461 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Rep. Anna Paulina Luna

Summary

Joe Rogan Experience Review Podcast: Episode 461

Review of Rep. Anna Paulina Luna on JRE

Release Date: August 23, 2025
Hosts: Adam Thorne + Brandon
Summary Prepared By: Podcast Summarizer

---

Overview

In this episode, Adam and Brandon break down Joe Rogan’s conversation with U.S. Representative Anna Paulina Luna. The review is a mix of irreverent humor and pointed analysis, focusing on Luna's public persona, her unique background, her claims about government secrets (especially regarding aliens and interdimensional beings), and the political intrigue surrounding figures like Epstein. The episode frequently circles themes of conspiracy, media distraction, government disclosure, and the ongoing question of transparency in both politics and the Joe Rogan Experience itself.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Rep. Anna Paulina Luna’s Persona and Background

• Attractiveness and Public Perception:

  • The hosts begin with unfiltered commentary on Luna's appearance, her past as a swimsuit model, and her previous jobs as a cocktail waitress and Air Force veteran.
    • “With all due respect to her...she’s tackling the government. She’s uncovering stuff. And not bad to look at. Solid.” (01:40, Adam)
    • “She was so hot, I forgot about the Epstein list, personally. I was stunned by her beauty.” (01:55, Brandon)

• Unconventional Political Journey:

  • Contrast made between traditional, “boring” political career paths and Luna’s non-traditional, colorful background.
    • “Politicians used to have like the most boring fucking origins...now they’re just like, yeah, I was cocktail waitress...now I am probing up the ass of the CIA...” (04:10, Brandon)

2. Conspiracies, Distraction, and the Role of Media

• Epstein as Elephant in the Room:

  • Discussion over whether Luna’s appearance, and focus on aliens, is a distraction from the Epstein scandal.
    • “Do you think this is a cover up?...Distraction is a better word.” (05:05, Brandon)
    • “How funny is it that the only time Epstein's name was brought up...was in the context of her saying, this isn't a distraction from the Epstein stuff.” (05:57, Brandon)

• Government Secrets and UFOs:

  • Skepticism about the government’s motivations and the authenticity of Congressional disclosures on UFOs and “interdimensional beings.”
    • “Are there aliens? What's classified? What does the government know that we don't?” (07:35, Adam)
    • “Do we have interdimensional tech...it seems like we do. It's like blue balling us.” (12:18, Brandon)

3. Big Themes in Luna’s Claims on JRE

• Vagueness and Breadcrumbs:

  • Critique of Luna’s non-specific answers; she references classified information and interdimensional beings, but provides no concrete evidence.
    • “I’m back and forth whether this is like an insane, groundbreaking episode...or just a distraction, just some bs.” (08:27, Brandon)

• Comparisons to Alex Jones:

  • Linking Luna’s talk about interdimensional beings to previous Alex Jones appearances on JRE.
    • “What this episode made me do is revisit the Alex Jones episode where he's like, Joe, so what it is, it's interdimensional aliens.” (13:37, Brandon)
    • “Alex Jones talked about that like 2,000 fucking, like one. Yeah, it’s crazy.” (14:18, Brandon)

4. Philosophical Ramblings: DMT, Simulation, and Perception

• Psychedelic Experiences:

  • Drawing connections between the interdimensional themes and DMT/other psychedelics; comments on whether these altered states access “real” alternate dimensions.
    • “Are these DMT creatures a part of my imagination? Or am I tapping into something that's real?” (21:53, Adam)
    • “Joe's talked about it too. It, like, feels more real than real life, which is...strange.” (22:32, Brandon)

• Simulation Theory:

  • Noting how frequently the show gets messages from people convinced life is a simulation and wants Joe to know.
    • “Of the 50 to 80 emails we get a day, 20%...are just, like, trying to tell Joe about the simulation theory. People are hooked on this.” (25:36, Adam)

5. Meta-Analysis: Joe Rogan’s Interview Style

• Softball Questions to Attractive or High-profile Guests:

  • The hosts discuss how Joe often gives easier interviews to certain guests, especially attractive women or high-profile figures.
    • “It’s unusual, though, that Joe just kind of had her say her spiel and didn’t push back.” (31:16, Adam)
    • “If someone's that hot and they're sitting in front of you, you don't want to stress them out...there was like, I was waiting for the moment where Rogan's like...you just have great. Cans. Plans. Plans as well. Cans.” (30:42, Brandon, joking)

• Comparison With Past Guests:

  • Rogan pushes back more with some guests (e.g., Bernie Sanders, Mike Baker) than with Luna.
    • “He respects Bernie a lot. But he did push back on a few things...when he leaves it out...with Anna, it doesn't push back.” (32:41, Adam)

• Letting the Audience Decide:

  • Suggests Rogan prefers to let his audience interpret, rather than confronting or grilling guests.
    • “He’s not agreeing, but he's like, the audience will make their own decision. Which I'm not sure how I feel about that approach...” (33:32, Brandon)

6. Insider Trading and Political Corruption

• Luna’s Stance Against Insider Trading:
  • Hosts praise Luna for being unsupportive of Congressional insider trading, although they remain cynical about how much this changes the system.
    • “You got to respect her for not being a part of it and saying no. I hope more representatives do...” (38:49, Adam)
    • Discussion of an app (Autopilot/Pelosi Tracker) that lets anyone follow trades of politicians.
      • “I've never been under, like, 32% on it. I’m not kidding. Anyone can use this app.” (39:37, Adam)

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Distracting from Epstein:
  “How funny is it that the only time Epstein's name was brought up...was in the context of her saying, this isn't a distraction from the Epstein stuff.”
  — Brandon, 05:57

