493 JRE Review of Shane Gillis

Summary

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Joe Rogan Experience Review Podcast

Episode 493: JRE Review of Shane Gillis
Host(s): Adam Thorne & Brandon
Date: January 23, 2026

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Episode Overview

This week’s episode dives deep into the recent Joe Rogan Experience episode featuring comedian Shane Gillis. Adam and Brandon explore why Gillis resonates so strongly with audiences, break down the significance of his latest career moves, analyze hot-button topics raised during the Rogan show—including controversial debates, big-money comedy deals, and the continuing evolution of JRE—and provide a pulse-check on how the fan communities are receiving it all. The co-hosts also speculate about future JRE directions, especially regarding polarizing guests and the ever-present rumors of influential behind-the-scenes figures.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Shane Gillis Effect

• Relatable Comedy & Down-to-Earth Persona
  • The hosts highlight why Shane's average-guy charm underpins his rapid rise:
    • “He's never gonna tell any jokes about how annoying it is to take a shit in a gold toilet. He's always gonna be a regular dude that wears T-shirts that he looks like he found and hoodies that are just, you know, barely fit him.” —Brandon (03:50)
  • They compare Gillis’ style favorably to comics who seem remote from the average fan (e.g., Kevin Hart’s “eighth car” routine).
• Career Trajectory and Netflix Deal
  • Shane's $50M+ Netflix deal, co-creation and success of "Tires," additional specials, and a feature film in the works are discussed, along with anecdotes about the show’s underdog beginnings and viral success.
    • “He would have happily given other investors a big chunk of this. And now none of them get a piece along with this deal, which is awesome.” —Brandon (04:18)
  • The co-hosts praise Gillis’ jump to national stadium shows:
    • “Sold out Madison Square Garden. He did the Philadelphia Lincoln Financial Field. Over 60,000 fans in attendance. Can you believe that? For stand-up comedy, dude, 60,000 people.” —Brandon (05:40)
• Potential for Mainstream Crossover
  • Speculation on Gillis’s acting chops and the possibility that his mainstream movie debut could launch him into “Chappelle territory” as a generational comedy talent.

2. Podcast Chemistry & Gillis’s Presence

• Barroom Appeal
  • “He's just some dude that you hang out with when you go to the dive bar, throw some beers back, watch some football with him. He's so likable. And he seems like everyone's friend and everyone wants that kind of friend.” —Adam (10:35)
• Impact on Other Comedy Shows
  • Noting his effect on "Kill Tony," the hosts emphasize Gillis’ ability to elevate every panel:
    • “It just doesn't really happen with Shane. He's always got something. You just gotta hang around for it. He brings the end.” —Brandon (13:17)
  • They recount favorite improv moments, like his Trump impression and bug-collector interview on “Kill Tony.”
    • “When he's Trump, dude…so funny. So funny.” —Adam (13:21)
  • The chemistry with Adam Ray despite no prior relationship is held up as an example of spontaneous comic brilliance (14:20).

3. Hot Topic: Nick Fuentes & The JRE’s Culture Wars

• Fuentes’ Debate Skills and Potential Rogan Invite
  • Long discussion on the Piers Morgan vs. Nick Fuentes interview, with both hosts acknowledging Fuentes’ adeptness at debate and humor’s role as a rhetorical weapon.
    • “When Shane said…‘Nick is hilarious’—that alone is a hell of a compliment to have…Shane Gillis saying he's funny as fuck is crazy.” —Brandon (17:39)
  • They note how Fuentes’ irreverence and wit make him a dangerous debater.
• Should Rogan Have Fuentes On?
  • Adam and Brandon debate whether Rogan might actually invite Fuentes, considering external and internal pressures.
    • “If he’s curious to talk to somebody and people are telling him not to or he feels that pressure, I don't think that that's the Joe Rogan that you and I know.” —Brandon (21:55)
  • They draw parallels to past controversies (Alex Jones, Sam Harris) and discuss Rogan’s resistance to being pressured on guest bookings.
• Power & Influence: Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, etc.
  • Extended speculation about the relationship between Rogan and major tech figures, particularly Peter Thiel.
    • “It was a lot of people, like Brett Weinstein…featured on the podcast who were just, like, associates of Peter Thiel. And it's like, what's going on?” —Adam (26:34)
  • Duncan Trussell’s old warnings about platform manipulation are cited as newly relevant.

4. Shifting Eras of JRE & Media Landscape

• Rogan as a Media "Billionaire"
  • The team suggests Rogan’s media influence rivals the financial reach of billionaire tech moguls—cementing his independence.
• Old vs. New Guard of Political & Media Voices
  • Pondering changing generational alignments and Rogan’s sway over public figures’ reputations.

5. The Trump Segment: Politics, Plaques, and UFC at the White House

• Trump Criticism: Plaques & Social Media Outrage
  • The hosts call out Trump for lack of empathy in responses to critics’ deaths and the controversial White House plaque:
    • “Just say nothing. Like, where's your humanity? Crazy? Because, like, as the president, you're kind of supposed to show an example…” —Adam (46:15)
    • “The plaque literally says the worst president in history under the Joe Biden thing and that he stole the election as like, this is history.” —Brandon (49:46)
  • Both liken the current political climate to a live-action episode of The Simpsons or Idiocracy.
• UFC Event at the White House
  • News about a UFC event—possibly featuring Conor McGregor and Jon Jones—on the White House lawn is described as both “batshit” and perfectly American.
    • “A UFC event at the White House is the most, like, American ever. Like, it's going to be…” —Adam (52:53)
  • The hosts note both a sense of absurdity and awe, capturing the moment's cultural surrealism.

