518 JRE Review of Pierre Poilievre

Summary

Joe Rogan Experience Review Podcast

Episode: 518 – JRE Review of Pierre Poilievre
Host: Adam Thorne & Co-host
Date: March 31, 2026

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Overview

This episode reviews Joe Rogan’s interview with Pierre Poilievre, the leader of Canada’s Conservative Party and a prominent figure in Canadian politics. The hosts unpack Poilievre’s perspectives on economic policy, government overreach, the cost-of-living crisis, personal freedom, and Canadian-American relations. The conversation includes banter about Canadian culture, the recent impacts of COVID, conspiracy theories, and comparisons to American policies. Throughout, the hosts debate Poilievre’s authenticity, Rogan’s impressions, and the broader issues at play in Canada and beyond.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Pierre Poilievre: Who is He?

• Introduction & Context:
  • Poilievre is introduced as “the French Canadian politician and leader of the Conservative Party in Canada,” known for his “sharp rhetoric, focus on economic issues, and criticism of government overreach.” (01:07)
  • Hosts highlight his advocacy for personal freedom, particularly during COVID and the trucker convoy protests.
    • “There was some squirrely things going on during COVID. We heard about that. And then the trucker stuff.” (01:28)

2. The Truckers, Government Overreach & Frozen Bank Accounts

• Detailed discussion of the Canadian government freezing protestors’ bank accounts:
  • “Freezing bank accounts and stuff. My gosh, that stuff was wild.” (01:48)
  • “People were supporting their cause to protest...and then the government was, like, freezing those assets.” (01:58)
  • Hosts call such moves “draconian” (02:13), expressing concern about government power.

3. Trudeau, Conspiracies & Public Perception

• Banter and humor about Trudeau’s leadership, relationship rumors, and Internet conspiracies:
  • “Trudeau, obviously, now he’s not stepped down because he’s gotta focus on Katy Perry.” (02:18)
  • References to the “Castro’s granddaughter” rumor and sarcastic speculation about “the Antichrist.”
  • “Pierre doesn’t think so, but I think he is.” (02:43)

4. Poilievre’s Appeal and “Bro Down” with Rogan

• Poilievre’s “bro down” approach, earnestness, and attempts to relate to Rogan:
  • “He really did his research as well…He’s really trying to win favor with Joe and get him back to Canada. If he was like the Ministry of Tourism, I would say.” (03:00)
• Potential impact on Canadian voters:
  • “There are some potentially lazy voters up there…who might be like, you know what, I’ll do it for that.” (03:25)
  • Light teasing of Canadian stereotypes: “Get them off their plaid couches, get the maple straw out of their hands and turn off the hockey and go vote.” (03:37)

5. Why Didn’t Poilievre Win?

• Speculation on political establishment, “globalist” influences, and election manipulation:
  • “The guy who won, Kearney…is a globalist banker. And guess who’s friends with globalist bankers? Trump. So maybe he pulled the rug out from underneath Pierre…” (04:18)
  • Dismissal of the “51st state” joke (“Bit funny, but yeah. Not great move.” 04:59) and how it hurt his campaign.

6. Cost of Living, Inflation, & Economic Policy

• Deep dive into inflation, money printing, and the housing crisis in Canada (and its parallels in the US):
  • “The amount of money in the system is like, what is that? Like 15 times the amount of money or something now?” (05:50)
  • “When we print money…It just makes our money less valuable.” (06:15, 06:25)
  • Housing is now out of reach for average workers; compared to California's market, “There’s $2 million homes that only have two bedrooms.” (08:08)
  • “We’ve kind of seen the last generation of people owning homes, and it’s right now.” (07:15)
• Hosts are skeptical about politicians’ ability to reverse this trend:
  • “I think that’s just a political talking point. I don’t see any coming back from this.” (07:22)

7. Political Spending & Budget Efficiency

• The problem of easy political spending:
  • “The politicians, it’s not their money, so it’s easy to spend it.” (12:49)
  • Positive examples called out: “Clinton did it, he balanced the budget.” (13:28)
  • Worries about whether this is politically possible anymore.

