bush, but he basically toppled Netanyahu or he undermined Netanyahu by forcing him into an agreement to hand over parts of the occupied city of Hebron to Palestinian Authority control. And this weakened Netanyahu before his base. So Trump has a precedent. There's a historic precedent for him to be able to undermine and take down Netanyahu. And it wouldn't take a lot, but he won't do it. He's too weak. He's stuck in a dark tunnel, and he has too many forces holding him back from the deal that I think he needs to move out of. The worst crisis of his presidency. So the Israelis still have, they've asserted control over Trump.

[Jimmy Dore]

So. Well, I mean, you know, Trump is a, you know, famous bully. So what? Wow. So they, what's your. I mean, I know what I think and I know what people who watch this show think. They think that he's compromised. I think it's either him or his kids or it's not just the money that Adel, that Miriam Adelson gave him. Because I know the story about him saying immediately after that meeting to Charlie Kirk that he's going to screw her over. So he doesn't have a problem with screwing people over. He screwed over everybody who supported him in his run up to the election and now he's with the people who hated him. So what do you think it is that, what do you think the leverage is that Netanyahu has on him?

[Max Blumenthal]

I mean, I think it is political and financial leverage. And it's not just on him. It's all of maga. Like, what is MAGA now? There's no grassroots component to it and the backbone of MAGA is the Zionist movement. Like the, the Likudnik oriented Zionist elite play such an important role in maga. They're paying the key influencers. Salem Media, all so much. So many of the key MAGA influencers are on Salem. I don't know if Dan Bongino is on Salem, but Salem is actually registered as an Israeli, as a federally registered foreign agent of Israel. Its chief strategy officer is Trump's former chief of staff, Brad Parscale. He's the top lobbyist for Israel in the United States. They're paying all these influencers and they're using crypto and third parties to conceal the direct payments from Israel. But it's pretty obvious who's getting it. These are key voices of maga. I mean, they've got Sebastian Gorka, obvious Israeli asset, filling the role of Joe Kent, who is ousted. Tulsi Gabbard, ousted. Barry Weiss is running cbs. She is a self described Zionist fanatic who bought cbs. David Ellison. David Ellison is an Israel first billionaire who actually was working with Israeli intelligence before he was even a household name, buying up all of these networks, cbs, cnn, through Skydance, to buy Paramount. He was working with Israeli intelligence to undermine Palestine activism in the United States. His father, Larry Ellison, who owns Oracle, which is building so many data centers around the US and getting so much federal money to do it. Larry Ellison's a close friend of Netanyahu. And Larry and the Ellisons are working, they worked to buy TikTok with Andreessen Horowitz, Mark Andreessen and Ben Horowitz, who are two extreme Zionist activists who run an investment firm that put up the money for that purchase. I could go on and on, but the backbone of maga, then the Adelsons, I mean, they've kicked in hundreds of millions of dollars to Trump's campaigns. Trump doesn't want to dip into his own money. The Trump sons are being paid now. They're on the Israeli payroll in various ways. They run an Israeli drone company which is going public, which is going public through a company owned by Eric Trump. Don Jr. And Lara Trump are own a 30% stake in Salem Media, which is and is registered, a federally registered Israeli foreign agent. It just goes on and on. So if Trump actually defies the Israelis and specifically Netanyahu, and you know, the Likud power structure that rules Israel, that's pretty much a wrap on maga. And then you have all these senators who are essentially Israeli plants, like Ted Cruz, whose office is. It's literally run by an Israeli operative named Omri Sarin. He runs Ted Cruz's office. Tom Cotton. Tom Cotton is another Adelson plant. You start losing these votes in the Senate, you're not able to pass things, and then Donald Trump just loses his grip. And you can see these figures came out and immediately attacked Trump for the first time when he started to edge towards some kind of deal. So Israel has enormous amounts of leverage over Donald Trump. And it's all Donald Trump's fault. He didn't have to get invested with all these people. He didn't have to bank on taking over the media through Israel first billionaires he could have. He didn't have to also embrace Jeffrey Epstein in the way that he did. But these are all choices that he's made throughout his life. And it's led him to this, this moment. It really led to this moment in February, when Netanyahu came to Washington. You could see all the highways were shut down. It was like, more intense than Madison Square Garden is tonight for Trump. The security atmosphere. And Netanyahu marches into the White House, goes into the Situation Room, and sits at the head of the table. This is all confirmed. Like the Washington Post reported this. He sits at the head of the table. Trump sits to the side. He brings in the Mossad director, David Barnea on a, like a secure video stream. And they tell Trump what is going to happen. They give Trump his marching orders. You are going to work with us to stage a series of decapitation strikes on Iranian leadership, and then we're just going to win the war in four days, and it's going to be like Venezuela and then some Delsey Rodriguez character is going to take over in Iran, and the Iranian people are going to rise up and you're going to be a hero. And Trump said, okay, sounds like a plan. And everyone in the room, all the principals, Marco Rubio, John Ratcliffe, the CIA director, Rubio runs like the NSC and State Department and the Pentagon joint chiefs were already opposed to this plan. They were grumbling and saying, this is bullshit. This is complete bullshit, like, none of it's going to work. But none of them stood up to Trump, and Trump never will stand up to his Israeli managers. So here he is at this turning point, a really pivotal point in his presidency, and it really feels like he's too weak to avoid a third stage of this war, which is obviously destroying the global economy, causing bankruptcies among American farmers, hurting American workers massively, and it's terrible for Iranians, but it's also tearing Donald Trump's presidency apart. And it's reduced MAGA to just this kind of artificial Israeli Zionist astroturf pseudo movement.

[Jimmy Dore]

You know, the thing that is confounding to me the most is, and I was just on Tucker's show last week, and he brought this up, too, that, you know, his first term, he resisted starting new wars, and then he was made a victim of lawfare. So they came at the establishment, came at him, and they bankrupted him or came close to bankrupting him, and they were going to put him in jail for different lawsuits and all. And he stood up to it. Right? And at any point, if he would have just indicated to the establishment that he was going to be this kind of a president, they would have stopped that, don't you think? But so why would he wait until he actually won to flip? Or did he flip before the election, do you think? I mean, because he definitely flipped in all the signs.

[Max Blumenthal]

I mean, he's a veteran con artist, and all the signs were there that he would be fanatically pro Zionist and serve Adelson's agenda. He was doing events with where he's boasting about his close relationship with Miriam Adelson. During the 2024 campaign, he was catering to the Likudnik lobby very openly. He had already the record of shredding the Iran deal during his first term, and he did that because the Adelsons basically bribed him to do so, and he enthusiastically did it. But, you know, he would have also been happy to make a new Iran deal if the Adelsons hadn't bribed him and gained all this leverage. There are so many other Israel first funders of the Trump administration that we knew about. So when Donald Trump went to Dearborn, which is bastion of Arab American voters outside Detroit and Michigan, he went there towards the end of his campaign and he said, we're going to make peace. We're going to have a deal in Gaza, like to end the, to end the Gaza genocide. You can count on it. Kamala Harris hadn't even gone there. No one had even gone there. So it was understandable. And then people were desperate after watching children getting slaughtered night after night. And we saw with how the Biden, Kamala administration behaved. They never put Netanyahu in his place. They kept the weapons flowing. They were just completely, they were absolutely responsible for the genocide. And they, and, you know, a lot of people, including myself, wanted them to be punished so we could kind of set a red line for the Democrats and say, you know, you have, there's a, there's a segment of your base that's just not going to vote for you if you keep doing this. That needs to be established. But I never had this belief that Donald Trump was going to somehow be better on the issue. He did get the ceasefire, by the way, and he's also failed to enforce it there, Failed to force Israel to allow humanitarian aid in, failed to implement rebuilding, and the genocide continues. There are strikes in Gaza almost every day now, killing three civilians, 10 civilians. People are being bombed in their tents and they're living in tents where they're being infested with rats. And the conditions there are horrible. There was never any part of the ceasefire, by the way, that Donald Trump organized or, or, you know, Witkoff and Kushner organized for Gaza that called on Hamas to give up its weapons. And yet Hamas leadership is being assassinated week after week by Israel. No retaliation from Hamas, but that's a complete violation of the ceasefire. And what Trump did is he set up this board of peace to create the facade of a mechanism to enforce a cease fire and bring prosperity back to Gaza. And they rolled out all of these plans to make Gaza prosperous and to bring Larry Ellison's data centers into Gaza and get, you know, the population working as a kind of like AI surf class. And they would live in these new developments that would be like smart cities. And they'd all, you know, Tony Blair would come in and, you know, they'd, they'd all be like, kind of like in a Techno, techno fascist futurist experiment. I mean, it was horrible. The plant that they were rolling out these plans and, you know, anyone who saw the kind of techno fascist blueprint during COVID would have recognized how this built off of the kind of hyper surveilled smart cities that were rolled out through the World Economic Forum during the COVID era. It looked horrible, but they were at least planning to keep a large portion of Gaza's population in Gaza and get people out of their tents, provide them with some form of like, medical clinics and housing, or allow them to have that. And what has happened since then? The Board of Peace had a meeting where, you know, Javier Malay and Giano Infant Infante, Giorgio Infante, the head of FIFA, whatever his name is, this slime bag and various other global slime bags got together and paid a billion dollars basically to Trump Incorporated, and they've done absolutely nothing for Gaza. There's been no rebuilding. The humanitarian aid situation's horrible. Nobody's been moved out of their tents. Israel's still bombing them. Israel controls 60% of Gaza, so they've been pushed into 40% of where they lived before. And you get killed if you cross the yellow line. It's like, it's like a Hunger Games. And there's. There's still a plan to ethnically cleanse the place. So Jared Kushner and Trump and the Board of Peace, it was just a front for steal, for corruption, taking money behind the guise of peace. And one of their key administrators, who's like a Bulgarian politician, just testified before the UN and said everything that I've said, that the Board of Peace has literally done nothing. So this really is the essence of the Trump administration. What it's really about for Trump, it's not about ideology, it's about money. It's about corruption. If he can monetize a war, then that war works out for him. And he's been able to monetize the Iran war as well through all of the insider trading we've seen, as well as the drone deals that his sons are getting through Israeli companies. Those drones have been tested in Iran. They're also, they're also. The Trump sons have made deals with Israeli companies to test anti drone technology against Iranian drones in this war. So it's a good war for Trump, it's a bad war for everyone else. And if Trump decides to make a deal because he wants to lose less seats in the midterms, for example, then his Israeli managers will. They're not going to agree to his request for time off.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, he's in a real pickle because of course, we know that Benjamin Netanyahu is going to sabotage any peace deal. And if Trump doesn't get a peace deal, we're just about burned through all the reserve oil that we have in the United States. And some people are predicting gas prices that could go up to potentially $10 a gallon. We already know that the farmers are all screwed, that 70% of them say they don't have the necessary fertilizer. So it's a really, an economic catastrophe is just around the corner. I don't think I'm overstating that. So it's just going to go from bad. So Trump is not going to. He's in a real corner here. And there's no way that Netanyahu is going to allow a peace deal, because as soon as he does, he goes to prison. And Trump has to know that. If I know that. And so what do you think? So his plan is to just let the whole thing go to hell and the gas prices to skyrocket, the food prices are going to skyrocket. I mean, he, he just doesn't know what to do. Is that you think or what? What do you think?

