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Adam Thorne
You're listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review.
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Brandon
What a bizarre thing we've created now.
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Adam Thorne
With your host, Adam Thorne.
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Brandon
This might either be the worst podcast.
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Adam Thorne
Or the best one. One go.
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Brandon
Enjoy the show.
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Adam Thorne
Hey, guys. And welcome to another episode of the J. E Review. My name is Adam, joined as always by Brandon. What's going on, buddy?
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Brandon
Nothing much, man. Had maybe one too many to drink last night. Played a lot of pool, as you know. One of Rogan's favorite sports. Yeah, he's one of the. I'm all right. I'm all right. You know, give me. Give me a couple vodka crayons and I can sink a couple in.
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Adam Thorne
But it's a fun game, dude. And, you know, it's. It's a bit like stand up in that way. It's like there's kind of nothing better than just having that one game that just runs the table. Even though you know your next nine, you just completely sink. There's just something very satisfying about being in that zone, I think.
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Brandon
Yeah, it's like standup, because, like, you know, you get on a good streak, and then, you know, the guy at the bar with the ripped T shirt, you know, calls next game and just wipes the floor with you. And then you go, I'm quitting. I'm never doing this again.
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Adam Thorne
Never coming back. And then you turn to drugs.
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Brandon
Exactly. And here we are.
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Adam Thorne
There we go. Well, didn't Rogan say that a lot of those pool guys did a bunch of speed? That was like, the thing. Yeah, I think it was before Adderall, so it was like. Like uppers, like you had to do. And then he had some friends that did heroin and would get a pull, and he's like, huh? Yeah, everyone has their own style, I guess. Yeah, it doesn't make sense. Feel like you fall asleep. Anyway, this week we are reviewing Andrew Santino episode September 23rd came out. So everyone knows Andrew. He's been on like seven times. 42 years old, Chicago born. You know, he's an actor, podcaster. He's sharp. I like him. He's kind of deadpan, too, a little bit. Like, he's hard to break.
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Brandon
He.
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Adam Thorne
I've seen him perform dozens of times at the Comedy Store. And he always good. Like, he. He always could hold his own with the top brass. And I mean, to be fair, when I was watching him, this was 2018, 2019, he wasn't anywhere as big as he is today. Like, he. He would, you know, he was at the Comedy Store. That's something he don't think he had a podcast that was viable. And, yeah, on kind of the level of things. Like, Crystal was here, so was Tom and the rest of, you know, the bigger players. He seemed like, dare I say, a bit of a middle act, but he never was that. He always was funny enough to be there. Just. It just takes time to get popular, you know, it really does. And then with Bobby Lee, Bad Friends, and Whiskey Ginger and all those, I mean, he's. He shot right to the front. I mean, I. I'm not exactly sure how big that podcast is, but it's. It's worth millions of dollars, for sure.
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Brandon
Yeah, it's huge. It's. It's real huge. And, like, Bad Friends is excellent. Santino's been on Rogan a couple times. A few times. I'm not sure the exact amount, but was maybe one of those OG comics who got like, that, like, initial Rogan bump, you know? Yeah, like. Like, so he. He is kind of like, you know, he was in the Rogan sphere for a little bit. He's kind of like, he. He does back off, but he does dabble in it. He'll be on Joe's podcast and, you know, anytime he has to. For example, he does have a new special coming out, and that's why he came to Austin to be on.
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Adam Thorne
Well, look, I. I think people like Rogan, they just also know you can kind of be typ cast. You know, it's like being. Being James Bond. You're just James Bond that after that. Right? It's a little bit like that in that, like, once you move to Austin and you're only at the mothership, it just is kind of getting that reputation. I'm not saying that actually happens, but you're seeing these comedians be more and more cautious that are all very close to roving. Tim, Dillon, Gillis, you know, like, Theo never got out there fully like, everybody is. And I kind of feel like, hey, don't. Don't just go to one place. Yeah, it's a great club, but there's. Always go back to New York, you know, always go back to Boston, always go back to la. That's how you stay really on top of your game, is you gotta. You gotta test all of those flavors.