8. Central Banks and Monetary Policy

• Criticisms of Canada’s central bank and concerns about excess money printing:
  • “He did have some strong criticisms of the central banks, especially the Bank of Canada… claims of excess, mainly about the currency and the excess money printing…” (14:24)
  • Relative size of Canada’s debt to its population (Canada’s population is “41 million,” comparable to California) and risks involved. (15:56)

9. COVID Overreach, Freedoms & Government Rollback

• Discussion about the COVID era and government restrictions:
  • “I don’t think any government gives back freedoms. Once they take something, they’ve got it and we can’t really get it back.” (17:18)
  • But some acknowledgment that “after COVID, they had to give freedoms back. You know, I mean, realistically. But just saying that we did have to go back to work…” (17:40)

10. Media Bias and Poilievre’s Apple Interview

• “Media bias” in Canadian coverage, especially of conservative politicians. Poilievre’s now-famous apple-eating interview:
  • “Remember, the guy was, like, mentioning people. Somebody has said some stuff about you, and he’s like, which people? Who said, what? What do they say? … Pierre, he had nothing, was just trying to get to the bottom of his question.” (20:58 – 21:20)
  • Rogan and the hosts saw Poilievre’s logic and composure as strengths.

11. Trudeau vs. Poilievre: Real vs. Performed Empathy

• Hosts contrast Poilievre’s “authentic national pride” and populism with Trudeau’s “surface-level compassion and performative politics.”
  • “I think he really believes in the country… he sounds like he has real national pride and cares about the progress of Canada and it doing well for… the real people. And it doesn’t seem like Trudeau ever did to me.” (23:57–24:20)
  • “Everything was just about compassion, correct pronouns. It was absurd and…the smokescreen. And we could see it.” (24:26)

12. Canadian Oil, Resource Development & Permitting

• In-depth discussion about oil sands, regulation, and economic opportunity:
  • “They have a ton of it, potentially.”
  • “Oil sand, which is easier and safer to get than the shale.” (25:14)
  • “He said faster permitting…He’s not too concerned about the environment. He said, we can figure that out much quicker than all the red tape…” (25:29)
  • Caution about environmental tradeoffs—“because it seems like it would be really bad for the environment overall.” (27:05)
  • Humor about the need for oil and friendly cross-border relations.

13. Immigration & Refugee Policy

• Poilievre’s approach to immigration, particularly fake student visas and refugees:
  • “He’s saying they need to be deported…In a humane way…But politely asked to leave.” (31:01–31:12)
  • “Do they have big immigration problems in Canada?…Yeah, they have huge numbers of Chinese immigrants, Indian Immigrants…last 20 years have been…pumping them in over there.” (31:22–31:37)

14. International Relations: US-Canada

• The importance of strong relations between the US and Canada:
  • “He made a big point about they got to get rid of the tariffs…We need their aluminum. We need a bunch of stuff…We need to buy that stuff. We need good deals.” (34:04)
  • “It seems to make sense that we should have good relationships with the closest neighbors.” (34:25)
  • Highlighted how tariffs can drive up housing/materials costs on both sides of the border.

15. Joe Rogan’s Impression of Poilievre

• Rogan “was impressed by him…had a real, like, handshake, like, gentlemen meeting at, like, a respectful level.” (32:47)
  • “Joe really respected him as a leader and just as a person.” (32:48)
  • Regret that Poilievre didn’t appear on Rogan before the election—“What a missed opportunity on Pierre’s part.” (33:09)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On government overreach:

  • “Freezing bank accounts and stuff. My gosh, that stuff was wild.” (01:48)

• On election conspiracies:

  • “The guy who won, Kearney…is a globalist banker…Trump. So maybe he pulled the rug out from underneath Pierre…” (04:18)

• On inflation and money printing:

  • “When we print money…It just makes our money less valuable.” (06:15)

• On the housing affordability crisis:

  • “We’ve kind of seen the last generation of people owning homes, and it’s right now.” (07:15)

• On political spending:

  • “The politicians, it’s not their money, so it’s easy to spend it.” (12:49)

• On performative compassion:

  • “Everything was just about compassion, correct pronouns. It was absurd and…the smokescreen. And we could see it.” (24:26)

• On oil and permitting:

  • “He said faster permitting processes…we can also deal with environmental issues in real time and…not just be bogged down [by] all this permitting back and forth…” (25:29)

• On the Rogan-Poilievre rapport:

  • “Joe was impressed by [Poilievre]. And I think he came on and really handled himself well. I think Joe really respected him as a leader and just as a person.” (32:48)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [01:07] – Introduction to Pierre Poilievre, his political style and focus
• [01:41] – Canadian trucker protests, freezing of bank accounts
• [03:00] – Poilievre’s efforts to win Rogan over; impact on Canadian voters
• [04:18] – Conspiracies about election interference and “globalists”
• [05:50] – Discussion about cost of living, money printing, and housing prices
• [07:15] – “The last generation of people owning homes is right now”
• [12:49] – On politicians’ easy spending and lack of budget discipline
• [14:24] – Criticisms of central banks and money printing in Canada
• [17:18] – Debate about whether governments ever “give freedom back”
• [21:09] – Poilievre’s viral apple interview and media bias
• [24:20] – Pride and authenticity: Poilievre vs. Trudeau
• [25:29] – Extracting oil sands and environmental policy
• [31:01] – Immigration issues and Poilievre’s proposed deportation policy
• [34:04] – US-Canada trade and the importance of eliminating tariffs
• [32:47] – Rogan’s personal respect for Poilievre and their connection

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Summary & Final Take

• The hosts found Poilievre to be a “sensible,” “authentic,” and well-grounded leader, contrasting him favorably to Trudeau’s perceived performative politics.
• Core topics included the perils of government overreach, economic instability, the impact of globalist policies, the urgency of rethinking trade/immigration, and the need for pragmatic resource development.
• Rogan’s genuine respect for Poilievre was a highlight, with both the hosts and JRE listeners eager to see Poilievre’s future prospects.
• The episode closes with cautious optimism for Canada’s political future and the wish for closer US-Canada ties.

Host Ratings:

• “I give this episode a decent eight out of ten.” (35:22)
• “I agree.” (35:23)

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

You're listening to the Joe Rogan Experience Review. What a bizarre thing we've created now with your hosts and Adam Thorne. Might either be the worst podcast or the best one. One go. Enjoy the show. Hey, guys, and welcome to the Joe Rogan Experience Review. This is take two, because I had Pete on mute and we talked for, like five minutes. So we are back again.

[C]

That was some gold banter.

[B]

It's all gone now. We're gonna have to repeat.

[C]

We might just have to stick to the topic at hand.

[B]

Sadly, I forgot what we were talking about, so. But we are reviewing Pierre and I'm still going to get his name wrong the second time around. However you say his last name, say it.

[C]

Polievre.

[B]

Polievre.

[C]

Polievre.

[B]

French Canadian politician and leader of the Conservative Party in Canada. He's really known for his sharp rhetoric, focus on economic issues, and criticism of government overreach. He has become one of the most prominent political figures in Canada, especially around topics like inflation, central banking, and personal freedom. He's big on personal freedom, which I think is important right now in Canada. Yeah, there was some squirrely things going on during COVID We heard about that. And then the trucker stuff.

[C]

Yeah. That really turned. That really opened my eyes to their plight over there of a state of unfreedom.

[B]

Freezing.

[C]

Freezing bank accounts and stuff. My gosh, that stuff was wild. Yeah.

[B]

And then what was it? People were like, donating Bitcoin and then they were just taking the money.

[C]

Is that they took their money?

[B]

Well, I think that people were supporting their cause to protest.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And obviously they weren't working, so they were like, giving the money to survive. And then the government was, like, freezing those assets. Credible, it seems. Seems like a lot.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. That's draconian.

[B]

Not the best. Yeah. So Trudeau, obviously, now he's not stepped down because he's gotta focus on Katy Perry.

[C]

Yeah. What they're making it. And she's pregnant, by the way, with the Antichrist. On what I've been reading online, it will be the Antichrist.

[B]

Castro's granddaughter.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

Allegedly.

[C]

Pierre doesn't think so, but I think he is.

[B]

That was polite of him, but funny of Joe.

[C]

It's a funny. It's My favorite conspiracies.

[B]

It was fun. It was fun. Well, look, Pierre came on strong, brought a lot of gifts.

[C]

It was basically one bro down.

[B]

He really did his research as well. He went all out. He's really trying to win favor with Joe and get him back to Canada. If he was like the Ministry of Tourism, I would say.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And Joe even said if he wins, he's coming back to Canada. So that, that's I think alone gonna win Pierre some votes.

