479 Joe Rogan Experience Review of Jensen Huang

Summary

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Joe Rogan Experience Review Podcast

Episode 479: Review of Joe Rogan Experience #2220 with Jensen Huang

Date: December 8, 2025
Hosts: Adam Thorne & Todd (Joe Rogan Experience Review Podcast)

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Overview

In this episode, Adam and Todd break down Joe Rogan's interview with Jensen Huang, CEO of Nvidia and a pivotal figure in the AI revolution. Their 45-minute debrief explores Huang’s uniquely calming presence, the state and future of artificial intelligence, Nvidia’s unlikely ascent, and the surprising "bedtime story" likability of a tech billionaire. The hosts also reflect on AI's consequences, Nvidia's roots, industry relationships, and share candid impressions of the episode's flow.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Jensen Huang’s Personality & Presence

• First Impressions:
  • Todd admits having no prior exposure to Huang and notes his "calm, monk-like" demeanor.

    "He had a great voice as well. ...dude had a bedtime story voice." (A, 03:01–03:35)

  • Adam references fan comments calling him "the best CEO who's ever been on [Rogan]" and jokes about his signature leather jacket.

    "He was born with that jacket." (A, 03:35–03:45)

2. Joe Rogan’s Interview Style

• The hosts notice Rogan's interview tone is unusually relaxed and non-adulatory compared to his usual approach with billionaires.

  "Joe was way more just chill buddy with. He was even accusing him of like creating Skynet..." (B, 04:04–04:38)

• Appreciation for how Rogan lets Huang speak at length, praising the return to "old Rogan" format.

  "...it's nice to see a tech guy on here who acts like an actual human being... Joe just let him talk, just let him ramble." (A, 35:34–35:48)

3. The AI Revolution: Fears, Hopes & Exponential Change

• Growth Rate: Huang claims AI has improved "100 times in two years," sparking awe and anxiety about exponential advances.

  "AI has increased 100 times in two years." (A, 08:06–08:18) "What's AI look like in another two years? It's crazy to think about." (A, 08:23–08:28)

• Risks, Russian Roulette & Caution:

  • Joe Rogan references Elon Musk’s metaphor: even a 20% chance of disaster is "a Russian roulette game."

    "You take all but two bullets out and spin it. It's still not great... you definitely don't want to play that Russian roulette game." (B, 05:49–06:49)

• Incremental Adoption, Not Skynet Overnight:

  • Huang reassures listeners that AI won’t turn into an overnight monster—advances are incremental and humans will "grow with it."

    "...as AI gets smarter and stronger, we're getting smarter and stronger with it..." (B, 07:06–08:06)

• Abundance & Societal Impact:

  • Optimism around AI creating "abundance" and efficiency; with caveats about inevitable disruption and "robot wars."

    "I think it's gonna be really helpful in a lot of ways. ...There's gonna be art that you can't tell is art... artists that don't even exist..." (B, 13:51–15:07)

4. Nvidia’s Role in AI’s Rise

• Origin Story:

  • Huang’s background—hardscrabble childhood, smoking at 9, Sega days, and almost losing Nvidia—impresses the hosts.

    "He was ripped when he was, like, 10 years old." (B, 20:50–20:56) "That story of him going broke and everything ... it's insane, man." (A, 20:59–21:36)

• Industry Convergences:

  • Early partnership with Elon Musk—Elon as the "first customer" for Nvidia's $300,000 chip—highlighted as an inflection point.

    "It was like, oh, I have this $300,000 chip and Elon's like, I'll buy it. And then boom, there we go." (B, 09:34–10:26)

• Exponential Company Growth:

  • From gaming GPUs to fueling the AI boom, Nvidia's pivot is "worth a trillion dollars or some insane amount." (B, 22:52–23:35)

5. Future of AI—Practical, Social & Ethical Ramifications

• Mini nuclear reactors & power needs:

  • Huang predicts localized nuclear power as AI computation becomes omnipresent.

    "He talked about how he sees in the future there's going to be a bunch of mini nuclear reactors everywhere. Crazy." (A, 08:35–08:48)

• Robots in the Everyday:

  • Joking about future "AI toasters" that answer questions and give toast-based advice. (B & A, 09:08–09:29)
  • Discussion of real security robots and elderly-assistance bots, with concerns about remote piloting and privacy.