6. Online Fan Reactions & Community Pulse

• Fan Response
  • An overview of social reactions (Reddit, X, YouTube), noting a good overall engagement and some criticisms that the episode wasn’t wall-to-wall jokes:
    • “Some call the episode classic old school Rogan mix storytelling. People liked it, you know, historical sports, politics, discussions…Some said kind of unfunny. Which…I think because Shane's on there that you kind of expect more in the way of comedy.” —Brandon (54:09)
  • Top YouTube comment: “This makes up for having Tom Segura on the other day.” [54:48]
• Host Ratings
  • Adam: 6/10. Brandon: 6.5/10. They judged the episode as good, with some standout moments but not a classic.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Gillis’s Everyman Humor:
  • “He just seems like such an average dude, and that's what makes him so funny.” —Adam (03:46)
• On Gillis’s Stand-Up Success:
  • “He did the Philadelphia Lincoln Financial Field. Over 60,000 fans in attendance. Can you believe that? For standup comedy, dude, 60,000 people.” —Brandon (05:40)
• On Fuentes as a Debater:
  • “If he doesn't like the way things are going, he can just completely collapse your side of the argument with a riff that just is a mic drop.” —Brandon (17:51)
• On Trump’s Outrageousness:
  • “The plaque literally says the worst president in history under the Joe Biden thing and that he stole the election as like, this is history. This is a historical record.” —Brandon (49:45)
• On the State of American Culture:
  • “A UFC event at the White House is the most, like, American ever…It's so American. It's just such an American thing. But it's, it's also, like, fucking batshit.” —Adam (52:53)
• Fan Community:
  • “Top comment on YouTube for this episode: ‘This makes up for having Tom Segura on the other day.’ 18,000 likes.” —Adam (54:48)

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Timeline of Major Segments

• 01:30 — Shane Gillis on beer, football, jobs, and life philosophy
• 03:45 — Why Shane’s so funny; authenticity compared to celebrity comedians
• 04:30 — Deep dive into Gillis’s Netflix/Tires/standup success
• 07:08 — Shane’s career compared to Louis CK’s pre-cancellation heights
• 10:35 — Gillis’s likability and acting range
• 13:16 — Gillis’s impact on "Kill Tony" and comedic improvisation
• 14:20 — Chemistry with Adam Ray; spontaneous comedic brilliance
• 15:00 — Transition to Nick Fuentes, his debate prowess, and Piers Morgan interview
• 21:55 — Will Rogan host Fuentes amid external pressure? Power, Thiel, and independence discussion
• 29:47 — Tech billionaires, palantir, and Rogan’s influencer power
• 43:40 — Trump segment: plaque controversy, empathy (or lack thereof), and Ron Reiner Twitter spat
• 52:03 — UFC event at the White House—commentary on American spectacle
• 54:00 — Online and Reddit feedback; final episode scores and comments

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Final Thoughts

Adam and Brandon offer informed, sometimes irreverent, commentary that bridges the world of podcast superfans and Rogan’s broader cultural critics. The analysis of Shane Gillis is energetic and celebratory, while rumination on JRE’s political and cultural influence is more speculative and sometimes meta-critical. The episode ultimately lands as a solid review episode—not a comedy festival, but packed with smart takes and sharp criticisms, especially on polarizing political and media developments.

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Hosts’ Ratings:

• Adam: 6/10
• Brandon: 6.5/10
• Reddit Avg: 7.5/10

Listener verdict: Generally positive, particularly for hardcore fans interested in JRE's media footprint, contemporary comedy, and meta-analysis of the Rogan universe.

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Transcript

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[Shane Gillis]

Babe's there. She's pretty.

[Adam Thorne]

You gotta get a dad now at 18.

[Shane Gillis]

Yeah, but then that's when your fanhood of college football becomes greater. You go, dude, I get three hours on Saturday. I can't wait. Who do we have? Ah, Central Michigan. It's gonna be a blowout.

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[Shane Gillis]

I'm gonna have beers. That's good stuff. Then you get to golf. You go, I suck at golf. Who gives a shit? I'm getting wasted. Good life, I'm jealous of. It does sound like a good life, but it's also a difficult one. Like, for sure. But that's the best life.

[Adam Thorne]

Is it?

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[Adam Thorne]

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[Shane Gillis]

It's the point.

[Adam Thorne]

Why is it? Why is good and difficult the best life?

[Shane Gillis]

That's what makes. That's what makes going to that bar so sick. You know what I mean? Having a shitty job. Shitty job? Yeah. You sit down, you go, bro, let me tell you about how shitty my job is. Yeah, You Go get hammered. Three beers, in you go. My job rules. My life rules.

[Brandon]

That is Shane Gillis at his best, talking about what it's like to have a shitty job and have a few beers, and then all of a sudden, life is a lot better. I like it. And you know what I love about that? And that's just Shane just describing something just off the cuff. But it's a breakdown of why his comedy is so good. He just has a real feel for, like, the kind of unwrapping of what everybody understands about what's going on around you. In the simplest way, he just sees the world like that.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah. He's also just so in touch with people. You know, he doesn't seem like he's so far away from reach. Especially some of those, like, Kevin Hart specials where he's like, isn't it like so annoying when you get that eighth car and. And you only have five garages where Shane Gillis, he just seems like just the best dude to drink with.

[Shane Gillis]

Sure.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Adam Thorne]

He just. He just seems like such an average dude, and that's what makes him so funny.

[Brandon]

He's never gonna tell any jokes about how annoying it is to take his shit in a gold toilet. He's always gonna be a regular dude that wears T shirts that he looks like he found and hoodies that are just, you know, barely fit him. And it's just, he's. He's a regular dude that happens to be worth probably $50 million. Quick update with Shane. Some big news is coming. Big success for Shane. Major collaboration with John McKeev. McKeever. That's it. Signed a huge Netflix deal. Have you heard about this, Brandon?

[Adam Thorne]

I did.