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Brandon
I agree. I really do agree. And that brings us to this point here that I want to promote that. We're doing the elephant graveyard review after we record this podcast on Patreon, so you can go check that out. I. I believe we have mentioned that we're planning that, but we're doing It. It'll be on today. That is Tuesday. So I'm excited to talk about that. And. And that point exactly is what we'll expand upon, because, like, the Rogan sphere, everything connected with that, the drama going on with that scene right now, there's a lot to talk about. There's quite a lot. So we'll definitely dive into that in the next episode on Patreon, the elephant Graveyard review. So check that out. But exactly. Man, it's like, you can't just stay in a bubble like that. You. You have to just jump around. And that's what Santino's doing. You know, he's in. Where is he right now? I think he's in Saudi Arabia, I think. Lives in la.
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Adam Thorne
Oh, it. Currently in Saudi.
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Brandon
Yeah, maybe.
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Adam Thorne
Did he. Was he on that? He went over that, too.
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Brandon
Yeah. Him and Bobby Lee both. I think they're doing, like, literally, like, a live Bad Friends.
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Adam Thorne
Get the fuck out of here.
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Brandon
Yeah. That's crazy.
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Adam Thorne
I. Yeah. What is the list of the Saudi team?
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Brandon
Kevin Hart, Louis ck, Bill Burr, Pete Davidson.
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Adam Thorne
Chappelle went, I think.
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Brandon
Oh, yeah. Yeah, he did.
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Adam Thorne
He did.
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Brandon
He did. Yeah. Did you see what he said recently?
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Adam Thorne
Imagine what they paid Chappelle. I mean, they paid. God, I'm gonna sound so dumb. I forget that football player's name. Who's the quarterback? Tom Brady. They paid him $75 million to play flag football. Think about that. It's like, you want Dave Chappelle, who is, like, really known as the Goat. The number is just infinite. And when they kept doubling it for Shane Gillis, I can't imagine he actually supposedly said, please stop, because eventually you'll get to a number I have to say yes to. And what an interesting negotiation strategy that is to be like, no. Well, look, he's not going to be broke. But it's an interesting position. Like, do you think ultimately he sleeps better at night, or ultimately it will pay off just in fan loyalty? Because I think that that. That does have a lot of power as well.
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Brandon
Definitely, definitely. And it's like, you look at someone like Kevin Hart, and it's like, do you really need this paycheck, dude? You're doing, like. Like, ads for. For banks and, like, gambling sites. Like, do you. Have you not sold your soul enough? It's like. It's crazy. It really is crazy to see that. Well, you know, I say we get into some of the fan reception of this Santino episode, because it was all over the place, and that's what drew me to talk about this. Not Only was it one of the most popular episodes? I believe it was actually the most popular episode for the week, but the fan reception was all over the place. Now, the top comment on YouTube for the Santino episode was, it was really cool of Santino to watch Joe talk for three hours.
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Adam Thorne
That I enjoy it because as soon as I read it, I was like, yep, kinda.
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Brandon
This. This was my favorite one. This is my favorite one. This episode was definitely the Joe Rogan experience.
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Adam Thorne
Right?
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Brandon
It did feel like an experience, you know, just like hearing him. Just like it was literally Joe, like, lecturing Santino and then Santino would bring up a point, and then Joe goes, oh, that reminds me of this thing, and then would totally go off on this whole other point. You know, big moments deserve less stress and more confidence. When Ed shows up in the bedroom, hims helps you keep your cool and focus on what matters most. The moment. Not to worry, because through hims, you can access personalized prescription treatment options for Ed, like hard mints and sex Rx plus climax control if prescribed. To get simple online access to personalized affordable care for ED, hair loss, weight loss, and more, visit hims.comjre that's hims.comjr for your free online visit hims.comjr Actual price will depend on product and subscription plan. Featured products include compounded drug products which the FDA does not approve or verify for safety, effectiveness, or quality. Prescription required. See website for details, restrictions, and important safety information.