• Legislation & Public Awareness:

  • Lawmakers are out of touch—comparison to the Zuckerberg Facebook hearing, predicting "that times a hundred with AI." (A, 19:43–20:10)

6. Cultural Moments & Political Crossovers

• Trump Anecdote:

  • Amusement at the story of Trump calling Rogan at the White House after a conversation about UFC.

    "He tells that story. He's like, I was shooting arrows in my backyard, and then the President calls me." (A, 28:32–28:40)

  • Banter about the UFC event rumored to be hosted at the White House, and Trump potentially singing the national anthem atop the building. (A & B, 29:18–31:13)

• SNL, Comedians & Celebrity AI:

  • Sidebars on Shane Gillis’s Trump impression, SNL politics, and the transformation of tech billionaires into celebrities—contrast between Zuckerberg's "poser" rebrand and Bezos’ villainous yacht style.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Buddy was selling shovels during a gold rush.” (A, 03:35)
• “Joe was way more just chill buddy with... he was even accusing him of, like, creating Skynet.” (B, 04:04)
• "AI has increased 100 times in two years." (A, 08:06)
• "It's not like it just escapes us. And now we're these helpless cavemen. And that is logical." (B, 07:24)
• "I'm down for the Robot Wars. That's something I'm looking forward to." (A, 15:47)
• “Think Milli Vanilli was a scam?... artists that don't even exist that just come out of nowhere.” (B, 13:51–15:07)
• “He's a cool dude, and he's, like, humble. ...He started Fight Club at 10. He was at 11. ...crazy upbringing.” (A, 24:03)
• “He was the Fear Factor guy, for God's sake. ...eat this donkey dick and win a prize.” (B, 29:09)
• "I'll be honest though, dude, out of all the CEO tech guys who have been on, Jensen's my favorite. ...Top guy." (A, 40:20)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:33] — First impressions of Jensen Huang; "bedtime story voice"
• [03:48] — Fan comments and "the jacket"
• [04:38] — Joe's interview approach and AI/Skynet jokes
• [05:49] — Russian roulette AI risk metaphor
• [07:06] — Incremental AI progress vs. sudden apocalypse
• [08:06] — 100x AI progress, future speculation
• [09:34] — Nvidia’s origin story with Elon Musk
• [13:51] — Societal upheaval: jobs, art, robot wars
• [20:59] — Huang’s backstory: Sega, childhood, near-bankruptcy
• [28:32] — Trump calling Rogan, UFC/White House banter
• [35:34] — Praise for Rogan’s "let the guest talk" style
• [40:20] — Jensen as the favorite CEO guest; episode ratings

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Episode Ratings

• Adam: "Solid 8 out of 10." (A, 40:35)
• Todd: "I'm giving it an 8.5. ...I really enjoyed it... a little AI obsessed myself." (B, 40:52)

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Final Takeaways

• Engaging, Candid, and Human: Both hosts recommend the episode, lauding Huang's honesty and relatable story, and Joe's balanced, curious approach. It encapsulates the stakes of AI, from doomsday fears to world-building optimism.
• Recommended For: Any Rogan fan, AI enthusiast, or those interested in the human stories behind tech revolutions.
• General Vibe: Fun, insightful, and surprisingly hopeful amidst one of society’s most pressing frontiers.

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“If you haven’t listened to this episode... check it out. It’s definitely worth it. If you’re into AI or you’re just into good conversations on Rogan, this is definitely up there. Inspired... Two thumbs up for sure.” (B, 41:33)

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Hello and welcome to another episode of the JRE review. We are reviewing episode 2,220. I said that as aie as I could. Jensen Huang.

Is that how you say his last name?

[A]

I'm not the person to ask that. Oh, but it sounded right.

[B]

You're the only person here, so I have to.

[A]

Yeah, well, I thought it sounded right.

[B]

Wait, let's ask AI.

Complexity.

Let's ask those GPUs.

Yeah. What did you. What did you. What was your Feel what was. What did you think of this guy? Also, had you heard him talk before? Were you familiar with him at all?

[A]

I had no idea who he was. It was the first time I've ever heard him talk. I'll be honest, I thought the beginning of the episode was a little choppy. There was some talk about AI that I'm like, I'm not sure how I feel about that. It kind of reminded me of the black guy in Terminator 2. Was it. Or was it Terminator 3? No, like Terminator 2. Who? Like, yeah, Skynet.

But it felt like a, you know, a movie. Felt like a documentary. It was amazing. And he had a great voice as well.

[B]

You know, like super calm sounding. He's like a monk.