[Brandon]

Kicked off for season three of Tires. Of course, they're like co creators, executive producers, the whole thing. What's wild about this is because nobody would invest in this show to start with, so Shane had to put up all the money and like backload it with like future tour date money because they knew he was good for it. The fact that the show took off, now he is just banking everything. And he would have happily given other investors a big chunk of this. And now none of them get a piece along with this deal, which is awesome. There's like, I think three more comedy specials set up. There's I think a movie in the works or maybe a couple of movies. A possible another season or another series that they have. I mean, I don't know how big this deal is or how much this is worth, but to put it in perspective, the last season hit over 25 million views. They just know it's gold. You know, everything was Shane is gold. Sold out Madison Square Garden. He did the Philadelphia Lincoln Financial Field. Over 60,000 fans in attendance. Can you believe that? For standup comedy, dude, 60,000 people.

[Adam Thorne]

That's insane. Just so insane. And the fact that Netflix is just handing them him the keys to the.

[Brandon]

Castle, they're like, take it.

[Adam Thorne]

Do whatever you want. Movies, shows, specials, porn, whatever you want to do. Will host it most.

[Brandon]

Yeah, it's incredible, but it makes sense. I mean, it does get to a point where it's so clear that an investment makes sense, that it's like, yeah, just pay anything. The stock price just gets to the point where it's, yeah, it's through the roof, but you're still not going to lose. They're not going to lose.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah. It's honestly just exactly like that. And it's so interesting to see this deal happen because Louis CK got like almost the same exact deal right before he got canceled in 2017. It was like three specials. I don't think there was like a new show that was going to happen as well. And it's just crazy to see that Shane is like, wow, he's there now.

[Brandon]

Yep. So if I have one piece of advice for Shane, please do not jerk off in front of any other comedians. Please just don't do that. One thing if you can, please.

[Adam Thorne]

He would look so stupid doing that.

[Brandon]

It'd be terrible. It'd look worse than worse than Louis. But think about it. I mean, yeah, as long as there's.

[Adam Thorne]

No Ken Burns documentary happening in the background, I think he's fine.

[Brandon]

But talk about going in different directions. I mean, or multi talent. I mean, he has. When his show ties comes out, he went straight to number one.

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[Brandon]

So that's a number one show series. Comedy series on Netflix. Right. So that already puts him in like the Chappelle kind of category of number one in stand up. Number one in comedy TV series.

[Adam Thorne]

Right.

[Brandon]

But then also he's number one in podcasting, which is another area. I mean, Rogan is still number one, but I mean, the Matt and Shane show is like a massive podcast. Yeah.

[Adam Thorne]

And with this movie coming out, if this movie takes off and is just amazing and excellent, the doors fly open. Like, then Shane is on a whole nother level.

[Brandon]

And he can act. He's good.

[Adam Thorne]

He can. He can. But it's like you have this mainstream audience who aren't comedy fans. And I feel like tire is as much of a successful show as it is. It doesn't really, it's. It's. You know, when it comes to the very average, like, older family, they're not watching it, I don't think. But with a movie at that point, it's like, you know who this guy is.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Adam Thorne]

And if this movie blows up and is huge and then he starts getting asked to do other roles and then it gets to the point where, oh, I'm seeing it because Shane's in it. And I saw this movie with Shane and he was hilarious. So anything with Shane I'm going to see.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Adam Thorne]

If that happens, who knows? I. I'm very excited for Shane's career. Who knows what's going to happen?

[Brandon]

Didn't they have Vince Vaughn in Tires in the last season? And they were both at the bar together. And I think that was. That was like a little window into what it could be, seeing Shane next to like a big actor. And it's like, does this fit? You know, it was like a little feeler. Like, imagine him up there with like one of the top guys. Does it look awkward? Does it fit? And it did. It worked. And it's like, yeah, you could. You could put him up there with anyone and it's. And it's gonna be smooth. It's just, how do they do it? What's. Where's he at? Right. What kind of movies does he go into? And I think he can pull it off if I don't think Ty is really tests his acting per se. You know, a lot of it seems very like the Office almost. Or like the almost like the British version of the Office kind of like. I don't know if you saw that one, but like the Ricky Gervais and. But, you know, more so like the Budweiser commercials are more on that end of better acting for him. And he's got the chops for it. I think it'd be interesting to see he does.

[Adam Thorne]

And I feel like with everything we're talking about where it's like, it just sounds like a guy that you're drinking at the bar with, that comes off in his acting too. He's just so likable. He's just some dude that you hang out with when you go to the dive bar, throw some beers back, watch some football with him. He's so likable. And he seems like everyone's friend and everyone wants that kind of friend.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

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[Adam Thorne]

Yeah, even in this podcast, even on his appearance, like, I just felt that, I really felt that. Like you're just hanging out with him.

[Brandon]

Sure.

[Adam Thorne]

Like just how he talks, it's just so casual. And he's just such a chill fucking dude.

[Brandon]

Yeah. Like you just show up and you're like, oh, Shane's here. Sweet. And that's.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah, we're gonna get hammered, but definitely.

[Brandon]

Drinking some Bud Light.

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[Brandon]

I mean, but that is, that is a lot of the way. I mean, especially when I watch Kill Tony, you know, it's a good show when he's on there. It's just like he brings a different level of quality to whatever the energy is gonna be for that performance. Like you, you don't always know with the panel. Like sometimes the panels are just duds and then you, you're sat there for however long. That show is like three hours and it's just dead air for panel wise, it just doesn't really happen with Shane.

[Adam Thorne]

He.

[Brandon]

He's always got something. You just gotta hang around for it. He brings the end.

[Adam Thorne]

Just how he talks, like how he interviews the guest is so funny. Some of the funniest, it's brilliant. Like some of my favorite interviews from Kill Tony. Like, oh my God, when he's Trump dude and he's like, remember the, the one where he's like interviewing this guy and this guy like, collects bugs or something and he's like, you're fucking the bug guy. Like, so funny. So funny.

