414 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Theo Von

Summary

Podcast Summary: Joe Rogan Experience Review Podcast - Episode 414: Review of Theo Von

Introduction

In Episode 414 of the Joe Rogan Experience Review Podcast, hosts Adam Thorne and his co-host delve deep into the latest episode of the Joe Rogan Experience featuring comedian and podcaster Theo Von. Released on December 3, 2024, this episode offers a comprehensive analysis and critique of Theo Von’s appearance on Rogan’s show, exploring a range of topics from political commentary to personal anecdotes.

Administration’s Handling of Hawaii Wildfires and Ukraine Funding

The conversation kicks off with a critical examination of the Biden administration's response to the devastating wildfires in Hawaii. Theo Von and the hosts express frustration over the administration’s allocation of funds, arguing that substantial resources were directed towards Ukraine while domestic tragedies were seemingly neglected.

Theo Von (00:31): "You can't, while you're sending all this money overseas, ignore the people that are here."

The hosts contend that the $700 aid package for those affected by the wildfires was insufficient, especially when contrasted with the billions sent to Ukraine. They question the administration’s priorities, emphasizing the need to support citizens dealing with one of the largest wildfire disasters in recent history.

Personal Struggles and Community Support for Theo Von

Shifting focus, the hosts discuss Theo Von’s personal well-being, noting signs of him struggling during the podcast. They highlight Joe Rogan’s advice to Theo about the importance of community and avoiding isolation.

Host 2 (07:11): "He needs a hug. He needs a few more days. The Comedy Mothership."

The conversation underscores the significance of social support systems, especially for public figures like Theo, who may face personal challenges despite their public personas.

Comedy Mothership’s Election Night and Celebrity Involvement

The discussion transitions to the Comedy Mothership’s coverage of election night, featuring notable comedians such as Kurt Maxwell, Tony Hinchcliffe, and Nate Bargatze. The hosts reflect on the event’s significance, particularly in the context of the political climate and celebrity endorsements.

Theo Von (12:24): "I just think it'd be so sick, so fun."

They also touch upon Elon Musk’s involvement in the political scene, speculating on his support for Donald Trump and the potential implications of his technological prowess in shaping election outcomes.

Elon Musk, UFC, and Tech Titans in Politics

A humorous yet insightful segment explores the idea of tech moguls like Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg engaging in activities such as UFC fighting. The hosts muse over the possibility of these billionaires taking a more active role in the sports world, blending their business acumen with athletic pursuits.

Theo Von (14:35): "Those two aren't gonna fight. They're too busy doing porn shit."

This lighthearted discussion highlights the intersections between technology, sports, and politics, painting a whimsical picture of what could be.

2020 Election Analysis: Mail-In Voting and Voter Fraud Theories

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to dissecting the 2020 U.S. election, specifically addressing the surge in mail-in voting and the ensuing voter fraud allegations. The hosts debate the credibility of claims suggesting that 15 million extra votes were cast fraudulently, acknowledging the lack of substantial evidence from investigations.

Host 2 (19:56): "I truly don't believe that they [voter fraud]."

They explore various factors contributing to increased voter turnout, such as lockdown-induced stay-at-home measures and heightened political engagement, while also considering the logistical challenges posed by the U.S. Postal Service during the election period.

Proposal: Making Election Day a National Paid Holiday

To address low voter turnout, the hosts advocate for designating election day as a national paid holiday. They argue that such a move would provide more citizens the opportunity to vote without the constraints of work schedules, potentially increasing participation by millions.

Theo Von (21:42): "If you want a national holiday, sweetheart, I'll get you one."

This proposal emphasizes the importance of making voting more accessible and underscores the democratic principle of ensuring every eligible voter can participate without undue burden.

Celebrity Endorsements in Politics and Their Impact

The episode critically examines the role of celebrities in political endorsements, discussing how figures like J.Lo, Eminem, Beyoncé, and Dave Bautista influence public opinion. The hosts express skepticism over the authenticity and effectiveness of these endorsements, suggesting that financial incentives often underpin celebrities' political stances.

Theo Von (24:14): "Can we go through some of these?"

They argue that while celebrity endorsements can amplify political messages, they may not significantly contribute to policy-making or governance, often serving more as performative gestures than substantive support.

Kamala Harris’s Campaign Performance and Debate

The hosts analyze Kamala Harris’s campaign tactics, particularly her debate performances and public speeches. They critique her ability to connect with voters, highlighting moments where her communication style appeared disingenuous or unconvincing.

Theo Von (33:19): "What did he hope to gain from it?"

They discuss how Harris’s campaign strategies, including her debates and speeches, may have impacted her overall momentum and voter perception, ultimately contributing to her electoral challenges.

From Politics to UFC and Bizarre Airbnbs: A Shift in Topics

As the podcast progresses, the conversation takes a humorous turn towards more unconventional subjects, such as UFC fighters’ health issues and strange Airbnb accommodations. The hosts share amusing anecdotes about fighters experiencing gastrointestinal distress during weigh-ins and discuss bizarre lodging options like whale bone huts in Iceland.

Theo Von (42:52): "Just go on a fast and then eating a lot and ending your fast can really upset you."

This segment showcases the hosts’ ability to pivot between serious political discourse and lighthearted, entertaining topics, maintaining an engaging flow throughout the episode.

Conclusion: Personal Remarks and Light-Hearted Farewell

Wrapping up the episode, Adam Thorne and his co-host extend heartfelt messages to Theo Von, expressing admiration and encouraging him to seek community support. They reflect on the depth and breadth of their conversation, appreciating Theo’s contributions despite his personal struggles.

Host 2 (45:31): "Theo, Legend, we love you to death and feel better."