• On Lack of Substance in Government Disclosure:
  “You can easily move away from this and be like, holy shit, they’re on top of all of it. This is crazy. Or...well, you didn’t really give us anything truthful. You...alluded to some stuff and then, what are we supposed—where do we go from here?”
  — Adam, 10:25

• On Exasperation With Conspiracies:
  “How many podcasts do I need to listen to that say this shit? And then nothing changes and we get no proof.”
  — Adam, 10:25

• On the Interdimensional “Blue Ball”:
  “It’s like blue balling us...I’m going to let you assume that we have this by how I'm wording it, but that's all you're ever going to get.”
  — Brandon, 12:18

• On the Reality of Disclosure:
  “If aliens come down tomorrow, people will be like, well, you know, they're probably demons or something...People are so divided today...Nothing will ever be, like, fully agreed on, I think, no matter how obviously real it looks.”
  — Brandon, 17:37

• On DMT and Other Realities:
  “Are these DMT creatures a part of my imagination? Or am I tapping into something that's real? Am I looking through, like, this interdimensional telescope when I take certain substances? It's crazy.”
  — Adam, 21:53

• On Joe’s Interview Style With Attractive Guests:
  “If someone's that hot and they're sitting in front of you, you're not gonna like...you don't want to stress them out or make them feel like you have a hard time.”
  — Brandon, 30:42

• On Softball Interviewing and Access:
  “It was mostly softball questions...he could have drilled on Epstein stuff. However...it will stop more and more of those sorts of representatives coming on the pod because they're just like, you know, he's just going to grill us on this one thing we're not allowed to talk about.”
  — Adam, 36:37

---

Timestamps for Major Segments

| Timestamp | Content | |:-------------:|:-----------------------------------------------------| | 01:14 | Introduction of show/hosts Adam & Brandon | | 01:29–04:32 | Rep. Luna’s background, public persona, & origins | | 05:05–07:17 | Is the alien talk a distraction from Epstein? | | 08:27–10:25 | Skepticism about Luna’s vague claims & Zeitgeist ref. | | 12:18–15:34 | Interdimensional beings, comparisons to Alex Jones | | 17:37–19:40 | Religion, aliens, and belief in the modern world | | 21:53–25:29 | DMT, simulation theory, psychedelic experiences | | 30:42–33:32 | Rogan's interview style, especially with women | | 38:49–42:53 | Insider trading, Pelosi tracker app | | 44:02–45:55 | Final impressions, episode scoring, closing remarks |

---

Final Thoughts & Overall Evaluation

• The hosts are equal parts entertained and skeptical, praising Luna’s charisma and outsider journey while openly questioning the substance and significance of her claims.
• There’s an undercurrent of frustration: with the drip-feed of conspiratorial information, the inability to get real answers, and with the easy, sometimes softball approach Rogan takes with certain guests.
• The insider trading discussion near the end was seen as practical, concrete, and actually useful, in contrast to the more vaporous alien talk.
• Ultimately, the episode is “old school good” for Rogan fans, offering big ideas and bigger questions, but possibly little in terms of hard new information.

“If I was to rank it, I think I’m gonna give it, like, a 7 out of 10...but I think we can both, like, agree that she’s a 10 out of 10.” — Brandon & Adam, 45:55

---

Closing Tone: Playful, irreverent, and torn between conspiracy-curiosity and a yearning for actual answers.
Recommended For: Rogan fans who enjoy wild speculation, cultural commentary, media meta-analysis, and the ongoing drama of transparency (or lack thereof) in politics and podcasting.

Transcript

[A]

Attention sports enthusiasts. Keep the adrenaline pumping and elevate your game day with Chumba Casino. It's completely free to play, no purchase necessary. Whether you're cheering from the stands, on the move or relaxing at home, Chumba Casino brings the thrill of social casino directly to your fingertips. Experience the ultimate social casino adventure with reels of casino style games offering hundreds of exciting options to choose from and fresh new releases every week. There's always something new and thrilling to explore. From action packed social slots and classic blackjack, to engaging bingo and solitaire, the fun never stops. Plus, enjoy generous daily login bonuses and a fantastic free welcome bonus to kickstart your social gaming journey. Dive into the excitement. Discover a world where you can play for your chance to redeem some serious prizes and have a blast along the way. Don't miss out. What are you waiting for? Join now and immerse yourself in non stop fun and adventure with Chumba Casino. Get in on the action [e-mail] and make every day a Chamba Day. No purchase necessary. VGW Group void war prohibited by law 18 + DNC supply.

[B]

You're listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review.

[C]

What a bizarre, bizarre thing we've created.

[B]

Now with your host, Adam Thorne.

[C]

This might either be the worst podcast.

[B]

Or the best one. One go.

[C]

Enjoy the show.

[B]

Hey guys, and welcome to another episode of the Joe Rogan Experience Review. My name's Adam. Being joined by Brandon. Good to have you here.

[C]

Great being back. And then we have a fun episode to talk about this week.

[B]

A really fun one. Good choice. By the way, Representative Anna Paulina Luna.

[C]

Beautiful name.

[B]

Yes. By the way, beautiful lady.

[C]

As beautiful as her eyes.

[B]

With all due respect to her, you know, I don't want to just be like, oh, that's a hottie. But you got to give it to her, right? She's tackling the government. She's uncovering stuff. And not bad to look at. Solid.

[C]

Like, she was so hot. I forgot about the Epstein list, personally. Like, I was stunned by her beauty. I was like, what's going on? You know, she's hot. That's all I know now. That's why it's stunning. It's crazy. I think this might have been the one episode of like the past few months where the YouTube streams are higher than like the Spotify ones because damn.

[B]

Yeah, no doubt. God bless her.

