425 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Dan Richards

Summary

Episode Summary: Joe Rogan Experience Review of Dan Richards (Episode 425)

In Episode 425 of the Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast, hosts Adam Thorne and his co-host Todd delve into the insightful discussion between Joe Rogan and guest Dan Richards. This episode provides a comprehensive analysis of various topics ranging from political controversies to alternative archaeology, reflecting on the broader implications of misinformation and the pursuit of truth.

1. Introduction to the Episode

The hosts begin by setting the stage for the episode, highlighting their mission to extract valuable insights from Joe Rogan's podcast. They emphasize their commitment to presenting balanced viewpoints, especially when addressing controversial subjects.

Host [00:00]: "We find little nuggets, treasures, valuable pieces of gold in the Joe Rogan Experience Podcast and pass them on to you..."

2. Kamala Harris Controversy

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around recent controversies involving Kamala Harris and her association with Joe Rogan's show. The hosts critique a book that allegedly spreads misinformation about her appearance on the podcast, challenging claims that Joe Rogan was disingenuous regarding her participation.

Guest [00:32]: "There was a thing that came out recently... they said things that just weren't true."

Adam Thorne expresses his disappointment over the spread of misinformation, especially during election seasons, and stands in solidarity with Joe Rogan's integrity.

Adam Thorne [02:23]: "I believe he's telling the truth. I believe he's telling the correct series of events."

The co-host echoes these sentiments, questioning the motives behind the damage control efforts and suggesting that the narratives against Joe Rogan lack credibility.

Co-Host [04:10]: "I was kind of curious about how this went down... I'm starting to think so."

3. Dan Richards: A Skeptic in Archaeology

Dan Richards emerges as a central figure, portrayed as a skeptic who challenges mainstream archaeological narratives. The hosts appreciate his balanced approach, noting his reluctance to accept conventional explanations without questioning their validity.

Co-Host [14:45]: "Dan talks about a lot of very ancient stuff... he's a skeptic."

They discuss Richards' skepticism towards theories like ancient aliens and his focus on uncovering the truth behind historical mysteries, such as the Ark of the Covenant.

Adam Thorne [17:21]: "There are three sides to every story. Finding the truth should always be the goal."

4. Mars Anomalies: Pyramid Base and Beyond

The conversation shifts to recent discoveries on Mars, specifically the observation of what appears to be the base of a pyramid. The hosts analyze whether this could signify ancient construction or merely optical illusions caused by shadows and lighting.

Co-Host [22:01]: "We have what looks like the base of a pyramid on Mars... Is this really the sign of ancient construction? Is it bullshit?"

Adam Thorne reflects on past Mars anomalies, such as the "Face on Mars," and remains skeptical about their authenticity, attributing them to natural phenomena rather than evidence of extraterrestrial civilizations.

Adam Thorne [23:56]: "Sometimes, my God, I get really excited... but it also takes me away from reality."

5. Cocaine in Mummies: Contamination or Usage?

Another intriguing topic is the discovery of cocaine residues in mummy hair samples. The hosts debate the plausibility of contamination versus actual usage during the time periods when the mummies were preserved.

Co-Host [30:24]: "How did cocaine get in a mummy? It should be in the hair."

Adam Thorne [31:00]: "I just want to know how they justified declaring the mummies tested positive for cocaine."

They express skepticism about the findings, questioning the methodologies and intentions behind the research.

6. Gobekli Tepe and Shifting Archaeological Timelines

The hosts examine the significance of Gobekli Tepe, an ancient site that predates the pyramids by thousands of years. They critique the rigidity within the archaeological community in adjusting timelines and paradigms to accommodate new discoveries.

Co-Host [32:37]: "Why are they so firm and held in... their thinking? It's not creating trust in people."

Adam Thorne underscores the importance of flexibility in scientific inquiry, advocating for openness to new evidence that challenges established narratives.

Adam Thorne [33:21]: "Projects that are looking to support or challenge some mindset... investments can influence research outcomes."