[Max Blumenthal]

Yeah, and he's been asked about it, and he says, I don't care. You know, that's not a factor in my decision making about this war. He wants to seem really principled. But why? Like, no one supports the war. His base doesn't support it. I mean, there's, as a wing, you know, the Fox boomers who just watch Fox News, like, they think Dan Bongino's, like, telling them the truth and has some credibility. I don't know how there are so many of them, but there still aren't that many of them. But, you know, the American public never supported this war, and now it's deeply unpopular. So why is he saying that? I think part of the issue is that he's sort of delusional and he's kept in an information bubble by his handlers who keep telling them that he's winning. I mean, only last week, Donald Trump said he destroyed the Iranian navy, that he had totally destroyed the Iranian navy, and that Iran only had 20% of its ballistic missile stocks left. Well, that's obviously not true based on Iran's response to the attack in Beirut, and based on the testimony of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of the Pentagon, Dan Kaine, who said that he was being questioned by Senator Dick Durbin, Illinois last month. And Durbin said to him, you know, why is it that with our military, which now has a proposed $1.5 trillion budget, you're not able to defeat Iran or achieve any military objective. And he said, well, sir, I mean, they still have these, these drones and we can't open the Strait of Hormuz with the possibility that their drones could hit our ships or other. They have small boats. It's just like Iran has used asymmetrical warfare and a military with a minuscule budget compared to that of the US to checkmate the US Strategically in the Strait of Hormuz, which is now. And so they've established an economic choke point and they're not even done yet. After Beirut was attacked and Iran responded, they put another card down on the table. They announced that working with their allies in Yemen, Ansar Allah, which control most of the country and are a key component of the so called Axis of Resistance, which resists Israel and US Empire, they will not allow Israeli shipping through the Bab El Mandeb, which is the mouth of the Red Sea, which is another very important global shipping route. So just Israeli shipping is not allowed there, is not. Will not be allowed through there, which effectively closes off the Eilat port in southern Israel. Eilat is an important port and place of. For Israeli vacationers and also for economic activity on the Red Sea. There are beaches there. It's not far from Egypt. But they could do more. They could close the Baba Mandev off to all shipping, and this would intensify and deepen the global economic crisis. And it would also, you know, hurt key US Arab allies like Egypt, which depend on shipping through the Red Sea for so much income. I mean, it would really. The catastrophe can get so much worse, and it will get worse if the US decides to green light and participate in a third round of warfare with Iran. Iran has a lot more cards to lay on the table. Trump does not have the cards.

[Jimmy Dore]

Zero cards. None. All right, well, I do. You got to go. I know you've. I'll let you go. Max. I appreciate you taking time. I know you have a. I know you have a busy schedule, my friend and I always appreciate you accommodating our schedule. Your great insight as always, great friend to the show. We always appreciate your time. Thank you for coming on, Max.

[Max Blumenthal]

Thank you, judge.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay. All right, buddy. See you next time.

[Max Blumenthal]

Peace.

[Jimmy Dore]

Over to Steph.

[Steph]

Okay, both dogs are in studio. That is not code for anything. They are. Oh, my goodness. And Benji's already talking to Misha. He wants some camera time. Benji, come here. Oh, yeah. This is going to be trouble. Sorry about that. All right. You're so easy going. Now Betsy's in Benji's bed. All right, let's see here. Come here.

[Mark Caputo]

Come here.

[Jimmy Dore]

Come here.

[Steph]

Try this for a minute, shall we? Dog. I will say this. I will say this. All right. So let's see where we left off. I know Kim Iverson had raided the stream. That's great. Thank you so much, Kim. All right. I got that. Kim Raised. All right. I'm almost there. Let's see. There we go. All right. Is anyone part of this conversation who wasn't knifed in the crotch for the glory of the Abrahamic religion in the day they were born? Future intact.

[Jimmy Dore]

Coming back.

[Steph]

All right, next. This $5 donation is to help find a cure for. Badge. Badge. Badge. No. Cease. I hope they find a cure for Dan. I don't. I don't think they're going to. I don't think they are. All right. Let's see here. Jimmy. Damn well better remember that. It's the anniversary today of the USS Liberty incident. I got hazardous duty pay in 1973, partly because the USS Liberty was attacked by Israel in 1967. Thank you for the reminder. Really appreciate it. Active Guardian. Yeah, you can let her go outside. True Sayer or True Seer, rather. Another badge of honor for Jimmy. That's right. I like. I like Jimmy before he was born. That was funny. I liked Jimmy before he even was born. That was funny. Unknown client 51. We stand for you, Jimmy. That's what bad hombre says. Jimmy. If I have an. Jimmy.

[Kurt Metzger]

If.

[Steph]

If have a iPhone. Think if you have an iPhone. Listen to this. Put your phone in lockdown mode. It makes it hard to hack. Did you ever know that? Lockdown mode. I don't even know what lockdown mode is. My dog needs to be in lockdown mode. Talk to them. It's. That's what I say.

[Jimmy Dore]

It's.

[Steph]

Question. Question. I got a question. All right. Can you go? Okay. Misha. Come on through. Misha. All right, let's see the next one. I know. This is. This is what it's like, you know? Ladies and gentlemen, Jimmy 179 for tickets. No, no, Jason. No. You've got to go to our website. Jimmy.Dore.com. find the links to the tour venues. You want to go straight through here because there are all these other scalpers and it's always kind of crazy when you don't do that. Active Guardian. Jimmy. Spending way too much time on celebrity gossip and drama. That made me laugh. Active Guardian.

[Kurt Metzger]

What Celebrity Gossip. Did I miss it?

[Steph]

Yeah. No. He was responding or active Guardian was responding to our Bongino segment. I'm like, you know, he was the deputy director of the FBI.

[Kurt Metzger]

Is he not being funny? It sounds like he's being funny.

[Steph]

That's what I thought.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right?

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. It comes off as being funny.

[Steph]

Has to be funny. Bon Gaina. Or is it. Bonjana says Jimmy is musing a chromosome because he has an extra. You see Music. I know the science, you know, that was just to all that science that he had. Come on, Benji.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's amazing. With someone that's not that. That much smarter than a person with a developmental disability forgets how to diagnose it. That's my favorite. Oh, you missed the chromosome. That's the number one midwinter way to screw up. What down syndrome is.

[Steph]

You know the idea that he's a grown up and like doubled down multiple times about Jimmy's genitalia.

[Kurt Metzger]

You know, this guy's an idiot. He's like a. He's like an organ grinder monkey or something like. And he always was. He was never the real deal.

[Sean Ryan]

Ever.

[Kurt Metzger]

And a good way to tell was he would wear a T shirt with like the Constitution on it or some dumb like, you know, the way a con man does.

[Steph]

Uhuh. Well, I'll tell you.

[Kurt Metzger]

A big fat American flag. Die. Don't buy nothing from a guy wearing that, you know?

[Steph]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

Don't get Don K. They're all Don King. All of them.

[Steph]

All right, here we go. Running for office all. All over the country. Dan sounds like Valentina Gomez. Roger Meadows. I used to prank call people with soundboards when I was younger. Bongino sounds like the people that used to scream at my soundboards. Shekel Master and Shekel Master. I think you sent that in a couple times. I used to prank call people with soundboards when I was younger. Bonino sounds like the people that I used to scream that used to scream at my soundboards. It's crazy how unhinged he sounded.

[Kurt Metzger]

Bongino sounds like a Jerky Boys victim.

[Steph]

Completely like.

[Mark Caputo]

He just.