[C]

Get him some votes.

[B]

Yeah. There are some potentially lazy voters up there in Canada that aren't quick to the polls for any other reason and might be like, you know what, I'll do it for that.

[C]

Get them off their plaid couches, get the maple straw out of their hands and turn off the hockey and go vote.

[B]

Get up there just for that next 420 show that Joe might go and do. But yeah, gets get some more sensible politicians up there.

[C]

I mean he seems so sensible too.

[B]

He really does.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's kind of surprising. Like that's what Joe was saying. Like, how did you not win? What you're saying is. Seems pretty reasonable. What did they not like about you?

[C]

I think that the. Well, I'm going to get into a little bit of my own conspiracy theory here.

[B]

Do it.

[C]

The guy who won, Kearney, Mark Kearney, something like that. Is a globalist.

[B]

Like a banker guy.

[C]

Yeah, he's a globalist banker. And guess who's friends with globalist bankers? Trump. So maybe he pulled the rug out from underneath Pierre so his buddy Carney could get in, thus creating a easier transition to a one world government controlled by the banks. I think he might have done it on purpose. On purpose? Yeah. Pull the rug out from my old Pierre. But that whole 51st state thing, that was not so popular. Funny, but not popular.

[B]

It was a bit funny, but yeah. Not great move.

[C]

I think it did hurt our boy up Pierre.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. That was a wild one. Yeah, it was a wild one.

[C]

It's this.

[B]

I think Trump just thought it was funny. He was like, some people think it's funny. I'm gonna keep saying it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

See what happens.

[C]

It's like either a mastermind genius on his for his own gain or daft little. Little stupid.

[B]

I think he's just seen what sticks. Throws a lot of stuff, sees what sticks. Some stuff. Does whatever goes viral. He's into it. It's the ratings. He's a ratings guy.

[C]

Ratings whore, you might say. Loved being popular.

[B]

He loves those ratings. But yeah, he starts out really. Cost of Living stuff threw out some numbers early on. Like, the amount of money in the system is like, what is that? Like 15 times the amount of money or something now? And there's, you know, so houses are just that much more expensive because there's so much more money. It's just worth that much less.

[C]

Right. When we print money, it doesn't make the goods more expensive and doesn't make the production more expensive. It just makes the amount of our money less valuable.

[B]

Right.

[C]

That's what's happening.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So there's a lot of houses on the market, but all the money we've been printing makes them. Makes them a lot more expensive.

[B]

Sure. And, you know, I don't know exactly what. I can't remember exactly what his example was, but it's like, you know, the plumber and the school teacher back in the day working full time could buy a house. And now it's like the lawyer and the doctor or whatever, struggling, can't buy a house. You know, they get a condo.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And you see it, you know, it's really getting to the point where it's like people are just renting apartments forever or they're just gonna be living with their parents. Like, we've kind of seen the last generation of people owning homes, and it's right now.

[C]

And Pierre hopes to change that up in Canada. He wants to make houses more affordable for the next. For the people our age and younger.

[B]

I think that's just a political talking point. I don't see any coming back from this.

[C]

Yeah, probably not.

[B]

You know, I think that you either figure out a way to make a ton more money than everyone else, and then you can just jump back on the housing ladder like people did in the past, and be the, you know, those outliers to manage it, you know, or you inherit something pretty special, or you just kind of accept the fact that you make do with a much smaller place that you're paying relatively large house prices for and you're getting a small apartment.

[C]

Yeah. This has been happening in California for, like, 20 years.

[B]

Sure.

[C]

There's $2 million homes that only have two bedrooms.

[B]

There was on the street that I lived on, on Raymond Avenue, we had rent control that had been frozen since, I think, like, sometime in the 90s, which was wild. And so it was low. And they could only raise it, like these tiny percentages. And it was something just to protect, you know, people working in, you know, kind of restaurants, regular jobs there. Cause otherwise everybody would be priced out like they had been in Malibu. Ye same street it was a private home that was, I think, just a three bedroom. It looked like a little cabin. And it was on sale for $10 million.

[C]

Holy crap.

[B]

And it was small. Like, it was small. It had like what would be the equivalent of like a small one car garage in the back that had been turned into like a really small little one bedroom apartment.

[C]

That's nuts.