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Adam Thorne
What's interesting is I think that what's happening is. I mean, look, Joe's show is still ginormous. The. The Joe Rogan experience is huge. It's like, way out in the lead for downloads for the length of time. I know there's been some other shows that do much shorter episodes and they release like five times a week that have managed to kind of catch up. And, you know, that's more of a numbers game. And there's. There's some skewiness to that. Look, people eventually will overtake Rogan for sure. But what's happening is Rogan is saying that even in the world of podcasting and stand up, some people are getting like, you know, escape velocity energy. Shane Gillis for sure. I mean, he doesn't need to go on Rogan. If he got upset with Rogan and had like, an actual real blow up, like, he do, fine. He's not gonna. I don't think it's his style, you know, but in the same way Andrew is like, yeah, I'll come on your show. I like you, Joe. I Loved hanging out with you when we were at the Comedy Store and all the rest of it. Also, I have Marin on, and Marin can talk a bunch of shit about the Rogan sphere and what's going on at the comedy mothership. And I'll laugh at that. It's like that there is this thing that is what they call the pure comedian. And I think. I think if you struggle to understand what that means, just start watching Norm MacDonald a lot and then you'll know it's someone that, yes, could have got a lot more if they wanted to, financially and otherwise. But stay true to, like, this comedic path, which is in some ways, like, mildly self destructive. I think it's. I think it's all mixed in with, like, its own kind of mental illness, what draws people to this thing in the first place. But there's some beauty to that. It's like we're the, you know, stand up comedians are jesters. Right. They're willing to let insult the king and then have the king cut their head off. And if you start kissing the ass of the king, you're not really the jester anymore. You know, you're just like, hey, Peter Thiel, you're cool. Can I hang out with you?
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Brandon
Yeah. And unfortunately, we're seeing a bit of that. And it's also tough when the king is a jester. And, you know, kissing up to that jester gives you jestering gigs, if that makes sense.
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Adam Thorne
Yeah, that's.
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Brandon
I feel like we're seeing some of that with some of these comics who are like, really, like. Instead of, like, engaging with Rogan and having like a conversation with him of like, pushing back and like, really, like, going back and forth and like, sharing their actual view on things. Some of these guests feel a little more like yes Men than anything, you know, and. And I have an issue with that. It's like, it's the same thing with how it's the other end of the spectrum where Joe is kind of being nice to the, like, the tech guys. We see the comics doing the same thing to Joe where they're not really pushing back, they're just kind of nodding their head. Sure, of course, like, Rogan's like, bros, like, his buddies will come on. And those are like, the best because it's. It's friends shooting the, you know. Yeah, but if it's like someone, some guy who's like a headliner now in New York and Joe List just got him like, hey, my buddy Rogan, I hit him up. You should do a pod with him. You know, you have a new special coming out that he's not gonna. Whatever, Joe. You know, Joe can talk about Charlie Kirk, Jimmy Fallon all he wants. I'll just nod my head, you know, And. And I'm not saying that's what happened with Santino, but that's what we're seeing a lot nowadays. But anyway, like, what were your takeaways with this episode with Santino? Like, after you listen to the whole thing, like, what are your general thoughts on it?
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Adam Thorne
Well, I like that, you know, he kind of started off just breaking down that podcasting is still relevant. It's still real, it's still relevant, it's still not controlled. Even though, like, you're saying there are these elements that are coming in because it's so powerful that billionaires will get on there or whatever, but it's like, there's no fcc. No one can tell them to stop saying whatever, you know, words that they want. And it's really down to just, like, it's still a bit of the Wild West. It's been really difficult for everybody to regulate. So much so that at least with comedians, they don't even need to go on late at night TV or try and get pilots or get that, like, TV show and deal with any of the holy Hollywood. They can just be popular at podcasting and they're going to sell out their shows, which is what they were trying to do the whole time, but now they get to do it without selling out at all. You know, you're telling me Tim the Tall Man Taylor, even though he made a shitload of money, didn't sell out doing that show. You know, and I love that show. Growing up, I liked it. You know, it was out in the 90s. It was fun. He was like, you know, just doing his. But you look at his standup, and it's just like, dude, give that guy a podcast. Just give him a podcast. Then he can stay almost exactly like his act and just talk about whatever he wants. I just think it's a better path for them. I think it changes them a little bit. Like, they say that about Leno. Leno was a fun comedian for a while. He would get into it, he had some wild stories, and then he became very carefully PC. I'm pretty sure that this is the story with Leonard. Don't fact check me. But I'm pretty sure that was it. And he just kind of became the late night guy.