The hosts leave listeners with a blend of support and humor, encapsulating the multifaceted nature of their discussion and reinforcing the podcast’s commitment to thorough and relatable analysis.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Theo Von (00:31): "You can't, while you're sending all this money overseas, ignore the people that are here."
• Host 2 (07:11): "He needs a hug. He needs a few more days. The Comedy Mothership."
• Theo Von (21:42): "If you want a national holiday, sweetheart, I'll get you one."
• Theo Von (24:14): "Can we go through some of these?"
• Host 2 (45:31): "Theo, Legend, we love you to death and feel better."

Final Thoughts

Episode 414 of the Joe Rogan Experience Review Podcast offers a rich tapestry of discussions, seamlessly blending political critique, personal reflections, and humorous exchanges. Through insightful analysis and candid conversations, Adam Thorne and his co-host provide listeners with a nuanced understanding of Theo Von’s appearance on Joe Rogan’s show, making it a must-listen for fans and newcomers alike.

Transcript

[Host 1]

You are listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review Podcast. We find little nuggets, treasures, valuable pieces of gold in the Joe Rogan Experience Podcast and pass them on to you, perhaps expand a little bit. We are not associated with Joe Rogan in any way. Think of us as the talking dead to Joe's Walking Dead.

[Host 2]

You're listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review.

[Theo Vaughn]

What a bizarre thing we've created now.

[Adam Thorne]

With your host, Adam Thorne.

[Host 1]

This might either be the worst podcast.

[Theo Vaughn]

Or the best one.

[Host 1]

Go enjoy the show. I'll tell you one thing. What? The way the administration handled that, I think put a bad taste in a lot of people's mouth, while at the same time they're sending all that money to Ukraine. I think that was a big problem with the Biden administration when they did that. I think you can't do that. You can't, while you're sending all this money overseas, ignore the people that are here. Because then it's like, why are you deciding in this manner that you don't want to help people that were hit with one of the biggest wildfire tragedies ever? Why are you. Why are you deciding to give them $700?

[Host 2]

Like, especially in one of the most.

[Theo Vaughn]

Beautiful places that our country has to even exist?

[Host 1]

Not only that, but you're not protecting them from potential land grabs.

[Theo Vaughn]

There we go. Potential land grabs. That's Theo Vaughn on Joe Rogan. This is the first conversation these two have had since the election. Obviously, both of them played a big part in Donald Trump's podcasting campaigning, I would say. And. And there they were talking a little bit about the Maui fires, which, honestly, people aren't talking about much. And it kind of was washed over after the whole thing went down, which is such a tragedy and awful. You know, they. They were talking about, you know, how critical they were of the response to the fires. And you know, what the Biden administration did. I know BJ Penn and Tulsi Gabba came on and talked about how nothing was getting done and there was some sketchy going down. You know, just the fact that they offered him $750 each, when you know, so many millions and billions were going to Ukraine. It's heartbreaking, right? Even if you're pro all the money going to Ukraine, like, isn't there a point where we're like, okay, of this 10 billion we're about to send, we're going to have to keep three of it because we've just had a tragedy and these are our people and we got to take care of them. Is that out of the capability of the Biden administration? Do they not have the power to do that? I mean, I know a lot of the money for Ukraine was approved by Congress, but could they not get money approved from Congress for the fires, for rebuilding?

[Host 2]

Yeah, I mean, I can't. I can't speak to the process at which money.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, we don't know.

[Host 2]

Right. Speculative. Speculatively. I don't know. I mean, I just. I think Theo's right. Like, it is for anyone who's been to Hawaii. Hawaii is so special of a place. Like, it is unlike any other place in the world. Even though, like, there's other tropical vacation spots, there's Mexico, you know, there's, you know, the Bahamas, whatever. But something about Hawaii is really special. And there's a lot of history there. There's a lot of it. There's a lot of historical sites. And so on top of, you know, this, like, 102 people died. So that's the count that they've settled on. 102. Thousands of people lost their homes and livelihoods. You know, plenty of people, you know, are just literally, like, homeless now. And obviously, the land, like they've said, is so valuable because it's. It is so incredibly special and beautiful, and it's a part of the United States. There's no other territory or state in the United States that looks like Hawaii. Right. And, like, there's a reason it's so expensive to vacation there is. Because you can't get anything else like it in the country. Right. And so, yeah, I just, like. I'm just in awe and disgust that, like, so little was given to them. I can't say what is happening in the legislation and how that money got approved and why they felt like $750 was adequate, but it's absolutely not the value within, you know, what a person's home is in their livelihood and their lifestyle. Especially when it comes down to people who have such a strong, unique culture, like those that live in Hawaii.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

I don't know.

[Theo Vaughn]

Well, I mean, look, they accidentally sent 6 billion extra dollars to the Ukraine. You know, could they not accidentally send fucking 4 billion to Hawaii?

[Host 2]

I mean, intentionally.

[Theo Vaughn]

$150?

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Under the Biden administration. That's like, full 12 packs of eggs. Groceries are ridiculous.

[Host 2]

They are. No, I mean, but intentionally send it. Like, send a message that, like, people are important and when tragedies happen, like, we take care of our people.

[Theo Vaughn]

They didn't do that.

[Host 2]

We're taking care of a lot of other people in A whole different part of the world that I understand. There's some resources and things like that that are involved, that feel important to those that are sending the money. But, I mean, what are we doing here?

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. It makes you think, like, how well they did with the. All the flooding that happened recently and the hurricane stuff.

[Host 2]

Nothing.

[Theo Vaughn]

Probably not good.

[Host 2]

It was the same thing. 700 is what they got. And it's like, why are we not. And I think with the election, a lot of that kind of got swept under. It was, like, sort of part of it, but not really. It was like, everyone sort of had their campaign strategy. Everyone sort of had their campaign pillars and that, like, obviously sort of just.

[Theo Vaughn]

But the people whose houses got swept.

