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Brandon
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Adam Thorne
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Brandon
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Brandon
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Adam Thorne
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Brandon
What a bizarre thing we've created now.
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Adam Thorne
With your host Adam Thorne first podcast. We're the best one one go.
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Brandon
Enjoy the show. Heavenly Father, we thank you for this blessed day and we hope you bless this elk, me and DMT we are about to consume. We thank you for the mighty Joe Rogan as well as the many guests you and him have blessed us over the years. Amen.
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Adam Thorne
Wonderful, wonderful stuff. Thank you, Brandon. Thanks for opening with that.
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Brandon
I'm feeling real religious.
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Adam Thorne
Well, I mean, you know, who's to say where pray goes? I mean it. I think you gotta speak from the heart. And with a Joe Rogan, it's like, yeah, I think that would be a Joe Rogan prayer. And he seems to be getting more religious. What do you think he is?
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Brandon
Yeah. And even admitted on. I forget if it was like a Protect our Parks or just like a Shane Gillis episode that he's been going to church. He's been going to church recently. He said he just likes being surrounded by happy people. And this might be the like dawn of a pretty interesting arc for Rogan because he was on the other end.
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Adam Thorne
Yeah.
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Brandon
Oh, for him, very like, you know, what was that guy? Richard Dawkins.
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Adam Thorne
Richard Dawkins, famous British atheist.
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Brandon
He was in that frame of thinking for a while, especially in early jre. Now it's like crazy. We had very like liberal atheist Rogan. Now we're getting a very conservative, wholesome religious man. And I find it to be a very interesting journey. And as a listener, it's just like so funny to see this. This transition.
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Adam Thorne
Yeah.
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Brandon
And this episode is like just Such a. A example of him getting into religion because, like, how much of this podcast was just talking about God and faith and sinning? Like, 80% of it. 75% of it.
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Adam Thorne
Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean, look, I think. I think it's a testament to not pandering to your audience, but not disrespecting them, even though a lot of them feel probably rejected or, you know, like, he's done a 180 because people are so locked into their ideals. Fair enough. But also, you know, it's not like you're chasing the audience. He's following his path, which, to be fair and give him some credit, it's got to be the most unusual path that a fucking human being has ever followed. So he's like, I can't make sense of this. I got thrown into this world. Now I'm thinking maybe there's something there. Like, this is a guy that more people have listened to ever in the history of humankind for whatever reason. And he's perfectly mockable in terms of the free kind of. He's not coming out like a Jordan Peterson. He's not trying to be a philosopher from the Greeks. He's just talking, and it just happens to be popular, which he did not plan right. He talks about it all the time. However, he still has the right to follow his journey. And I don't think he panders to the audience. He's not trying to upset people on purpose. He's just following what feels right as he gets older and, you know, am I getting more religious? Not necessarily, but I don't. I don't hate him for doing it. I'm just like, okay, cool, yeah, keep doing that. I mean, he's much older than me. He has way more experience in life and infinite opportunities with stuff. So I wasn't super surprised that he brought this guy on. And, man, was this Chad Wright a heavy religious episode.
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Brandon
Like, I really can't think of another JRE episode that was this heavily, like, pro religious. And you look at the comments and it's people saying, I cried 10 times during this episode. God is great. It's like, it's crazy, crazy to see these comments in a Jerry episode.
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Adam Thorne
Yeah.
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Brandon
You know, it's like, whoa, like, what is this turned into? And I'm really excited to see where this goes from here, because next week, are we going to be talking about, you know, Pastor Dave on the show?
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Adam Thorne
It's like, I know, what's. What's the evolution? Right? You know, or is it one of those things where He. You know, Rogan feels like he needs a. A refresh or a break. And he does another Protect our Parks. And they just talk about dicks for, you know, four hours. And he's like, all right, I'm feeling a bit shitty. Who knows?
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Brandon
Yeah.
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Adam Thorne
Who knows? But, right, we've got Chad from the Georgia mountains, right? Hunting, fishing. Sounds like a bit of a rough childhood, I would say. Joined the Navy post high school. Basically said that he was, like, never gonna make it. He had a cyst on his heart, you know, not.
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Brandon
That's why they. They let him into the. The seals, they're like, we can't with assists. So he got it removed. He got open heart surgery. Whoa. Just to become a Navy seal.
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Adam Thorne
Savage.