[Brandon]

That one is. Is by far the funniest Kill Tony of all time. It's. It's ridiculous to watch. I mean, it's too funny indeed. Like, I can't even. I probably watched that one like four or five times, and it still just cracks me up every time. I can't believe they pulled that one off so hard like that. And even Adam Ray really shows up. What's cool. Do you know they barely knew each other too, before that?

[Adam Thorne]

No.

[Brandon]

Which is really awesome. So, like, just the way that they work together through that whole thing, just knowing that and going back and watching it and being like, how well they were riffing off each other. I mean, just brilliant.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah. Him just being like, I just shit my pants so good. Like, some of the lines and the chemistry, it.

[Brandon]

Clever stuff. I mean, it's. That was just some brilliant comedy all the way. Yeah. I mean, he's. He's on fire. It's undeniable. And yeah, he brings it. He brings it to Rogan for sure. Yeah. Let's jump into some. Some of the elements of. Of the podcast. I mean, look, the big standout for me is something that's been kind of ignored and we might as well get into it. It's something that I think people have been skirting around on the Rogan show for a long time. But Nick Fuentes came up and he really hasn't. I mean, he has a little bit, but I mean, it was directly called out between the two of them. And what was brought up was the Piers Morgan interview and specifically just kind of how Nick wipe the floor with him in terms of just overall appearance of debate. Now, I'm not saying one person was right over another. Obviously Nick is very controversial and said quite outrageous things. But in terms of how, like, perception and. And like kind of aggressive interview style, psych really did come off looking pretty ridiculous after that interview. I think Pierce was the wrong guy to make Nick look bad. I think that a better interviewer had all the ammunition they would need to highlight some ridiculous points that Nick was making. And Pierce was completely outgunned and Rogan and Shane highlighted all of them.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah, a lot of people underestimate Nick for sure, and he's just very confident and funny, undeniably. And even they talk about that on the podcast. But Piers Morgan, I. I think he just had his guard down, you know, and I have opinions about him as a person, for sure, but he's adult. I think he underrated Nick and I think like, he, he got blown away.

[Brandon]

Blown away, dude?

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah. I don't know, you know, it was.

[Brandon]

Like somebody that plays chess playing against somebody playing checkers. That's what it seemed like. It was just a slaughtering. And I mean, when Shane said. And what you forget is Nick is hilarious. Now remember, this is hilarious. Shane Gillis probably the most popular standup in the world right now and one of the funniest people alive. Saying this about a person who is not a stand up comedian. He doesn't say that lightly. Like he thinks that dude is funny.

[Adam Thorne]

I mean, that alone is a hell of a compliment to have just on the Internet to have in like the Ethereum.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Adam Thorne]

Of all this, of Shane Gillis saying he's funny as fuck is crazy.

[Brandon]

So you add now to his ability to debate and the rest of it, I mean that, you know that as a tool going into these sorts of debates just means that at any moment, if he doesn't like the way things are going, he can just completely collapse your side of the argument with a riff that just is a mic drop. And he can do that over and over and over again with a massive closer. It just makes it impossible. This is probably why people will not debate him at all. Like, they want to say it's because they completely disagree with everything he says, which I'm sure they do and they should for a lot of reasons. However, I think then it makes a lot of sense to go debate him and, and make it very clear why he's wrong. That should be easy then.

[Adam Thorne]

Well, Nick Fuentes did say that on his show. He said that. He does. He's like, I don't get this. Why are people afraid to talk to me? It's like if I'm crazy, if I'm this lunatic, if I'm so wrong, how about you talk to me and, you know, make me look like the idiot I apparently am or the crazy person I apparently am? So I, I get that point of view. But back to my point of. It's just Nick is so confident and funny. Where I've seen him debate people, political figures, where I and commentators and podcasters were all agree with the other point of view and not Nick's, but Nick's comebacks and, and he just adds so such like, humor to it. And it's like that actually is like hilarious. And he does kind of have a point. But it's. I don't. It's a mess. It really is a mess. And I think having Nick on Joe Rogan is such a shitstorm. I don't think Joe wants to do. I don't think it's gonna happen. You know, I really don't. I do not. I. I don't think Joe wants that to happen. I think he. He wants to talk to Nick, but he also doesn't want the shitstorm that's gonna follow it.

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[Adam Thorne]

Nick Fuentes has shat on J.D. vance so hard. Like, very, like, calling his wife things, calling him things. He hates the administration. He said some insane things. Jordan Peterson also, like, is terrified of Nick Fuentes.

[Brandon]

Jordan on him, Jordan Rogan to, it seems like, specifically make it clear to Rogan not to have Nick on without.

[Adam Thorne]

He said groiper.

[Brandon]

Yeah. Without necessarily saying Nick's name, but like, kind of trying to describe him in a psychological way, and it seems pretty clear that's what he was doing. I think, though, that since that's now pretty clear and plenty of people have made videos about it, and if anything, that might be an encouraging factor for Joe to have him on, because I don't think Joe likes the idea of people telling him who not to have on his podcast. It's one thing for pe for Joe to feel pressured who to have on, but if there's one thing for sure, he does not like the idea of being told who not to have on. If he chooses not to have someone on. Like, if he takes a break from Alex Jones, that's up to him. If he takes a break from Sam Harris because he's like, you know what? I'm not feeling Sam at the moment, that's up to him. But if he's curious to talk to somebody and people are telling him not to or he feels that pressure, I don't think that that's the Joe Rogan that you and I know, and I don't think that's the Joe Rogan that became popular and that we have grown to kind of like, the audience and the fan base have grown to, like, you know, And I know it's a headache for him. I know it can be a headache. But. But he is also Joe Rogan. He's the guy that kind of sets the standard for, like, surviving those waves. Like, he's not out there purposely picking these battles. He didn't want the COVID battle. You know, he didn't want to, like, necessarily fight this.

