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A
This is the Jocko Underground podcast number 197, sitting here with Echo Charles. We have received some questions from you all and we will provide some guidance, some recommendations, maybe in some cases some answers and at a minimum, some courses of action you can take to overcome the challenges we face in life. You good with that?
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B
I'm good with that and that's very well said. Thank you for that. Okay, first question from the Interwebs. I'm currently a sergeant at a sheriff's office in the northeast. I've been at my current department for around 10 years, but I'm thinking of transferring to another department that is closer to my home. My current department is around a 45 minute drive from my house. The department I am looking to transfer to is only five minutes away and it has a better schedule. 4 on, 4 off, 4 on, 3 off. Compared to the current department that I'm at. 5 on, 2 off. If I transfer I will be making the same amount of money I'm currently making. I would have to start over on the road as a regular deputy, although the department I'm at currently is smaller and I still have to answer calls as a sergeant because of the limited staffing. I feel like making the switch would be a better. Would be better just for the schedule alone as I have a family and I would have more time with my kids. Of course I will lose my sergeant title and I'm struggling to decide what choice I should make. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for all you do. I'm a die hard listener from day one and I hope to make it to a muster someday. Cool.
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A
Yeah. Let me just tell you my biases in this, in this situation because I think they make it a really obvious answer for me. Number one, I don't like commuting. Like you start Talking about a 45 minute drive, that's an hour and a half a day that's gone. So I don't like commuting at all. I don't mind spending time in the field. So having to go out and do the work as it going back to being a deputy. Cool. Like regular deputy get some titles don't mean very much to me if anything. So like hey, I get no joy out of being a sergeant or deputy or captain or a lieutenant, it just doesn't matter to me. And your kids are going to grow up quick and you take an hour and a half a day, right? And that's what how many, you know, that's hours and hours a week that you're not seeing Them. So with those biases, I hate to say it because normally, you know, I, you know, I'm a little bit cautious, but my biases is pretty easy answer for me. I would change apartments, I would work close to home, I'd spend more time with my family, I'd enjoy a better schedule, I would bust my ass, I would get promoted, you know, very quickly because I would be so focused when I'm on the job. The schedules better. Four on, four off and then four on three off. Like that's a four day weekends, you know. And I get it, man, you're working hard when you're out there, but still you got three day weekends and four day weekends as opposed to two day. Like this is a total no brainer to me. Especially you're making the same amount of money. Like this is a total no brainer to me. That's it, that's what I got. I mean, it's straightforward to me. I don't even see. I can't even come up with negatives.
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B
Yeah, me neither. I mean, I guess under those circumstances of someone really wanting that title, which, you know, in internally, like certain cultures, like, I see how that could, maybe I could get there, is what I'm saying. But. And I recently heard that people with long commutes have like a lower, like, what do you call, like woody, you know, when you evaluate your own life, the quality of life or whatever is like lower, I guess. Yes, reported lower.
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I'm not surprised. I do know people that kind of take advantage of their commutes and they make calls and they listen to podcasts and all that stuff, which is cool. But bro, I'd rather be making calls while I was on a freaking treadmill in my house or something, you know, or while I was, you know what I mean? So.
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B
Oh my gosh, big time. So like every two weeks or so you're losing a whole, whole day? Yeah, yeah, straight up. Whole day just dry, you know, compared to five minutes, bro. How it doesn't matter the job. Like if you had a job and someone said, hey, you might even lose some pay, like a little bit of pay. But instead of driving kind of a lot of pay, driving all the way to the next two towns over or what Depends on where you live. You know, we'll say the next town over, 45 minutes there one way and then 45 instead of that, you just drive one block or two, three blocks down the road, you'd be like, yeah.
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Well, you don't get paid for driving. So now you get an Hour and a half a day. Just take that hour and a half and like, what, what is that? Payment? Yeah, because you're paying them back. You're working, you're working an hour and a half a day for free.
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B
That's a good, good point.
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A
So yeah, it's a no brainer to me. Go get some.
- [04:51]
B
Oh yeah, that's a huge point actually.
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A
Yeah.
- [04:54]
B
So yeah, you're like, what about these people with the hour, two hour commutes? Yeah, you're right. You are kind of working for free.
- [04:59]
A
There are times where like sometimes guys in the, in the military, in the SEAL teams, they'll live an hour and 20 minutes away. They got like a two hour commute a day, two hour, two and a half hour commute a day. But they bought a house somewhere in some place that they really want to live, the school district, whatever. And in the SEAL teams, like you go to work sometimes you go only go to work once. So that is a little excerpt of what we are doing on the Jocko Underground podcast. So if you want to continue to listen, go to jockounderground.com and subscribe. And we're doing this, we're doing this to mitigate our reliance on external platforms so we are not subject to their control. And we are doing this so that we can support the Jocko podcast, which will remain as is free for all as long as we can keep it that way. But we are doing this so we don't have to be under the control of sponsors. And we're doing it so we can give you more control, more interaction, more direct connections, better communications with us. And to do that, we are, we're building a website right now where we'll be able to utilize to strengthen this legion of troopers that are in the game with us. So thank you. It's Jocko underground.com it costs $8.18 a month. And if you can't afford to support us, we can still support you. Just email assistance@jocunderground.com and we'll get you taken care of. Until then, we will see you mobilized Underground.