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Brandon
Insane.
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Adam Thorne
You got a year to recover.
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Brandon
Yeah, insane. Like, that's called motivation. Yeah, that's determination. If that isn't, I don't know what is.
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Adam Thorne
It's a lot. That's. That's too much, I would say. I mean, I never felt like I could get through a SEAL thing. I had no sis. And for him to be able to turn that around, I mean, look, that. Enough is a reason to come on the show. And then you add to that that, you know, he has this podcast. He's become religious. He throws that story down, but he speaks this honestly. I mean, honesty resonates with me always. I don't care what the story is. I don't care if you're Russian, you know, from Iraq, from wherever. You come on a podcast and you have a message and it's just your truth. It doesn't mean that I take on whatever you're thinking, but it resonates so much harder than if you're trying to sell me something. You know, if there's, like, an air of bullshit, it's. There was just something true about this guy that I really like.
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Brandon
And to build upon what you're saying, I've listened to past episodes with Navy SEALs and people that, you know, were involved with the military, and there's a lot of boasting, and rightfully so. You know what I mean? But with him, there was so, like. It was so humble, and he was so human, and there was no level of ego at all with him. None of it. Zero. You know, and he teaches these. These training camps, and he has a lot going for him, and he does a lot. And to hear him just be so humbling about everything he's done in life, where he has one of the most, like, badass origin stories when it comes to, like, becoming a Navy seal. And how it's kind of like this, like, kind of throwaway thing. Long story. But yeah, I did this and that happened and that and where it was like just more of his spiritual journey. That was the focus point for him, I find to be really interesting. And I think that's why this guest stands out compared to every other guest that's been involved with the seals or any kind of military officer is. This guy is coming from such a different and unique perspective. And for sure, religion has to do with it, because when you get so heavily involved with religion, you kind of live and breathe it, you know?
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Adam Thorne
Yeah.
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Brandon
But everything outside of that that was talked about, there was so much humility and just. It was just great. It was really refreshing to hear because it's like, these are people too. Like, he's just a dude at the end of the day, and it's cool to. To like, get that humanization of him of a Navy SEAL like that, you know?
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Adam Thorne
Yeah, I would say it's the most kind of regular guy humanizing. Because, look, if you're a pro athlete or if you're like a top 1 percenter, a big part of what gets you there is by trying to embody that message. Right? You've gotta be like, I can do it, even if you don't feel it. Right. It's like those people that never quit, which we were talking about before the party podcast, like, just saying, I've got this. I'm going somewhere. I believe it. And then this podcast is brought to you by hims. HIMS can't solve snoring or blanket stealing, but when it comes to performance, they've got you covered. Take control of ED with personalized treatments made with proven ingredients prescribed by licensed providers 100%. Online, through HIMS, you can access personalized prescription treatment options for ED, like Hard Mints and SexRx plus Climax Control. If prescribed, HIMS offers access to ED treatment options ranging from hard mints to trusted generics that cost 95% less than brand names if prescribed. To get simple online access to personalized affordable care for ED, hair loss, weight loss, and more, visit hims.comjre that's hims.comjre for your free online visit hims.comjre actual price will depend on product and subscription plan. Featured products include compounded drug products which the FDA does not approve or verify for safety, effectiveness, or quality. Prescription required CE website for details, restrictions, and important safety information. You earn it like he did. Navy Seals, let's be honest. Top 1%, maybe less. Top point 1%. Who knows? These guys are exceptional. He didn't seem to make a big deal about it at all. If anything, he was like, I was the last guy that should have made it. The last guy. Well, you come at me with that energy, I'm gonna listen to what you got to say. I wanna be involved, you know, I wanna hear this person out. Because you're right. So many of them, even at their best. Right, Jocko? Maybe it's unfair for Jocko. Cause I think he's a great guy. I think he represents this, that whole world. But look at him. He's made of bricks. You look at the size of this human being, and you're like, you can be as humble as you want, but you're three times the size of another human being. You were always meant to. His jaw looks like he can eat rocks. It's like he was just meant to do this.
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Brandon
Just eats jawbreakers for breakfast.
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Adam Thorne
Just smashes them down raw eggs and.