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[Brandon]

You know, the Ivermectin thing and all this political stuff. He's not looking to do it. He just is that much of a voice to where these news agencies and media come for him. But at the same point, he's curious. He wants these conversations. He doesn't like this whole idea that people get platformed or deplatformed or don't have a voice or whatever. And he wants these conversations. I mean, he's able to kind of get the information out of people in a way that almost no one else is. And I know he gets criticism for. Oh, he doesn't push back. And he should. And this is bullshit. Or that that is, you know, the wrong way to do it. It's like, hold on. Why are people telling Rogan how he should interview? How about you just become more popular than Rogan and you do the interview the way you want? I don't think that's unreasonable. You do. You let him do him. It's like, he's not criticizing you. He doesn't complain about the way Sam Harris does interviews, but Sam has a whole lot to say about the way Rogan does it. And it's like, sorry, dude, you're just not as popular. And maybe you're not as popular because you're just not as interesting. I hate to say it, I know you're a smarty pants and an academic, but maybe most people don't really care about that. Maybe that's a bit boring. Maybe you're a nerd. It's. Sorry, like, what do you Want fucking nerd.

[Adam Thorne]

Well, I think it's definitely a fork in the road here. And if Joe does have Nick Fuentes on, it really changes a lot of topics and a lot of hot debates because a lot of people are calling Peter Thiel Joe's handler. I've seen that going around a lot. And Nick Fuentes very openly hates Peter Thiel and is criticized his sexuality, who he is. The Israel ties hates Peter Thiel. Now, if Joe has Nick Fuentes on, what does that say? Because to me, that says that Peter Thiel doesn't have Joe Rogan under his thumb as much as people say he does.

[Brandon]

But do you really believe. Like, how do you think that that works? Like, for one, is, like, is Peter Thiel paying Joe Rogan directly some money? Like, how. How does that power dynamic work? Where is the. The. Like, how is the power transfer working, do you think?

[Adam Thorne]

If you had to speculate, That's a great question.

[Brandon]

Where's the influence?

[Adam Thorne]

And that's a question I want to know, because it's just very suspicious that it's like, for a while, not really anymore, but for a while, it's like, every other guest would have that quote, my good friend Peter Thiel. And it was a lot of people, like Brett Weinstein, for example. There were so many people featured on the podcast who were just, like, associates of Peter Thiel.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Adam Thorne]

And it's like, what's going on? Is Joe just super into Palantir and super into Peter Thiel, or does Peter Thiel have a little bit of an influence here?

[Brandon]

Right.

[Adam Thorne]

Because when we go back to the Theo Vaughn thing, remember when Theo starts criticizing Palantir and Jamie shuts up and even Joe stops talking, and Theo goes, I'll move on. Like, something's going on. Something is going on. I don't know what it is, though. I don't know.

[Brandon]

I know you've been on this one for a while, and I think there probably is something there. No, I'm. I'm feeling it, too. I think there is something there. But also, it's like, he's already really good friends with Elon. How many fucking billionaires do you need to be best friends with? It's like. And what happens, you know, is it like, oh, you can't text Peter anymore if you have Nick on. It's like, I think. I think Peter wants, like, okay, so billions of dollars are very powerful, for sure. But in the world of media and voice and kind of getting your message out there, in a sense, you could look at Rogan as being he's like a billionaire of media voice. No one's bigger than him. So wouldn't they equally want to kind of kiss his ass a little bit? Because when they have a message, they, with all their billions of dollars, they can't buy an audience bigger than just showing up on his show. And in order to do that, they got to be cool with him.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah. Well, that's why. I see why Peter Thiel would want to have an influence with him because to kind of like get in ahead of his audience.

[Brandon]

Oh. And I get why he would want it.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah.

[Brandon]

I just don't know how he necessarily can get it. That's my question.

[Adam Thorne]

It doesn't seem like a lot of people are taking the bait, you know, like, even with Zuck, I think that's the best example of like, he go hunting, bro.

[Brandon]

Yeah, he. I think, I think Rogan and him are cool enough. I think they can text, but yeah, he's not. He's not kissing Zuck's ass anytime soon.

[Adam Thorne]

No, no, he's not.

[Brandon]

He's not taking him hunting.

[Adam Thorne]

Not at all. Not at all.

[Brandon]

No.

[Adam Thorne]

But. But I think the whole point is to kind of like what I see a lot of these tech people going on. Rogan, the whole idea is to kind of just. They want to be humanized to the general public. They wanna, they want that element of, I'm not a. I'm not a robot. I'm not this big evil guy. I'm just a cool dude. And hey, maybe Palantir is something you might want to invest in and support because look at me, I'm talking about my day to day life. I'm talking about my diet. I mean, me and Joe Rogan, we're getting off here, we're having a great time. I'm just a normal dude like you. And I think this is what a lot of people want to do. They want to like. It's what Duncan Trussell tried to warn Rogan about way back.

[Brandon]

Sure.

[Adam Thorne]

Where it's like, don't you fear that some of these big people, some of these maybe evil people are going to take advantage of this platform? And Joe's like, I just want to hug them and do acid or whatever he said. But I don't know, it's. I think time will tell when it comes to a lot of this stuff. Because if Fuentes does come on, who knows? Because that tells me a lot. That really tells me a lot with what's going on. And I think as of lately, especially with Tim Dillon coming on and kind of like, talking to Rogan, don't you not want to shake hands with these people so you can openly criticize them because you're a comic? He's like, you kind of do have a point. And then Theo comes on and is like, you know, Palantir is like, super evil. Right. And all the they're doing. And Joe's like, huh, I guess I didn't know that. Or. It's kind of hard to believe, but I. I see some gears turning. I do. And I think we're entering new territory, and I feel like the last, like, few episodes, we've kind of talked about that, of we're leaving a certain era of this podcast and entering a new one.

[Brandon]

Yeah, yeah. No, that's how I feel.

[Adam Thorne]

I'm not sure if you. You agree.