[A]

Right. A lot of the comments reflect that too. Like, just looking at some fan reception, people are saying, the best CEO who's ever been on this guy has a very smoothing voice. Dude had a bedtime story voice.

This is an interesting. Buddy was selling shovels during a gold rush. And the Top comment with 11, 000 likes. He was born with that jacket.

[B]

That jacket.

[A]

I noticed right away, dude. And there's a point in the episode where, like, they pull up like him. Like, I forget the context of it, but it was like him in a past interview or something. And Joe's like, hey, you're wearing the same jacket. He's like, what can I say?

[B]

So, yeah, I don't want to say Joe was busted his balls, but Joe was definitely. I don't. I don't want to say Joe has been in like the kind of ass kissing billionaire interview kind of gear before, though. I've kind of seen it with like the super rich guys. He. He was way more just chill buddy with. He was even accusing him of like creating Skynet and potentially wiping out the human race at one point. Like, he was surprised chill with this guy.

[A]

Yeah, I was surprised with how much pushback in the beginning there was. Also because Joe is like, he's gotten to this point where I'm not sure if you watch the guest appearance. I'm blanking on the podcast name where he did a podcast guest appearance recently. And he talks about how like, AI is the next coming of Jesus, yo.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so cool theory. It's an interesting theory. It's kind of a theory you have after, like taking like three gravity bong rips. But for sure it's interesting. It's interesting for sure. But.

Yeah, I was thinking Rogan would be a little more accepting, but Jensen seems to be all in. He Seems to be all in. And he has this argument of, oh, if I ever takes over or my AI will save us. And Joe isn't really all on board with that. And I thought that was interesting because I thought Joe Rogan at this point in his life was just, like, all in with AI. Like, I don't care. Let it do what it has to do.

I'm not sure if you felt that.

[B]

Look, he's definitely very interested in it, but he's cautious of it. He's not sure. Like, he brought up Elong saying, you know, it's 20% bad. And then he gives that Russian roulette metaphor of like, yeah, you take all but two bullets out and spin it. It's still not great. Like, that's not a fun game to play. And that's. That's actually, like, when you hear, oh, it's only 20 chances of it going bad, 20% doesn't sound like that much. But you definitely don't want to play that Russian roulette game. So it's actually quite dangerous. And, you know, that's really how he sees it. And, you know, for. To be fair, I mean, for. For Jensen, of course he's all in. You know, of course he's saying his one is going to save the. I mean, he would be pretty crap at his job if he was like, yeah, I.

Run all this stuff. I'm, like, part of the creator of this. I'm at the head of all of this thinking and also think it will kill us all.

[A]

Yeah. He's like, don't worry. I have my own army of T1000s that will take care of us. It's a little crazy.

[B]

I. I did appreciate what he was saying, though. Like, I think the big takeaway for me and his big point is, like, look, it's not. I. I kind of envisioned it the opposite of what he was saying. It's like, one day we wake up and the AI has kind of come alive. It's that Skynet moment. And he's like, no, it's incremental stages, and it's with us the whole time. Like, we have it as tools as we go along. Like, as the AI gets smarter and stronger, we're getting smarter and stronger with it because we have the tools that it provides. It's not like it just escapes us. And now we're these helpless cavemen. And that is logical. It makes sense to me. So he was just. Maybe he was tricking me, but he seemed to be very good at explaining these quite complex ideas in A pretty digestible way, which I appreciate.

[A]

I agree. I agree 100%. And something that was crazy to learn. And he talked about this a little bit, but he said that AI has increased 100 times in two years.

[B]

That's nuts.

Yeah, that's nuts.

[A]

What's AI look like in another two years? It's crazy to think about.

[B]

And didn't he say that it also uses like a hundred times less power for the same computation as well? Yeah.

[A]

And he talked about how he sees in the future there's going to be a bunch of mini nuclear reactors everywhere. Crazy. I don't know what the world's going to look like in 2030 at this point.

[B]

Well, we need a lot of power power to run these things for sure. AI is going to be in, integrated in almost everything because it's just going to be so useful. It's like, why not just and cheap. So just stick it in everything. I mean there'd be an AI toaster for sure. Why not? You just ask it questions.

[A]

How's it going?

[B]

It has all the answers, but it always makes them a little bit toast related.

[A]

Why doesn't my wife love me anymore? It's like, well, it's like because you're.

[B]

A bit of a dick. But also try eating more bagels.