[Host 2]

Away, they haven't forgotten.

[Theo Vaughn]

And those communities. Yeah. That they're voting differently.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

There's a price there.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

I want to start this out just by kind of addressing Theo's mood. Poor Theo. He seemed like. And it was still a great conversation. I was glad he was on. He wasn't a bummer at all. But he seemed like he was having a rough time, and he's, you know, he's an open book. Like, you could see it. He's struggling. Joe gave him some advice and was like, hey, buddy, you. You need to be around people. You can't be in the woods on your own all the time. I love his little analogies and metaphors that he just throws in there, but it's good. It's like. It's true. It's like, theo, buddy, move down to Austin. Yeah, okay. Just move down there. I know you're busy. Go find a house. Get back to that community. You'd have a great time at the comedy mothership all the time. You can tour from there. You can do whatever you want. You got money. You know, still have your place in Nashville or wherever it is that you live, but get amongst that community because you're struggling, brother. And all the smelling salts and whatever drinks you were trying to.

[Host 2]

He was. He was feeding first for a. For some type of high.

[Theo Vaughn]

Like, he wanted some zins.

[Host 2]

He wanted anything and everything. He was seeking, you know, to get a little buzz.

[Theo Vaughn]

I mean, I get it.

[Host 2]

Yeah. There's. There was. I think there was a lot to unpack with. Just when you saw his, like, body language and his, like. I mean, I wouldn't say he was, like, non enthusiastic, but.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, he kept collapsing into the mic.

[Host 2]

He literally.

[Theo Vaughn]

He was putting his eyeball into the.

[Host 2]

Mic, and I just.

[Theo Vaughn]

It was me, dude. I want to give him a hug.

[Host 2]

I just going to say that. I just wanted to give the guy a hug and be like, perk up, dude. Like, you've done great things. You have a very popular podcast. Like, you're so funny, you're so light, and you bring so much heart. And, like, you know, just a lot of, like, love to, like, the podcast world. Right. So let some of the stress go. But also, you know. Yeah, he talked a little bit about, like, the potential of wanting kids and wanting to find a wife and all of that. And so the sense of sadness that you got from him was a little sad.

[Theo Vaughn]

He was just feeling lonely.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

You know, and a bit incomplete is what it seemed like. And it came across, you know, in a bigger way than it usually does. Like, he mentioned things like that on his show, and he's like, I said, he's an open book, but, you know, I'm not going to say I'm worried about him, but I'm like, hey, hey. He needs. He needs a hug. He needs a few more days. The Comedy Mothership. And hopefully Rogan can.

[Host 2]

Did he used to get it back in Austin?

[Theo Vaughn]

No, but he used to live in LA with Gotcha, near the Comedy Store, where there was a great scene and a lot of support because of COVID You know, he moved back to. Or he moved to Nashville. I don't know if it was back to Nashville, if he'd lived there, but. And he has a. Probably a bit of a community there, but it's not quite the same. It's not like that level of comics. And though I would assume Nate. What's his name, Nate Bagatsi is there.

[Host 2]

So that guy's funny.

[Theo Vaughn]

He's great. All right, election night of the Comedy Mothership. Now, this was interesting to me because Kurt Maxwell was there, obviously. Tony Hinchcliffe and the Puerto Rican joke. So, like Joe was saying, Tony was praying, praying hard. It sounded like a great group of people to have there and be having a blast with. Now, I'm sure it's always that fun at the mothership, but on an election night, it's kind of something special because comedians, you know, are often talking about these, like, world events and making jokes out of it. And this time around, you've got three people in the same club that had an impact on the election. This episode is brought to you by DraftKings Casino. It's the most wonderful time of the year. Holidays on the house at DraftKings Casino. With this season's offerings, you'll unwrap everything on your list. Exclusive games, huge jackpots, and exciting rewards. DraftKings is offering a warm welcome to new players with $100 instantly in casino credits with just a ten dollar wager. Plus everyone can get in on the action with a holiday reward every week. So sign up with code JRE because the holiday cheer is here only on DraftKings. Casino Gambling Problem Call 1800 GAMBLER in Connecticut. Help is available for problem gambling. Call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org Please play responsibly. 21/physically present in Connecticut, Michigan, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, West Virginia only void in Ontario eligibility restrictions apply. New customers only opt in required casino credits are non withdrawable and expire in 168 hours [e-mail] promos I think it's fair to say Theo being one of the first people to interview Trump kind of set the podcasting campaigning in motion. Which ultimately once he got to Rogan show was a huge benefit for the Trump campaign. And then of course Tony did his Puerto Rican joke at the and look, I'm not laughing at the joke. I'm laughing at the fact that he was even pulled into this at all. Yeah, but he went to, what was it, Madison Square Garden and went to the Trump rally opened up, which is like so odd. And even Obama like did his bit kind of explaining that Tony is a racist, like wild dude. So now you've got them all in this club, obviously heavily invested in this outcome on this night and just watching it together like to be a fly on the wall.

[Host 2]

Huh. I was just thinking that like I want to invite to that party.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah. You know, it would have been so sick, so fun.

[Host 2]

I mean he, they talked about the show was saying that he was getting like different election results from all his different sources. You know, this, this seat, this place and this platform and this with this app. Yeah. But apparently Elon was there and.

[Theo Vaughn]

No, no, Elon wasn't at the moment.

[Host 2]

It wasn't there. But he created like his own app to like get the election results before.

[Theo Vaughn]

So Elon was with Trump and Dana White at wherever they were.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

And supposedly, yeah, with this app, Elon knew like four hours before. I don't like how, but are you surprised? You know, the Tony Stark of human beings, you know.

[Host 2]

No, not at all.

[Theo Vaughn]

Iron man minus the suit.

[Host 2]

Right.