7. Conclusion: The Pursuit of Truth Amidst Misinformation

Wrapping up the episode, the hosts commend Dan Richards for his dedication to uncovering truths and his respectful engagement with divergent viewpoints. They highlight the importance of seeking factual evidence over reinforcing personal narratives, stressing that truth-seekers play a crucial role in advancing human knowledge.

Co-Host [30:24]: "Dan talks about the Go Beckley Tepe stuff, the Bimini Road... it's great."

Adam Thorne [30:03]: "We should be really grateful for people like this."

They conclude by encouraging listeners to explore the episode for a deeper understanding of the complex interplay between mainstream and alternative perspectives in both politics and archaeology.

Co-Host [33:45]: "I love what Dan's doing. I love his approach. It was solid."

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This episode of the Joe Rogan Experience Review podcast offers a thought-provoking exploration of contentious topics, emphasizing the necessity of critical thinking and open dialogue in the face of widespread misinformation. Hosts Adam Thorne and Todd provide an engaging analysis that not only reviews the original podcast episode but also invites listeners to reflect on the broader implications of truth and skepticism in today's information landscape.

Transcript

[Host]

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[Co-Host]

You're listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review.

[Guest]

What a bizarre thing we've created now.

[Adam Thorne]

With your host, Adam Thorne.

[Guest]

Might either be the worst podcast or the best one.

[Co-Host]

One go.

[Host]

Enjoy the show.

[Guest]

This is probably a good time to talk about this. There was a thing that came out recently. There was a book. There was some book about the Kamala Harris campaign where they talked about her getting on this show and they said a bunch of things that weren't true. They talked to a. Supposedly Talked to like 150 different people about her. And you know, what happened with her coming on the show? I don't know if it's 150. A lot of people, they didn't talk to us and. Which is kind of crazy. They didn't even ask, but they said things that just weren't true. One of the things they said that weren't true was that we lied about the day that Trump was coming on. No, we just didn't tell you that Trump was coming on. He was already booked a long time ago. This is how it worked. Trump was really easy to book. Like super easy. We offered one day, he said yes, that was it. There was no. What are we going to talk about? How long is it going to be? Is it going to be edited? There was nothing. What's the waiver? Here, give me that waiver. Sign it. It was.

[Co-Host]

There we go, folks, this is the controversy that's happening with the Kamala Harris Joe Rogan conversation. I mean, there's been many articles written right now about what happened, why Kamala didn't go on, or Kamala and where are we with this? You know, it's like, is. Is everything that they're saying bullshit over there? I mean, I'm starting to think so. Like, they're really hammering Joe about this. And it's like, why even do damage control after you lost this hard? I don't know. What do you think?

[Adam Thorne]

I find it unfortunate and sort of discouraging how much misinformation is spread during election seasons and, you know, the rumors that go around during this time about both parties, you know, and a lot of it is taken out of context and true and truly, a lot of them just like, there's not A lot of truth to them. And I just find it wild. You know, these stories take off before facts are checked. And in this scenario, we. We all, you know, lovers of Joe Rogan fans, I guess, and love. You know, people who love the Joe Rogan experience want to believe that he was in the right here and that he's telling the truth here. Obviously, there's not any way to validate this entirely, but I believe he's telling the truth. I believe he's telling the correct, like, series of events. And, yeah, I mean, there's a lot of random, like, peculiar circumstances around Kamala coming on the show and why she didn't come on the show. And as Joe explains, I mean, getting Trump on was easy. It was. Here's the day. Okay, sign the waiver, you're on, show up. Just him, three hours. And it's normal, as it typically should be for a Joe Rogan experience guest. Nothing complicated about it.

[Co-Host]

Yeah, yeah, that's what it sounds like to me. And, you know, this was covered in the Dan Richards episode. Obviously, this is a bit of a sideline to most of Joe and Dan's conversation, but it was the most controversial thing happened in the Rogan sphere up until now. And you know what? Honestly, I. I was kind of, like, curious about how this went down. Like, I didn't expect Joe to run some sort of, you know, psyop against Kamala, but at the same time, I'm like, all right, well, you're hearing this from. From their side, and I feel like they would have wanted her on. Like, that's a good move. Maybe they really couldn't, like, get her on. No, turns out she didn't want to go, is what I think.