[A]

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[B]

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Yeah, I think it's just gonna be, you know, integrated in kind of all sorts of things. And like he said, these chips are just getting so advanced he's just miniaturizing them down. I did not know that really it was him and Elon that basically started this whole AI push. I mean I knew Elon was part of OpenAI and there was that big fight between Elon and Sam Altman Because OpenAI went public and it was supposed to be like a non profit thing and or whatever it was for profit and that whole fight. But yeah, I didn't know that. It was like, oh, I have this $300,000 chip and Elon's like, I'll buy it. And then boom, there we go.

[A]

He's like my first customer.

[B]

What a wild coming together of things. I mean it at that point, it's kind of undeniable now that Elon is like really shaping the future of humanity. Love him or hate him, it's, it's undeniable.

[A]

His impact is real for sure. And like people always point to his time in the White House and then.

[B]

Well, that's why most people will hate him now or a lot of people do for sure.

[A]

And then you look at this episode and it's like, wow. Especially when it comes to AI and everything.

Do you feel like this episode convinced you that it's okay? Like the AI takeover is going to be all right? Because that's. That seemed like that was his whole goal of, like, easing people. It's going to be fine. We have backup. Or do you feel, if anything, more concern?

[B]

No, I have. You know, honestly, I haven't been all that concerned. Maybe I'm just naive, but I haven't been number one. I know it can't be stopped and it's coming anyway.

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I think it's going to be helpful I think it's going to outsource a lot of things for people. I think it's going to ultimately create a bunch of abundance. You know, like what he's saying about this abundance thing. And Elon has been saying that too. Like, I think it's true. I don't think that they're just making stuff up. Like, they have a good idea. It's not a trick. Like, they see that this is going to make a lot of things work really well and become super efficient. And I think it's gonna be really helpful in a lot of ways. It's gonna save a bunch of lives. It's gonna do a bunch of good things. Sure. There's gonna be a ton of adjustments that are gonna come with it, and there'd be job impacts. And, you know, all kinds of stuff is gonna happen. Like, we're gonna. A lot of people are gonna have to pivot, and there's gonna be a lot of trickery along the way. Like, you know, there's gonna be art that you can't tell is art. There's gonna be music that you can't tell is made by any. You think Milli Vanilli was a scam? Like, it's gonna be whole artists that don't even exist that just come out of nowhere.

You know, there could even be, like, a comedian that's writing his whole sets. He's not funny at all. And it's. All of his sets are just, you know, AI for sure. And, I mean, there'd be a bunch of things changing. But, no, I don't think that it's this doom and gloom and there will be some nasty things. There's going to be some hacks, there's going to be some AI used very maliciously for a bunch of problematic shit. There's probably going to be robots used in war that's going to be pretty scary and nasty. But that's just fucking technology, baby. They're always doing that. That's nothing new.

[A]

I'm down for the Robot Wars. That's something I'm looking forward to. That seems fun. It seems like, you know, both sides get Xbox controllers and just duke it out with robots. That seems like a good progression where nobody does. Exactly.

[B]

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[A]

No, that can't be real.

[B]

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Let me see if I can find it. All right, I'm sending it to you right now. Get your phone ready.

[A]

Be real.

[B]

All right. Oh, sounds on. Sorry, this is live. All right, grab your phone. Check this out. So it says the CEO of Engine AI I can't read his name, but he takes a kick to the body by the T800.

[A]

He can't be real.

[B]

He gets wrecked. This thing can kick.

[A]

Why? Why does it attack him?

[B]

Well, it's kicking robot just showing, like, how good their balance is.

[A]

Oh, damn.

[B]

Yeah. Holy. Dude, that thing would wreck you if it kicked you.

[A]

That's.

[B]

How long. How long before, like, we. There's straight up security guards that are just robots. You're not going to be able to do anything to them.

[A]

All. Every comment is just a Terminator Gif.

[B]

Just that robot head looking pissed off.

[A]

Yeah. Some people are saying it's fake. I don't know. It looks real, though.

[B]

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[A]

That's crazy. Well, if that's the future, hey, you know, I feel like in the future, the. The Stop and Shop robot will be kicking my ass or something. I think that's only a New England grocery store, but in New England we have Stop and Shops and there's a little robot that patrols the store. It's like, it's. Yeah, it looks like a. Like a R2D2 thing. It has wheels. It just patrols the store. What is honestly intent? I honestly have no idea.

[B]

Is it like. I don't know.

[A]

I don't think it's cleaning. I like. I still don't know what the. It does. It has eyes and everything.