[Theo Vaughn]

Just has an app that told him he's like donald1 I'm going home.

[Host 2]

Literally I say Joe's impression of him is that exactly that really? Donald1 I'm going home four hours early. It's just like. You can just picture it happening, and, you know, this is all hearsay. We have no idea how the app worked or if it was accurate, but he was confident in it, and that's what happened. That was. That was quite funny. And. Yeah, but I think getting an invite to that party is like, when is he party, you know?

[Theo Vaughn]

Well, but with less. Less baby oil, I think. Where. How long do you think it'd be before Elon starts going to the ufc? And what's interesting about that is Zuckerberg loves going to the ufc.

[Host 2]

What?

[Theo Vaughn]

So if you get Elon and Zuckerberg.

[Host 2]

There wasn't there supposed to be a fight between the two of them?

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, yeah, that's just El talking to.

[Host 2]

Mark, so I haven't forgotten.

[Theo Vaughn]

Zuckerberg started training jiu jitsu real hard.

[Host 2]

Because they were gonna fight in the Coliseum or something.

[Theo Vaughn]

60 pounds lighter than Elon. So other than being a lot younger, I mean, unless he learns some jiu jitsu real fast, Elon's way bigger.

[Host 2]

Yeah, but.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, that. But I would love to see him going to some UFCs, just kind of being a part of that sport, you know? I mean, to see two of the potentially wealthy, well, basically wealthiest people in the world into the sport that I love the most, I'm all for it. I'm like, let's fucking go.

[Host 2]

Like, yeah, I'm not like. I wouldn't say I'm the biggest.

[Theo Vaughn]

Elon could. Elon could host the first UFC on Mars.

[Host 2]

It's a big deal that he could. No, I'm not the biggest UFC fan, but I would watch that. I mean, I watched some of the UFC fights. Like, I don't know. It's kind of nice sometimes watching the women. It's a little bit empowering to watch them. And you're like, gosh, I don't know that I could ever get punched in the face like that, but, you know, but I would totally watch that. Yeah, that'd be so cool to see, like, just those two people, especially in the Coliseum. I mean, that's, like, something you can never imagine happening. I mean, no one fights.

[Theo Vaughn]

Those two aren't gonna fight. They're too busy doing porn shit.

[Host 2]

They all reached out to the country of Italy, and we're like, italy, we want to use the.

[Theo Vaughn]

No, no, no. I think Italy reached out to them. Yeah. Dana was, like, on a call with the people that could allow it at the Coliseum.

[Host 2]

So weird.

[Theo Vaughn]

I mean, you know, when it's those two, though, like, people forget. Billionaires can do whatever the Fuck. They want, like, you can't break the laws, but they can do almost anything that they want to do because they could just afford it.

[Host 2]

Well, I just, sometimes I think about like, can you, can you imagine being as smart as Elon Musk and just being like waking up the day before the election and being like, I'm going to find my own way to figure out the results before or like I'm going to solve my own problem today. Like, I have this issue, I'm going to figure it out. I don't need anyone's help. It's like I'm so helpless. Like if something breaks, I'm like, yeah, I mean, throw it away. I don't know. I.

[Theo Vaughn]

When you own Twitter and you know, supercomputers and your own AI, I mean, I'm sure you can gather a lot of fucking information real fast.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Imagine having the completely uncensored version of chat GPT. Oh, you just ask it, how do I take over the world? And it gives you like a one.

[Host 2]

Through ten step says, be weird first, be extra strange.

[Theo Vaughn]

Hop up and down oddly talk odd. Yeah, just do it. Let's talk about voting trends. Theo got into that and was kind of like speculating a little bit and making some jokes as well on the 2020 elections. And, and you know how they were influenced, maybe by the lockdown or were people just kind of like bored and hanging at home or was there something else? I mean, 18 million more votes, I think it was. Was it that many? 81 to 66? I guess not, no. So 15 million, that's a shitload of extra votes. I know people hated Trump and therefore were like very motivated, but it just, it's an unusual outlier and especially since it was like around the time when there was mail in ballots, which was new on a mass level.

[Host 2]

Right.

[Theo Vaughn]

So sometimes it takes multiple elections or attempts at anything to get those systems down. Well, it's like, oh, are we to believe that the first mass mail in ballot election, we nailed it? Like, have you seen the U.S. postal Service?

[Host 2]

It was struggling during that time. Definitely. I mean, well, maybe not during the election, but in the years to follow it. The. I don't know if anyone remembers that, but like mail was like so late. It was so. It was. But so, I mean, from my perspective, I voted mail in during that election out of Montana. And Montana's always had mail in voting because it's like a very rural state, it's very large in geographic area. And so like mail in votes are really important for those in rural Counties and things like that. There was a lot of speculation. I don't believe that there's like this massive conspiracy that 15 million false votes existed. Right. But what I want to know is where they came from, because that can be leveraged in future elections. I mean, that's just. That's all there is to it. It's like if it was. If it was one, you know, potentially people were at home on lockdown, they were bored, so they voted. I don't know that I believe that that's like the mass amount, maybe that's a couple hundred thousand, right, like across the country, where people just, like, kind of bored. I'm a little bit fired up. I'm paying more attention. I'm going to go vote. I have the time. Right. Mail in voting increased because people were at home. Right? So, like, people physically went because they weren't working or because they didn't have to be in the office, they were able to go to the polls. Mail in voting obviously increased. We know that. That, like, that reflected in how long it took to count the votes. And then also, you know, like, younger voters maybe mobilized just over like, their dislike for Trump during that election season and, like, kind of the fear around everything and sort of like, wanting some consistency with what was happening or some, like, inconsistency. What was happening, like a change, because they were so scared of what was to come with the pandemic that they thought going out and voting against him was going to, like. And voting for Biden was going to, like, fix what they were dealing with. But we obviously realized, like, that wasn't the case.