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Brandon
And. And, hey, like, rightfully so. They should be able to boast, you know, it's everything they've done. But at the same time, like, that ego can consume you a little bit, and it can become your entire personality of I'm this, I'm that. But it's like, who are you, actually? And. And this podcast was just such a great example of, like, someone who's completely stripped ego and is just a dude, you know? Like, he's living such a nice life. He's living in the mountains. He's hunting squirrel. I don't think I've ever wanted to try a raccoon more than after this episode. He made it. He made it seem so appetizing. Yeah. Throw in a crock pot. It's like, ah, maybe I want to try it, you know, and, like, squirrel and everything. It's like. It just seems so meditative where his life is. And it's so. Dude, what was so funny? I do want to bring this up. Literally, the first five minutes, he's like, yeah, man.
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Adam Thorne
The city is just.
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Brandon
It's like. It, like, burns my nose just being here, you know? And he's like, yeah, the.
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Adam Thorne
The whole.
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Brandon
The people in Austin, it's like, you know, animals have better lives than them, which is kind of like such a massive diss to Austin. And he's like. He's like, rogan, why don't you, like, leave?
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Adam Thorne
Yeah. Yeah.
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Brandon
He's like, why are you here?
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Adam Thorne
But it's such an honest observation, and it's funny. It's funny you're saying that because and you can speak to this. You were right there. You were right there.
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Brandon
I agree with him. I agree with him, though. And a lot of the people feel the same way. You know, we've talked about this off air, but, like, other comics have opened up about, like, yeah, Austin, you know, it's. It's not for everybody.
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Adam Thorne
Right.
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Brandon
You know, there's comics I know who. A comic I knew got jumped by homeless guy in Austin.
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Adam Thorne
Oh, no.
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Brandon
It's really like, as Bill Burrs said, like, they're Shutter island homeless people.
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Adam Thorne
Yeah.
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Brandon
You know, they're. They're a little dangerous. And as much as I love Austin, like, there's a lot of parts of it that definitely need to be improved, for sure. But it was so funny where, like, you know, right out of the gate was, like, swinging at that, and. And it just. It just seemed like it was honest. No one was hiding anything. Everything was kind of up front. I think, if anything, like, the religion stuff, Rogan was just polite and just let him talk and wasn't trying to correct him a whole lot on everything.
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Adam Thorne
Right.
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Brandon
But it just seemed like two dudes on the. On the porch, you know, sharing a. A cigar, just talking about life, philosophy, religion. Just, like, really interesting, you know?
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Adam Thorne
Yeah. I mean, like, he was. He was the podcast itself, and usually when we review it, we just kind of go in order of, like, the talking points. But I feel like he was jumping around because he went from Navy SEAL to full on religion, and then just to kind of circle back to these moments that were just weird for him. Right. So I wanted to hit on the barracks, haunting the ghosts in the barracks, which, you know, I think, in a way was the beginning. It wasn't just, like, his bad behavior, you know, because he was like, yeah, I was just living with these lesbians and being wild and being a lunatic and going to work. And then my gun went off, and I was under review. I feel like the barracks was, like, really where it started to feel weird for him. And what is your take on that? Because it kind of makes me. And I know some special Forces guys, like, they come on the POD sometimes, and I. I love chatting with them. You get such an interesting insight, but I'm just like. It seems strange that they would get, like. I don't want to say superstitious. That's not really it. But, like, feel haunted. Right. Because they're brave guys. They don't want to be like, oh, there was something weird in the toilets. I wouldn't imagine any of them would talk about this.
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Brandon
And it was such a. Interesting point of the episode because when people talk about how they got religious and he was going down that path, I was like, all right, it's gonna be aa. That's what it's going to be. He's totally going to say aa. I was not expecting this whatsoever. And it's interesting and to your point.
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Adam Thorne
Yeah.
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Brandon
It's like these guys are ready to go to war. They're ready to fight, they're ready to kill. But when it comes to a ghost, it's so far from our understanding of the world that it's fucking terrifying. You know, you can't see it, you can't kill it. Who knows what its capabilities are? And I've been in the situation where, like, I've been in a house and I hear footsteps, and you look and you're like, oh, yeah, no one. I'm home alone right now. And it's fudgeing. Terrifying. It's fucking terrifying. It's. It's in its, like, own realm of, like, fear.
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Adam Thorne
Yeah.
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Brandon
But the idea of, like, getting the pastor on the phone, going on speakerphone, getting the olive oil, and then it's gone the next day, I think maybe I would have just been like, you know what? Maybe I should go to church.