[C]

Allegedly, she has seven photos on the Internet and a, like a swimsuit. She was a swimsuit model also.

[B]

Sweet.

[C]

There's a. There's a photo of her, like crawling on the beach with her, like her, her ass up. Allegedly, from what I've heard. Yeah, allegedly.

[B]

You know, definitely didn't print that out, did you?

[C]

I. I totally don't have like a six foot poster above my bed, you know, but. But it's like, it's like he does love those representatives.

[B]

He does love him. He's got Bernie up there. He's got, he's got some classics.

[C]

I definitely have something to represent my love for her, but. So what's crazy about her is, like, she was a fucking cocktail waitress at like a strip club too.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

And then, you know, she became a. A vet. You know, she joined the military. She's an Air Force veteran.

[B]

Nice.

[C]

And then became a. I'm trying to.

[B]

Thank you for your service in both those jobs.

[C]

For sure.

[B]

Both those jobs.

[C]

Right. And also a swimsuit model where famously, I think the big one is like that one piece, that maga. One piece she was in, but. And now the shit she's talking about, the clearance she has. It's crazy. Yeah. Politicians used to have like the. The most boring fucking origins, right? The most boring fucking origins.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I went to law school.

[B]

I was the debate club champion. I never drank. And then now I'm a politician now.

[C]

It's like, opened.

[B]

I opened a mall. And you're like, oh, okay, I guess that's what politicians do. And now they're just like, yeah, I was cocktail waitress in a swimsuit. Ish. Model. And now for some reason, I am probing up the ass of the CIA to get information on aliens and jfk. You're like, wait, what? We're doing this now?

[C]

Exactly, exactly. It's like, in 30 years it's gonna be like, wait, the politician wasn't like an onlyfans model in the beginning? Like, I don't understand how that works now. It's. It's a lot different. And the things she was saying on this podcast were just like, whoa. And before we get into all this, I just want to like, ask you, do you think, like, let's just get this out of the way. Do you think this is a cover up? Because this is some very convenient information at a very convenient time, if that makes sense.

[B]

Do you mean a cover up or a distraction from.

[C]

Distraction is a better word.

[B]

Negative news. I mean, you know, it's kind of leaning into the conspiracy side again. That, that we were all pumped. All the, the people that were behind Trump were pumped that he was going to bring out some big conspiracy news. Right.

[C]

Drain the swamp.

[B]

Yep. After the Epstein Thing recently, he's, like, lost that energy. So they send her out maybe to be like, hey, we're still looking at conspiracies, man. We're looking at. We're looking at all the weird stuff. We're still delving in. We're still gonna break it all down. Just stop thinking about Epstein maybe. Dude. How funny. I wouldn't put anything past him.

[C]

I agree. How funny is it that the only time Epstein's name was brought up was. Which was one time, was in the context of her saying, this isn't a distraction from the Epstein stuff. That's the only time it was brought up.

[B]

Which, to be fair, would be the thing you would say if you were the most obvious person trying to cover that up.

[C]

And she's tweeting about it on X and making a lot of public statements about it, but when she's on the biggest podcast in the world, it's like, I don't know. It's just so interesting because Joe was even saying, this is the line in the sand. Maybe one of the biggest, like, in terms of, like, just things that happen that, like. Like, what? This is the. The biggest child sex trafficking ring that's not a conspiracy. They're. They're putting kids on an island. This is some serious shit.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

This isn't a fucking Diddy party.

[B]

No.

[C]

And even Rogan himself said, this is the line in the sand. And if you're going to ask about Epstein, this is a perfect person to ask some questions to. Hey, what's going on with it? Where are we at? What's it looking like?

[B]

Yeah. And.

[C]

And there was nothing. He didn't bring it up once.

[B]

I don't know what to think about this right now, which I don't know.

[C]

Me neither.

[B]

It does seem very Joe Rogan, like, honestly.

[C]

Right, exactly. Because the line of guests as well, it's been with Mike Baker, Cash Patel. Everything seems like, hey, look over here, look over here instead, you know, it's interdimensional aliens. Which is crazy, because I'm a big fan of that. Like, I guess you can call it a conspiracy on aliens. Are there aliens? What's going on there? What's classified? What does the government know that we don't? And it's like, fuck. Do, do. Does it take politicians being pedophiles for us to get this information? It's, like, crazy to me.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And Joe Rogan was talking about on this show how it's like. It's crazy how, you know, we're not stupid. We can take this information And I agree 100%, but it seems like the government has some, like, strict rules with what they want to classify.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I don't know, like, this whole thing, like, she was so vague. I. I'm back and forth whether this is like an insane, groundbreaking episode, like, insane, groundbreaking, or just a distraction, just some bs. Because interdimensional beings, that could mean so many things, Joe. Like, you know, I. Listen, man, I've. I've seen some interdimensional beings myself in college. All right? Like, I've. I'm a Pink Floyd fan. All right. I. I like. It could mean many things. It really can. But what is your, like, whole opinion on that?

[B]

Dude, I think I'm with you. I mean, at the end of the day, this one is. It's almost like. I won't say Bob Lazar esque, but it's like, this is someone in the government that's legitimate that says they have this access, which I believe that they do. And they're like, yeah, I got this close to this and I saw this, but I can't talk about this. And it's just. It almost. Did you ever watch that documentary way back in the day called Zeitgeist that was like, dude, it was like early 2010, when Netflix was brave as fuck about the wacky documentaries that they would put on. And it really kicked off, like, this whole documentary, you know, world through Netflix, where they were, like, trying everything but they used to be brave. And Zeitgeist was nuts, dude. It, like, turned all your paradigms upside down. It was like, religion's bullshit. They're all the same. There's always, like, a sun God that all these stories are similar. And then, I don't know, oil companies rule the world and it's all evil, right? It just had this, like, arc of, like, madness that was, like, put together well enough to where you come away from it wanting to tell everyone about it with zero proof.