[Theo Vaughn]

It was like, it seems pretty fudgeing comical now.

[Host 2]

Fucking backfired on them for sure.

[Theo Vaughn]

When we, like, groceries are how much?

[Host 2]

Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I. I think that. I think it could be a good combination of the three and maybe some other things that we're not considering. I think it'd be really interesting to hear from those listening, like, why you think that that is. And I mean, again, voter fraud is obviously, like, on the table, but I truly don't believe that they. Voter fraud at 15 million.

[Theo Vaughn]

Supposedly there were a lot of investigations to look into it, and they did not find any substantial voter fraud. You know, so you're inclined to believe it, yet it still seems really funky. And I wouldn't be surprised if in 20 years we get some information about this using AI and some other software and some other investigative process to where we're like, oh, this is what happens. And it was wild. Yeah, I Wouldn't be surprised.

[Host 2]

One thing they talked about that I think is like a fabulous idea, which I don't know why. This isn't a thing. I'm sure people have thought about it, proposed it before. But like, why? You know, because in 2020, so many people were home and they weren't like physically at work. Whether it was they were out of work or they were just working from home, like they weren't there. And like, it's like basically a holiday. Why is an election day a holiday?

[Theo Vaughn]

That's a good point.

[Host 2]

Why is it not a paid national bank holiday?

[Theo Vaughn]

Why don't they just make it Saturday?

[Host 2]

Well, you can't make it sad. No, you couldn't make it Saturday, but why don't make it a fucking Friday. Make it a three goddamn weekend.

[Theo Vaughn]

Why can't you make it Saturday?

[Host 2]

You can't make a national holiday on Saturday.

[Theo Vaughn]

No, no, I mean, just if it's Saturday, it doesn't have to be a holiday. People aren't working on Saturday.

[Host 2]

There's banks that are still open on Saturdays. There's restaurants. I mean, there's still. Life goes on. But like, if you make it a weekday, it can be a bank national holiday or whatever. National holiday, bank holiday, whatever you want to call it.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, but. But national holidays, like restaurants and different things are still open as well. So some people have to do.

[Host 2]

That's true.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

But if you work those days, you get paid extra. If you work a national holiday, a lot of times you get paid extra to work on Saturday, you get holiday pay. Well, yeah, but whatever.

[Theo Vaughn]

Either way, we're talking about the same thing. But Saturday is less work because you don't have to make a holiday. Most people are off.

[Host 2]

It should be a holiday. It's a big fucking day. It's at once every four years. It's one of the most important things that we do as a citizen is vote. And what if it increased and we had a consistent, you know, jump in votes? What if we had 15 to 20 more million people?

[Theo Vaughn]

I'm saying either one would be good.

[Host 2]

Okay.

[Theo Vaughn]

And if you want a national holiday, sweetheart, I'll get you one.

[Host 2]

Then get it. Do it.

[Theo Vaughn]

We're gonna campaign on that.

[Host 2]

I'm very passionate about this. I'm not gonna shut up about it, but.

[Theo Vaughn]

No, it makes sense. I mean, look, we're always talking about more access voting, right? That's why they don't have. They don't require voter ID in what seems like only the states that went blue, which is quite sort of interesting. But you Know, it's all about access for voting. And there is no better way to have better access to voting than to make sure people are not working that day. Like, if it was a prideful national event where everyone was off, then, you know, let's get crazy. Let's make everyone off that day. But they also get paid. It's just a thing that happens. It doesn't happen every year, but it happens when it happens. And then everyone still gets paid to not have to go to work. And the idea is. And the hope is that they go vote, but also it's their right to not vote if they don't want to, because this is America.

[Host 2]

It is.

[Theo Vaughn]

But I think we would have then record turnouts, and, you know, that's just better for democracy as a whole. Talking about things that are not good for democracy, though, is all these fucking celebrity endorsements.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

And can we go through some of these? I know it's kind of unfair because the left gets more of them, so it just looks bad. I mean, the right had some Kid Rock. It had someone. Rose. I don't know who she was. She was like a model.

[Host 2]

I don't know.

[Theo Vaughn]

She had a shaved head.

[Host 2]

I don't know.

[Theo Vaughn]

You know, Amber Rose. Is that a person?

[Host 2]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Her? Who else? Hulk Hogan.

[Host 2]

I mean, Elon Musk.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Rogan.

[Theo Vaughn]

They're a little different.

[Host 2]

Eventually.

[Theo Vaughn]

Dana White, I guess, but they came around. But celebrity celebrities, you know, like Hulk Hogan.

[Host 2]

Entertainers. I get what you mean.

[Theo Vaughn]

True. And then on the left, JLo, Eminem, Beyonce. Freaking. Oh, Dave Batista. Did you watch?

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

So they talked about his video where he's like, donald Trump's a win.

[Host 2]

Oh, my God.

[Theo Vaughn]

If you want to be really tough, vote for Kamal. I don't even know what the video, now that Trump won, looks so bad. I don't know what to think. Like, I liked him as an actor. I thought because of the Guardian movies, like, you know, he's. To be. To go from being a wrestler to an actor is hard. The Rock did it. Crushed it. You know, Bautista. How do you say his name?

[Host 2]

Bautista.

[Theo Vaughn]

He seemed like he wasn't quite gonna get his acting chops down, but honestly, he was doing good. He was starting to do some movies that I liked, and I believe that he had some, like, heart in there. And then you just start acting like this, you know? And it's not that he was supporting Kamala. Like, that's fine, but. But, like, don't be that cheesy. And it's like, what are you. But what Are you even trying to do. Did they pay him a lot of money to do this, or is he just, like, feels this strongly about elections? I mean.

[Host 2]

Yeah, yeah, I would think.