[Steph]

It was so crazy.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. You could cut his phone call in with the jerky boys and I bet it would be seamless.

[Steph]

Right?

[Kurt Metzger]

I might do that actually.

[Steph]

Munchy. Thank you, Munchie. Very generous. Much appreciated. Boncino leaves Admin. Like Bannon did in the first term to serve Epstein class politics slop.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, Jake.

[Kurt Metzger]

He's part of like. Look, the media part is such a big part of it. Like, you know, you talk about Iran and all this Warshit. Do not think that every. The stupid movie stuff and TV stuff and all that minor shit. The CIA is all up in that, too. It's all connected all the time. So never doubt that someone like Bongino is some kind of operative out of the gate. Who. That's why his actions make no sense, okay? Where he's like. He doesn't answer a question, then loses his mind. That's his job to do that. It's almost as if he were a human bot.

[Steph]

Let me ask you. Once, you know, they say once you're a spook, you're always a spooky. What do you say?

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, I don't know. I've never been a spook, so. I don't know. I haven't been. I haven't. I've never been.

[Steph]

You've never been?

[Kurt Metzger]

You've never even been?

[Steph]

But they say that, you know, like, if you were CIA, you know, you're always going to be CIA. There's no way out.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, I. I assume that. How do I know? Some people seem like. Like the guy Ray. What's his name?

[Steph]

With Epps, Govern.

[Kurt Metzger]

Ray Epps. McGovern. You know, Pepe Escobar, the Iran thing. He doesn't seem like he's part of the operation still.

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, you mean Larry.

[Kurt Metzger]

I always wonder why there's like. Usually there's only like one or two people who are allowed to tell the truth, and they're designated as that. And you better not try to get in that business, too, you know.

[Steph]

Right. Having a. I'm having a territorial fight with my dog right now. He's winning.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, I know how she is, that dog. I know exactly how she gets.

[Steph]

Trump is telling us. Systemic problem. Loyalty to billionaires. Not US. Constitution. Not just Trump. All of Congress. All of Congress. They're not taking an oath to the Constitution or to the citizens of America. They've taken an oath to another country.

[Kurt Metzger]

Okay, there's.

[Steph]

My God, for the mic with my dog.

[Kurt Metzger]

I forget what they're called. Not like primary users. They're supposedly like 10. 10 people that get to see all the intel and make the big picture out of it.

[Steph]

Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

And they're called something. Users. Main users. Well, I.

[Dan Bongino]

Whatever.

[Kurt Metzger]

I don't care. I hate them, whoever they are. But the fact that that exists, those NSA guys on Danny Jones telling him about this, and it's supposed to be like one of these cool NSA guys telling you inside stuff, but him mentioning that, there is no way he meant for me to take it the way I took it. But he basically is telling same thing as in tragedy and hope. The Top Secret clearance, the President doesn't have that because the President's only there for four to eight years. So there are all these clearances above the pre. There's eight, as a matter of fact, above the President. So right there, that means your democracy is fake. That's exactly what that means. It doesn't mean anything else but that your democracy is fucking fake because you don't vote for that. So that's how you know all this like to do. And whatever. Whatever it is, and whatever real voting happens, you're not a part of it. And it's like behind the scenes. So that's why you see all this weird skullduggery with Iran, who just got nukes. Now they have to Weekend at Bernie's fake it for I don't know how long. It's trickling out, though.

[Steph]

Yeah. What's your tobacco you're smoking?

[Kurt Metzger]

None. I just put it so I can look like I'm up.

[Mark Caputo]

I know I would never smoke this pipe.

[Steph]

It just. It's perfect. Here we go. Doing a better job than Randy Fine is setting the bar so low a cripple in a wheelchair can roll right over it. P.W. walker. Wow, that'd be coming in hard.

[Kurt Metzger]

Randy Fine called for more of those to be made in Gaza recently.

[Steph]

Gringo lingo. Thank you so much. Or that's gringo ling. Thank you. Gringoling.

[Kurt Metzger]

You know what? I like this background because it's like my boy Dan Bongino has my back in case I get any trouble. What'd you say to my man? Look at him. Right over my shoulder, ready to rock.

[Jimmy Dore]

All right, come to me. So we didn't. We kind of covered this with Max, but I think I want to cover a little bit more. So this is kind of.

[Steph]

But you said Max and Max. Oh, you wanted to cover it with Max.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, we kind of covered it. We talked a lot about it, but. Because these two stories, the Israeli spying and this new Iran bombing Israel are connected. But. So I just want to go over this. If you haven't heard, Iran bombed Israel, which is. Which is, in a sense, nice to see. And they're doing it because Israel won't stop bombing Lebanon. And Netanyahu was bombing Lebanon because he fears that Trump is actually going to have a peace deal with Iran negotiated through Pakistan, and that's why he was spying on him. And he found that out because he's not a part of that. Netanyahu is not a part of those talks. With Iran via Pakistan. He's afraid that there's going to be a peace deal. And if the peace deal happens, Netanyahu goes to prison. Everyone knows this. And so Netanyahu bombed Lebanon again. I forgot to ask Max about Lebanon being okay with this. By the way, the government, remember Morandi told me that. Anyway, so this is what happened. So Iran is making it clear that if Israel doesn't stop bombing Lebanon and slaughtering the people in Gaza, they're going to keep bombing Israel. And so that's what happened. Israel fired missiles towards northern Israel on Sunday after warning that Israel must stop its attacks on Lebanon or face more crushing and regretful blows. The Israeli military said it had detected missiles launched from Iran and activated air defense systems to intercept them. So they're saying that they did. They did not intercept them.

[Kurt Metzger]

I thought they intercepted them. That's what Israel said I saw today.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, because that's what they said. It's just.

[Kurt Metzger]

Did they intercept him with their fucking faces?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah, but they didn't. Iran's Revolutionary Guard tied the attack directly to Israel's assault on Lebanon, including strikes in Beirut southern suburbs. We had previously warned that if the crimes in the Dahia era of Beirut expand, we will attack targets in the occupied territories. Iran's Military Central Command said Israel's latest attack on Beirut's southern suburbs had crossed all red lines and demanded a halt to its assault on Lebanon. General Ali Abuladi, head of Karam El Anabiya Command, said Israel must stop attacking southern Lebanon and Beirut suburbs. As Israeli air defenses reported intercepting missile salvos didn't do it. The Israeli army must stop its attacks on southern Lebanon in the suburbs, and if it expands its attacks to that region or response to to Iran's action, it will face more devastating and regrettable blows. US President Donald Trump said Israel's strike on Beirut had damaged efforts to reach a ceasefire deal with Iran after Tehran fired missiles towards Israel for the first time since the April truce. Trump's right about that.

[Kurt Metzger]

So the only one who didn't violate the ceasefire was Iran? To be clear.

[Jimmy Dore]

The only one, yes. So Trump told Fox News that he expected an agreement could be signed on Monday or Tuesday or Wednesday, and now this takes place. So that's why this took place, because Trump was actually close to signing a peace deal. He said he was not happy about Israel's attack on Beirut earlier on Sunday and added that the strike had not been coordinated with Washington. No, of course not. Trump also said Iran's missile fire is certainly not going to help negotiations.

[Steph]

Well,

[Kurt Metzger]

well, that won't help. And you know what else won't help? The retaliation. Is the president even a real job?

[Jimmy Dore]

As Israel's widening attack on Lebanon again threatened to drag the region into the broader war. And Israeli officials said any Iranian attack on Israeli territory would trigger retaliation and could give Israel an opportunity to renew the campaign. The warning came as Washington and Tehran remained deadlocked over a deal to end the war Trump launched in February with US Airstrikes alongside Israel. Trump has repeatedly threatened to resume the bombing campaign unless Iran agrees to a deal soon. Why do you think he hasn't resumed the bombing campaign? Because he holds no cards. Because he really wants this to end. Because the oil reserves that we're using right now in the United States are just about used up. And as soon as that happens, oil, gas prices will spike again. Some people are predicting $10 a gallon gas. 70% of the farmers in America say they don't have the fertilizer. They've got to grow crops for the winter. We need to have the Strait of Hormuz opened, and we need to have oil flowing, and we need. So that's why

[Kurt Metzger]

Trump.

[Jimmy Dore]

Trump doesn't resume bombing because he wants to end this. Guess why Israel doesn't want this ended? Because as soon as they do, Netanyahu goes to prison. And that's why they keep doing this.

[Kurt Metzger]

So we're look, look at his exact words, though. I don't think he's threatening to bomb.

[Jimmy Dore]

He says, we're very close to a deal or I'm going to blow the hell out of them.

[Kurt Metzger]

He then added, wait, that came out wrong.

[Jimmy Dore]

Wait, sorry.

[Kurt Metzger]

No. So he didn't say, that came out wrong. He's going to have to go fellate both of them now.

[Jimmy Dore]

Drop site news says President Trump tells Barack Ravin he hopes Israel will not retaliate following Iran's missile strikes. The Iranian strikes didn't hurt anybody. Hopefully, Israel is not going to retaliate if Bibi strikes them back. It's just going to keep going like the last 47 years or the last 3,000 years. Yeah, you dummy. That's why you shouldn't have started this war with Iran and you should have told Netanyahu to F off.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, he can't because he got them pictures.