[C]

I'm gonna have to check that out after this.

[B]

And that's what this kind of sounded like. It was like, you could easily move away from this and be like, holy shit, they're on top of all of it. This is crazy. Or you could be like, well, you didn't really give us anything truthful. You, like, alluded to some stuff and then, what are we supposed. Where do we go from here? Like, how many podcasts do I need to listen to that? Say this shit? And then nothing changes and we get no proof. This podcast is brought to you by hims. Hims can't Solve snoring or blanket stealing, but. But when it comes to performance, they've got you covered. Take control of ED with personalized treatments made with proven ingredients prescribed by licensed providers 100% online. Through HIMS, you can access personalized prescription treatment options for ED like Hard Mints and SexRx plus Climax Control. If prescribed, HIMS offers access to ED treatment options ranging from hard mints to trusted generics that cost 95% less than than brand names if prescribed. To get simple online access to personalized affordable care for ED, hair loss, weight loss, and more, visit hims.comjre that's hims.comjre for your free online visit hims.comjrer actual price will depend on product and subscription plan. Featured products include compounded drug products which the FDA does not approve or verify for safety, effectiveness, or quality. Prescription required. See website for details, restrictions and important safety information.

[C]

Exactly. You know, it's like, it's. It feels like we're taking one small step down like a fucking million mile road. It's crazy. It's like, yeah, there's. I think there are interdimensional beings from what I've seen. And these are. These are some classified things, and I can't really tell you anything at all, but I do think they're interdimensional beings. Are there interdimensional crafts from what I've seen? Probably. Do we have interdimensional tech? Like tech from aliens? It seems like we do. Like, it's like, right? It's so funny. It's like blue balling us. It's like, we might. We kind of might. I think we do. We probably do. And you. You can. I'm going to let you assume that we have this by how I'm wording it, but that's all you're ever going to get. But if this whole Epstein thing, like, heats up again, I'll maybe talk about a picture I saw. It's like we're getting breadcrumb. We're getting, like, nothing. Yeah, but at the same time, if she's right and this whole interdimensional thing's true, it's crazy because what this episode made me do is revisit the Alex Jones episode where he's like, joe, so what it is, it's. It's interdimensional aliens. That's what they are, Joe. And there's these planes. It's like, holy. And. And I'm hearing him talk about this, I'm like, something's. Something might be lining up there because that Was this whole thing, there's. They're interdimensional aliens, Joe. You don't understand. They're interdimensional. It's like, that's a bunch of. And then you're hearing her come on and talk about interdimensional fucking beings.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And it's like, oh, fuck, maybe I gotta listen to this whole Alex Jones episode again with Eddie Bravo. Because it's like, does he know something that even she doesn't? Because it's just so funny how, dude.

[B]

He predicted 9, 11.

[C]

A couple times. Exactly. We've had this conversation a couple times where something's brought up on the podcast and everyone's like, wow, that's crazy. And we go, holy. Alex Jones talked about that like 2,000 fucking, like one. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy.

[B]

But what, you know, what does this mean, right? It's like, how many people know about this? You know, all these, like, super rich elites or the New World Order or the fucking Illuminati or whoever's, you know, in. In the world of conspiracy, who's running things? Like, we have all these groups. Are they, like, tied in with them? Are they slaves to them? Are they barely even sure how to interact with them at all? And what, like, honestly, what the fuck are we supposed to make of this? You know? How would that change anything? Anyway? It's just like, we still got to go to work tomorrow, buddy. You know, I say this often on there, but it's like, I don't think we'd be as shocked as you would think. Like, it's almost like the UFO lands on the White House lawn and everyone just loses their minds, I think, for a minute. I mean, it's good television. We talk about it and then sell.

[C]

A couple shirts, you know?

[B]

Right? And then we're back at the brewery just being. Meeting up with our buddies, going, okay, that was fucked. So what you doing tomorrow? You doing playing golf and then just crack on from there. Exactly. But interdimensional, like, okay, so they're not even from, like, far away. They would just hear the whole time on different dimensions. Why are they even fucking with us at all then? Why do they care?

[C]

And that Alex Jones episode I did watch, he's like, there's like eight planes of dimensions. I'm going to butcher this. But he's like, you know, they're trying to get to us because we're the only one that has free will, and they're trying to get into us and control us. I feel like whatever the truth is, it's in that realm of fucking complex. It's in that realm of when we get into the layers of dimensions. Even what she was saying about. Yeah, it's like if you were to drop off a cell phone at caveman time. So she was talking about when it comes to this technology, which. How the fuck. Like, where do you get technology from? Yeah, because that's like, a whole line of questioning, too. Did it. Did something crash? Did something just pop up? Do we have. There's that whole, like, conspiracy that in, like, the 40s, the U.S. government made, like, a pact with the grays that, you know, the aliens will give us certain technology if they can just abduct a couple people. Whatever. There's that shit, too. There's a lot of things to think about, and I feel like this episode asks more questions than answers, you know? And to your point of talking about, like, why don't you just tell us? I think that's because of what she was talking about here. It's like, well, there's religion, which. There can be some. You know, some conflict and people might go crazy and everything, but I think we can handle it. I don't think people give a. If aliens come down tomorrow, people will be like, well, you know, they're probably demons or something. People. People are so divided today where there can be aliens on the. The White House, and people are like, Project Bluebeam. That's. That's a projection. That's not real. Nothing will ever be, like, fully agreed on, I think, no matter how obviously real it looks.