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Adam Thorne
Right?
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Brandon
That's insane. That's literal. Like, even what he's saying, he's like, whatever your beliefs are, there was a cause and effect here, and that has to mean something. You know, when it comes to this stuff, for me, I do believe the human mind's very powerful as well as, like, willpower. Like, willpower. Like, I think regardless of religion, like, when you will something to be, that is a lot of power on its own. And who has more, like, power like that than, like, a pastor than someone in religion? So even if all of this stuff, you know, even like, at an atheist angle, if you're, like, a little more spiritual, that is a possibility, in my opinion. But, like, I. I can't say I wouldn't maybe have. Have been like, I think I'm gonna check out this religion thing a little more if that happened to me. It's hard to put myself in that position, you know? And then the olive oil covering the whole fucking door the next day is crazy. And it's not that I. And like, I believe. I fully believe him that this happened because he's not someone that would, like, that seems like, who would lie about this shit, you know?
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Adam Thorne
Yeah. You know, maybe there's a thing. It's like, the power of belief in yourself or the power of Belief in just if you believe in yourself enough and then you see something weird, why wouldn't you then not dispute it? Right, Right. I mean, exactly what drove a guy that should have never been a Navy SEAL to the point of being a Navy seal? Maybe it's the same thing that's like, gave him a belief in. I saw something weird, so I believe this. And then who knows? You kind of like spread that to the rest of the team. Start asking questions. Everybody's like, yeah, I did hear a weird knocking sound yesterday. Okay, time for our weekly stand up comedy wrap up, Alex. I didn't get to any stage shows, but I did switch to T Mobile with their new family freedom offer. Okay, I'm waiting for the punchline. Well, my old phone bill with AT&T was a joke, so I'm doing a whole new bit with T Mobile. They paid off my family's four phones up to $3200 and gave us four new phones on the house. I got to work this into my routine.
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Adam Thorne
And then it just becomes its own. I don't want to, I don't want to diminish it, right? And say there was no ghost there or whatever. But, but that belief, like our human creative mind is, is like, it's a powerful source, dude.
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Brandon
Very. Yeah.
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Adam Thorne
Okay, so let me tell you one thing that happened to me when I was young. I went back to England after being in the US and I was like 14, 15, and I went back for the summer to see my dad who lived in England. And I fell out with him and my stepmom because we were not getting on at that time. I mean, I'm 15, dude. Imagine like you're a pain in the ass at 15. So I stayed at my mom's friend's house, Tessa. I was called her Aunt Tessa. She had this little cottage in this village. So I stayed out there and she said, oh, my son, who was like 10 years older than me, who I knew his name was Simon. Oh, he's probably Coming back tonight to the cottage so you can spend the weekend with him and. And that'll be fun for you. Anyway, that night, it was a crazy storm. It's crazy, dude. It was like, real heavy lightning. Like one of those, like, eerie lightning storms. And what was cool about this cottage, also eerie, is like all the doors were like, doors you'd find in a barn. They didn't, like, close all the way to the ground. You know, they had big gaps in. You could see the light underneath. It was just kind of like how the place was made. It was an old English house. And that night, I'm, like, going to bed, first night, and I hear all this, like, walking around up the stairs, doors open, up the stairs, light moving under the door. And I'm like, oh, Simon must be here. I wasn't even worried about it. It was in the middle of the storm. So I was just, like. I felt a bit comforted. Cause Simon was there. So I was like, all right, cool. And there was this one point where I couldn't sleep. I felt a bit kind of uncomfortable. And I went downstairs and the lights were all off. And the storm is just going outside. And I swear to this day, I saw someone at the end of the table. And my feeling was that it was Simon. And I was like, oh, Simon, you're here. Why are you in the dark? And he didn't say anything. And I was like, okay, well, I'm going to bed. Cause I was young, so I went to bed. I didn't really think anything of it. I just, like, actually was more comforted and went to sleep. In the morning, test calls, I go down, answer the phone, I'm like, hey. And I'm like, oh, no. I felt a lot better after the storm because Simon was here. And she goes, simon is not there. He's still in Oxford. He's the other side of the country, dude. I got a chill instantly. You know, when your hair goes up?
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Brandon
But it goosebumps, dude.