[Jimmy Dore]

We are very close to a final deal with Iran. It's going to be a good deal. I don't want to blow it up because of what's happening now. Well, that's exactly what Netanyahu want. Trump knows all this, so he really. And Trump doesn't have any cards to play because in some way he's controlled by Israel. Trump is. I don't doesn't matter why. Doesn't matter if it's because of Epstein files or. Or the money or all the control that Israel has over the Congress. It doesn't matter why it is. But they have control over Trump and so Trump is. There's no way getting so Trump has excluded Netanyahu and Israel from the peace negotiations that are happening through Pakistan. And that's why Netanyahu spied on Trump. That's how he knew they were close to a deal, which is why he bombed Beir. You said you follow this. I'm going to call Bibi right now and tell him not to retaliate. Each of them had their fun. Israel had its strike and Iran had its strike. We don't need another one. Too late. Iran has holds all the cards.

[Kurt Metzger]

Why don't you have your dipshit son in law go negotiate.

[Jimmy Dore]

The IDF tweeted this out. The Israeli air force struck military targets belonging to the Iranian terror regime in western and central Iran a short while ago.

[Kurt Metzger]

Right after Trump said that.

[Jimmy Dore]

Right after Trump said that. And Max Blumenthal tweets out Trump's manager rejected his request for time off.

[Kurt Metzger]

Max is really nails it sometimes only

[Jimmy Dore]

so let's just let you know this is great by Trita Parsi. He says the magnitude of what just happened may take some time to sink in. This is the first time Iran has struck Israel after Israel struck another country's territory. Meaning not that they were attacked, but Israel attacked Lebanon. So now Iran is attacking Israel because of that. Not because they attacked Iran, but because they attacked Lebanon. This means that the battle lines have been moved. Iran's deterrence had already been restored in the sense that Israel knew that any strike on it would be responded to. But now Iran has proven that it will also respond to Israeli strikes on Lebanon. This is the first time in decades that a regional power has the means, capacity and willingness to put hard power against Israeli military maneuvers or aggression against a third party. That's why this is a big deal.

[Kurt Metzger]

Does this mean, Jimmy, that Russia and China said, hey, you did your best, go for it.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes, I'm get. Yes. China and Russia want Iran to remain a superpower in the Middle East.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yep.

[Jimmy Dore]

And they weren't until this war and now they are.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, now Russia and China have an Israel great job. And that Israel that Russia and China has has nukes. Great job everyone.

[Jimmy Dore]

So it will soon become clear that when Israel chose to Attack Dahia yesterday, it was not only working to shatter negotiations between Trump and Iran, it was also consciously instigating an escalation that would inevitably place the US Regional bases under Iranian fire. What an ally.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

So they're trying to make World War 3. So they're trying to get Iran to bomb our bases again in the Gulf. So they're trying to escalate and they want the war. So do you understand how Israel is a cancer?

[Kurt Metzger]

You understand how much better Russia is than Israel and how much better of a guy Putin is than Bibi Netanyahu? And I don't even think Putin's a good guy, but he's certainly a more restrained, insane person.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes, he's.

[Kurt Metzger]

And they're way less. You don't see Russia driving bulldozers into Ukraine. I ain't seen that yet.

[Jimmy Dore]

He's actually a rational actor. Right, right. So here is Larry Johnson, friend of the show, former CIA analyst, and here's what he has to say about this.

[Larry Johnson]

But this particular claim that they, Israel was now specifically targeting people in and around Trump who are involved in the negotiation.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he's saying, he's talking about. I played this earlier, but I'll play it again. He's talking about that Israel is targeting the negotiators. Meaning targeting. Meaning for spying on them. Targeting them. The people who are negotiating the peace deal with Iran through Pakistan. They're specifically targeting them because they're cut out of these negotiations and they don't want a peace deal. Okay.

[Larry Johnson]

But this particular claim that Israel was now specifically targeting people in and around Trump who are involved in the negotiations with Pakistan because Israel didn't. Wasn't being briefed. They wanted to know what the hell's going on because they were concerned that Trump was going to cut a deal. And in fact, that's why Bibi Netanyahu bombed Beirut yesterday, in order to destroy this prospect for a negotiated settlement because it's going to leave them out in the dark and it's going to change the face of West Asia, Middle east, the Levant. Pick your term.

[Jimmy Dore]

So that's why this is all happening. Okay, so Iran says it has ended its military operations against Israel after the worst escalation of hostilities since the ceasefire came into effect in April. Tehran has warned of harsher attacks if Israel continues strikes against Lebanon. Al Jazeera's Judy Eager reports. Let's listen.

[Max Blumenthal]

A wave of Iranian missiles fired towards

[Jimmy Dore]

Israel,

[Max Blumenthal]

testing an already fragile ceasefire.

[Jimmy Dore]

By the way, they're launching these missiles from missile sites that Trump allegedly said he had already Wiped out? Obviously, they're not wiped out because they're launching attacks on Israel from those same places.

[Kurt Metzger]

Ok, now are we sure Israel is not having a laundry fire?

[Jimmy Dore]

Tehran says the attacks are a direct

[Max Blumenthal]

response to Israel's ongoing military assault on Lebanon, a campaign it accuses the US of supporting.

[Jimmy Dore]

The US Is directly responsible for.

[Ben Owens]

They are party to the ceasefire negotiations.

[Jimmy Dore]

Therefore, any event or any act in violation of the ceasefire, be it through

[Ben Owens]

the interception of vessels, the targeting of

[Jimmy Dore]

southern Lebanon by Israel, or any other event, will cause the United States to be directly responsible for the escalation in the region. Israel launched a wave of retaliatory strikes.

[Max Blumenthal]

Initial attacks targeted areas including the capital,

[Steph]

Tehran, Tabriz, and Isfahan.

[Jimmy Dore]

It also hit a petrochemical complex in Mashhar. Yesterday, the Iranian terror regime violated the ceasefire. After two months, it opened fire and launched toward Israel. We attacked the petrochemical complex in Mashhar in southwestern Iran. In this complex, materials and components essential to the regime's missile program were produced. In response, Iran struck a petrochemical facility in Haifa.

[Steph]

It's also targeted two Israeli air bases. But many of the interceptions were above the occupied west bank over Palestinian homes.

[Max Blumenthal]

The escalation is pulling in other regional actors.

[Aaron Baker]

The Yemeni armed forces affirm the first.

[Jimmy Dore]

We declare a complete and total ban on Israeli maritime navigation in the Red

[Aaron Baker]

Sea, and we consider all enemy movements to be legitimate military targets for our armed forces. From the moment that this statement is

[Steph]

issued,

[Jimmy Dore]

US President Donald Trump told Israel

[Max Blumenthal]

and Iran to immediately stop attacking each

[Steph]

other, insisting a diplomatic solution is still viable.

[Max Blumenthal]

Julie Daga, Al Jazeera Is Trump like a substitute teacher?

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes. He sounds like a substitute teacher now. Cut it out, class.

[Kurt Metzger]

And I told him, don't do it. And then what are you going to do? A new ballroom.

[Jimmy Dore]

So Mario Nefal has a great breakdown. He says Channel 12 with full backstory on. Last night, Trump called Netanyahu twice. The first call came after Iran's initial missile launches. Trump warned against escalation, said Israel had no US Approval for broader action. Netanyahu argued Iran violated Israel's sovereignty and struck anyway. After Iran's final barrage, Tehran contacted Washington directly and signaled readiness for a ceasefire. Israel began preparing a third, larger strike. Trump called Netanyahu again. You did what you did. Now hold your fire. We are heading toward an agreement. Netanyahu returned to the command bunker and canceled the planned attack with aircraft already prepared to launch. Five regional governments apparently also called Trump, asking him to restrain Israel. I'm going to guess those five governments are all Gulf States like Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, they'd like their water

[Kurt Metzger]

desalinization plans to probably stay is my guess.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. The pattern is now established. Each cycle ends with Washington holding the line. But each cycle also starts with Israel deciding it doesn't need permission to break the ceasefire.

[Kurt Metzger]

What do you mean? And ending with that they decided that. Well, like, well, in my childhood I remember them openly deciding that they've decided that.

[Jimmy Dore]

So Israel is escalating in Lebanon while stopping attacks on Iran. Israel airstrikes targeted multiple areas across southern Lebanon, including Bura Al Shamali. I can't name all those names. And Israel off all official told Channel 12 that Israel stopped its attack on Iran at Trump's request. The same official says attacks on southern Lebanon will continue with full force. Israel also threatened to strike Beirut's southern suburbs again if attacks on Israel towns continue. So here's, here's what, so here's the new doctrine that Iran has now because of this, let's listen to Larry Johnson again.

[Max Blumenthal]

Our friend and colleague Alistair Crook says the Iranian attitude in a nutshell is

[Jimmy Dore]

ceasefire for all or ceasefire for none.

[Max Blumenthal]

Does anybody think Trump can restrain Netanyahu?

[Larry Johnson]

Yeah, well, actually, yes. That's sort of what the Pakistanis are betting on, that Trump will come to his senses. Robert Barnes told me yesterday, we were on a panel discussion, so he told others as well, but that this pollster, Richard Barris, who's a very well respected and competent pollster, was actually called to the White House this last week and delivered Trump and Co. The bad news. That, and you know, to. He said basically the. Trump is viewed as Bibi's prison girlfriend. That he's, he is, he is.

[Jimmy Dore]

Only you could come up with that. Larry, go ahead, please. Yeah, Trump is viewed as, as Bibi Netanyahu's prison bitch.

[Kurt Metzger]

I mean, that's how I look at it.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's how we've all, that's how everybody looks at it.