[B]

The religious element to this is interesting. And Tucker's talked about it. He's like, you know, these aliens are demons or they're angels or. And, you know, maybe in the context of, like, where that story could have come from originally, it would have been from something that looked wild. A chariot in the sky just flying over. It's like, yeah, of course you would call it a chariot in the sky if the only transportation you have was a chariot. Like, if we didn't have planes and we saw a ufo, we'd be like, oh, the Uber in the sky. We wouldn't have other words for it. Right?

[C]

Yeah. So the bird scooter in the sky.

[B]

Exactly. So, you know, you've got the chariot in the skies type stories, and it's like, oh, they're angels and demons. And. Because the concept of what an alien is. I don't know when that was kind of invented, but probably when we saw more planets and maybe they all line up, it's like, yeah, it's not really an angel or a demon it was that we didn't have words for it. And it's just whatever this thing is.

[C]

An interdimensional being, I guess, I guess it's in the middle of religion and aliens. Because even the episode we were talking about last, there was a whole conversation on that we might be the only ones in the universe, you know?

[B]

Right.

[C]

We might be the only ones here, but maybe we're looking in the wrong places. Maybe they're right on top of us and we have no idea because we should be looking at dimensions.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. It's just crazy. How do you get in there? You know, it's like Joe's talked about it, do dmt, I guess. But how are the, how are the, you know, the U.S. government getting these stories and interacting with these things? What do they have a special machine that just like you scan in the room and you're like, oh yeah, there's three of those beings over there. Let's ask them what they want.

[C]

Yeah, that's a whole thing. Like do you need like ender pearls or something? Like, who the fuck knows how to. Like even they must have ways. I think there's whole things of like, like not to get too crazy here.

[B]

But let's do it. Today's the day, Brandon. Today's the day.

[C]

But there's talks of like, you know, government officials putting themselves in a state where their heart stops but oxygen is being flowed into their blood so they're technically still alive. So they can enter this dimension where they talk to these elves, these DMT elves from another dimension and make deals and they want certain things from humanity in terms of how humanity is, everything's overpopulated. You need to handle that. There's a lot of things. Drug use.

[B]

Okay, time for our weekly stand up comedy wrap up.

[D]

Alex. I didn't get to any stage shows but I did switch to T Mobile with their new family freedom offer.

[B]

Okay, I'm waiting for the punchline.

[D]

Well, my old phone bill with AT&T was a joke, so I'm doing a whole new bit with T Mobile. They paid off my family's four phones up to $3200 and gave us four new phones on the house.

[B]

I gotta work this into my routine.

[E]

Introducing Family freedom. Our lowest cost will switch our biggest family savings all on America's largest 5G network. Visit your local T Mobile location or learn more@t mobile.com FamilyFreedom up to $800.

[F]

Per line via virtual prepaid card typically takes 15 days. Free phones via 24 monthly bill credits with finance agreement, eg, Apple iPhone 16, 128 gigabyte 8, $29.99 Eligible trade in, eg, iPhone 11 Pro for well qualified credits end and balance due. If you pay off earlier, cancel contact.

[C]

T Mobile drug use as well, which they even talked about fucking MK Ultra on the. That's like a whole thing as well, you know, you even brought up DMT talking to these people. It's like, are these part of my imaginations? Are these DMT creatures a part of my imagination? Or am I tapping into something that's real? Am I looking through, like, this interdimensional telescope when I take certain substances? It's crazy.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, from all accounts, feels pretty real.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, that's the weird thing when. And Joe's talked about it too. It, like, feels more real than real life, which is. That one's strange. You know what I mean? It's like you can smoke a bit of weed and be like, all right, I'm kind of scared of my own shadow right now. It doesn't take long to remind yourself, oh, yeah, that's not. That's not real. I'm just like a teenager that smokes some weed and now I feel a bit squirrely, like, reasonable. Same with alcohol. Drink a bit and you just like, yeah, I'm super confident and really social. And it's like, no, I'm not. I'm not like this, all right? I'm pretty quiet. I'm not saying all this. However, if you go into, like. You know, I guess I equate it to, like, a lucid dream. I don't know if you've ever had one of those where you, like, realize you're dreaming. Yeah, it's like, more real in a weird way. Even if it's, like, odd stuff you're seeing, it feels like more like a higher definition. Like you get one of those new TVs from Costco when you walk in, and then it's like, oh, this is the latest that has, like, the best yellows in. And it's fucking 4K. You're like, Holy shit, that's the craziest stuff I've ever seen.

[C]

Yeah. And I'm not sure if you ever saw that thing where, like, I think Ari did, like, DMT on Joe's podcast, like, way back.

[B]

No, no, he did. On red bands. Like. Yeah, and all the Wacky Red Band 1. So he did salvia, dude. And he like.

[C]

Salvia. That's what it was.

[B]

Passes out and then he wakes up and he's sure that he lived years under the water in a completely different life. And that is. He is not the only account that I've ever heard of that.

[C]

And he said he had friends, he had a wife and everything. It makes you think, like, what if I die? It's just an alien being? Like, oh, fuck, dude, you shouldn't have given me that shit. You know, my whole life is just an aliens trip.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. You know, you just wake up in, like, this, like, squirrely lizard tail and you're like, whoa, dude, that's crazy. I'm not doing that again. And you're just in this Star wars bar. You're like, oh, I guess I just gotta go back to work tomorrow.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, it's. It's stuff I try not to think about too hard, you know, because this whole interdimensional, like, conversation asked a lot of those questions of, like, are we a trip? Are we a drug trip for, like, another being? What are different dimensions? How do these work? Why do psychedelics and all these drugs let us see these things.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And convince us that we're, like, living different lives, dude, that can't be a mental thing.