[Adam Thorne]

I mean, of all of the things, like, all of the ways that he made it possible, she basically made it impossible. She. For every reason that he was like, this makes sense. Let's make it easy. She was like, this is not what I want, and. And I'm gonna show that through making it complicated. Yeah, it is so unfortunate. I mean, he talked a bit about, you know, wanting to have had both guests on Trump as a guest and Kamala as a guest and releasing the episodes on the same day.

[Co-Host]

No, no, he didn't want them on together. He was just gonna release.

[Adam Thorne]

Right. Release the episodes on the same day.

[Co-Host]

Right.

[Adam Thorne]

And I mean, like, he didn't want to be. He wasn't trying to be biased in his own right. Like, he was. He was really trying to give both candidates an open. A large, influential, you know, widespread platform to Speak their, their message. And, and one of those two parties just simply forfeited that opportunity.

[Co-Host]

That's so wild.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah.

[Co-Host]

They had a billion dollar budget to figure out how to become president and they didn't have a team that was like, oh, podcasts. Like, even if you had a team that was like, yeah, I don't think you should go on a lot of podcasts, like, how do you miss Rogan's? And then there's like this weird, like, what is it? CBS or one of the channels is like highly edited. You know, they're careful by the qu. I don't think she can handle any questions. I think world lead is facing her would have eaten her to pieces. And that was the best you could bring to the table? Like, I'm open to people that are like strong leaders, like always on any side. I love to like, listen to somebody that can like, affirm their position, stand by it. And it's like, this is what I want.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah. I think, you know, as a younger person, a younger adult, you know, thinking about who you want to vote for, you go into the world thinking about sort of this personality that the leader of your country will have and it's, and it's something along the lines of the averages of who has been, you know, there's the George W. Bushes, there's the JF Kennedys, there's the, you know, the George Washingtons, which obviously we know nothing about personality, very little about personality wise, because there's no television and video recording of that. But that said, like, you know, as someone who sort of entered the voting world in the Obama era, you, you sort of have this mindset of like, okay, someone who is well spoken, it's someone who's confident, it's someone who's likable, and someone who's like, you know, genuine. Honestly, more than anything, that's something that I respect about Obama as a human. As a human right. A candidate is his genuinity. I don't know that I feel that directly from Trump, but I, I feel like with Kamala, there's this fake le, like level of fakeness where it's like she's, she's really trying to be genuine and it is like she's failing at it, like, because she's the opposite of that, whereas Trump is genuinely him. And it's not what I always expected as someone who was going to be our president, who was going to be, you know, a world leader. But when you compare the two personality wise, it's like, who do you want standing up for you, someone who is scared, someone who, who, who is, who kind of lies, who, who kind of, you know, shies away from the hard truths of what is her reality? Or do you want someone who says, yeah, maybe, like, may up, maybe I've been a bad person, but here's what I'm going to do that is good and is like really brave and strong about it?

[Co-Host]

Yeah, that's an interesting one. I mean, you know, I don't think it's unreasonable. And Joe said it before, like, you know, Obama was a good statesman, he was a strong statesman. He was what we expect a president to sound like. However, we really want a president to act like. And I don't think Obama did that. I don't think he backed it up with like, acting like it. Steve this podcast is brought to you.

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[Co-Host]

I think he spoke like it and that was great, but I don't think he acted like it. Yeah, from what I can tell, potentially.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah. I mean that's very.

[Co-Host]

It's just my opinion.

[Adam Thorne]

Oh, for sure. I mean, everyone is entitled to their opinion. And that's the great thing about living in a free country. Right? We get to, we get to make our own decisions.

[Co-Host]

Yeah. And we can be wrong.