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Brandon
Yeah.
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Adam Thorne
You know, like, you saw. I don't blame him. Well, not really. I mean, I guess, but it's like 30 million a year. Dude, you're telling, you're telling me you don't have a price?
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Brandon
Like, I, I, I, my price is like 500 bucks at this point. Like, I'll say this about Leto, you know, great comic, you know, one of the best. Even like Norm MacDonald would say, yeah, nor like, like Jay Leno was, is like one of the greats.
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Adam Thorne
Oh, dude, every, A lot of people like Leno. They, in the world of comedy, they really respected Leno.
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Brandon
It's, it's just the late night thing where he's like hiding in the closet to listen to the, the execs talk about the show. How he like kind of over Conan. Like there's a, there's a lot to unpack where it's like people are like, yeah, this guy, because he didn't become the comic, he like left being a comic and became this like, late night host, but he was still doing comedy.
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Adam Thorne
You know, but then I think this is the point. Yeah, it just that they get thrown into this world, the Hollywood or New York, SNL world, you know, And I'm not saying SNL's bad. I think that that's still a good route for people. But, but, you know, they get thrown into this different world. Whereas if you were just giving Jay Leno a car podcast where he made jokes and talked about cars, he wouldn't have needed a late night at all. And he would have done stand up, right?
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Brandon
Yeah.
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Adam Thorne
It's like if you watch Jay Leno's car show, he did it after his late night. It's fantastic. He loves it. He's so passionate about all these wild automobiles that he owns or ones that he wants to see. And he's hilarious the whole time. And the interviews he's doing, he actually wants to do them. And he never wanted to do like 90% of the ones that he did on that show. He's like, who is this idiot?
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Brandon
Yeah, yeah, Bill Hicks has a great bit about that. But, well, look at it this way, you know, yeah, he could have had a car podcast, but how many people would have been interested in that? Like, like Jay's whole thing was to get his, like, that's, that is the, the cream of the crop. If you want to be popular. That's it. If you look at it back then, there were only like. It's like, this is a bit of a flawed analogy, but it's like if there were only like four, four podcasts and he had one of them. I know I have no control of my finances, but I Just don't know where to start. Rocket Money gives you the clarity and confidence to take that first step, helping you cut wasteful spending and take meaningful action towards your financial goals. Rocket Money is a personal finance app that helps find and cancel your unwanted subscriptions, monitors your spending, and it helps lower your bills so you can grow your savings. Get alerts if your bills increase in price, if there's unusual activity in your account, if you're close to going over budget, and even when you're doing a good job. Rocket Money has saved users over 2.5 billion, including over 880 million in canceled subscriptions alone. Their 10 million members save up to $740 a year when they use all of the app's premium features. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go to RocketMoney.com jrer today. That's RocketMoney.com jre RocketMoney.com jre like, with the amount of late shows there were, you know, like how big late shows were back in the day, like taking over for Carson, like the impact Johnny Carson had. Everyone knew who he was.
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Adam Thorne
Oh, yeah.
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Brandon
You know, the interviews, like, it, it's so. It's like taking that mantle was insane because we. It wasn't like today where you have a million options and then you can kind of rise.
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Adam Thorne
You're right. And I'm not saying he should have done one back then, because they didn't even have podcasts and the closest thing would have been a radio show, and they didn't even barely have talk radio. None of it would have made sense. What he did was what he had to do. But if you look at today's comedians, they just have a different route and it doesn't come with its own problems as well. I mean, you know, some of these podcasting comedians have got hyper inflated to where it doesn't really represent their level of standout.
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Brandon
Yeah, right.
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Adam Thorne
Where before it was always like, the cream rises to the top in stand up comedy. You're either that good and you stand out or you don't. Well, it's not always true when it comes to podcasting because we've seen some guys get real popular podcasting that also did stand up. And it's like, you shouldn't, you shouldn't be having a special right now.