[B]

Like, that's.

[C]

Dreams aren't that powerful. Dreams are powerful, but compared to the shit we're talking about, no.

[B]

Well, dude, you have access to our website now for the Joe Rogan Experience review, which everyone listening, go to it. You know, sign up, send us an email. Of the 50 to 80 emails we get a day, 20% of them at least are just, like, trying to tell Joe about the simulation theory. People are hooked on this, dude. They're hooked. I can barely read them anymore. What the fuck, dude?

[C]

No one's. No one's answering my emails. God told me, like, I need to be on your show. God gave me a message and he said, tell Joe Rogan this. And I'm holding onto this message. Someone needs to talk to me. How can I talk to Joe? Like, those messages we get all the time.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Which is so funny.

[B]

Well, it is the thing. It's like, I don't want to be rude to them. You know, I want to.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I also, our entire site says that we are not Joe Rogan. So even replying with, like, hey, buddy, just to let you know, it's not Rogan here. Okay? And you know, what else are we supposed to do? It's like, you can't get in the mix with them, bro. I've tried it two or three times, and it's whack a doodle time.

[C]

Well, I Talk.

[B]

I wish him all the best, but I'm just like, I. I gotta stop engaging. This is not good.

[C]

I'm hoping they'll snap out of it at some point, you know, but they're probably living on 6th street or something.

[B]

But no doubt.

[C]

We were talking about the. The Patreon because we have a lot of plans for it. Even this episode we're talking about now will be early on the Patreon. We'll also have the video form of it on there.

[B]

Love that.

[C]

But we were thinking of ideas and we were talking about doing like a Patreon hangout for, like, the top tier, but how crazy would that be? And I was telling you how.

[B]

I forget what country, but I think it'd be fun.

[C]

There's people who believe they're Jesus. So what the cure is, is take all those people and put them in a room together.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I feel like that's what the Patreon hangout would be.

[B]

It could be close.

[C]

Wait, wait, wait. God told you to talk to Rogan, too?

[B]

Thank God you're here to lead it because you are looking like 92 to 95% Jesus y right now.

[C]

I know, dude. Like, I. My. My children, I did tell you I have a message for Rogan.

[B]

You gotta.

[C]

You are my messenger.

[B]

No, no. You're gonna help talk him off the ledge. You're gonna be like, hey, guys, guys. It's great ambition. And I believe that you feel it's real also. It might not be. And let's just chat about UFOs for a while, you know?

[C]

Yeah. As. As Jesus Christ. You need it. You need to stop doing crack. I'm sorry. I know it's great. Listen, I've. I've seen the Hunter Biden interview. I bet it's awesome.

[B]

It was a good interview.

[C]

You need to lay off. It was fantastic. And he's done like three since.

[B]

Yeah. I cannot believe that his dad or someone in his life isn't, like, monitoring his behavior.

[C]

Dude, if. If Hunter Biden goes on Joe Rogan, instantly we're doing that episode. Oh, instantly we're doing that. I don't. I don't care if God himself is on the next one. That's the. That's the one we're doing that week.

[B]

I think it'd be a good episode. I'm not going to lie.

[C]

I think it'd be great. Yeah, I think it'd be great.

[B]

It would be up. Anyway, I like this lady. I would like to see. She's kind of. She kind of portrayed her position as, like, she's often attacked. She. You know, people are out to get her in a way. She does her job and her best, but also, people aren't really taking her seriously. She's willing to kind of burn bridges to get whatever message she's trying to do out there. It all sounds very. What's the word? Sounds very. Like, she sounds noble, but also, she has her own agenda, so I don't know how long she's gonna last in politics, but it would be cool for her to get her own podcast later, circle back, maybe. Come on, Joe. Every now and again, have her as.

[C]

A guest on this one. You know, it's. It. I just feel like.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

With her background and how she, like, worked with Charlie Kirk in the past and everything, and her ladder to where she is now, definitely unique compared to the people, like, she's colleagues with. I feel like Rogan was definitely, like, doing a very easy interview with her. Even with aliens, like, she. He was very, very nice to her, which is cool. But I feel like with someone, if someone's that hot and they're sitting in front of you, you're not gonna like you. You don't want to stress them out or make them feel like you have a hard time. I feel like there was like, I was waiting for the moment where Rogan's like, oh, when it comes to the future and everything you're doing, you. You just have great. Cans. Plans. Plans as well. Cans.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. I feel like he was just. He was so. I, Like, I can. I always look at him. I'm like. I think he's sweating a little bit, because if someone that hot was in, you know, across the table from me, I'd be. You know, I don't know. I feel like I'd be like, yeah, Epstein who? You know, whatever.

[B]

Really.

[C]

What are you doing later?

[B]

I like to grill them. I would like to be like, all right, I'm too weak, dude.

[C]

I'm sorry.

[B]

Maybe I would be, too. For sure.

[C]

Maybe you can show me some cocktails after this. Any. So, you know, any ones you might recommend? I know a place down the street.

[B]

Yeah. It's unusual, though, that Joe just kind of had her say her spiel and didn't. Didn't kind of push back. And, you know, he gets a. He does get a lot of shit for this recently, at least. It's like. It's almost like people. Will. Dare I say cherry pick who he gets mad at. It's like, I felt like the Bernie Sanders interview went really well. He respects Bernie a lot. But he did push back on a few things like environmental stuff, a couple of other bits. And yeah, they made a bunch of tiktoks out of it. Okay, time for our weekly stand up comedy wrap up.

[D]

Alex. I didn't get to any stage shows, but I did switch to T Mobile with their new Family Freedom offer.

[B]

Okay, I'm waiting for the punchline.