[Brandon]

Yeah, no, I do. I do. I think something is shifting, and. And I. And I think that a part of it. Look, I'll say this for sure. If Nick comes on, then that is an exclamation point on. No one owns Rogan because nobody that could wants him on. And even a part of Rogan doesn't. And if he gets him on, that's the old Rogan just being like, I'm all about just having a conversation. He knows that a hell of a lot of his fans would be curious to hear that conversation. A lot of people would be curious to hear it.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah. Now, it's interesting because I thought, looking at Joe Rogan and Charlie Kirk, that the reason Joe Rogan didn't have Kirk on the show is because of political differences. Because literally, after his death, he came out and was like, hey, like, it sucks he died. It shouldn't have happened. I disagree with some of his politics. Now. Fuentes is a little more controversial.

[Brandon]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Thorne]

Maybe a lot more controversial. And Joe already said a thing that he doesn't agree with. Do you think if Fuentes does come on that he will push back? And at what level do you think he would?

[Brandon]

I think Rogan will. I think Rogan will try to dissect some of his more controversial points. For sure. Yeah. He'd be like. For sure. He'd be like, why do you say that about women? I have three daughters. Are you gonna say that about that with my daughters? And Nick's gonna have to explain himself. Rogan's a tough dude, and Nick's a smart guy. And I think that they're gonna have a real interesting conversation.

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See terms and I don't know, I think it would be good, man. You know these.

[Adam Thorne]

I think it would.

[Brandon]

Two excellent speakers. I mean, look, you don't have to agree with either of what they say. You don't have to think that either of them are either intelligent or whatever. I know a lot of people have. A lot of people think Rogan is a dumb person. Right. I hear this often from people that are not fans of Rogan. I do not believe that to be true. Right. Rogan is clearly not a dumb person at all. Right. He is a very good speaker, commentator, and definitely podcaster. Now, Nick has massively controversial ideas, of course, but he is brilliant at debates. Like, you can separate those things. And it's not like a compliment to say all of him is good. No, there's things that he's doing that are wild and way out there. But he also, there's a reason he's popular. And then you get them both together to hash out their ideas and to figure out where they're coming from and what it all means. And that, I think, is what some people like Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson and a lot of people that don't like Nick Fuentes are very worried about because, I mean, going on Rogan and humanizing yourself and coming off looking good like Trump did. I mean, it got him basically elected. Plenty of people have given a huge amount of credit to that. I mean, that is massive. That's massive power. And a lot of people are worried that that would do that for Nick, not make him the president, but make him far more popular than he already is, because there's a good chance he could come on, do very well in that conversation, you know, navigate these ideas and even the pushbacks very smoothly. Have some mic drops where he just pulls off some great things. I mean, it will be potentially a lot more work than Pierce Morgan, for sure. But, you know, Joe's also more fair in a lot of ways, and it give him more of. More of a chance. He's not going to sit there the whole time like, gotcha gotcha moments. He's not going to be playing clip after clip trying to catch him out. I mean, he's going to give him way more space. And if he leaves it sounding very reasonable in some areas, I mean, a lot of people are going to be sweating for sure.

[Adam Thorne]

Definitely. Definitely. He's going to have to, like, keep a mental note of, okay, who fucking hates me now? Who I've had on the podcast. Because a lot of people really hate Nick Fuentes. Anyone on the left hates. Hates that guy.

[Brandon]

Yeah. So probably half of the right.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. The entire right.

[Brandon]

I'm surprised that anyone is liking him, honestly. He's. He's good at upsetting almost everybody.

[Adam Thorne]

He is. He is. But that's kind of the appeal, though.

[Brandon]

Yeah, kind of.

[Adam Thorne]

Where it's like, this guy, he doesn't get any shit from anybody. He does his own thing, and that's why I like him.

[Brandon]

I think literally the only person he hasn't insulted is Joe Rogan. It's like the. Literally guy left.

[Adam Thorne]

Literally. Yeah, literally the only guy left. And I think, because he kind of wants that exposure. And Joe has said things that I know Fuentes would disagree with for sure. Especially with the episodes we've seen. There's so many things Joe has spoken about, and I think Fuentes isn't even going to react to Joe talking about it, because he doesn't even want to touch that. He wants to just sit there and say, and just think, if you want to have me on, I'm just going to sit right here and do my thing. Because he doesn't want to blow his chance. That's what I think. Because this would be such a massive moment for him, and I think this would make him, like, very, like, very. Not, maybe not mainstream. And he kind of already is nearing or arguably mainstream with how popular he is, but it would launch him into a totally different stratosphere. And I'm not sure how I feel about that. But I will say this, that will be One of the most entertaining fucking podcasts I will ever listen to. The two of them talk.

[Brandon]

There's a reason we just spent almost 15 minutes talking about a clip that lasted three minutes on the podcast of three hours. And it is because it was important. They probably discussed it before the podcast because it is one of those hot topic things that, you know, Shane's smart enough. He knows how podcasts work. He knows Rogan. He knows the breadth of this show and how big Rogan show is. And he was like, hey, can I bring up the Piers Morgan interview with Nick? And Rogan's like, yeah, bring it up. Cool. You know, we won't stay on it for long, but bring it up. Also, Rogan's like, let's test the water a bit. And from that little clip, I've probably seen at least five videos that have been made online reflecting on that clip, breaking down all different angles of this and what it means and whether Joe have him on and what. What that could mean and what the backlash might look like. And I mean, you know, Joe can create his own analysis just with those little clips, and he knows it. Joe's fully aware of that. He doesn't even need to do his own market research. He's that popular that he just can say, like one or two lines and sit back and just let the Internet take care of the rest for him.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah. Also, the whole idea of Joe being like, he could be the president one day is like any kind of clip farmer is like, that's. There it is.

[Brandon]

Yeah, that's.