[B]

Huh. Maybe it's just like recording shoplifters.

[A]

Maybe, you know, but in the future, if it's for shoplifters, it's probably going to be the thing you just showed me. Or it just kicks you in the fucking gut. Yeah, it's crazy.

[B]

It just boots you right out of the store.

[A]

But I know right now there's companies. I forget what it is, but there's a company that does sell a robot that, you know, for the elderly. It follows you around. It helps you with chores and everything. It's creepy as fuck. It has, like this like. Like cloth outer layer, and it has this blank face with just two eyes. It's the creepiest fucking thing I've ever seen.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I think I've seen that, but I don't think that's actually an AI. I think it's, like, run by. It's, like, remotely run by people with, like, headsets.

[A]

Yeah, I saw that. There was a bit of a controversy that.

The company can take over the robot if, like, there's a task it doesn't understand. Some dude, you know, in India with a headset just, like, goes into the robot, is controlling the robot now, which.

[B]

Seems problematic, doesn't it? It's, like rifling through your, like, jewelry. Like, now.

[A]

You know, this is going to be such an interesting time for America because. And for the world because. Remember that whole thing with Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg when he went to trial, and it's like, well, are you taking people's data? And like, every. All the lawmakers just were so out of touch.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

No fucking clue how any of this shit worked. Now it's that times like a hundred with AI, Right?

[B]

So could you imagine Nancy Pelosi up there trying to, like, talk her way through what AI is? She's, like, 30.

[A]

Yeah. She's gonna. She'll. She'll be, you know, worth 10 times. She is now with the.

All the. The stock and everything.

[B]

She's probably buying Nvidia stock as we speak.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, It's. It's ridiculous, but crazy world. We'll see what happens with AI. This dude is a badass. Jensen, he was talking about smoking cigs at 9.

You know, we were calling him a nerd off air, but this guy's kind of a badass.

[B]

He's obviously cool.

[A]

He was ripped when he was, like, 10 years old. He was saying it's crazy.

[B]

Showing off a little bit on the pod.

[A]

I thought this episode was just so great because it felt like a documentary or you were listening to, like, an audiobook because his story is so crazy with Sega and everything. What did you think of, like, that. That story of him going broke and everything and working with the CEO because it's. It's insane, man. And I was, like, kind of shocked with all the story beats and being like, hey, if you don't pay me this $5 million, like, it's over for me. Like, I need the money or my company evaporates it, like, overnight. Want to buy your way?

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[A]

Yeah, and the dude of the. You know, the CEO was like, well, I think you're a cool guy, so I'm just going to give you the money. And look at him now. So, yeah, crazy.

[B]

You know, I. Some of these rich guys, when they all know each other, I mean, there's like, a trust element in there, too. If they're like, I like your vision, you know, they know that sometimes these guys come up against some hard times and, you know, pretty much Elon could bet the. Now it would be very difficult for him to go broke because he's so mega, mega rich. But if he bet the house on something huge and lost it all, some other billionaires would just give him some money because, you know, he's such a visionary. And this guy Jensen's similar.

And sometimes you got to pivot with these ideas. I mean, think how he's changed. Like, Nvidia has been around for ages. Those graphics cards, I remember them back in, like, the early 2000s, like, my friends getting the new Nvidia and, like, plugging it in and getting two of them running in parallel so they could play, like, Half Life 2 or whatever the game was, and she'd be like, yeah, I'm really ramping up my graphics on this big old monitor. And it was just, you know, they were cool pieces of tech, and now all of a sudden, you know, he tries it on something else, and look at the company. It's worth, what, a trillion dollars or some insane amount?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, it's a. It's a pretty fucking expensive leather jacket he's got on, I'll tell you.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Do you think he just has one or he has, like, a. An entire wardrobe with, like, hundreds of the same one in Hundreds of the.

[A]

Same one, for sure. I. Yeah, I think. Yeah, it's like. That's like spongebob.

[B]

Yeah, his version of, like, his autism.

[A]

It's just that he's definitely autistic.

Yeah, I. I thought that it was such a cool story, and it really made me, like, appreciate him, because in the beginning, I was kind of like, all right, you're just the Skynet guy. Awesome. And then he told that story, and I was like, oh, that's actually kind of cool. And he comes from humble beginnings. And he was ripping six at nine. You know, he's. He started Fight Club at 10. He was at 11. It was. He had a crazy upbringing, so. Yeah, I thought it was. He's a cool dude, and he's, like, humble. Like, just. He seems like a great guy to talk to. And it seemed like he wanted to keep talking because this episode was, like, two and a half hours. It wasn't even the whole three.