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Adam Thorne
But like, in a way to where I left the house and I left all my shit inside. I ran away like, a little scared, baby. Because I was terrified after that, because my mind was so sure now. The same as him, though. It's like, yeah, there was a lot of feeling. When I really think back on it. It was a long time ago. I don't really know if I saw anything clear. Maybe I was just tired. Maybe I just woke up in the middle of a storm, you know, And I just didn't pay attention to what was going on. But there was an energy behind it. And honestly, if I was religious, I didn't have, like a religious person to talk to. But if I was, yeah, I would have sprayed olive oil over the whole outside of that place. Dude, I didn't go back. I did not go back. I told my dad. I was like, I'm not going back there. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. We had a fight. I don't want to go there.
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Brandon
Like. Like, it's you. And you start to, like, you're saying, you start to try to, like, piece things together in your mind because it's like there's no explanation. It's like, I must be seeing things, right? Because I'm sure when I was a kid, I swore I saw shadowy figures, I saw shadows move in the house that, you know, no one's there. And it's like, now I think I'm pro. I probably was seeing something, right. But I've had a couple times where I was house sitting and the dogs are just barking at this one corner for no reason. Or like in the middle of the night, like, the dog will jump up and start barking at like, the ceiling or like just something random and that would keep happening. And it was like both. It wasn't like just the one dog. It was like the whole house with all the animals would focus on this one point. Like, they'd look down a hallway. And there was a time I was in college where I was like, you know, I had an old, old, old dorm. Top floor, red lights are on. We're sending to this bank called Electric Wizard. They're like a very evil doom metal band. We locked the door. All right. We heard the doorknob, like, move, jiggle. And then the door opened.
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Adam Thorne
The.
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Brandon
We. We went out. No one was on the floor. Not a single person was on that floor. It was locked from the inside. So to have opened, someone would have had to open it from the inside.
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Adam Thorne
We.
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Brandon
We put the lights on. We shut the music off. You know, we're. We're playing like spirit in the sky and like, religious stuff. We're like this man, you know. You know, praise Jesus and stuff. It's like there's that, like that. That you just can't explain. And you want to think like, that you're going crazy or, oh, I must have just thought something or maybe there was a draft in the. But it's like you. It's. I think there's a lot of things in this world that we just can't, like, can't comprehend or understand.
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Adam Thorne
Yeah.
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Brandon
And that's where religion plays into that. And there's many religions that have their own takes on these things we're talking about. But it makes a lot of sense for him to. To explore this. And, like, he's saying, what'd he say? Like, the day after he, like, fully accepted it, he had no appetite anymore for, like, any of these cravings of porn, of drinking. Like, all this stuff went away. And it's like, like, yeah, man, if that. If I was in that situation and I was battling all those demons that distracted me from my dream, and then I battle, literally my own personal demons. I beat my personal demons and a literal physical demon with one stroke. That's like religion like that, I think I'm gonna fucking commit. You know, if it was solved that fast for me, I think I would have commit if I was in his shoes. So, like, I understand. And for me, this is kind of a first because I've always been, you know, with religion. They were talking about, like, the. The mega pastors and. And, like, the colonization, the. The millions and millions of lives killed by religion. It's hard to, like, like, glorify it, for sure. And the pedophilia they were talking about. But, like, something like this, I totally understand and respect. I really do. And this is the first time where, like, I've heard someone like this talk about their religious journey and be like that. I actually find that real interesting. And I'm happy for you.
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Adam Thorne
Yeah.
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Brandon
And also, instead of thinking, like, you're brainwashed, you're fucking this or that.
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Adam Thorne
But also, I think an important aspect that we add to this is I don't think you and I are any more religious because of it. Right. So these messages are not actually dangerous. I feel like they're just hopeful in terms of. For this individual. It's like everyone is finding their own path out of something. For example, there are people on Instagram or YouTube that you and I could watch that, like, fill us full of hope and make us want to get somewhere. Right? And I'm like, yeah, this pumps me up. I know I send you some stuff sometimes, and you just like, you know, I throw it out there. I'm like, this is good. Check this out. I'm not trying to convert you to what the thing is. I'm just like, this pumps me up. I get excited about this. And in the same way, people send me stuff that sometimes I'm like, I don't know about that. But also, that seems like a pretty positive message. And that is an example of what he's saying in the religious terms that I actually appreciate because I'm, I'm like, I feel, I feel more hopeful after this message. But also like he said, I'm not going to change you with my words. He said that I'm not going to change you. I'm not going to turn you into something else. I'm not even requiring it. I'm just explaining my journey. And he seems like in a much better place than he was, which is like, do we not want that for people?