[Adam Thorne]

That's the clip of the episode. And I don't know what that says for me, because you would kind of think you would want to be walking. Like, you would think he would maybe have the mindset of, I'm gonna walk on eggshells around this topic saying that he could be the president. Like, who knows? Who knows what's gonna happen?

[Brandon]

You know, I think. I think what he was saying with that clip is like, who knows what the world looks like in 20 years, right? Who knows what people are thinking, what the ideas are, how things shift. He's already talking about how these younger generation that are, like, picking up steam behind Fuentes are not paying attention to. To the Tuckers and the Piers Morgans. And that's becoming pretty clear that that's kind of like the old garb. They're the boomers and they're fading out. There's this new group coming in. Not saying that they all are listening to Nick's kind of ideology, but he is definitely Rounding up a big chunk of them. And there aren't many people around Nick's age that are also garnering their own massive following. So that's an example of it. And it's like, hey, who knows what that looks like in 20 years, right? Maybe this is a warning. Maybe this is just whatever it is, it's like stand by.

[Adam Thorne]

That is true. You can kind of interpret it anyway. There's many interpretations. I think you're right, though, that that would make a lot of sense. And hey, speaking of the president or a president, should we jump into, let's go. Some of the, the Trump talk on this episode because the, the plaques, the Rob Reiner tweet. Just a lot of good Trump talk, especially when Shane's on the pod.

[Brandon]

Yeah. Well, let's first off, let's start with, you know, these two guys clearly were pro Trump before the election. Rogan played a big part, really, in getting Trump elected. And we know he was back and forth on whether he should have Trump on. He might be questioning that now. I don't know, but maybe not also. And we know that Shane probably was leaning that direction for sure. And now I think they both sound pretty fed up with him. You know, they sound quite frustrated, like many people that had backed Trump and you know, they're saying he's doing some crazy stuff and they were quite open about the criticism.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah. Yep. I, I really like the Trump talk here and I see the political shift for sure, especially in how Shane's talking about him. And Rogan is a little slower on it because obviously he has ties to Trump. Still with Trump calling him, I feel like he maybe had a whole hand in the weed, the whole weed legalization movement going on right now because it's something he's talked about in the past.

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[Adam Thorne]

Interesting to hear them start to, like, really go after Trump. Like, the Rob Reiner thing, I think was like a really good example of that. Of being like, yeah, that's like, just fucking not cool.

[Brandon]

It's not cool, dude. It's not cool at all. Like, there's just no excuse for it, man. He was not controversial at all anyway. It's not like he was in jail for sex crimes and happened to have done some good movies in the past and then dies. Like, maybe there's an argument to be like, yeah, but he sucked. It's like, what did he do? He lightly criticized you and then was killed by his kid. Like, it's just, it's that. It's inexcusable, man.

[Adam Thorne]

It's so brutal. It's so brutal. Just say nothing. Like, like, where's your humanity? Crazy? Because, like, as the president, you're kind of supposed to show an example of, hey, even though we disagreed on a lot of things, like made some great movies, he made some great movies, and.

[Brandon]

No one should be killed by your kid.

[Adam Thorne]

Exactly. Wow. Maybe you should be president.

[Brandon]

I'm running.

[Adam Thorne]

But. But it's just so, like, distasteful. It's so disgusting.

[Brandon]

I mean, do you think there is literally even massive Trump fans that still, Even after all the Epstein bullshit and not releasing this and that and all the rest of it, all the other promises that he didn't come out with and the embezzling that's clearly going on and all the shady, you know, money that he's making just left and right for his whole family. And I mean, do you think that anyone that's holding on and still just worshiping the ground that he works on in the Trump walks on in the Trump world was like, no, that's a good tweet. Like, still was like, there.

[Adam Thorne]

I've seen it. Yeah, I've seen it.

[Brandon]

They're like, that's cool. That made sense.

[Adam Thorne]

They're like, oh, it was a. He was an asshole. You know, he had it coming to him. Like, I've seen that. I've read that online. I've heard people literally verbally say it because at this point, if you're in, you're in.

[Brandon]

Yeah. I guess if you're left, you're like the. Like, you don't even have to think at that point. You just pick someone to be your king, and you're like, whatever they say is, I bow to the king.

[Adam Thorne]

The Trump train, the Trump cult, you know, whatever you want to call it. There's people who just. There's nothing he could do. Where it's bad or you're upset with it. There's nothing. And it's crazy to me that. Especially with the plaques where it's like, what are we doing? Even Shane Gillis compared it to, like, a. An African dictator. It's like, what the fuck is going on?

[Brandon]

Yeah, the plaques are wild, dude. Yeah, I mean, that's. That's. It really is like an episode of the Simpsons, like in the old ones, you know, that were, like, clunky and kind of funny, but mostly goofy.

[Adam Thorne]

Season four to eight.

[Brandon]

Exactly. Yeah. Where the plaque exists in. In, like, Mr. Burns office, and they've changed the picture to the auto pen, and it's like, yeah, that's kind of a joke, but it's so ridiculous. Like, that wouldn't even ever happen. No, it has happened. It's called the end of 2025, and this is real life in the most prosperous country that ever existed.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah. And he's like. He's also starting to, like, rename things in Washington. It's just. It's. I can't believe it. I really can't. Because there's a element of it where it's like. It's historical, you know, and whatever kind of memes you like, however you like to fuck around, you have to at least be like, all right, this is history, and I shouldn't fuck with that.

[Brandon]

But, dude, the plaque literally says the worst president in history under the Joe Biden thing and that he stole the election as like, this is history. This is a historical record.

[Adam Thorne]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Brandon]

It's. Yeah. How could. How are we supposed to take anything serious? These are the people that make us pay taxes. And they're like, you need to follow laws. And then they do that. It's like, hold on. So we have to be serious. And then you do this. Like, this is bonkers. You guys are. This is like a clown show. Yeah.