[Larry Johnson]

Well, that, you know, Trump is just, he's at the beck and call of, of Israel and that it is killing the Republicans in the polls, killing them. Now, we have also discussed previously that, you know, from the time when, you know, Pepe and I got the heads up that there was this, that Iran had, you know, threatened that, hey, all this attack and pressure continues against us. We're going to detonate a test nuke to show you what we've got. Since that, that point that we had heard that we noticed a complete change in Trump's rhetoric. How he talked about is Iran not about how he talked about Israel, but he changed how he was talking about Iran. And we've seen that even in the last 24 hours, he's not coming out condemning Iran and siding with Israel. He's taken sort of a middle ground. And so I think there is some real substance to this or real depth. They do believe they may be close to a deal. And even his language that the blockade will remain in place until the deal is agreed on. Okay, so this entire dust up in the war yesterday was predicated upon what Iran had said previously, that any attack on the Beirut suburbs, on Beirut or Dahya, would result in retaliation by Iran. Iran has announced a new doctrine. It is. It's a doctrine of regional security. If it's good for. It's not just going to be them. The Iran's just. This news just came across that Iran's Expeditionary Discernment Council Chairman, Sadeq Larajani, he said that Tehran's intervention in support of Lebanon constitutes a formal declaration of a new strategic doctrine under which attacks on any component of the resistance axis will trigger a response that extends beyond geographical boundaries and reshapes regional equations. So he said Iran's entered a new phase in which it no longer waits for threats to emerge before acting to preserve his position, but instead they're going to take the initiative. He also warned that any expansion of the conflict or attack on critical Iranian infrastructure would also be met with a comprehensive response. So we're in something new. This is brand new. This is not.

[Max Blumenthal]

But what is not new?

[Jimmy Dore]

So there we are. So Iran is not playing around anymore. Iran is saying that it's not just if you attack us, it's if you attack Lebanon, if you attack the people in Gaza. So it's a whole new structure and

[Kurt Metzger]

unionism, and that's against the law.

[Jimmy Dore]

And that's against. They're fine. They're following through on it.

[Kurt Metzger]

Hey, I just did a casual tally of how many times Israel violated the ceasefires since this conflict started. Well, depending on your prejudice. I know you're a real prejudice against Israel guy, Jimmy, but depending on where you stand, it's 500 to 3,000 distinct actions or clusters. So it's anywhere from 500 to 3,000 times. I didn't think it would be like that high.

[Jimmy Dore]

So it's a whole new doctrine and Iran has all the cards.

[Kurt Metzger]

The Iran row doctrine and.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yes. And. And now you. And it's not going to be. It's not going to be the Abraham Accords anymore. It's going to be the Islamabad Accords.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, what is. What was the Don Road doctrine? Thank you, sir. May I have another? I believe

[Jimmy Dore]

so. Trump's got nowhere to go except reign in Benjamin Netanyahu. And he can do that by getting rid of their list, just like we talked about before. Getting rid of their. We're going to cut all our defense supply and support for you. We're going to cut our loan guarantee, all that stuff. He can cut it off.

[Kurt Metzger]

And that you rat out all this stuff you're hiding in the Epstein files. How about you just do that?

[Jimmy Dore]

And that's the only thing he can do now to get Netanyahu to stop, because Netanyahu is not going to stop,

[Kurt Metzger]

because that's how you know it's going to be World War Three.

[Jimmy Dore]

Netanyahu is now being challenged, attacked from his right in Israel. So now the. The guy who's going to give you the Natalie Bennett, who was the former prime minister, who's looking to take over again from. Is now attacking Netanyahu, saying, you can't let this stand. Iran attacked us. You got to go back at him. And so Netanyahu's in a box and Trump is in a box. Because if Trump lets this keep going, we're going to see $10 a gallon gas. 70% of all the farmers already say they don't have the fertilizer to get us food in the winter. So that means food prices are going to skyrocket. It's a disaster for Donald Trump. He now realizes it's a disaster and he's really trying to get a peace deal with Iran because he knows he holds no cards.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, I can't wait to hear Dan Bongino's takes on this when everything collapses as a result of this moron and his blackmailed scumbag friends that he should have sold out instead of saying to mtg, well, my friends could get hurt. What a dummy. I mean, what a real nothing he turned out to be.

[Jimmy Dore]

I wonder why. One sec, one second. Go to. Go to Misha for a second. You should say something funny.

[Steph]

This is a. An exciting surprise. Everyone, I can read you our Slack chat, which might be.

[Jimmy Dore]

You can come back to me. So the question I wanted to ask Max, which I didn't get to, was why is the Pentagon now letting everybody know that they say Israeli spying is a problem? Why are they doing this now?

[Kurt Metzger]

They sense blood for Democrats to come back in.

[Jimmy Dore]

The Pentagon is increasingly concerned about Israel ramping up its spying on the US recently raising the counterintelligence threat level from America's top ally. In the Middle east to the highest level. Why are they leaking this? Why are they telling the press this? Why are they doing this? I really wish I would have asked my. The Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency in recent weeks issued the new counterintelligence threat assessment amid rising tensions. They said the DIA posted an internal message viewed by one of the current officials that raised the level for Israel to critical. The designation stems from concerns within the Pentagon that Israel is making a particular effort to surveil top U.S. officials to get information on the Trump administration's internal deliberations and decision making on the conflicts in the Middle East. The DIA assessment includes a seven page document and features a chart. According to one of the. The document says the assessment of Israel is that its ability to conduct human espionage and technical collection is at a critical level. And why didn't they release this before? It also identifies a series of specific incidents in heightened. The New York Times reports that the targets of Israel's intelligence include the people negotiating the peace deal, which means that they're also spying on Trump. Israel has attempted to undermine negotiations with Iran and prolong the conflict. Iran agreed to a ceasefire. Israel is attempting to surveil. Blah blah. A spokesperson for the Israeli Embassy in Washington said in a statement that it is completely false. Of course they did. A White House official said in a statement. This entire story is false. Okay. Why? It's commonplace for allies and adversaries across the globe to spy on each other. The current and former U.S. officials said Israel's recent efforts have gone well beyond what is typical. And by the way, the United States doesn't spy on Israel. That's a one way street. Israel spies on the United States, not the other way around.

[Kurt Metzger]

We go there to kiss that wall.

[Jimmy Dore]

The officials did not know if a specific incident triggered the DIA's decision to raise their counterintelligence threat level. Okay, okay. The report comes as Congress is considering the 2027 National Defense Authorization act, which includes provisions that's going to merge Israel's defense with the United States. Defense. That's what we already covered that before. Ryan Rosbiani says the Defense Intelligence Agency raised Israel's counterintelligence threat level to critical. Israel spying on Witkoff Colby Dominio US Personnel inside Israel found spyware secretly installed on their phones to tap their communications. Trump wants to deal with Iran. Netanyahu wants the government in Iran gone and to restart the war. So Israel stopped waiting for the American position and started listening to it. Here you go. Tell your house rep to take that out of the Bill, do not merge the Israeli defense with the United States. Call your, call your House Rep.

[Kurt Metzger]

This is even up for a vote. It's crazy. This is even up for a vote.

[Jimmy Dore]

Let's hear, let's, let's hear what Larry said again. Personal negotiator, which basically means they're going to spy on Trump himself since Trump talks to them.

[Larry Johnson]

Well, not going to. They are. That was. They are spying and they have. I was a little amused by the story because it was pretending like this was something new. Israel has been spying on the United States for, you know, 70 years or maybe 62 words. Jonathan Pollard. So this is not new. You know, it's just, it comes with the territory. But this particular claim that they. Israel was now specifically targeting people in and around Trump who are involved in the negotiations with Pakistan because Israel didn't. Wasn't being briefed. They wanted to know what the hell's going on because they were concerned that Trump was going to cut a deal. And in fact, that's why BB Netanyahu bombed Beirut yesterday in order to destroy this prospect for a negotiated settlement because it's going to leave them out in the dark and it's going to change the face of West Asia, Middle east, the Levant. Pick your term.

[Jimmy Dore]

So this deal will change the whole power structure in the Middle east, and that's what's actually happening. That's why they're spying. That's why they're bombing. And that's how these two stories are completely intertwined. Okay, over to Steph.

[Steph]

Okay, Misha, People love the glimpse of you. They loved it there. There was a lot of love there and some objectification. And, you know, I'm all for it. Okay, here we go. The Abraham God blows. What an emo. Jealous and weak. Not the true creator. Abrahamic God may have created us, but he is the abomination, not us. Wow. What, what's going on? Unvaccinated guy. What did I miss?

[Jimmy Dore]

Oh, come here.

[Steph]

Back to Jim.

[Jimmy Dore]

So this may be my favorite thing, and I'm sure I'm going to play it during the live show on the 19th. Tickets are already sold out, but we're going to have another live show coming up August 30th. So get ready for that August 30th new live show. But anyway, Trump said this. This is kind of mind blowing that he said this. What changed? Because you insisted no new wars. First of all, I didn't guarantee no war. Why would I have built the strongest military in the world? I built our military. I inherited a terrible Military.

[Ben Owens]

We had no equipment, we had nothing.

[Jimmy Dore]

I built a tremendous military. Biden gave a lot of it away, but it's still a relatively small portion compared to what I built.

[Mark Caputo]

But you said it over and over again.

[Jimmy Dore]

Why would I build a military now? I didn't want to use this, but I'm doing you and everybody else a big favor in the midst of the greatest stock market in history, in the midst of the most successful country, because, as you know, in the last time we were dead country. Christine, I know you, you're a big liberal or big progressive.