[Theo Vaughn]

I just feel like if I was any level of celebrity, which I never want to be, hope I never happens, and it won't because I'm not talented enough. But I could never stand for any politician. Like, even if I was into one of them, I'm like, why would I work this hard to get to this point and then just attach myself to some nincompoop political party regardless? It just seems like such a dumb move, you know, I guess for like, the J. Lo's and the Cardi Bs, it's like they're just expected to do that. Maybe. I don't know.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Though you do have to question J. Lo's ability to make good decisions. Yeah.

[Host 2]

I mean, I think we talked about this briefly on a previous episode in terms of, like, the, the influence and the impact that it, you know, celebrities endorsing a certain party have on, like, the image of that party as a whole. And, you know, when Elon Musk comes out and says, I endorse Donald Trump because I'm going to fix a problem, people tend to think, oh, Donald Trump's going to fix this problem. Donald Trump is not Elon Musk. Right. But, like, at the same time, the celebrities that, you know, I mean, there were a lot of companies and celebrities and, you know, C suite people that were supporting the Democratic Party, don't get me wrong, like, they existed. It's pretty equal, I imagine. But the, those that they like, really led with, like the entertainers, the artists, it's like, yeah, you guys are really talented at one thing, but you're not gonna solve, you're not gonna fix the problems in our economy. You're not gonna be an advocate in the, you're not gonna be a cabinet member in the White House. You don't have a seat at the table. You're just someone who has a large following. And people listen to those who, like, already they're listening to, in terms of, like, they're consuming their music and so on, their social media content, whatever. But these people are not really contributing to, like, the cause in any way. They're just, like, getting emotional. They're actors, they're singers or whatever, performers, and they put on a really good performance. And that's what, that's what Bautista did. I, I didn't not enjoy the video. Like, it was quite comical, it was quite entertaining, and like, absolutely Spoke to me a little bit in terms of like, what he was saying, but at the same time, you look at it like you said after the election now, and it's like, it's a bit silly. Like, it's. It's very dramatic.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, well, I mean, my point is, like, what did he hope to gain from it? Obviously that she won maybe some roles maybe that really like, stamps him as like one of the real lefties, you know, for Hollywood and he can start getting some real artsy roles. I don't know. I mean, I mean, he thought about it, you know, I'm sure he discussed the idea with people and. But it just like, it's. For me, it's equally as ugly if he came out the other way, like, and was like, yeah, I'm pro Trump and I'm tough and so is Trump, and he got shot and he's okay. And you need a real man in that. It'd be like, like, all right, dude. Yeah, maybe.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Like, I just don't know if that helps those messages.

[Host 2]

I don't think it is. I think. I think it's a lot of like, you know, when, like, did you ever watch that show like my sweet 16 or just like, you know the concept of like having like a major birthday party for like a teenager.

[Theo Vaughn]

I heard about.

[Host 2]

Okay, yes. They like, do things like, you know, these super, super, super, ultra wealthy people, you don't even know their names, are so wealthy and like, they pay like Usher to come to their kids 16th birthday party or whatever in sync, like, you know, like whoever like the big band is at this point, they pay like millions and millions of millions of dollars for like six hours or four hours of this, like artist time. It's like, these artists can be bought.

[Theo Vaughn]

They can be bought easily, but like.

[Host 2]

Not for that much money. Like when it comes. She spent how much fucking money, Kamala Harris on this campaign?

[Theo Vaughn]

A billion.

[Host 2]

Paying him to do that, that he. She probably could have paid him $2 million. And he's like, done. I'm doing it.

[Theo Vaughn]

Do you think?

[Host 2]

But it's like, it totally degrades, like, the quality and like, you know, like, this guy does not know this person. This is not a favor he's doing. He's paying this person to do it.

[Theo Vaughn]

More than likely. Yeah. Do you think that, I mean, you know, talking of those wealthy people in Hollywood or LA that pay NSync or Beyonce or Usher to come to sing at their kids party or their party or whatever, do you think that they also have a bit of bragging Rights to be like, oh, I didn't even need a payer. We just know her through, through someone. They just make it seem like it's. It's just a favor even.

[Host 2]

Right? Well, that's what they would like, want you to think. But in reality, it's like these celebrities can be bought, like for not that.

[Theo Vaughn]

Much, you know, I'm sure they're not cheap, babe.

[Host 2]

Well, but in terms of like, when you have money, when you have that kind of money, it's like, and you want people to think that you're so special that John Legend comes to your birthday or comes to your wife's party.

[Theo Vaughn]

And drop 100 grand on them showing up and literally playing like five songs.

[Host 2]

Or two, you know, and singing Happy Birthday and leaving. It's like, that seems like a favor, but it's not. It was a gig, you know, and that's for a lot of up and coming artists. Like, that's how they make their money, you know, because it's like they're popular, but maybe they don't have like a, you know, actual record, you know, contract yet. Regardless. I mean, Batista, he's like a reasonably big actress. Like you said, he's in the Guardians of the Galaxy. Like his imbd, pretty impressive. But in terms of that, like, I just looked up his endorsement of it and you know, he even made some social media posts about it. Like, I don't doubt that he believed in that campaign and that he supported it, but like, absolutely, he got paid to do it. He didn't do it just for fun, you know, so that's where it's like, I don't know, I mean, you look at the other side and you look at how like die Hard Elon Musk was over supporting his endorsement of Donald Trump. And he paid how much money? Like 50 million, $100 million to the campaign. Like, you know, there's a lot of out there that says he straight up bought the vote, but, you know, he thought it was so important that he paid to have that done. And like, he's as bigger celebrity than Bautista is. But Bautista probably got paid to do that commercial from the Harris campaign. I mean, they spent a lot of stupid ass money and on stupid ass things and he went with it.