[Adam Thorne]

We can be wrong. Yeah, we, we can feel right and we can be wrong. Right. Like, and there's, there shouldn't be any judgment there. 100 like, Obama sort of embodied for a lot of people what you said. Like, he was a statesman. He spoke well and When Trump sort of came onto the scene, it was like, who, who is this person that is like not a political person, like, who is not like a political careersman and yet in office he speaks to a lot of people. Like, he, he really gets a lot of people feeling confident in him and he hasn't had a history of it. Right? Yeah.

[Co-Host]

I mean, listen, Obama got out of power. He was in for eight years. And I would say, like the more impoverished areas, the south side of Chicago, you know, primarily, like poorer black neighborhoods didn't improve a lot. And that was the hope, the dream, and I wanted it to be true too.

[Adam Thorne]

Right.

[Co-Host]

And you know, forgive me if I'm wrong, but if your neighborhood improved greatly, like, yeah, power to you and good. And I want to hear about it, but I don't think it did. I don't think he focused on that.

[Adam Thorne]

Right.

[Co-Host]

And that's, that's heartbreaking.

[Adam Thorne]

Right.

[Co-Host]

You know, like to run on something like that.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah.

[Co-Host]

But anyway, yeah, so. So Dan Richards came on not to talk about this, but, but Joe had to cover it. And Dan is like, you know, not one of those pseudo archaeologists. He's. He's kind of more of a guy that. How would you describe him? Like, he's skeptical of a lot of the types of discoveries, like how the pyramids were built, how these stones were put together, all the rest of it. Yet he also is asking the question all the time, like, yeah, maybe it isn't this way that, you know, the ancient aliens crew is saying that's how it was built, but how the fuck was it put there? Like, what's going on? I don't believe mainstream archeology. I think it's older, I think it's different. What's the story, you know, and, you know, they, they get into it with the Ark of the Covenant, right. Which is, which is an interesting one because it's like Indiana Jones. It's, you know, the Bible, and they're saying it's in Ethiopia. It's in this old church, this super old church.

[Sponsor]

Where do you go from there?

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah, I genuinely, I genuinely don't know. Like, I mean, some of these concepts are a bit far, far reach for me. Like, I don't think about ancient ruins on a regular basis and I don't think about the control that is had over those and sort of like what that means for, for different cultures in different countries. What I found really interesting about this conversation and this topic in general was that they've found that priests who guard this Ark of the Covenant, excuse me, suffer from radiation poisoning and in the same vein, blindness. And sure, like, shorter lifespans and some of that. I wonder, like, is this coincidence due to, like, other environmental circumstances, or does this have to do with this ancient ruin and of itself?

[Co-Host]

Well, who is checking that?

[Adam Thorne]

I don't know.

[Co-Host]

Who is, like, going in there and being, like, you know, checking their radiation poisoning and their blindness?

[Adam Thorne]

Well, maybe nobody, but maybe they just.

[Co-Host]

Already picked a bunch of blind priests.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah. As I say, maybe there's a coincidence. Maybe these two priests that have been exposed to this have also been previously exposed to something else.

[Co-Host]

But I feel, I think that if people thought the Ark of the Covenant was in some Ethiopian church, I don't know how difficult it would be for some people to take it.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah, yeah. I don't know.

[Co-Host]

You know?

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah, I do know, but I don't know.

[Co-Host]

Well, look, if it was like a UFO landed.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah.

[Co-Host]

And we've talked about that on previous shows.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah.

[Co-Host]

They send in, you know, Blackhawk helicopters. They're going to scoop it up.

[Adam Thorne]

Right.

[Co-Host]

I feel like the Ark of the Covenant is, like, something people would investigate heavily.

[Adam Thorne]

So what you're saying is you think it's not real?

[Co-Host]

No. Well, yeah, I. I think nothing is there for sure.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah.

[Co-Host]

I think we could find out. I think somebody could walk by with. What do they call those things? A Gaia counter. Yeah, like, clicking away and be like, oh, wow, it's a lot of radiation over there. Maybe we should check that out. But.

[Adam Thorne]

Right.

[Co-Host]

I mean, how hard is that?