[B]

Yeah. So, yeah, sometimes I wish I knew why they cut off early when the conversation is good. And sometimes Joe alludes to it. He's like, oh, I gotta catch it. Like, hearsay. Oh, I know you gotta catch a flight, or I've got to get to the Comedy Store. Or like, you know, hearsay, Something like that. But other times, it just. The. He just wraps it up and it's like, huh, I wonder why that was.

[A]

Yeah. Especially with how great of an episode this was, because it felt like, I.

[B]

Think he just needs to pee more now that he's older.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, that could be it. Also, a lot of people noticed, and, like, even on Reddit, the. The place that's most critical about this podcast, people really liked how Joe just let him talk, just let him ramble. And as a fan, I. I do really like that as well, because this guy had such an interesting story. And a lot of these episodes are kind of just Joe being like, all right, here's my take on everything. And just talking at Andrew Santino or something where this. I'm like, wow, this feels like it. We're. We're back to, like, old Rogan here with a lot of it where it was like, Rogan has a really interesting guy on who he just wants to hear talk, and he just lets him talk. But. Well, I was kind of surprised that it was only two and a half hours. I thought. I thought, you know, there's a lot more to. To take out of this episode. Also, the John Cena episode after this, I believe, was only, like, two hours. Right. I know that one wasn't the full three. I can check.

[B]

Two hours. Eleven.

[A]

Yeah. So, I don't know. Interesting.

It's. It's.

[B]

Maybe he had a Make a Wish he had to get to.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Big into that.

[A]

Yeah. Had to go see Brian Redban or something. But, yeah, I. I don't know. It's.

I. I really wish this episode was longer. I'm not sure how you feel about it, but.

[B]

Well, there's definitely room for more. You know, I think he's going to come on again. And, you know, because he's just such a big player in the world of AI now. And I think this conversation was really well received. And, you know, there's optics on what Nvidia is doing in the AI space, and people have opinions on it, so he can kind of get ahead of it with a platform like Rogan's. So, yeah, to get on there. And. And since he's not like, there's just nothing kind of nefarious about him. He seems so genuine, and he's not really stirring the pot. You know, he's not like a Palantir guy. He's not trying to fuck with the government. He's just offering even. Just a piece of the technology. Right. He's not even like a Sam Altman. He's not an overlord of an entire AI. He's just like, hey, here's the pieces you need to build this. Here's the wheels for your Ferrari. And then all the Ferraris are just driving around a track, smashing into each other. It's like, well, that's not my fault. I just gave you wheels. So he's kind of just, I'm going to buy more leather jackets. See you later.

[A]

Exactly. There was a bit of Trump talk as well. He was. He was glazing Trump a little bit, and.

[B]

Yeah, that's true, that's true. But, you know, it's also, like, in that position, I think he would have been doing the same sort of thing if. If someone else was president, but he's just saying, hey, I'm working with the president. And, you know, they brought you up and they made a phone call. I mean, that is kind of surreal that him and Trump were hanging out. They start talking about the ufc, and then Joe comes up, and Trump's just like, let's call Joe, dude.

[A]

And Joe was. He tells that story. He's like, I was shooting arrows in my backyard, and then the President of the United States calls me. Yeah.

[B]

He just looks at his phone, he's like, oh, shit, I gotta take this.

[A]

Oh, shit. The president, to be fair, I mean.

[B]

You'Re taking that call. Even if you're someone that fucking hates Trump, you're still gonna take it. But, dude, it's just gonna be like, okay, you know.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. But it's just so surreal how, like, where Joe is in the state of things, like, this was a dude at the Comedy Store, and now he's like, like, what has happened, dude?

[B]

He was the Fear Factor guy, for God's sake. He was like, eat this donkey dick and win a prize.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And now the President's like, yo, Joe, what's up? What's going on? Come to. You know, dude, I mean, just think about it. Next year, and I know this is a little bit like, idiocracy, but I'm a huge UFC fan, so I don't really care. The UFC is going to be hosted at the White House. What I'm pumped about is that forces them to have probably the best UFC card of all time. It's just going to be nothing but title fights. And they're throwing Conor McGregor in there. It's Jon Jones is. It's just going to be like, if they can pull that off, it'd be the best UFC they've ever done. And Joe's going to be right there commentating. The guests are going to be insane. Everyone who's anyone will be there. And it's going to be right in the middle of that, just, you know, yammering away like he always is, like, oh, kicked him in the head.