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Brandon
Right? And that's why all these, you know, alcoholics and people who go through AA like go to religion because it's like the easiest way to get through and it's like so famous. You just redefine your demons, your, your alcoholism as sin and then you read all the scripture and then figure, and then follow it and figure it out. You know, it's the oldest, literally the oldest way you can do it. And people do it and succeed, you know, and that's why religion is so heavily tied to things like that because. Let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.
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Adam Thorne
Honestly, Will, I didn't plan any trips, but I did switch to T Mobile with their new family freedom offer.
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Brandon
That's not the itinerary we're following.
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Adam Thorne
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Adam Thorne
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- [33:15]
Brandon
You know, again, just redefine your issues as sin and then read this and when it says you got to do this and sin is that and this is how you should treat it and then you do it and then you put it in practice and commit and turn into a ritual. And you're going to church and doing all this and the commitments there and you start to kind of like transform yourself and become very spiritual. It's going to change who you are entirely and you're, you're almost reborn out of that issue. It's, it's really interesting. There must be some like serious psychology on like why religion is so good for, for issues like that. But you know, maybe some people might be thinking, well, it's God, bro. You know, at the end of the day it's like, well, it's, it's like, you know, our, our Heavenly Father, of course it's, it's his magic, you know, but I don't know, it's something I just can't understand and hopefully will one day.
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Adam Thorne
But yeah, I mean, it's interesting to ponder and look, man, I mean, it's hard to argue against when the majority of the whole world and all of existence is like gone towards religion. I mean, yeah, I guess you could be the crowd that I grew up with in England and like a lot of European countries, especially like Germany or like the more non religious ones that are just like, yeah, this is the old way of thinking and it's dumb. And now we believe in logic and democracy. And I'm like, all right, easy. How about democracy? And most of our political parties are pieces of shit too, so don't make that your new religion. Because that's a lot of what I saw growing up in England from my non religious family, which I was a part of. I mean, you know, and a lot of people in England have just kind of like, they're not really into the Church of England. They just do their thing. Politics became their new religion and I'm like, I, I don't think you escape a religion. You just choose in something. Now you may, may change the definition of it maybe a bit, but it's like there's, there's no doubt that like politics becomes religion for people.
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Brandon
There's a lot of similarities for sure, a lot of similarities. And we can even talk about these mega pastors that they were talking about too.
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Adam Thorne
Oh yeah.
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Brandon
And it's like they're, they, they're practically politicians, you know, they're following the devotion. They're telling them how to, how to you should act, who should be, and that's their whole job.
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Adam Thorne
What's that guy's name? Joel Osteen? Yeah.
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Brandon
Are you talking about Kenneth Copeland, that's, like, the big guy. That's a guy who's, like, worth 760 million, and he has that whole thing where he's like, I gotta fly private. Because God told me, oh, he looks like a.
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Adam Thorne
He looks like a demon.
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Brandon
He looks like. Like a. Literally. Like Satan.
- [36:30]
Adam Thorne
Yeah. Like, he literally looks like he's just missing the horns. And he's not red, but he has everything else. Everything else, I would say Joel Osteen. I'm looking at a picture of him right now. I don't care for his eyes.
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Brandon
They.
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Adam Thorne
They look. They look not good in terms of, like. I don't want to be too mean, but, like, demonic, maybe, but he looks friendlier. He looks kind of like a banker. He could be a banker.
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Brandon
A different kind of evil.
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Adam Thorne
Yeah. Yeah. But let's look at his net worth. I bet it's off the charts. What do you think?
- [37:10]
Brandon
I'm going to say throw it out there.
- [37:12]
Adam Thorne
Come on.
- [37:14]
Brandon
300 mil.
- [37:16]
Adam Thorne
Hundred.
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Brandon
Hundred mil.
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Adam Thorne
Lower. Well, it's. Yeah, it's tough to get over the hundred mil mark, but, yeah, Speak engagements. He commands fees of 100 to 200,000. Yeah. How old is he?
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Brandon
Yeah. Jesus was all about capitalism, you know?