[B]

And basically no parking, like a small driveway, tiny little lawn. And it's just on our same street where my apartment was. And I paid $1,000 a month. So it's like you're living on the same street, it's no different. And someone's gonna plunk 10 million down on that. I think it sold pretty quick too. People were looking at it like a lot. And it makes sense because you buy it and then it's still worth that.

[A]

Right.

[B]

It's an investment to whoever paid that amount for it.

[C]

Right. But then if you can't resell it for that, then it's a loss.

[B]

Right. But this was before COVID before an idea that, you know, housing prices were going to change or do anything weird. It's like assuming that they hold, then that's generally housing prices slowly creep up over time.

[C]

I'm sure that it will go back down to sometime affordable. Some, you know, some places in the United States it is affordable to live, like in Arkansas.

[B]

Sure.

[C]

But it is. There's certain bubbles around the United States. Here is one of them. And hopefully they do go back down. They potentially could, but they'd have to

[B]

go down a lot in some areas. Like, do you think that houses, like the medium house price here in BOZEMAN, it's like $850,000. What is it going to go down to? 600.

[C]

Right.

[B]

You know, where does it get to a number that's like reasonable for somebody just getting out of college to be able to buy a house? Like, let's say you just get out of college and you're doing well for yourself. Right. You land a job that. Okay, so now you're making 75 grand, maybe 80. Like you've done really well. You're out of college, you're making 80 grand. I don't know what kind of job you just landed, but that's pretty good if you're like 25.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

80 grand. Are you really getting a $600,000 mortgage? Unlikely.

[C]

80 grand is the new 40 grand.

[B]

Is it? Yeah, it sounds like it could be.

[C]

It's a teacher's wage.

[B]

Yeah. Which is sad to hear. I mean, it wasn't that long Ago, they always used to say it's like 70 grand. Anything over that, you know, if you've got a good budget, anything over that is just kind of bonus extra. Yeah, it's like won't make you that much happier jets now. I think that number is like, I don't know, maybe 120 most places.

[C]

That's incredible.

[B]

Yeah, that's kind of like a baseline. I mean, for it to jump 50 grand since probably Covid, it's like, it's not like anybody got that much better jobs now. AI is coming and making a lot of jobs somewhat obsolete. Look, I don't want to turn this into a doom and gloom, okay? I feel like I'm going down that rabbit hole. There's a lot to be hopeful for. But all I'm saying is when a politician comes on and he wants to run and win, and then he's saying, this is the problem we face, this cost of living issue. And what I want to do is X, Y and Z. And this will help, like create more industry or sell more oil. I don't see where the dots line up to where that goes back to, you know, the little guy. The little guy being able to buy a house.

[C]

Yeah. He outlined some stuff like eliminating. Eliminating budget items to get new ones, not just attacking on more line items. So kick one out to bring one in. That's one one way.

[B]

Sure.

[C]

But like you're saying if there's any ever any extra money laying around, it's going to the people at the top. It's not coming down this way.

[B]

Right. One thing he did say that I quite liked was, you know, the politicians, it's not their money, so it's easy to spend it.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

It's like, oh, I got a new program that's $100 million. Yeah, let's do it. But they don't have to find that money somewhere else. And if they had to do that, like, these programs would be far more efficient. Like, okay, well, you know, you've got just this kind of bucket of money now. Allocate it. You've been allocating it. Now you want this extra hundred million for something. You've got to pool some resources. Like, how are you gonna do it? Where's it coming from? We're not just giving you more.

[C]

They go on to say, Clinton did it, he balanced the budget. Well, you know, that's crazy. Our budget, he balanced it. We were not in debt when Clinton left office.

[B]

That is wild. Was it just that the 90s were just such a boom time? Was the Matrix right? That was the height of civilization. Yeah, the Matrix. Nailed it.

[C]

The Matrix always nails it.

[B]

God, that movie.

[C]

Him and Hunter S. Thompson, he also nailed it.

[B]

He nailed it.

[C]

Whatever we're talking about, he was there first in his mind.

[B]

Yeah. He figured it all out and was like, okay, this is weird. I'm gonna do so many drugs and then eventually shoot myself. Yeah, okay, don't figure it out then. Sounds depressing.

[C]

Oh, yeah. We just have to get through.

[B]

You don't want to look behind that curtain.

[C]

I guess we just have to get through it and hopefully we get reincarnated as like a butterfly.