[D]

Well, my old phone bill with AT&T was a joke, so I'm doing a whole new bit with T Mobile. They paid off my family's four phones up to $3200 and gave us four new phones on the house.

[B]

I gotta work this into my routine.

[E]

Introducing Family Freedom, our lowest cost. To switch our biggest family savings all on America's largest 5G network. Visit your local T Mobile location or learn more@t mobile.com familyfreedom.

[F]

Up to $800 per line via virtual prepaid card. Typically takes 15 days. Free phones via 24 monthly bill credits with finance agreement, eg Apple iPhone 16128 gigabyte $8029.99 eligible trade in eg iPhone 11 Pro for well qualified credits end and balance due if you pay off early or cancel contact T Mobile and.

[B]

Not Rogan himself, but other people did and they kind of use it as this thing. Like, oh, yeah, see, See what the left are up to? I'm like, the Bernie interview is great across the board. He just has a couple of things that he felt, what's up with this? And when he leaves it out of. Of interviews with like, Anna, it doesn't push back. It's like, well, I know you don't agree with everything that she just said for sure. However, does he need to bring up the Epstein list on almost every podcast? Because, dude, at this point I feel like we've been doing it. I want to. It annoys the shit out of me. But at what point is it like, all right, Rogan, give it a break.

[C]

Yeah, it's also the fact that he is the power as well. I don't know. Like, even. Even the past few guests, even Cash Patel, where he's talking about, well, I'll let the audience decide. Which maybe that's what he's doing with the rest of these, where, yeah, he's not agreeing, but he's like, the audience will make their own decision. Which I'm not sure how I feel about that approach because do you think if like, this was a guy, all the same points, same conversation, if it was just like a Mike Baker, people would be saying the same Shit in the comments because it feels like everybody is like, yeah, hot girls and interdimensional beings. I'm sold. I'm in.

[B]

Now you say that. I think you are right. If it was just a dude that came in there that was doing his thing, there would have been some broing out. There would have been some posturing. And, you know, Rogan's just nice. He's just nice to the ladies. He's like, ah, that's what I'm saying, you know? Yeah, exactly, exactly. No, I agree with you. I agree with you.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Like. Like, yeah, I probably. If it was. And it's hard to even put myself in, like, having that platform as well as, like, the influence he had with the president. When you're in this position, it's like, I'm not trying to fuck with, like. Like he's in the circle. Like, he's talking to Trump. He's going to dinners with Trump. I don't think he's trying to, like, with. With his. His people and be like, well, you said this. Well, what about this? Well, I don't know. I think you should, like, you know, reconsider that and you need to tell us this information. It just. It just seemed like more of a date, you know? Yeah, it seemed like more of just them kind of just hanging out. Here's some stuff I kind of know, but I can't say. That's fine. Anyway, it wasn't like, MK Ultra crazy.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

An Operation Paperclip. That was wild, too, you know? Yeah, no, it was just stuff like that.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Instead of like, hey, this is. There's like, a massive fucking thing happening. And, like, this is historic. The. The Epstein thing. This isn't like a little fucking controversy.

[B]

Yeah, massive.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Game changer. No, you're 100% right, man. I. Look, I still think it was a good episode for Rogan listeners. It is like, old school good. And also now this is like a US representative, which is wild, but you're 100% right, man. It was mostly softball questions, you know, he could have drilled on Epstein stuff. However, I would say that it will stop more and more of those sorts of representatives coming on the pod because they're just like, you know, he's just going to grill us on this one thing we're not allowed to talk about. And maybe he has some insight to this, which sucks for us as the audience, but it's like Rogan now is old and he's got a lot of money.

[C]

Right.

[B]

He just wants access to as many guests as he can get. Because at the end of the day, he's the one that just gets to chat with him. If he can't ask something on the pod, he's going to ask it to him afterwards. And who knows? He often takes those guys to dinner, lets him come to the club. Maybe he gives him some booze and loosens them up. Maybe it's his own version of the Epstein list without filming him. But he likes. He's trying to get to his own answers for the world. And dude, we definitely live in a reality where there are plenty of people in regular life like us that are just not gonna get to know. We're not privy. Dude, we're not invited to that party. We just gotta keep guessing and doing this show.

[C]

Oh, it's a party I want to crash, you know, because what I feel like is happening and you have a great point where, you know, after the episode they probably went to like fudgeing Terry Blacks or some shit and he was like, all right, what's real? All right, what? Let me, let me just fudgeing. See the pictures. It's just the two of us. Just. I feel like it's just like. Yeah, it's just like gateway so he can personally see what's actually up.

[B]

Yeah, come back to my mansion, meet my super hot wife, who's cool as fuck because everyone loves Rogan's wife and be like, just bash out the laptop, dude. Let's see some high def close up footage of like what alien shit you've been seeing. And you know, we. I won't mention it. I'm not mentioning on the pod.

[C]

It's all good.

[B]

We got a special handshake. Let's hit the cold plunge in the sauna.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. With her especially, you know, but it's crazy because, like, yeah, it's probably. They end the podcast and she's like, well, you know, now that we're off air, yeah, there are aliens. I have a couple of my contacts. I can FaceTime one right now.

[B]

Right? Interdimensional.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Who knows what access they have? Dude, they're probably on WhatsApp. Maybe that's what WhatsApp's for.

[C]

I do think it was a good episode. And I will say that I do also like the conversation about, like, insider trading. I thought that was great. Yeah, because that's just bullshit. Well, I love, like, there's.

[B]

You got to respect. You got to respect her for not being a part of it and saying no. I hope more representatives do, you know, even though, even if it became a trend I'm sure even the greedy ones would find a way to do it through their fucking cousin or brother in law or someone. But it's a good standard to have to where people like, you know what, we don't do this. I know we can. They haven't changed the law, but we don't want to. And you've got to give a respect for that. Or at least I think it's reasonable.