[Sponsor]

How.

[Co-Host]

What's the. What's the kind of security on this Ethiopian church?

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah, probably none. I mean, I. It.

[Co-Host]

It's a couple of blind priests. They're gonna be easy to trick. You just, like, throw a rock to their left and they're like, oh, it's over there. You just walk around, God bless them. They're doing their best. But.

[Adam Thorne]

Well, to be fair, I mean, Dan takes a really balanced approach in this realm. He's. He's into alternative history, you know, and I'd say that he's a skeptic. He called out a few theories that I would say don't hold up. You know, like the idea of ancient stone blocks producing electricity through P's piece of electricity. Am I saying that right? Piezoelectricity.

[Co-Host]

Piezo.

[Adam Thorne]

Piezo. Electricity.

[Co-Host]

That's a good note that you wrote down.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah.

[Co-Host]

Piezo.

[Adam Thorne]

Piezo. Piezoelectricity.

[Co-Host]

Yeah. That's an interesting spelling. I like. I like your notes sometimes.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah, my notes are really good. Yeah, they're really thorough.

[Co-Host]

Well, they're just hard to read. Yeah. I mean, look, Dan, you know, he's a skeptic. He challenges mainstream alternative narratives. He's also not, you know, jumping down the ancient aliens route to, you know, he doesn't just go, oh, yeah, they melted this together with some super technology. He doesn't pretend to know how things are working, but he questions it, which is great. And he does it. He does it like. Well, like he's respectful of other ideas, which is really how we can make sense of, you know, what is really happening. He can bring people in, chat with them, and even if they think completely different than he does, he can find just kind of like a middle ground. Like. Yeah, yeah. That doesn't really make sense. But I like where you coming from. Are you open to this? And that's really where the dialogue is breaking down, as far as I can tell, with, you know, archeology and the quote unquote, pseudo archaeologists.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah.

[Co-Host]

Is they're at war with each other.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah, yeah. I would say he, as a individual brings forward, like, especially on platforms like this. I mean, on his. On his pod, on his YouTube show, for sure. You know, both factual and just evidential information that challenges both narratives of, like, what is mainstream and what is alternative. And I think it's really natural for people to pick a side, you know, and to say, I. I just basically resonate with this opinion, like this, this viewpoint on this topic. This sort of supports my. My narrative. Right. Of like, what I find important, what I value, what I think is critical, and what is, like, you know, valuable. But I think people don't always search for true, like, actual evidence. There's just like. It's like they search for evidence that supports their narrative. And I think there's a real problem in that. And I've said this before, I'll say it again. There. There are three sides to every story. And, you know, finding the truth should always be the goal. Not substantiating your side of the story.

[Co-Host]

Yeah, yeah, for sure. And that. That's always the problem. It's like, are they open? Are they willing to listen? And do you need a PhD to have an opinion?

[Adam Thorne]

Right.

[Co-Host]

And who knows? Especially if there's a lot of pressure in that world to just follow the narrative. I mean, I think a lot of good PhD archeologists are shut down with their theories because they're not even given the space to, like, attempted. And it's, you know, they're all guessing really well.

[Adam Thorne]

That's what, like, funding for certain research projects comes into play. Right. Like, I mean, a lot of funding for research is looking for a specific answer from the research. A pacific support in. In hypothesis.

[Co-Host]

Are you saying pacific or specific?

[Adam Thorne]

Specific.

[Co-Host]

Oh, good. Specific, solid.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah, Right. Like, you know, projects that are, you know, or research initiatives that are looking to support or, you know, challenge some, some mindset over something like. Or some evidence. Like you can basically take scientific evidence in any, almost in any context to support one side or another.

[Co-Host]

That's where it gets scary.

[Adam Thorne]

Gets real scary. And we talked about that before.