[Theo Vaughn]

It kind of leads into some of the critique that she started to get. I mean, Joe and Theo talked about it. So there was a few things that happened. Like she had, she was nominated by Biden, supposedly, so they couldn't do a primary. They had to. The Democrats had to put all Their eggs in the basket of Kamala hoping that she could nail it. And then they did a debate and the Trump Kamala debate kind of looked pretty even potentially. Kamala looked a bit better. You know, I mean, it didn't really help that the mediators only or moderators only fact checked Trump, which was kind of a little bullshit. They could have hit Kamala up, especially with her statement when she was like, oh, there's no foreign people abroad, military people abroad fighting. And it's like, what are you talking about? But she did build some momentum from that. Then she went on to make a speech that Joe was discussing. I'm gonna play it now. And you can kind of tell that she was really gaining some momentum at this point.

[Adam Thorne]

So here's the thing, here's the funny thing about that. Here's the funny thing about that. So he won't debate, but he and his running mate sure seem to have a lot to say about me. And. And by the way, don't you find some of their stuff to just be plain weird? Well, Donald, I do hope you'll reconsider to meet me on the debt debate stage, because as the saying goes, if you got something to say.

[Theo Vaughn]

There you go. So, you know, I don't have a lot to say about the style of that, but that's someone that is feeling the crowd. That someone is speaking to the crowd and the crowd is like, I think we got something here. Like, the debate went well. This seems like a win. He doesn't want to do it again. She might be able to handle him, which, let's be fair, many politicians haven't turned out. She couldn't ultimately and, you know, lost miserably. But it's like, what were the pieces there? And in one of the uglier bits was some of the compilations that have been put together on her accents. And this is her speaking at different places. And I'm just gonna play a short bit of it because I don't wanna. I don't want it to go on for too long. But it really does give you an idea of like, it's just awkward and really cringy and I don't know what she was trying to do, but, you know, you be the judge of it.

[Adam Thorne]

I love you back. I love you back. Hello to all my divine nine brothers and sisters and my sorority. You better thank a union member.

[Host 2]

For.

[Adam Thorne]

The five day work week. You better thank a union member for sick leave. You better thank a union member for paid leave. You better thank a union member for vacation time. Let's just get through the next 64 days. And you all helped us win in 2020 and we gonna do it again in 2024.

[Host 2]

Yes, we will.

[Adam Thorne]

Yes, we. Donald Trump, on the other hand, has been talking a big game about securing our border, but he does not walk the walk. Or as my friend Quavo would say, he does not walk it. Like, he talks it.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, my goodness.

[Host 2]

I mean, it's a lot. They describe her.

[Theo Vaughn]

What is going on there?

[Host 2]

They describe her as a. Joe describes her as a chameleon. And I don't know, I mean, I think as a politician, like, this is like a good trait. It's a. It's an effective trait, right, to, like, talk to your audience, like, know who your audience is and, like, meet, you know, like, talk to.

[Theo Vaughn]

I don't think anyone would say it's very genuine, though.

[Host 2]

It's not genuine, but Theo even says he's like, you know, I kind of meet people where they're at. Like, if I walk up to someone and, like, they're talking in a certain way, I'm like, hey, like, I'm going to talk in this way too, you know, like, you can. You can match someone's energy, you can match someone's.

[Theo Vaughn]

There isn't a level. I get it. I mean, if you're in a serious board meeting or in court, you were the judge. You're going to act way different than with your buddies. But you don't usually change your accent.

[Host 2]

It is odd.

[Theo Vaughn]

That one's unusual.

[Host 2]

It's odd. It's super odd. I mean, I think.

[Theo Vaughn]

I mean, if all of a sudden I was like, g'day, mate.

[Host 2]

Here.

[Theo Vaughn]

You guys doing well?

[Host 2]

You already talk weird, so who cares?

[Theo Vaughn]

Throw another shrimp on the barbie.

[Host 2]

You could say whatever you want and it's all going to sound the same because you're.

[Theo Vaughn]

I don't just become Australian ish or whatever. I just tried to do that.

[Host 2]

Like in America, you talk. You sound funny. When you go back to uk, you sound funny. You just. You don't belong anywhere.

[Theo Vaughn]

Well, I'm just funny.

[Host 2]

So that gets you through, huh? Yeah, I think it's. It's a very calculated thing that she's done. I. To sway votes for sure, but I don't know. It like, it. Maybe it's pretty harmless. It's annoying, but it's. I don't know that it's like. It's not a criminal act, you know?

[Theo Vaughn]

I know. And it. And I'm not saying it lost the election either, but it. It wasn't good no. You know, and this is just like one of many of, like, the kind of old things. I mean, we. Do we even need to talk about Waltz? And I think we covered it, you know, before in the Dave Smith episode. But, you know, what an oddball that guy was. Making a bunch of statements about Tiananmen Square, where he never was, military, combat missions that he didn't ever do, that he was a head coach when he was not. It just like a bunch of things that are like, what are you doing, dude? You haven't even started being a real politician and you just. You're just already making up a bunch of nonsense. Like integrity was just getting lost left and right. No, it's not a good start, is what I'm saying. Like, no, she could have picked many people that were just known for having really high levels of integrity. And then it's like, it's start there at least, like, please help us out. And then ultimately, yeah, she lost a lot of momentum from that. She kind of peaked and faded after, I would say, that speech, the first one we played. And then there we go. It just kind of like went downhill from there.

[Host 2]

Yeah, I mean, the conversation evolved out of politics into, like some pretty off the wall things. I mean, starting with UFC fighters, like, shitting themselves during fights.

[Theo Vaughn]

I did not realize.

[Host 2]

I did not realize that that was a thing. I mean, it's happened. It's disgusting.

[Theo Vaughn]

It's happened.