[A]

Like, dude, no matter where you are in the political spectrum, you are seeing that fucking fight.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

At the White House.

[B]

You gotta watch it.

Dude. And I. And I guess with the new deal of Paramount plus, because all the. They just had the last pay per view of all time of the ufc, that was just on Saturday, so they're not doing that anymore. It's all. As long as you have Paramount plus streaming UFCs are free for you. You just can watch them. So I assume the right White House one will be the same. It'll be under that contract, which really gives everyone access to watch it. So it'll be watched by. It'd be the fucking super bowl, dude.

[A]

I hope Trump sings the national anthem. That'd be awesome.

On top of the White House.

[B]

Oh, could you imagine his cadence, too?

[A]

Fighter jets go over him. That would be beautiful, dude. I would cry, dude. So American.

[B]

For real. For real. Shane Gillis is going to be there. You know that. Rogan will get him in. And if they could. If they could get Shane to just do his impression in front of Trump, I would really appreciate that, guys.

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Siemen mobile.com I'm sure, I'm sure Trump's seen it. I don't know what he thinks about it, but it is the best one. And yeah, to get those two together, doing that impression would be dope.

[A]

It's the best one for sure. And Trump in the past has been very iffy about impressions of him or anyone in his cabinet.

[B]

He does not like it.

[A]

So. But Shane Gillis, I don't know man. It's pretty good.

[B]

We'll find out.

[A]

He doesn't. The whole impression isn't just him going fuck Trump. You know, I don't know, he's.

[B]

Or at least he was very pro Trump. So that's a positive impression. Whereas, you know, Alec, what's his name? Bob, Is it Baldwin?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

He's definitely not pro. Even though his impression was quite funny.

[A]

Mm.

[B]

Yeah, it was pretty.

[A]

That was like the first.

[B]

Like that one. The guy that they have now on SNL is not good.

[A]

I don't like him.

[B]

Yeah, I don't care for that. Do you know that they offered Shane Gillis a contract just to come in and do Trump, and he turned it down. Yeah, they wanted him just to do all the Trump bits for the year. And he said no.

[A]

Yeah, it's like, off, like, right after everything you put me through, you know?

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Yeah. And then you got Camp Patterson on that. Now I'm still waiting for Cam Patterson to be on Rogan, but I think that would be the most fucked up conversation of all time. I don't think they could be more opposite people.

But, yeah, I don't know. I thought this episode was good. I enjoyed.

[B]

Definitely was. It was a good conversation. I was surprised. I thought it would be kind of nerdier of, you know. Also, the AI stuff has been dragging a little bit on Rogan's because it's just popping up with everybody. So it was kind of nice to have this. It's like, all right, since it's coming up all the time anyway, at least bring the top guy on. And, you know, the last time Sam Altman was on, that was just weird. I thought. So it's either bringing Elon back on to talk about it or another one of these big AI guys. And. And I think he was the best version of it. So hopefully when there's more big AI stuff to kind of go over, you know, we get him back on.

[A]

Yeah. Well, it's just nice to see a tech guy on here who acts like an actual human being. You know what I mean? Because, like, say what you want about Elon, but he is a little tapped. He is a little crazy when it comes to having a normal conversation with him.

[B]

Well, once he starts laughing at his own jokes, yeah, it's. It's kind of difficult to reel him in. And.

[A]

And then you have, like, Mark Zuckerberg, where this isn't, like, you know, AI stuff.

[B]

Mark was trying too hard to be cool and to be like, one of the bros, and I'm like, just be yourself, dude. You know, I just feel like this whole Mark Zuckerberg 2.0, it's like, it's not working as well for him is Bezos. Bezos just went, I'm doing a bunch of roids. I'm gonna get jacked. I'm gonna get a smoke show second wife, and I'm gonna just chill on a yacht and look like a super villain from Superman. And he pulled it off. Nailed it. He went from absolute nerd to, like, looking like a bro.

[A]

Lex Luthor. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. And I'm like, wow. And then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, Zuckerberg is like wearing, you know, V neck tees and he's got a gold chain and loves his sunglasses and he's surfing and I'm like, yeah, it's. Nah, he's got the broccoli haircut, you know? Yeah. He comes on Rogan and pretends he bow hunts. And Rogan's just like, really? What kind of bow?

[A]

He's like, yeah, he's like the one with a string, you know, I can't.