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Brandon
You shouldn't be bombing a Netflix special right now.
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Adam Thorne
You know, it's like, I was thinking Showtime.
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Brandon
It's like, yeah, there's like that. There's so many comics who, like, it's like, dude, You're a podcaster. It's like you're doing arenas now and it's like you should be. You're, you're on a, you're, you're skill set is at a club level and you're doing these massive arenas. You know, you have, you definitely have an overlay for sure. Like Shane Gillis, for example, where his status is desert.
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Adam Thorne
Shane Gillis is an arena killer comedian for sure. Also world class podcaster. Also great at making shows and skits. Tires. What is it? Gillison? Key was the keys. Keeves. Yeah, yeah, that. Some of those kids were brilliant. I mean, Shane, Shane is a different beast. He's someone that even Chappelle is like, oh, that's, that's gonna be the. That's the goat. Like he's something else. And you know, the fallout of that is he's gonna drag a few people along just like Rogan did. That ultimately might be dubs, but I feel like Shane is better at selecting him because if you look at tires, he's only putting the legends in there. And you know, I'm not saying like Andrew Santino is, but like he is very good at stand up, you know. Who's the, what's his name? Stavros.
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Brandon
Stop.
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Adam Thorne
Got him in the. Dude. That guy is brilliant.
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Brandon
Dude. I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure if you're a fan of Cometown. I, I am obsessed with that podcast. Nick Mullen.
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Adam Thorne
So good dude.
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Brandon
Yeah, Stavi's great. He's really the biggest one to come out of that like trio. Those three guys, like Adam Friedland too, like Adam Friedland went on to make the Adam Friedland show, you know. Stavi is now working with Shane Gillis. He's doing Netflix specials. He's like, you know, doing these big arenas. I think they're more big actors, but, but you know, and then Nick Mullins, like, you know, sitting in someone's basement playing like Metroid 3 or something. You know, it's. Who's the best out of all three, which is crazy. He's the one not doing anything he put out. I'm not sure if you saw his special, you're the Dragon, I believe, or was it a different. Yeah, it's. Dude, it's one of the best specials like I've seen. Like it is so.
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Adam Thorne
No, really?
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Brandon
Yeah, I'll send you, I'll send you a link.
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Adam Thorne
Send me a link after the episode.
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Brandon
Yeah, it's great, man. Nick Mullen is like just such a amazing comic. One of the best podcasters. I've ever heard in my life. He's just so naturally funny. But, yeah, Comptown's great. And it's just like, yeah, Stavi, like, well deserved. The. The exposure he's getting and everything he's doing. Adam Friedland's killing it. Like, it's. It's cool. It's like podcasting is also a way for these really funny comics, like Nick Mullen to, like, get a lot of exposure and for people to be like, oh, this guy's, like, hilarious. What are we doing? You know, so. So it's like, it. It's so interesting because it could help as much as it can hurt, you know?
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Adam Thorne
Well, look, I think that. I think it's just another avenue. Like, some of the funniest people I knew ever would be terrible on a podcast. They would kind of terrible. In our group, Hanks, they were just great writers and they could. They could perform their jokes and they were super disciplined. Yet there were these wacky, sloppy comedians that didn't write anything down. They just were confident enough to keep throwing themselves on stage and just hitting the same joke and adjusting a few pieces and asking those questions. And, you know, those guys you put on podcasts or gals, and they were really good at, like, finding the comedy, right? Especially when you've got, like, an hour to talk, because you only need to hit, like, three good jokes in a podcast with some relatively interesting stuff between it, and it's surprisingly entertaining. And then that just gives them more confidence to be like, oh, yeah, I'm going out and doing some more stand up tonight. Or, wow, I made some money on this podcast. I mean, you know, it didn't take long for people to start making like, minimum 500 bucks on podcasts if you're doing these comedy podcasts, right? And for standups that I knew in 2016 in Santa Monica, that's an absolute game changer. The amount of people that I knew lived in their car, right, and still did stand up, 500 a week would have changed their whole world. It's true, though. It's true. And that would improve your. Your open mics and your stand up.