[Adam Thorne]

And I agree with.

[Brandon]

It is arguably funny.

[Adam Thorne]

I would say that it is arguably funny, but I agree with Shane where it's like, who else would do this? Like, even on the left, like, what is the counterpart here? Because I, I don't see it a counterpart. I don't, I don't see someone in the left or even right now on the right going to this extreme and doing these kind of things.

[Brandon]

Do you remember one thing? Do you remember that mayor in Canada? I think he was a mayor that was, like, caught smoking crack. Remember this story was a while ago, so, yeah, it was, like, literally filmed. He would, like, film himself smoking crap actively. The man, like, this guy was smoking crack and was the mayor. I don't think he did stuff like this.

[Adam Thorne]

No.

[Brandon]

And he was.

[Adam Thorne]

This is, like, insane. This is like, not to say it's, it's very dictator, like, but it's very dictator, like, dude, like, to kind of determine what world history, like, what the history of the country is. I very much disagree with Joe Biden. He did a lot of bad, in my opinion, but, yeah, he was pretty. For that to be his official plaque, it's like, this is crazy. Are we, like, only a year into this term?

[Brandon]

Oh, dude, yeah. One year. It feels like 15 years.

[Adam Thorne]

I don't know.

[Brandon]

We got three more years of this.

[Adam Thorne]

What's going to happen?

[Brandon]

We got three more years of this.

[Adam Thorne]

We're going to get official Trump history books. It's going to be crazy.

[Brandon]

Do you know, do you know that this summer, and they talk about it, this summer they're going to have a UFC event, the biggest one ever on the lawn of the White House. You know this, right? Conor McGregor is probably going to fight, and so is Jon Jones, who is the greatest goat fighter of all time, and it's probably going to be his last fight. I mean, this is bananas. Just think about what that means.

[Adam Thorne]

I remember someone told me for the first time, and I was like, yeah, dude, I've seen Idiocracy, too, you know. You don't have to bullshit me.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Adam Thorne]

And then I'm like, oh, fuck. What?

[Brandon]

This literally, you're is Idiocracy, too. If they made a sequel, this would be it. You don't need a script happening right now.

[Adam Thorne]

Turn the cameras on. I, I, I'll be honest, though. A UFC event at the White House is the most, like, American ever. Like, it's going to be was. It was in, like, fist fights with professional fighters in the White House. You know, it. It's so American. It's just such an American thing. But it's, it's also, like, fucking batshit.

[Brandon]

It's nuts, dude. I don't, I don't even know what to think.

[Adam Thorne]

It was, I don't know it.

[Brandon]

Yeah, an incredible way to end the year. I mean, we're moving into 2026 now. I think having Shane and Joe just kind of like take us out and send us into, into 2026 and just be like, okay, what do we got? Where are we going with this? What's next? What are we friends think about? Yeah, hold on tight because things are getting weird.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah.

[Brandon]

Yeah. Let's end it with a little bit of online fan reaction. We looked at Reddit, X, others kind of YouTube comments, the rest of it just a big mix of it all. Some call the episode classic old school Rogan mix storytelling. People liked it, you know, historical sports, politics, discussions, that sort of thing. Humorous and some said kind of unfunny. Which, you know, I think because Shane's on there that you kind of expect more in the way of comedy. You know, like it'd just be a comedy roast hour. But that's not really what Rogan Rogan show is. You know, it's like I, I think you get that when it's protect our Parks, you can expect it to be funnier and sillier, but when it's just Shane and Rogan, I think you have to just understand it's going to be more of a conversation.

[Adam Thorne]

Can I read the top comment on YouTube for this episode? This makes up for having Tom Segura on the other day. 18,000 likes.

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[Brandon]

I love it.

[Adam Thorne]

Top comment. But I. I enjoyed it. I thought it was a good episode. Should we get into the ranking?

[Brandon]

Let's do it.

[Adam Thorne]

Yeah. So I'm gonna have to give this a 6 out of 10. For me, like, there was some good moments, but I feel like there was a reason why we talked about, like, three subjects on this whole podcast for the whole time. Like, they talked about dolphins and other things that were interesting, but I feel like there were some, like, slower moments. And it just seemed like the classic Joe Rogan going over some of his political topics, just with some Shane commentary in there where Shane didn't really get to riff all that much because Joe was really controlling with the direction of the conversation. But I enjoyed it. I thought it was a good episode. And there are some fun topics on here. And there were, like, some good laughs, I thought, too. But, yeah, just pretty solid. Above average. Yeah, I'd say a 6 out of 10.

[Brandon]

Yeah, I'm with you. I gave it a 6. 5. 6.5. Same kind of thing. You know, maybe it got a little extra boost because it was Shane and they brought up a few points that I was really curious that they would get into. So, you know, that. That caught my attention and there were a couple of clips that I really liked. Ran it through the algorithm, and Overall, Reddit rating 7.5 out of 10. Mixed, but generally positive. A little higher than I expected, actually. But overall, solid engagement, even on X. And, yeah, generally high. So people liked it. You know, it was a solid episode. Quick update. I know over the New Year's, there were a lot of. Especially on Spotify, there were a lot of comments about where's the Boneyard? One, because he usually finishes the year, he usually brings in the year, the boneyard. I actually messaged him on Instagram, his name is John. Just to see where he was and how things are going. Is saying that we missed him on Rogan. He usually kind of ends out the year and wanted to check in on his health, see how he was doing. I know Lashi had pneumonia and had to skip for a few months on Rogan, but he said he's doing fine and he's healthy and some things came up and he's just waiting to reschedule with Rogan, so he'll be back on shortly for those out there wondering where he was at, but that's what's happened. Shout out to John. Good man.

[Adam Thorne]

Shout out, John.

[Brandon]

But that's it for us for this time, and thank you all so much. We appreciate it. And we will talk to you shortly. See ya.

[Adam Thorne]

See ya.

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