[Co-Host]

Yeah, gets real scary. I mean, look, let's jump over to something that's a bit more exciting. The Mars anomalies. Okay, so we have what looks like the base of a pyramid on the Mars. Now this is not a new photo, folks. Okay, We've had this while. I say we, not me, but I don't know, NASA, I guess. And it looks like perfectly square. What would that be the base of a pyramid? Like, I don't know how long it would take for a pyramid to erode away. I assume the base would last the longest. What do we think? Is this really the sign of ancient construction? Is it bullshit? Is it like the face? I mean, the face is close to that. Where do we go from here?

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah, I think that's the question.

[Co-Host]

You know, land some shit, Elon. Get your robots out there, start walking around with your like humanoid robot things and just like dig it up.

[Adam Thorne]

I mean, it's hard. You know, you think about shadows and, and light reflection in general. Like sometimes there are weird anomalies that don't feel real. You know, the people are like, oh, I saw an angel, or oh, I saw this. And so it's. I find it hard to believe that like this like one or like very limited imaging that we have of Mars from this company is like specifically exhaustive, right? I guess not specific, but is exhaustive. And I, you know, I don't know, part of me feels like we've been here before. Like, we've speculated about shadows of things on Mars before and it like, wasn't really that big of a deal. I don't know. I don't know if you recall, but.

[Co-Host]

You mean the face?

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah, it was like this like, face that they found on Mars.

[Co-Host]

Yeah.

[Adam Thorne]

And it turned out to just be shadows playing tricks.

[Co-Host]

Well, on camera.

[Adam Thorne]

And we all kind of freaked out. We were like, oh my God, what is this? What is this? And it. And it really turned out to be nothing. And so I feel like with.

[Co-Host]

Maybe it is, though.

[Adam Thorne]

Well, maybe it is, but maybe it's Not, I don't know, I have such a hard time because sometimes, my God, I get really excited and I get super like, worked up and then I'm like, oh my gosh, like I have real life to think about and obviously I want to know about these like crazy far fetched possibilities and I want to be ahead, don't get me wrong, like, I want to know and I want to be expect, I want to be ahead of the normal like, expectation of what's happening. But I also, sometimes I feel like it takes me away from reality to think about things that are so far fetched and so like, like mind bending. You know, even when they talk about the pyramids on the, on Earth, they're like, but it's not possible, the physics of this and this. I'm like, I just like to think they're here, they're here and that's it. And I'm living this life and I'm doing my thing and I'm trying to get by every single day and you know, be a good wife, be a good mom, be a good daughter, be a good. All these things. And yet there's this like existential fear and crisis that I'm experiencing from like the external influence and the external information that comes in about things like this.

[Co-Host]

Yeah, I mean, look, a lot of people are busy, A lot of people can't break down, you know, all these different aspects of politics and you know, ancient history and the rest of it. I mean, I, I think that's where reading books comes in.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah.

[Co-Host]

You know, maybe it opens you up to like other things that are happening and, I don't know, each her own. Like, it's not for everyone, I guess.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah.

[Co-Host]

But you know, one of, one of the bigger things that Dan talked about that kind of hit me and was kind of shocking and I. Well, not kind of shocking, very shocking was when he was talking about the, like that controversy in South America where there's this archaeologist down there and he's doing work. People start reporting him as like some sort of CIA plant in like a government that's, you know, very volatile and you know, it's putting his life in danger over archaeology. Like what? I mean, look, I get it, you're passionate in your world, but like, why would you put someone's life at risk?

[Adam Thorne]

Well, yeah, I mean, what gets me is that like he's an, he's seeking the truth. Like he's not seeking misinformation, he's not seeking to like intentionally skew mindsets, opinions, preferences, one way or Another, he's, he's seeking the truth. And, you know, the thought that someone who is truly trying to better humankind and the knowledge that we, that we possess could be risking their life to do so, like, that feels really sad and scary. That being said, it's been part of human history for a long time. Anyone who challenges the status quo is always at risk. And Dan just seems to be someone who is like, it's worth it. You know, he's one of the few, he's a trailblazer. And we should be really grateful for people like this. I mean, as specific an individual as he is, his kind is really important to the future of our kind, you know, and for people that like us, like those who listen to Joe Rogan, who genuinely just seek the truth and are not looking for a one sided story, who want all the information, who want the truth about everything, like the truth seekers out there, you know, we, we're with you in solidarity, I guess, because it feels really hard to hear about people who are genuinely just looking for information, factual information, scientific evidence, and they're being told that, like, they're doing something wrong.