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Brandon
Oh, it would change everything.
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Adam Thorne
Motivation, dude.
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Brandon
I swear to God. I want to say, realistically, 50% of the comics, it, like the open MicRs in Austin, Texas, are living out of their car. Like, so many comics were living out of their car. It was crazy. Like, I. I heard that in la, like, yeah, people would live out of the car. You got to do what you got to do. But this was like, it was like, crazy to be like, oh my. You have your own place. You know, like you live somewhere you're not homeless. Oh, my God. Like, it was, it's, it's like, it's just crazy. Yeah. Podcasting has been a way for a lot of these open micrs. You know, just buy a pod track, buy a little mixer, and if you're funny, if you get the ball rolling, boom, you're out of that rut and now you have, you're, you know, you're living in a, a hole, but it's a start. And then that podcast starts getting traction. You can get a better place. You're now a feature act. You know, it's, it's a gray avenue. It's like you now could be in radio without having to, like, you know, go to school for it. You can just do it. It's great. Yeah, yeah, it's really cool.
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Adam Thorne
It's a beautiful gift and, you know, and people knew it. Back in 2016, when I was doing open mics in Santa Monica, I got pulled into podcasting. Kind of like last, like all the open mic is, were doing shows and they were way more creative, way funnier, had way better ideas, way better names, way better logos, way better music with it. And they were really hitting the ground running with their podcast. And I did a couple of them and I'm like, God, I wish I was more talented. And I'm not. So I'm just going to. I was listening to Rogan one day and he was like, just start a podcast. Talk about anything that you want that you find interesting. And I was like, well, I find this show interesting. So as dumb as that idea was, I just did that. And random as it just blew up. And basically all the other people that I knew, at least in my group, that they didn't get any traction. And the worst part was they were putting so much time in, like, I was not putting much time into my show, but it was, it was just that idea. Like, they were correct. Even though it didn't do a lot for them, they were correct, correct about their pursuit. It was definitely the direction to follow for a lot of people, especially stand ups.
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Brandon
Yeah, maybe we can make that world.
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Adam Thorne
It's the, it's the true free speech type environment. If that's not for, like, it's either for conspiracy theorists, racist or stand up comedians. And that's the problem with some types of podcasting. But on the positive end of that, the comedians are, that's the direction they should go.
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Brandon
Exactly. And maybe we can get this Podcast to a point where Santino can hear us talk for three hours. You know, I think that's the goal. Like, have him on and just, like, hear us talk about Jimmy Kimmel, Charlie Kirk.
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Adam Thorne
Yeah.
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Brandon
You know. Yeah.
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Adam Thorne
We just interrupt him and tell him our thoughts, and he's like, I'm not coming back on. And we never mentioned. We never mentioned golf once, so he gets really upset.
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Brandon
Oh, yeah. That was never mentioned, right?
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Adam Thorne
No, no, they didn't talk about.
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Brandon
They didn't talk about.
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Adam Thorne
I would have thought that he would have. Santino would at least talk to Jamie about golf. You know, if anything, just to plug his, you know, podcast with. With the. The golf podcast or the golf show that he has. I mean, look, Rogan doesn't mind his friends or people, like, plugging their. I don't. I just don't think Santino gives a fuck. And I think that they needed to get together because I think both of them were unsure about how each of them felt after the Marin episode on Bad Friends.
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Brandon
And Maris was name dropped. I'm not sure remember that. It was very, like, subtly kind of just throwaway thing, but I think that was kind of Joe just being like. Yeah, I know. Like, I. Yeah, he's like.
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Adam Thorne
I talked to him for a minute, and then we're hugging it out.
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Brandon
Yeah.
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Adam Thorne
Mark Marin, like. Yeah. Which I. Which I think is. But I think that that would be real even if Marin was like, these guys still. You know, I just don't think that he's like, you know, he's a bit bitter in his comedy in Sometimes. In other things. But he's not a bad guy. You can't say Mark Marin is. Sucks. Like, no way. One Funny as hell. Og. And also, yeah, I think if he's chatting with Rogan about stuff and he's just like, look, dude, I think this is. And this is. But anyway, let's both have a whiskey. By the end of it, Marin's gonna be like, it's cool.