[Kurt Metzger]

No, I'm just a journalist.

[Jimmy Dore]

So he says, listen, what changed? Because you insisted no new wars. Didn't guarantee no war. I didn't guarantee no war. Well, let's listen.

[Max Blumenthal]

We're going to stop wars.

[Jimmy Dore]

No more wars, no more disruptions. We will have prosperity and we will have peace. Under Trump, we will have no more wars, no more disruptions, and we will have prosperity and peace for all. I am the candidate of peace. I am peace. We will turn the page forever. One of those foolish, stupid days of never ending wars. They never ended. You insisted no new wars, so of course you said that.

[Kurt Metzger]

I just said it over and over.

[Jimmy Dore]

I just said it over and over.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, it's like an Israeli ceasefire. It means absolutely nothing, you know, just going to do whatever.

[Jimmy Dore]

What changed? Because you insisted no new wars. I didn't guarantee no war. I'm going to stop wars. No more wars, no more disruptions. We will have prosperity and we will have peace. Under Trump, we will have no more wars, no more disruptions, that we will have prosperity and peace for all. I am the candidate of peace. I am peace. We will turn the page forever. One of those foolish, stupid days of never ending wars. They never ended. You insisted no new wars. It's like you don't even need a punchline for this. Trump's his own punchline now.

[Kurt Metzger]

Why does Bibi sit in your chair and probably ball your wife, you pussy. What a loser. I mean, what a loser. And the idea that you would be expected to be loyal to this idiot, that's how you know America is one of the most pathetic countries on Earth. That there's actually people who think that it's their job to be loyal to the guy that works for them. You fuck. Oh, my God.

[Jimmy Dore]

They're loyal to a guy who's working for Israel, doing their bidding at the detriment to the United States, to their own pocketbooks. They're paying two, three dollars more a gallon of gas right now because of it. And it's going to.

[Kurt Metzger]

Who are these people?

[Jimmy Dore]

Who are these people?

[Kurt Metzger]

I want to ask you to Seinfeld, who are these people who still believe most of the stuff online? I don't believe. As far as social media, it's almost all bots. There's not. Ian Carroll's right. There's like 20 people maybe, and then the rest are bots. Then you got people from Malaysia and India writing nonsense. In real life, though, there are people that still have faith in this idiot.

[Jimmy Dore]

In real life, there are some. It's dwindling.

[Kurt Metzger]

I should hope so, because, wow, if this was an IQ test for America. America deserves everything bad coming to it, because this is a real failure, again, not to vote for him. I don't blame nobody for that because he's the only guy who said no more war.

[Jimmy Dore]

He was the only guy saying it. So again. And they took. And the Democrats took away our choice, which was Bernie Sanders, and they didn't give us a choice for three straight presidential cycles. The Democrats rigged their primary to the point where the last time they didn't even have a primary. They disappointed Kamala Harris.

[Kurt Metzger]

Really, the question asked Trump is why should I believe America is real and the President's a real job and you're not just some puppet shots going, bitch? That's really the question asked Trump, because I'm not seeing any reasons here.

[Jimmy Dore]

All right, let's go to our super chats.

[Steph]

Okay, I'm back. All right, ladies and gentlemen, here we go. Thank you so much. Oh, four. This dog surprisingly does things that Betsy didn't do. Like, this dog likes chewing on my sunglasses. That's what that dog was doing right now. I think Betsy came in and told on her. On him. She's like, hey, do you know what this guy is doing?

[Kurt Metzger]

You have a new dog. It wasn't Betsy. I assumed it was Betsy.

[Steph]

No, it's the new dog. It's Benji.

[Kurt Metzger]

You see Tim Dillon's cat? It's the craziest thing I've ever seen. It looks like Crispr made it.

[Jimmy Dore]

So Chris Mahan had a hand. He tweets out. So they're having the AJC conference, and this is when the. The Jews that rule the world are letting you know that they do. You're not. You can't say that they don't, because that would be anti Semitic to say that they do and that they control world. They control the world banking. They control the world's power of politics. They control the world war. They don't, because that's. I'm not saying that, but let's listen to what they say. AI presents an incredible opportunity for Jews because instead of trying to control the whole world and manage social media, we can go directly to the companies with advocacy. So who says that? Dr. Maya Ackerman tells the American Jewish Committee for the first time, let's listen. Want to listen? Let's listen. Where do you see genuine opportunity? How can AI help improve Jewish representation?

[Steph]

It's a really cool thing about AI is that while it can become a

[Jimmy Dore]

great ally for our enemies if we act early, it can be exactly the opportunity that we need. After missing the boat with social media, AI is now becoming the dominant source of information, the main source of information. People trust AI more than anything else. They trust AI more than social media. They turn to chatbots like ChatGPT and Gemini instead of using Google. And young people use these bots instead of Google in very, very, very large numbers. So this is becoming the main source of information. Okay, so when I say this, I still find Jewish people being discouraged. They say, oh, but Wikipedia is already so anti Semitic and social media antisemitic, why bother? The AI just learns from all of this data. So, you know, whatever, not much we can do. But that's not true because over the past two years the AI companies have

[Steph]

been moving towards alignment.

[Jimmy Dore]

So instead of the algorithm sort of

[Steph]

honestly representing what's in the data, we're finding that these chatbots and the text

[Jimmy Dore]

to image models are increasingly showing us exactly what the companies want us to see. Okay, so it's becoming intentional, which means that instead of trying to control the whole world and trying to somehow manage what's happening in this big blob of Wikipedia and social media, we can go directly to the companies with clear technical and advocacy solutions. For the first time, there is a path to correcting the digital world.

[Steph]

Thank you, Maya. Yeah,

[Jimmy Dore]

so what she's saying is that we're going to control the information because we're going to control the companies that decipher the information for you. That present. That's what that, that's what that was.

[Kurt Metzger]

Is she from another planet where everybody universally loves AI and they're going to believe if AI starts telling you Israel's good, it's going to convert people that don't have money for gas and food and I mean, where, where are they from, these people? None of that makes sense. Social media, I can't go on X at all without seeing a million Israel bullshit things.

[Jimmy Dore]

So it's probably safe to assume that when we're told that AI has gone rogue and has decided to get rid of almost all of humanity. That it's really just the Israeli intelligence operators manipulating it to do so. Right?

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah.

[Jimmy Dore]

So. And we're just not going to ignore the man behind the curtain anymore. This isn't Oz and we aren't on the yellow brick road. Unless you're working for tmz, then you have to join the lollipop Guild. Noticing expert says, oh my God, could you show this? Oh my God. I don't get how they can say things like this on stage in front of a camera and there is an outrage or pushback. Well, there is outrage and we're up with the event. What's that?

[Kurt Metzger]

The event is old Jewish donor event. So guess what? They're all saying things for old Jewish rich donors. The kind of things boomers and idiots believe who have money. That's why she's saying that nonsense. That doesn't apply to reality. I mean, it's cool. We could see.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well, they do. I mean they bought TikTok, they got CBS News, they got Warner Brothers.

[Kurt Metzger]

But old Zionist Jews that are your bubby and zadie that have money, they have no idea what reality is and they actually think that Jews are in danger on X from all the anti Semitism I know.

[Jimmy Dore]

Well. So here noticing expert goes on, she is flat out saying they want to control the narrative and limit access to information that would make them look bad. And that they will pressure AI companies to program their services differently so they can control the whole digital world. It's all. It almost sounds like they're insinuating that Israelis are artificial intelligent. They're artificially intelligent.

[Kurt Metzger]

Is it artificial? Artificial Israel is going to run.

[Jimmy Dore]

Here is the adl.

[Steph]

The

[Jimmy Dore]

Anti Defamation League by their own admission is already doing this. By the way. Let's listen. Here's that. Here's the ADL guy. Now finally, we believe that we can't

[Max Blumenthal]

just throw our hands up

[Kurt Metzger]

and see anti Semitism as inevitable.

[Max Blumenthal]

If we want to stop it, we've

[Jimmy Dore]

got to change hearts and minds.

[Kurt Metzger]

And that's our third pillar from protect and advocate to educate. To my mind, to be smart about education, you need to follow the data.

[Jimmy Dore]

And by the way, nobody's better at changing hearts and minds than what is nothing. And nobody is better at changing hearts and minds than what Israel has done to the rest of the world in just a matter of five years.

[Kurt Metzger]

By the way, I'm prejudiced against Muslims. I keep telling everyone this. I'm prejudiced against Islam. I was at 9, 11. That's how bad Israel has cocked this up that I now think they are the main problem. That's amazing.

[Jimmy Dore]

They have flipped the consensus on their image faster than an Israeli soldier loading his Pampers. As soon as they face an opponent who can shoot back that's going to

[Kurt Metzger]

become a hostage magically means evidence based

[Jimmy Dore]

interventions that research demonstrates reduce conspiratorial thinking,

[Kurt Metzger]

diminish zero sum moral reasoning and strengthen the willingness of bystanders to act. Driving our efforts in this area is

[Max Blumenthal]

the ADL center for Antisemitism Research, or CAR.

[Kurt Metzger]

We have a team of PhDs at ADL. They are on staff and continuously running experiments, conducting tests to assess what works and what doesn't in reducing antisemitic attitudes. CAR is working with their colleagues in the ADL center for Technology and Society to understand how the major AI platforms

[Max Blumenthal]

are building their products so that we

[Kurt Metzger]

can help them prevent new technology from replicating the worst features of social media.