[B]

He did have some strong criticisms of the central banks, especially the bank of Canada. What was his main complaint there?

[C]

I don't know about that one. I don't. Didn't quite pin that one down.

[B]

Well, it was kind of confusing. He was talking about claims of, like, excess, mainly about the currency and the excess money printing and then, you know, the advocates for tighter monetary policy and accountability and just overall, like that kind of global role that I guess. Because didn't they say that they had like a trillion dollars of debt? Which is way less in the U.S. but it goes further in Canada because in the U.S. our currency is the backbone of everybody's currency and Canada's is not.

[C]

I guess they have a lot less population too, so maybe that's part of it.

[B]

What is the population of Canada?

[C]

Good question. I'm going to guess Laplace 75 million.

[B]

So they really can't afford to be messing around printing too much money. It just seems to be like the plan of all the countries. Just keep printing print money until something explodes.

[C]

That was. That was Elizabeth Warren's economic plan.

[B]

Just print more.

[C]

Mm.

[B]

Well, I don't think she's the only one,

[C]

but. Oh, it's. It's 41 million. Oh, it's quite. It's not that many.

[B]

Was that like California?

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

My goodness. I bet California's GDP is probably bigger than all of Canada.

[C]

Oh, I think that California has the. What is the third, fourth largest economy in the world? Something like that. And even with that amount of cheddar, Gavin still messed it up.

[B]

Good job. Well, you know, we gotta complain about Gavin Newsom at least one time on any episode.

[C]

His hair is so good, though.

[B]

He's. It's how he gets by.

[C]

Yeah, it's gravelly voice.

[B]

It's how he gets by.

[C]

Greasy hairdo.

[B]

He just slides through. Of course. Yeah. And well, they. We talked about the COVID policies a little bit and the kind of the overreach with the truckers. But that was a big issue for him, obviously, him getting in. He's more of a smaller government guy and really wants to push it in that direction. I mean, when it comes to this, does that mean that he has to reverse a lot of the policies that have been put in place and is that harder to do in their sort of system?

[C]

He seemed like he had a pretty good entry strategy for it. He's. He seemed optimistic and there's got to be ways to do it. But I don't think any government gives back freedoms. Once they take something, they've got it and we can't really get it back. And that seems like what's going on in their place as well.

[B]

Yeah. Yes and no. I mean, to be fair, saying that. I mean, after Covid, they had to give freedoms back.

[C]

That's true.

[B]

You know, I mean, realistically. But just saying that we did have to go back to work and go outside and eventually get to do things. It's like we don't have screens up everywhere forever. And for a while it seemed like that might exist. I mean, you know, even at the checkouts of the grocery stores, there was just like that wall.

[C]

Plexiglass.

[B]

Plexiglass. For like a long time.

[C]

I don't even know where to sneeze anymore. Right on the plastic, not on the salads.

[B]

I wonder what the science there really was.

[C]

There was none.

[B]

How? I mean, I guess you're not taking a direct sneeze to the face. So, you know, you could have a lazy argument like, yeah, no one can sneeze directly in your face. But it's all getting everywhere. Stores full of people, People are breathing all over.

[C]

It wasn't science based, was it?

[B]

No, it was just. It was from big screen Fauci's plexiglass

[C]

Made a killing last few years.

[B]

Well, funny you say that early on. A friend of mine, his stepdad, for some reason had some connections where he had massive amount of those N95 masks. Like he had shipments of them. That was unrelated to Covid. He was just like partially a medical supplier and he was able to ramp the prices up massively. And he also had a bunch of that hand sanitizer stuff that he also could ramp the prices up. So in the same way as making the jokes about the plexiglass people making. He made tons of money selling this stuff for like 10x prices because there was. They just ran out of all this stuff everywhere.

[C]

I guess hospitals would buy them still.

[B]

Uh huh.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Hand Sanitizer.

[C]

I remember there's, like.

[B]

It was everywhere.

[C]

You remember all those hand sanitizers, like, emergency made by distilleries. So, like, there was, like, pony kegs of hand sanitizer at places you'd pump it, and it smelled like tequila. And you're like, well, that smells terrible.

[B]

Oh, is that right?

[C]

Oh.

[B]

Cause they were just brewing it however they could.

[C]

Brewing it in a back alley?