- [33:27]
Brandon
Yeah. He's had beef with maybe every single comedian on the planet, like Louis ck For example. Like, they. And then Louie came on the podcast and they figured it out.
- [33:37]
Adam Thorne
What was he. What was he mad at Louie for?
- [33:39]
Brandon
It was some, like, he wasn't answering emails. Something I can't even remember. It was so, like. It was so, like, passive aggressive. Like, oh, you didn't, like, answer me. So I thought this. And then the assumptions turned into that. It was. It was, like, so convoluted. But that's just who.
- [33:59]
Adam Thorne
Meredith, do you remember when CK had Dane Cook on his show to literally talk about joke stealing directly about a joke that he felt like Dane stole from him.
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Brandon
That was such a great episode. I. I. Yeah, really wasn't it?
- [34:21]
Adam Thorne
And, like, honestly, fair play to Dane for coming on to cover that. It's like, you know, it's pretty clear that he took that joke. Like, that's such a kind of unusual premise. It was about the name. Remember, like, naming your kid, like, Chewbacca, but, like, the Chewbacca sound or like.
- [34:41]
Brandon
Like only use vowels and.
- [34:43]
Adam Thorne
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And. But at the same time, it's like, maybe he honestly was just like, I guess I did, but I got so much traction from this thing, and I just followed it and. And I don't know, being humble enough to just kind of be like, yeah, I. That up.
- [35:04]
Brandon
Yeah. And dude, like, Louie has had some of the best guest stars on that show. Like Doug Stanhope, one of the best performances I've. I've seen from, like, a comedic actor, even though it wasn't really a comedy monologue. It was like, oh, that was so great. And then Robin Williams was on an episode. I'm not sure if you remember that. There's like, if you go back and watch that show, there's so many amazing guest stars on that, and they all play just such a. A great role. Like Dane Cook, for example. Like, that was so memorable. It was like, whoa. Like, if. If I watch that when that came out, and like, Doug Stanhope, Robin Williams, all these other guest stars, too, it's like. And Jim Norton, who I wouldn't even call a guest star on that show, but, like, a reoccurring character. Just, like, so good. Like, Louis knows how to, like, cast people.
- [35:58]
Adam Thorne
Wouldn't they all play poker? They'd be playing poker, right?
- [36:01]
Brandon
Yeah, with, like, Robert Kelly and. Yeah.
- [36:04]
Adam Thorne
And then, like, Sarah Silverman was on the table and. Yeah. A bunch of New York comics. I mean, but, you know, but this. This explains, like, Gillis is definitely in the same world as ck. It's like they're seeing something different. They're able to do more things than just, like, their genius comedy. And it's like, it's like anything, man. There's levels to all of it. Right?
- [36:33]
Brandon
Yeah.
- [36:33]
Adam Thorne
You know, even if we're talking, like, the Gordon Ryan of jiu jitsu, and literally a man that can write down the submission and be the best people in the world, you don't think they have this. And stand up. You don't think they have this in basket weaving. Like, there's Always a best, right? And. And they have it in pool. No doubt. Yeah. Who is it? The Russian guy, right?
- [37:00]
Brandon
He's badass, wasn't it? Yeah, the Russian guy. I think it was like a. There's this, like, Puerto Rican guy who's, like, really famous, and it's like a guy.
- [37:09]
Adam Thorne
Oh, no, he's like, Malaysian, dude.
- [37:11]
Brandon
Malaysian? Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude.
- [37:14]
Adam Thorne
The Malaysians, I think. Or is it like Philippines? They're so good at pool, dude. Yeah, they're, like, outside playing pool and there's, like, chickens running around, like. No, no, no. That's not like a Tony Hinchcliffe joke.
- [37:29]
Brandon
Yeah, yeah.
- [37:30]
Adam Thorne
They have outside tables, you know, and they just. They play so much that they are completely unstoppable.
- [37:39]
Brandon
It's just like a pool table in a backyard, you know? And they're just like. They're just sinking the shit in.