[C]

I think it's very respectful. Definitely because you get people in there who are like fucking 106 but they're getting like dumb fucking checks. So like I'm just gonna sit this one out. I'm just gonna die in a pile of fucking gold.

[B]

Have you ever heard of, heard of the app called Autopilot? So it's this group of guys out of la, I think in Santa Monica, friend of mine went to school with one of them and they made a app that follows trades of like the top investors like Warren Buffett, Nancy Pelosi, you know, a lot of politicians. So you get to through Robinhood or another. I think it's mainly Robinhood that you connect the account to, which is a trading company. You get to follow their trades. So it's not immediate because I think it takes like 30 or 90 days for Nancy's trades to become viewed by the public. I don't know how quick it is, but dude, I've had money in that for a while just because I've always thought she was a bitch and an insider trading nightmare. And I was like, fuck it, I'll put some money in this. It follows that. Dude, I've never been under like 32% on it. I'm not kidding. Anyone can use this app. We should be sponsored by this company. For myself, I even reached out to them and I was like, you should sponsor the show because I talk about this all the time.

[C]

That's a genius fucking idea.

[B]

Yeah, dude, the reason I did it, I didn't care that much. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'll take the money. Like I guess that's mine now. And technically I don't know if that makes me like one degree separation inside a trader. I don't know what the number is, but yeah, it's like legit. Can you see that?

[C]

Yeah, I can.

[B]

Look at that.

[C]

Pelosi tracker. That's fucking great.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.

[D]

Honestly Will, I didn't plan any trips, but I did switch to T Mobile with their new family freedom offer.

[B]

That's not the itinerary we're following.

[D]

Well, I'm departing from ATT and embarking on a new journey with T Mobile. They paid off my family's four phones up to $3200 and gave us four. Four new phones on the house.

[B]

Bon voyage.

[E]

Introducing family freedom. Our lowest cost will switch our biggest family savings all on America's largest 5G network. Visit your local T Mobile location or learn more@t mobile.com familyfreedom.

[F]

Up to $800 per line via virtual prepaid card. Typically takes 15 days. Free phones via 24 monthly bill credits with finance agreement eg, Apple iPhone 16, 128 gigabyte 82999 eligible trade in eg iPhone 11 Pro for well qualified credits end and balance due if you pay off early or cancel contact T Mobile.

[C]

That's awesome.

[B]

I mean, it's not. It's not much money. I put like a thousand dollars in there, you know, that'll be on our Patreon. You can see it all. But yeah, I don't care. You know, to me, I'm just like, surely this can't be real. She can't be that much of a trick. I'm like, how the fuck do you make 30? Imagine if I had like a million dollars and I put that in there. I would have made 300 grand this year doing nothing.

[C]

Yeah, that's so smart.

[B]

It's disgusting that that happens.

[C]

It's something I'm definitely going to look into for sure. That's.

[B]

Yeah, we do it. Is that what.

[C]

That's hilarious. Yeah, you convinced me.

[B]

Well, too bad they're not even a.

[C]

Sponsor and we're giving them such a nice plug here.

[B]

I was going to say, actually, actually, Brandon cut this bit that we just did. Send it to him. Yeah, and see if we can log him.

[C]

Yeah, I think that's our goal.

[B]

Well, but here's the thing. If people are listening to this at this point in the pod, I would say, hey, that works. It's not illegal. We're all trying to just live our good lives. And if these sneaky thieves are gonna take off the top end, why can't you get involved? I mean.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

I can't guarantee the return, but that's why I didn't put a lot of money in. But it's wild to see it. Dude, I wish I had dumped like 100 grand into that.

[C]

Next week I'll be like, yeah, I'm like $500 in debt.

[B]

Yeah, it just collapses immediately. All right, disclaimer. Don't trust a word I'm saying with investors.

[C]

I'll go take a shit on her desk or whatever.

[B]

I don't know anything about it. All right. Well, this is a good episode. Yeah, I liked it. It was enjoyable. I agree with you, though. It's like, what did we really learn? But, man, it's in the right direction. If we get more representatives talking about this stuff, it's getting the public excited about, like, gives us this, like, belief and hope for disclosure and who knows where that goes? Give it a generation. Give it another 20 years or whatever. And the new group of politicians are in, and they're like, hey, the last lot talked about this. Let's delve deeper. Maybe we eventually get some answers.

[C]

I say let's turn up the pressure on the whole Epstein case so we can learn more about aliens. That's how I feel about it. I love it, but it was solid, solid episode. If I was to rank it, I think I'm gonna give it, like, a 7 out of 10. I know we don't do that, but.

[B]

No, I like it. Let's start doing it. That's a seven out of ten, but it's a seven plus out of ten. Seven plus.

[C]

I'm just saying, like, five would be average. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Is like an average Joe Rogan.

[B]

Well, there are.

[C]

I think that was a seven there. I was like, two over. Yeah.

[B]

There are some interesting sevens as well that you're just like, oh. By the end of the day, it's like, what happened here? I think some people could get a lot out of this, and the same sum could be like, that annoyed the shit out of me. Yeah.

[C]

And I feel like I got a bit of both. Like, there was a lot of this podcast. As a podcast, like, the. The things they were discussing was interesting, but with the context of the world around the episode and, like, politics, what we're dealing with right now, I don't know. Like, it's definitely. For me, it's a 7 out of 10. I'm not sure for you, but I think we can both, like, agree that she's a 10 out of 10.

[B]

Oh, yeah. And we will end on that. Thank you, Brandon, as always. Everyone else, God bless, and we will talk to you guys next week. Goodbye.