- [37:36]
Adam Thorne
Oh, dude. Jesus's speaking engagements were big money back in the day. Like, 14 donkeys. And I don't know what he charged, but big money.
- [37:49]
Brandon
Signed Bibles, you know?
- [37:51]
Adam Thorne
Yeah, that's it. 62. Talking about people that sign bibles.
- [37:56]
Brandon
You'd sell personal wine glasses, you know.
- [37:59]
Adam Thorne
I bought a Doug Stanhope signed bible once at a comedy show that he put on. So Doug used to only ever stay in motels, and then he would always go to Goodwill and buy suits in the local town, and he would wear them perform, which is so beautifully dug. But he would also steal all the bibles from the motels, and he would sign them, and you could buy them, and I bought one of those.
- [38:33]
Brandon
I still need to get my own. When I saw it was during COVID and he didn't have, like, a merch stand or anything. I want to get my hands on one eventually. I'm not sure if you saw recently, he was raiding some bibles, and he opened up a drawer, and there was a fucking revolver. Someone left their revolver, like, in that little side cubby.
- [38:53]
Adam Thorne
Oh, geez.
- [38:54]
Brandon
You know where you find the Bible? Someone left their gun, and he's like, holy shit. You know, it's. He should have signed it and sold it at the show. Chaylee could sign the bullets, you know, but. Oh, Doug's great.
- [39:12]
Adam Thorne
Doug's the best.
- [39:12]
Brandon
Doug's fucking awesome.
- [39:13]
Adam Thorne
Shout out to Doug. And also, it sounds like you and I go into a Doug show eventually and you getting a Bible. We're gonna. Yes, we do it for the pod.
- [39:23]
Brandon
I've drank with Doug, too. He's great. Fucking guy.
- [39:26]
Adam Thorne
Oh, no shit. Really? That's fucking.
- [39:28]
Brandon
I never told you. Yeah, we did shots in Worcester. Love that.
- [39:31]
Adam Thorne
Love that. I did. I did shots with Joey Diaz once.
- [39:35]
Brandon
Nice.
- [39:36]
Adam Thorne
Ari was there, but that's fucking sweet.
- [39:39]
Brandon
Yeah, you told me.
- [39:40]
Adam Thorne
Ari was real tired and he. He was not feeling it. He was like, fuck, New Mexico. This place sucks. I want to go. I didn't push him. I was like, all right, all good. Thanks. Nice to meet you. He shook my hand. He was nice to me. But when we got to Joey, I said, joey, is it weird if I buy you a shot? And he goes, no one's fucking giving me. Offered me a shot tonight. And I'm like, oh, what? Get over here. And. Yeah. That was a good moment, dude. That was beautiful.
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Brandon
Awesome.
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Adam Thorne
Yeah.
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Brandon
Priceless memories.
- [40:12]
Adam Thorne
Anyway, I think. I think that's it for this guy. But Chad was interesting, man. I mean, obviously Rogan's kind of leaning in that direction. Like you said. We'll see if the pod starts to get this spiritual aspect, but I think Rogan's asking some questions. He's trying to figure it out, and to be fair, he's trying to figure it out through the lens of people that he seems to be connecting with, which often are Special Forces guys. You know, he's like, hey, you're a tough guy. You've seen it all. What made you go from not being religious at all to something else? What was your journey? Obviously, this guy's journey wasn't like, psychedelic or anything that Rogan took, but I think he's just asking questions to try and make sense of where he's at. I like that. Yeah.
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Brandon
I think Joe might be going through something. And, you know, with. There's a lot of drama, you know, with politics and everything. And all these religion guys are. All these religious guys are like, hey, man, I'm happy. You know, I'm happy, and it's easy. This is all I do. And he's like, you know what? I have not tried this, and I think it's time. So.
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Adam Thorne
Right.
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Brandon
You know, maybe next month he'll have the Pope on and we'll talk about that.
- [41:24]
Adam Thorne
I love that so much. Thank you, Brandon, as always, and pleasure everyone else. We'll talk to you guys next week. Love you. Cheers from the Cascades to PDX to your kitchen. We recycle like we live here. That's why governments, brands, and recycling companies are all joining together to bring change to make recycling better. As in trusting that your recyclables end up in the right places to be made into new things and having brands help fund the cost of recycling. You can find the Latest updates at recycleon.org Oregon From Mount Hood to the bin under your desk, together we can do this.