[Host 2]

I can't imagine.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, but think about it. So this is what people don't think about. I'm surprised it doesn't happen more. They have to make the weigh ins. So they do this like, unbelievable weight cuts, which often involve fasting, dehydration, saunas. Then they rehydrate really quickly. And there's rules to that. You can't use IVs, you can't do X, Y and Z. And then often they will then eat a bunch of food. And, you know, all of those things together are massive potential for a ton of diarrhea.

[Host 2]

It's true.

[Theo Vaughn]

Just going on a fast and then eating a lot and ending your fast.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

Can really upset you.

[Host 2]

Even when you fast, you have to, like, ease back into it. And you don't even do it that seriously.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, of course. I mean, I don't really know if these guys are all necessarily fasting hard when they're doing their weight cuts. I mean, they have a very controlled diet, I would say, you know, and maybe they are very careful about what they start to consume afterwards. I don't really know much of their Protocols. But generally, when you're messing with the body at, you know, quite extreme levels, which is what they're doing, trying to get weight down as low as they can to weigh in and then get it back up as fast as they can so that they're heavy for the fight. It. It messes with your systems and. And, yeah, you're gonna poop your pants.

[Host 2]

So strange. I mean, how would they know? Okay, you said they can't have IVs. How would they know? How do they know that they've had an iv? Because that's just.

[Theo Vaughn]

I think it's some sort of hydration test. I think that there's, like, a limit to how much. How hydrated you can get in so many hours from just drinking liquids.

[Host 2]

I'm gonna look that up because that seems like.

[Theo Vaughn]

Well, it makes sense it would work because it would then have to go through your stomach and all the rest of the things, you know, to. To, like, get into your bloodstream. Whereas when you're doing IVs, it's straight in there. So, yes, there's. There must be a test for it. But, yeah, some poop in the pants stuff they got into. What else were they talking about?

[Host 2]

They were talking about, like, off the wall Airbnbs.

[Theo Vaughn]

Oh, yeah.

[Host 2]

Like, there's one like, well, you can.

[Theo Vaughn]

Stay in whale bones.

[Host 2]

Well, I think he was just given, like, a. Off, like, you know, the mind of the Von. Just, like, so raw and real. Like, just, you know, thought vomit. Basically. Anything that comes to his mind, he's talking about, like, you stay in a whale carcass in Mexico. Like, I don't think that's actually.

[Theo Vaughn]

Actually in, I think, Iceland, they have, like, whale bone little huts that are super old because it's not a bunch of trees there. So they've used, like, the rib cages of whales as, like, the roofing for little huts.

[Host 2]

Ew.

[Theo Vaughn]

Well, they're super old now. It's not, like, dripping flesh, just. It looks like white wood. And they've made, like, little huts that's.

[Host 2]

So near the beaches, it's too much. But, you know, like, then they looked up some real ones, and it's like you can say in, like, a flying saucer.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

And like a. Like a giant potato or something. Like in Idaho maybe. I don't know. It's crazy. Just. Just humor yourself and Google craziest Airbnbs and. But Joe's like, if I wasn't married, I would have the craziest house. And I feel like that's like most men, like, most.

[Theo Vaughn]

Most Men with millions and millions of.

[Host 2]

Dollars, like, they would just have the most ridiculous, like, bachelor pads that aren't even. Bachelor pads are just like. You have to climb up a ladder to get into it.

[Theo Vaughn]

And it's an entire video.

[Host 2]

Yeah, it's just like a treehouse filled with video games, trampolines. It's so stupid.

[Theo Vaughn]

Sounds amazing.

[Host 2]

It's like, there's not even, like, a spoon. You just have to eat, like, drink everything. You can't even use.

[Theo Vaughn]

Just use your hands.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Theo Vaughn]

So good.

[Host 2]

It evolved very quickly. The conversation was quite humorous.

[Theo Vaughn]

Look, Theo is always fantastic. I mean, you know, I know he's dealing with some stuff. So. Theo, if you're listening, we just want to say you're a national treasure. You bring so much joy and laughter into the world, and your podcasts are fantastic. So take care of yourself. Move your ass down to Austin. Listen to, you know, Daddy Joe.

[Host 2]

I just had the best idea. I just had the best idea. Go on dating. Show the Von Bachelor style.

[Theo Vaughn]

He. He actually did a show kind of like that where. I don't know. He. There's an episode with Bobby Lee where he's like, Was it Bobby Lee? He's trying to get him laid. He's, like, helping him go on dates or something. Theo is so. Yeah, I don't really know the ins and outs of that show. I'll put a link in the bio.

[Host 2]

But I just think he'd be so fun. Like, he's so. He's so funny, and he's so entertaining.

[Theo Vaughn]

Yeah, but he said he gets really nervous around women, so maybe he's not. He's not like, a player. He doesn't. Yeah, he doesn't do that.

[Host 2]

Well, tell me about. Tell me more about the mind of a man trying to impress a woman. Is that like a big. Is that like, something that really is, like, a thing?

[Theo Vaughn]

What do you mean?

[Host 2]

Like, it doesn't just, like, you just don't naturally. Or like you have it or you don't. It's like you think a lot about it. Or is it. If you don't have it, you have to think a lot about, like, impressing women. I do.

[Theo Vaughn]

I don't really know what your question is, but, like, anything, you can practice it. Like, no little kid that just starts to have a crush on girls knows how to do anything with that. It takes time, practice. Supposed to do most of it in high school, and some people get out of high school and even out of college and into their 40s, and they still can't approach women. And that just is how it is. It's just. It's difficult thing. Gotta learn it.

[Host 2]

All right, well.

[Theo Vaughn]

But, Theo, Legend, we love you to death and feel better. And that is it for this week. We appreciate you guys, as always, and yeah, we'll talk to you later.

[Host 2]

Cheers, y'all.