[Jimmy Dore]

We don't want LLMs to emerge as an even more potent super spreader of

[Kurt Metzger]

anti Semitism and hate. You know him talking spreads Anti Semitism 100%.

[Jimmy Dore]

So our friend Chris Mahanahanahan says. Here's American Jewish Committee CEO Ted Deutschland telling a rabbi at a New York synagogue earlier this year how he deals directly with social media companies to change the algorithms. Listen to this. In the 20th century, the American zeitgeist was defined by TV and newspapers.

[Max Blumenthal]

Today it's social media.

[Larry Johnson]

Does the organized Jewish community need a social media strategy?

[Jimmy Dore]

Look, we know from our state of antisemitism in America report that the largest challenge for us when it comes to fighting antisemitism is online. And there are multiple ways to address it. Yes, we need a better strategy, but there are multiple ways to address it. There is the content piece, and I think we have to acknowledge that it's important to put out meaningful content. It is also important to realize that the content is driven by algorithms that determine what it is you're going to see. And the way to address those algorithms is to deal directly with the social media companies, which is what we do.

[Max Blumenthal]

And we can point to successes with

[Jimmy Dore]

Meta and with TikTok and with others in working to ensure that anti Semitic material and antisemitic material that feeds into algorithms is taken down from their sites. This is an enormous challenge that the community will be well served to come together around. Every social media company has their own, their private companies, they all have their own set of guidelines, but all of them are consistent in not permitting dangerous hate speech on their site.

[Kurt Metzger]

So if we Change the definition to what we want, then we will control.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right.

[Kurt Metzger]

Dangerous hate speech. I just watched for the last how many years a bunch of dumb shit liberals saying this dumb shit. And now what? It's only for Israel. They're going to do the exact same thing? Is that I guess is what they're saying. I don't know why I'm asking.

[Jimmy Dore]

Sense and irritability says I like how pretty much every day they hold these high level meetings where they outright admit to conspiracies and still we get treated like conspiracy theories for calling it out.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, I like none of the nobody's brainstorming finest Ashkenazi minds came up with, hey, maybe don't use weird pheromone sprays to have dogs rape your prisoners. Maybe that would cut down on the bad feelings about you.

[Jimmy Dore]

Maybe.

[Kurt Metzger]

I Just a thought. I don't. Maybe don't have a fat like Randy Fine declaring he wants to bring up

[Ben Owens]

apac, which is interesting.

[Max Blumenthal]

It's interesting.

[Ben Owens]

I haven't thought about apac. It's interesting.

[Jimmy Dore]

Which is interesting, which is just interesting.

[Max Blumenthal]

Listen, it's interesting you say that, which is just interesting.

[Kurt Metzger]

What's interesting about it?

[Jimmy Dore]

It's just interesting.

[Ben Owens]

It's just interesting.

[Jimmy Dore]

As you bring up apac. It's just interesting.

[Kurt Metzger]

Look, if I was in charge, I would go, you know what they need to try doing? Being way more pushy.

[Jimmy Dore]

And I've said it before, that's what they should do.

[Kurt Metzger]

Stop holding back. Really try to flex your nuts.

[Jimmy Dore]

I don't want any trouble.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, Sarah, it's time for trouble. You gotta really be obnoxious now and not just, you know, hold back. Like you have to.

[Steph]

Shut up. Shut up.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, it's such a crisp. Shut up.

[Steph]

Shut up.

[Kurt Metzger]

It's really a good. Shut up.

[Jimmy Dore]

Want to hear my jokes about this? I'm going to be in Spokane and Tacoma this weekend and then I'll be in Levittown, New York, June 26th and 27th, and then Chicago, September 18th through the 20th. August 30th, we're doing another live show. We'll get you that ticket link coming up. Over to Steph.

[Steph]

Okay. This guy has no chance of ever holding any meaningful public office. Stephen who? It was our. Our guest that we had earlier, Spencer Pratt.

[Kurt Metzger]

Finally. Oh, he was robbed. Oh, so I know there's fraud.

[Steph]

Yeah, Spencer. Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

So hard. He said he called me up today. He goes, he has joke baggers. Yeah. Spencer Pratt spent $10 million to produce his wife's pop album. He wasted $10 million. I wouldn't trust him to manage 50 bucks after have you heard her music? He did blow 10 million on the worst music I've ever heard in my life.

[Jimmy Dore]

So. So. Today is the anniversary of Israel attacking the United States ship USS Liberty. Israelis were jamming our distress and tactical frequencies. This clip includes leaked Israeli military records confirming they knew they were attacking a US ship. So they did. So we know they did that and they knew they were doing it. During the Six Day War, Israeli forces attacked the USS Liberty, a clearly marked US Navy intelligence ship operating international waters. The incident resulted in significant casualties and became one of the most controversial military encounters in US naval history. And let's watch. This audio tape, which has never been broadcast before, was recorded in real time by the Israeli military during the assault. The woman's voice in the background is counting down the seconds. It proves that Israeli commanders knew all along that they were attacking an American ship. So they knew it. They knew it. And Lyndon Baines attack started and we

[Larry Johnson]

realized that we needed help. We tried to communicate with the sixth Fleet.

[Jimmy Dore]

They were jamming both our distress frequencies and our tactical frequencies. The tactical frequencies is all right, but the international distress frequency, which is a violation of international law, to jam them. And the Israelis were jamming them and

[Larry Johnson]

we could not get a signal across. Here's the question I have to ask. Who would know the frequencies other than an ally? And who was the ally in the war? It wasn't Egypt, it was Israel. They would know, and only they would know in this conflict what our frequencies would be.

[Jimmy Dore]

In a publicly circulated recording attributed to radio traffic after the first Israeli military argued about what should happen next and who should sink the Liberty. I remember thinking I was in pretty good shape. Then I said, I think I could swim it to the shore.

[Kurt Metzger]

And then I thought sharks. And I thought a lot of things

[Jimmy Dore]

all quickly, you know. At 11 minutes past 2, with the Israeli jets running out of ammunition, the pilots were instructed to fly down and confirm the identity of the ship. It was now 12 minutes past 2, and the Israeli control tower knew for certain this was an American ship. The same one its forces had first identified at 5:15am that morning and then buzzed again during seven additional reconnaissance flights throughout the day. The jets then pulled out, but three Israeli Navy motor torpedo boats were already on their way. So it's undeniable that Israel on purpose attacked us. Of course they did. Of course they would never do that on 9 11. Of course they wouldn't or not warn

[Kurt Metzger]

us on purpose and hope that it happened and then dance and celebrate. When it did, because it they knew we could be suckered into their wars for them. There may be that I don't know.

[Jimmy Dore]

Thomas Massie tweeted out, On June 8th, I'll speak on the floor of the House to honor and memorialize the brave crew of the USS Liberty who died and were wounded in an unprovoked attack by Israel on June 8, 1967. Catch my speech on C span. And so here it is on June 8.

[Sean Ryan]

They started the day. The visibility was unlimited. The American flag was flying proudly on the USS Liberty. More planes came from Israel to surveil the boat, the ship, and they thought they were in good shape. But what happened next surprised them all. French Mirage jets showed up and for 25 minutes strafed and attacked the USS Liberty. They shot rockets, they shot 30 millimeter cannons into the hull and into the ship. They even dropped napalm on the bridge of the ship. This was an effort to kill everybody on board. There was no intention of taking prisoners after the 25 grueling minutes of attack on this virtually unarmed ship. And they thought things were over and they could recover. The torpedo boat showed up, three torpedo boats. They launched four torpedoes. One of them hit the hull of the USS Liberty and killed 25 people instantly. It blew a 40 foot by 40 foot hole in the side of the ship. They were intent on sinking it, but they were also intent on not having a single survivor. According to eyewitness accounts, the Israelis machine gunned the lifeboats that they put down. They machine gunned the firefighters who were on the deck. They were bringing the wounded and the dead to the mess hall to triage them. They have one doctor who was trying to help them all, put a few stitches in. It was harrowing and it's amazing. If not for that crew, that boat would have sunk that day. But it still wasn't over. Helicopters showed up, combat helicopters and the USS Liberty, even though their signals were being jammed by the Israelis, got a signal out and there were ships that tried to respond. The USS Saratoga, the USS America sent planes. Both of them sent planes to help the USS Liberty. And something happened that's never happened before. A ship under attack. The planes were recalled. This has never happened before. And they sat there for 17 hours. 34 dead, 174 wounded out of 294 crew members. That's over 70% casualty rate, unheard of. The Israelis were intent on leaving no survivor. And what about our own military? Why did they not send anybody for 17 hours to help these men? So what really happened you know, the official reports say that it was a case of mistaken identity. But if you listen to Dean Rusk, former Secretary of State, Richard Helm, CIA Director Bobby Ray Inman, head of the nsa, Captain Ward Boston, who was the chief Counsel of the Court of Inquiry, if you listen to Admiral Moore, who served in Pearl Harbor, Midway, commanded both the Atlantic and Pacific Fleet, and was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, none of these distinguished men think this was an accident. They think it was intentional murder by the country of Israel, either as a false flag operation or because they simply didn't want anybody observing what they were doing that day. Well, I've got a call to action for everybody here. Honor these individuals. Quit ignoring that they exist. Go to their website, ussliberty.org, support them. And while they're still alive, they need closure. Let's give them closure. Let's have an investigation. Let's pass a resolution honoring them. It's long overdue. And then they can have their justice. With that, I yield back and I ask unanimous consent to enter into the record the declaration of Ward Boston, declaring that the only official court of inquiry was invalid.