- [37:46]
Adam Thorne
Like, dude, they've been hitting those angles since before they even knew how to spell angle. So it's just. It's just, like, so coded in their brain that when you and I go up to a pool table and we're trying to figure out which way to go, they've seen it a million times. It's like, watch this ban.
- [38:09]
Brandon
Like, it turns into matrix code, you know, like, they see the grid. It's like. It's crazy, man.
- [38:17]
Adam Thorne
Yeah, yeah. Imagine that if you just saw the lines and it just bounces right into the pocket. You just turn it. Remember those, like, shitty golf games back in the day? You're like, oh, I'm gonna hit it this way.
- [38:29]
Brandon
Yeah, yeah. You're like, the. The power ups are just like, you know, speed, and.
- [38:36]
Adam Thorne
You just hit it.
- [38:37]
Brandon
Yeah. Well, it. Let's turn this podcast into, like, a pool podcast from now on.
- [38:43]
Adam Thorne
It's the only way to go. It's the only way to go. We just playing pool while doing the podcast.
- [38:50]
Brandon
Well, it's like, on, like, the iPhone, there's like. You can, like, share pool games and, like, go back and forth and play. We should do, like, a. Like an online pool game as we talk. Rogan. That would be so fitting.
- [39:06]
Adam Thorne
Actually.
- [39:07]
Brandon
Imagine that we like online pool while talking about Rogan. Like, that's so. That's even more Joe Rogan than what we're doing now.
- [39:16]
Adam Thorne
And then the people that listen to the show can bet on the game as it's going.
- [39:21]
Brandon
Yeah.
- [39:21]
Adam Thorne
And then we just have, like, a running tally of who's going to win the stupid pole game.
- [39:27]
Brandon
That'd be great. Do you know the story how real quick, when. When Shanghai was bombed on Rogan. And that's how Shane Gillis says. Yeah, yeah, he says he bombed on Rogan. And then after, he's like, the worst part was playing pool with Rogan, where you're just sitting there with that bomb and just Rogan ruining you at pool. You know, I'm like, that sucks.
- [39:51]
Adam Thorne
Yeah, it does.
- [39:52]
Brandon
Well.
- [39:53]
Adam Thorne
But he was, like, just weirdly nervous, you know, he made that, like, goofy joke where he was like, I don't even care if I get fired from snl. I'll just immediately just go on Rogan. And. And Rogan was, like, in such interviewer mode. I mean, Rogan didn't help, to be honest. He was in such interviewer mode, he was not looking to, like, connect on a comedic level for whatever reason. So it just. It kind of left him dead. I mean, that's like a tough crowd hang out with. It was pretty funny, dude. It was clearly a joke, too. Roman's like, huh? What? Like, literally left him dead, like, in.
- [40:37]
Brandon
The worst way possible. And he's like, well, I was telling a joke. And he's like, yeah, I guess it could have been funny. Like the worst thing you. You would want to hear from someone after, like, telling. But, yeah, good man.
- [40:52]
Adam Thorne
Good. Well, yeah, look, Santino Legend. I love what he's doing. He just. The podcasts are great. Stand up's great. He's. He's a real true stand up, in my opinion. I love just kind of what he's doing. He's. He's one of the ones that's not gonna burn out, you know, you're not gonna get bored of him. And he's doing great things, so I'm glad that him and Rogan are still tight.
- [41:20]
Brandon
Yeah.
- [41:21]
Adam Thorne
And he's back on the show here, and, yeah, I look forward to seeing what he's up to next.
- [41:29]
Brandon
He even said on. On Bad Friends, he's like, I'm so glad we never kept this podcast political. We never went political with this podcast. And that's cool. I feel like that suits them, you know? But it was so funny seeing him come on this and only talk politics. But, yeah, Santino's.
- [41:47]
Adam Thorne
He's got to get out of his system.
- [41:49]
Brandon
Yeah. Just get it all out, you know, but his specials out now. I'm going to go check it out. But, yeah, perfect.
- [41:55]
Adam Thorne
All right, guys. Well, thank you so much. And we next week.