[B]

Hilarious. Gotta keep your hands clean. Whatever it takes.

[C]

What's wrong with wiping them on your jeans? That's what I do.

[B]

That's whatever it takes. They got into media bias a little bit and public perception of the media bias. I guess that's when his apple talking interview came up and, like, those dopey questions that the. That individual went over with him. But. And all that was just about, what was the apple interview exactly about?

[C]

Remember, the guy was, like, mentioning people. Somebody has said some stuff about you, and he's like, which people? Who said, what? What do they say?

[B]

Right.

[C]

What problems do they have with me? And the guy was waffling back and forth, and Pierre, he had nothing, was just trying to get to the bottom of his question.

[B]

And he's so nonchalant. Like, what, dude?

[C]

Jumping on an apple?

[B]

Where are you going with this? This is a good apple, by the way.

[C]

Yeah, he likes that place. What is it called? I forgot what it's called.

[B]

But, I mean, during that time, and it was all through that, it was just like having to, like, defend many of the things that Trudeau was standing up for, which was like, kind of like the pronoun discussion, the rights of people, that Covid stuff. And the divide was just somewhat absurd in the separation and how media was just jumping all over it. I mean, Pierre was obviously on the other side of that, and, you know, he took a pretty logical stance to it and was able to be brave enough to kind of put a, you know, draw a line in the sand and say, no, this is where I. This is where I stand with this. I don't agree. And we need to be logical about this moving forward. And if anything, it just kind of made Trudeau look like a buffoon.

[C]

Often he was a buffoon is a buffoon.

[B]

And he got worse, too. It's like he continued to just double down. I don't know. By the end of it, I don't know who he thought he was talking to or trying to win over.

[C]

I think it was all show for his ruling, whose rulers, because he. He. The politicians are not at the top of the pyramid. There's the billionaires that are on top of the pyramid, the banks they trump is their bitch. Mark Carney is their bitch. He's owned by China's interests, big banking. So that's probably who he's signaling to or just jumping on the. The woke train to keep votes.

[B]

Right? Yeah. And he was definitely like an establishment guy. Like, he was all about that. Like, he didn't seem to represent the people. Like he pretended to Trudeau. But I feel like this Pierre guy really does. Like, he really speaks for the people, or at least it sounds like it. When he talks about small government, I believe it. Like, obviously he's going to be infiltrated. Like anybody that gets to head of state position because it's just somewhat inevitable

[C]

the way it is.

[B]

Right. But I think he really believes in the country. Like, he sounds like he has real national pride and cares about the progress of Canada and it doing well for like the real people. And it doesn't seem like Trudeau ever did to me.

[C]

He was a fake in a fake way. He seemed like he did.

[B]

Right. I care about everyone.

[C]

Everything was just about compassion, correct pronouns. It was absurd and it was all. And just a smokescreen. And we could see it. Everybody can see it.

[B]

Sure. Yeah. I mean, you know, he. That Pierre really embraces like that populist tone and it's. He's like a regular person.

[C]

I thought he had a great. Seems like he has a good grasp on how to make the positive change if he. If he got elected for sure.

[B]

Now he talked a lot about what was it like, all the shale and getting the oil out up there. They have a ton of it, potentially.

[C]

Oil, sand.

[B]

Oil sand, right.

[C]

Which is easier and safer to get than the shale.

[B]

Oh, okay. Oil, sand. But it's hard to get the permits, he's saying.

[C]

Right, right.

[B]

So it's difficult that way. So we gotta take the permits out is what he's saying.

[C]

He said faster permitting processes.

[B]

Yeah, faster permitting. He's not too concerned about the environment. He said, we can figure that out much quicker than all the red tape in there.

[C]

Right. And the way they extract it, you don't even have to disturb the ground. And he's saying that.

[B]

Shake it up from underneath.

[C]

Yeah, we can. We can. As fast as we can issue these permits. We can also deal with environmental issues in real time and figure that out and make decisions about that and not just be bogged down. All this permitting back and forth like in California, to use a socialist example, again, they have so many regulatory boards and permitting issues that it doesn't help anybody do anything safer. It, it all gets into pocket of big of the, the big business and Karen Bass's pocket probably.

[B]

There we go. A lot of it. Now how, how is there so much oil in that stuff? It's just stuck in the sand.