[Jimmy Dore]

Nice going. Gen X girl Says for the past 59 years, a few members of Congress dared to help the survivors of the USS Liberty. The Israeli lobby severely targeted, punished and labeled these lawmakers as racists and anti Semites. It was Willem Fulbright, Barry Goldwater, Adlie Stevenson, Paul Finney, Pete McCloskey, James Trafikant, Jim Moran, and Nick Rahali. Or Nick Rahal. Imagine enlisting in the United States military, getting deliberately attacked by an ally. Watch your government collude with the attackers to cover up the attack. And spend 57 years censored and gagged by your government for the benefit of this ally Israel?

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, I mean, they just had ISIS over for tea at the White House, so, I mean, it's not, is it surprising?

[Jimmy Dore]

Dan Crenshaw, traitor to America. I've always had respect for Massie. He was always, in my opinion, wrong about his approach. But he was standing on heartfelt principles and had intellectual backing. He's a nice guy, but comments like this make me question his authenticity. The USS Liberty incident is a tragic one, but it's an incident with a clear conclusion if one uses any objective analysis of facts. I thought Massie was capable of objective analysis. Perhaps he still is. Perhaps we are simply witnessing another example of the irresistible incentive to jump on the bandwagon of grifters that guarantee you a specific kind of social media audience and attention that ultimately results in profits. Hey, Funny how Crenshaw neglects to mention what that clear conclusion is. What is that clear conclusion? Let's see. Dan Crenshaw takes almost a half million dollars in money from APEC. Thomas Massie, 0. I think we know.

[Kurt Metzger]

By the way, Thomas Massey doesn't have a podcast that he's doing that he's making money on. He got run out of office by Israel Money.

[Jimmy Dore]

That's right. Anyway, I wanted to show you that today, on the anniversary of the United States betraying its own soldiers while they're being slaughtered by Israel for Israel. That was LBJ. LBJ's mistress was Mossad.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, whoopsies.

[Jimmy Dore]

And he was most likely in on JFK's assassination.

[Kurt Metzger]

I mean, even people that. I mean, that's the most common take now, is that.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

If you still think it happened the way. But let's just look back on. Nobody at this point should be thinking the government story was correct with that.

[Jimmy Dore]

And Dan Crenshaw does. Dan Crenshaw does.

[Kurt Metzger]

He knows it's fake. He's a liar. He's a scumbag liar. He's a inside trader. He's a overblowing his military record. A bunch of people pick it apart. He's been a scumbag every step of the way. He's another John Carrier McCain, a complete phony scumbag.

[Jimmy Dore]

Yeah. All right, that's it. I'll see you in Spokane and Tacoma this weekend. I'll see you in Levittown June 26th. 27th. See you in Chicago September 18th through the 20th. Go to Jimmy Dore.com for a link. For tickets, everybody, check out Mystery Boys, Kurt Metzger's new podcast. Tearing it up on the podcast, Dunkman Trust.

[Kurt Metzger]

Trustals. Dunk Man Trust Mepsker and Dumpkin Tribbles.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay. All right, Kurt, we'll see you on Wednesday. Over to Steph.

[Steph]

Okay. Adios. All right, let's see. Here we go, ladies and gentlemen, we gotta. I have probably, like at least 30 to read today. And I know a lot of you are thinking, whose plaid shirt is that in the background? You saw it. The mystery guest in the room. He doesn't like. He's low profile. He doesn't want to let you know. Big screen camera 4 as my team makes their way out of the room. And Misha, don't look for any titles from me. Didn't work out. Did not work out. Yeah, yeah. My dog and my glasses. All right, Randy, fine is 150 miles wide. What? Savage of Aquarius or. Yes, Jake, let's be like billionaires. And stop relying on people being critical. Critical vulnerabilities. Open source gov. Jacob, thank you for that one. Liars. Jimmy Dore and all Doors guest. Unbelievable and evil people. And Walker Double I. You come back to me. That is. That is so weird that you're saying that. That's so weird. Joke. It has to be a joke. Liars. Everything's a scam. Everything's a lie. Everything's hypocrisy. So I derp on your curb while I drink the slurp. Oh, yes. And that was from Mr. Cruxtra. I guess. Massive respect for those fighters. Other sports athletes should take notice. No kidding, Kurt. I'll stop making a daily reminder when it stops being true. Fair enough. Vienticus and Ashley. Jimmy. I pay for the charming smile. Reading the messages is just a bonus. Vienticus Epstein's personal FedEx account was active through 2023 or 2024 thanks to what was released by the FBI. P.W. walker, Dale Gribble. I don't know what that was referencing. Shekel Master. We don't want athletes involve themselves in politics. Speaking up against genocide is not political. Pretending it is is though. Pretending it is is though. Speaking up against genocide is not political. Okay, Steve. Bertram, thank you. Took a zag for me. Massive respect for those fighters. Other sports athletes should take notice. I agree, Steve. I had to read it again. We don't want athletes. Oh, I read that one. Okay, here we go. No more wall fuckers. Bitcar. Thank you, Bitcar.

[Dan Bongino]

Art.

[Steph]

Thank you, Art. Steve. Thank you, Steve. Okay, I read that one from a vaccinated guy. G.J. trump is telling us the systemic problem. Loyalty to billionaires, not US Constitution unvaccinated. Whomever married Bongino must be a troglodyte. Imagine their offspring probably having Habsburg jaw and a gecko eyes. Picture it. Savage IDF using thermobaric weapons to vaporize people. Emilio Estevez wearing silicone mask plays Trump. RC Bongino leaves admin like Bannon did. I read that one, gj. Thank you, gj. Join the juche for American workers study on Caleb Maupin YouTube channel Tuesday PM. Penny, thank you for the info, Penny. Ben's eyebrows grow every time a new data center is brought online. Kirk Saturn will become Helios as the age becomes golden Risk. Thank you, Chris. Hey, Jimmy and Kurt. Wish all of the best for you. That's Johnny Henzel. Totally makes sense. The feds logged into his Fortnite account to see if there was any Chomo stuff. John Smith Epstein is Dead. Because dead men tell no tales. Morty Duke. Thank you for that one, Morty. Like Max, I'm a Jew with red hair, but unlike Max, I have nothing interesting to say. Hobbs. All right, Hobbs. I am more of a yarmulke man myself. John Smith.

[Jimmy Dore]

Jd.

[Steph]

I can see you in a bucket hat. Thank you for that. That's from Vegan Z. Bucket hat I have to go look at. A bucket hat is. Everybody's like, oh my God. You don't know what a bucket hat is. I don't. All right, careful. All right, you can let. You can let Betsy out. Oh, hold on. It's okay. We're gonna go in a minute. Can you give me. You know what? All right. Go out. See the whole thing. I can't let my dog run around right now because he has the cone. I know. Come here, come here, come here, come here. You're gonna go out and I just have to read 10, and then you're out my lap. In less than three minutes. I bet. Okay, so it's 6:18. Give me three minutes. Sean Ryan is obvious limited hangout XCIA and obviously meant to resemble Rogan in appearance and in studio decor to lure Rogan fans came out of nowhere but has big names on all the time. My ass Shoes Magoo. Thank you, doctor. Yeah, plenty of ops front running the market. Can't wait to see Jimmy's new card where the megaphone is changed to a dog with Elizabethan cone. I think that's so funny. Vienticus. Thank you so much. Evanstar. Seemed like Tucker went mute after your epic Charlie rant. Did he say anything off camera after? Still baffled as to why he didn't speak. Please share what you can because it's inexplicable to me. Evan Starr. I'll ask him again on camera. I didn't get to that. And he's already working in the other room. Vienticus came across an interesting video about China's economy. I thought you might be find it interesting. Thank you so much. I shared it with the team. Yeah, plenty of ops front running the market.

[Jimmy Dore]

Okay, all right.

[Steph]

Okay, hold on. All right, let's see that one. Ari Shafir told us what to do. We just gotta listen. Corruption killer. Oh, didn't he? Right. I think Jimmy might play that at the panel show. The dogs eating glasses paid by free healthcare. Barry and McGrowin. No. Pray tell me how any of this disaster for Donald Trump lame duck billionaire who's profiting off the mess he's created. All right, Rubber toe. I'M coming in for the ending here. Hey, cowgirl, can you jingle your bells for daddy? I don't even know what that means. This dog is a little different than brownie. Okay, we're almost ready. I'm going to put you down. We're almost done. Artificial Israeli equals AI a non believer. I already cheated on my AI girlfriend. Basement specter. October 7th is now burn Israel Flag day worldwide. Fuck Israel. Mother night. Coming in strong. Follow the data, then erase it. That's happy Donut farts. Do this one. Come on. How about you just go

[Max Blumenthal]

faster?

[Dan Bongino]

I bet.

[Steph]

Here we go. Israeli is an ally to the billionaires of America, not to the people of America. Vienticus Village People need to change lyrics. In the navy you got. You get bombed by Israelis. And that's Vinticus Prime. Ladies and gentlemen, we try to get to most of your comments and we appreciate you being here. Today is Monday. Is that today? Monday. We'll be back on Wednesday at 3pM And Friday, we're going at 10. Mark your calendars. I'll see you Wednesday. Bye.