[B]

Remember what kind of release.

Just gets demolished.

[A]

Yeah, just. Fucking poser, you know? Yeah, bit of.

[B]

Bit of poser, I think, you know, but they wait. Honestly though, didn't Elon do that with it, with his video games? Didn't he get caught out actually not being the best? Did they ever get to the bottom.

[A]

Of that video game lying? Yeah, it happened. It's confirmed.

[B]

Because he was saying he's the best Diablo player, but then he.

[A]

He video game lied. What.

[B]

What is the point of that? You're already the best at a bunch of other stuff that's real and actually important. Who cares if you're good at Diablo?

[A]

Now there's some psychology right there. Yeah, yeah, that's. I don't know.

[B]

It's like being the richest man in the world isn't enough. You got to be the best at Diablo. If you want to be the best at Diablo, get a bunch of people that are really good at it and have it. Pay them to teach you.

[A]

Buy some monster energy drinks, buy some ramen, you know? Yeah.

[B]

Take a couple of weeks off of firing rockets, building cars, and just practice loads.

[A]

Yeah. Just. Just completely immerse yourself in Diablo. And I bet you'd still, if you're.

[B]

Going to cheat at it, at least get good enough to where when you like live streaming or however he got caught, that you can just kind of fake it for a bit.

[A]

Yeah. And he did because he livestreamed and everyone's like, dude, he kind of sucks.

[B]

Yeah, he's like clicking on the same shit like five times. It's like, what is he doing?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now, with all due respect, he might have just been on a ketamine binge. I mean, I feel like we're talking. We're talking a lot of Elon right now. We're just messing with the Elon. Don't get mad at us. We're big fans.

[A]

He's very easy to. Because. Because he's so unique. Like just the. The.

The video game lying and stuff. And like, he's just a crazy guy. Like the flamethrower and everything. And just how that was fun on Rogan is so, like, so out there. Yeah, he's one of the most unique people, I think.

[B]

Like, I'm glad he and Rogan are tight. I really am. I, you know, I. Like we said the last time.

He was on Rogan, it wasn't the best conversation because it was kind of like politically ended and focused and a few other elements that just kind of made it, I don't know, just not the best. But yeah, I'm glad that the wealthiest man in the world is tight with the most listened to man in the world. I think that that's a good, positive connection there.

[A]

They make for fun conversations, for sure.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, it's. It's an odd matchup too. It's kind of cool that Rogan can get on with these nerds, but, like, he's a bit of a nerd. He used to build computers and play Quake all day. Like, he's definitely got nerd in him for sure.

[A]

I'll be honest though, dude, out of all the CEO tech guys who have been on, Jensen's my favorite. Really saying it right here, right now. Yeah.

[B]

Top guy. Yeah. You know what? He might be up there for me. What did you rate this episode out of 10? What do you give this?

[A]

You know, some of the like T800 stuff was a bit of a turnoff, but I have to say, you know, his story and his life story and just having him talk was just great to hear. For me, solid 8 out of 10.

[B]

Not bad. I'm giving it an 8.5. Giving it a high one. I really enjoyed it, you know, but I'm a little. I'm a little I obsessed as well. I've been tinkering with this hours a day since chat 3, so all about it.

[A]

It's a podcast too, where hopefully in 10 years, when we look back at this, we don't think, oh, I'm glad he said that because it's right. Or we'll look back at this like sitting in a bunker and be like.

[B]

We look back on it as a robot kicks us down the stairs.

[A]

In the gut. Too brutal. I love it.

[B]

I love it. Well, yeah, great. Man. 8 and 8.5. If you haven't listened to this episode, this interview on Rogan, check it out. It's definitely worth it. If you're into AI or you're just into good conversations on Rogan. This is. This is definitely up there. Inspired, you know, Totally. Two thumbs up for sure. Anyway, that's it for us. And yeah, wait till the end of the week, we're going to start doing some shorter reviews. We're just going to cover the whole week and do that just a couple of days, if not one day after the last episode of the week comes out. Those episodes are probably like 10, 15 minutes, nice and short, just to kind of COVID everything, you know, so you don't have to sit and listen to us ramble on for 45 minutes over one episode. But gives you just kind of a feel for the week. And I think that's just a good clue to maybe spark your interest in which one to listen to. And then later in the week, we'll pop out a couple of reviews of our favorite ones and just kind of go from there. But thank you, as always. And from Adam and Brandon, we love you guys.

[A]

Later. Love you.