[Co-Host]

Yeah, yeah. What about the cocaine and mummies? Yeah, let's finish up with that.

[Adam Thorne]

I mean, this was another one that was, you know, it was like 40.

[Co-Host]

Minutes of the podcast.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah.

[Sponsor]

And it should be.

[Co-Host]

Yeah, it should be. How did cocaine get in a mummy?

[Adam Thorne]

I mean, at first made me laugh. You know, they talked about the poss. The. The fact that this had happened, that mummies were testing positive for cocaine. And then when they broke it down a little bit more, you started to like, kind of see the different, obviously speculation is the different hypothesis of how this happened. Yeah, Leave what you want. I'm sure there's a culmination of things that led to this. It's so funny to think about. I mean, everyone likes to go. Everyone likes to have a good time, including when they were alive, I guess.

[Co-Host]

Yeah. But I mean, I liked what Dan said. Like, you know, contamination makes sense. But like, also you have to ask yourself, who the fuck is doing cocaine over a month or even near a mummy? Like, the people, like, is this a thing in the world of like archaeology? I don't even know. Is it an archaeologist that like, you know, delves into a mummy? Is it, Is it? No, it's not a doctor. But like, who would, who would be like, sifting through mummy bones? Like, what job is that? And why are those people doing cocaine?

[Adam Thorne]

I just want to know how are they doing this unsupervised? I mean, like, how could they find a mummy?

[Co-Host]

You probably work at a museum.

[Adam Thorne]

Maybe.

[Co-Host]

It's like, I don't know what it takes to do that. You're a historian.

[Adam Thorne]

You're just like, let me just.

[Co-Host]

Historians doing cocaine.

[Adam Thorne]

Just one bump and then they do one bump and they spill it, and then they scrape up what they can and they put the mummy back, and then the next person is like, what the fuck?

[Co-Host]

They're talking about hair samples, though. Like, wouldn't it be in the hair, then?

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah.

[Co-Host]

Again, is it floating on top of the hair?

[Sponsor]

Can you wash the hair or is.

[Co-Host]

It, like, in the hair?

[Adam Thorne]

I don't know.

[Co-Host]

I don't know.

[Adam Thorne]

I wish I could be there. I wish I could be a part of it, because I want to know more.

[Co-Host]

I know.

[Adam Thorne]

I want to know how they justified declaring the mummies tested positive for cocaine.

[Co-Host]

Yeah. Last thing I want to hit on is, like, the Go Beckley Tepe stuff, the Bimini Road. Like, Dan talks about a lot of very ancient stuff that Joe is, you know, discussed many times. And it's like when we're. We're talking about the timeline. I mean, I remember being in College in, like, 2005, and, like, I didn't take archeology courses, but I took history, the rest of it. And. And it's like, oh, yeah, it was like, a little bit before the pyramids. We are in this place, right? It's like, just a little bit before the pyramids, everyone was a caveman, and that's because they just didn't have an answer. And now with gobekli tepe, like, 12, 13,000 years old, or 12, I don't know what it is. You know, we know shit is way older. So where, you know, why are they not adjusting?

[Sponsor]

Why is it.

[Co-Host]

Why are they so firm and held in. In, you know, their thinking? It's like, I don't think it helps archeology, and it's certainly not creating trust in people if they just hold on to this narrative. It's like, yeah, yeah, you got to hold your paradigm to, like, exist, your PhDs, the rest of it. But also you have to be flexible, right? I mean, I don't know. I love what Dan's doing. I love his approach. I think it's really effective. I hope that he comes on Rogan again. He just covers it all. Ancient mysteries, lost tech, cocaine, mummies, of course. And I think it's great. So check this episode out. It was solid. And we'll talk to you guys next week. Love you all later.