[C]

He said bitumen. Bitumen I think it's called and it's oil sand. It's instead of shale that has oil in it. Like we have rocks with layers that are soaked with oil and instead of fracking, it's how we get that out of that. We have to force water and solvents down into the shale, agitate it and then pump out the liquid, separate the water. And it just seems a simpler process that what they have in Canada is a simpler method of getting it out. Because it's a simpler process. Yeah. It's not as hard as shale is.

[B]

Yeah. And with all that money at their disposal, potentially, I wonder why they just don't want to get a hold of it. I guess it's just because it seems like it would be really bad for the environment overall.

[C]

Who knows? Because we need oil. We need it and it turns out we don't care how it comes out of the ground as long as we get it. And we would rather it come from a foreign country where we can mess up their environment without a care in the world. Well, we're sitting on these huge oil reserves. They have one of the biggest in the world and we need our hands in that for sure. Let's get oily.

[B]

What about in Alaska? Do we have that same type of stuff up in Alaska?

[C]

I don't know about Alaska because it's

[B]

just on the side there.

[C]

I'm pretty sure we're drilling up there. Biden allowed that.

[B]

We go the pipeline.

[C]

We got the pipeline. Thank God for the pipeline.

[B]

We got to get that oil.

[C]

We need the oil.

[B]

Well, because otherwise we gotta buy it from someone else.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

So it's problematic.

[C]

I wish we could be friends with Canada again. Like when I was growing up. It was friendly.

[B]

We're all friends.

[C]

You could just walk across with a, with a, you know, your ID handshake nod. Uh huh.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Bit of a howdy and a hey, how are you? Give him a hockey puck and you're buying Olson's when you're 18.

[B]

I've not spent a lot of time up there. View.

[C]

No.

[B]

Have you gone up there at all?

[C]

I, I, I walked across the border above Glacier once. Oh.

[B]

I've landed in a couple of the airports a few times, which doesn't count. And then I went on the Canadian side of Niagara Falls.

[C]

How is that?

[B]

It was pretty cool. Big waterfall.

[C]

Not bad.

[B]

I mean, it's big.

[C]

Would you do it again?

[B]

No.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Too misty.

[B]

I don't know. Ruins big. I mean, maybe if my daughter wanted to go see it just so it's like a cool thing to go see,

[C]

I guess I would check it out.

[B]

Yeah, it's pretty spectacular. But since I've seen it once, I'm like, yeah, saw that. There's a lot of things to see. And, you know, you just go, look at that.

[C]

Not enough years in the life.

[B]

It didn't blow me away that much, but I'd have to go see it again. Also, I was. It was before I had my green card. So on the way back, I was still here on a student visa. So on the way back, they stopped me at the border for, like, four hours while they had to, like, interrogate me, because they sometimes would just randomly do that when you're on a visa.

[C]

Well, where you coming from, eh?

[B]

Yeah. They're like, what? No, it's always the American side. The Canadians were fine. They didn't care. They were like, come in. I'm coming back. I'm like, I have a student visa. I go to school here. They were like, we don't know about this school. They were like, biochemist, huh? We don't know about this.

[C]

I was like, what? What?

[B]

What do you think I'm gonna do? Mix chemicals?

[C]

Bro, he's reaching.

[B]

Get him reaching, Dude. They locked. They put me in a room for ages. I needed to piss so bad. It was not fun.

[C]

Is that the only time you've been locked up?

[B]

Oh, no. The Homeland Security used to do that often when I would fly back and forth from England. I think it's pretty standard with kids on visas. They like to just randomly do that. They usually have to go talk to Homeland Security.

[C]

He talks about that in this podcast about the student visas being an issue in Canada.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Some of the refugees, right? Yeah, yeah. They have that fake refugees because bless

[C]

the real ones that are in danger, but there are liars out there.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

He's saying they need to be deported. Yeah. In a humane way.

[B]

He doesn't want to do the ice thing.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

He's going to be chill with them.

[C]

But politely asked to leave.

[B]

Politely. Here you go. Off you go. Here's your little maple travel. Maple syrup. Got to go.

[C]

Come back legally, eh?

[B]

Got to get out of there. Do they have big immigration problems in Canada?

[C]

Yeah, they have huge numbers of Chinese immigrants, Indian Immigrants.

[B]

Did they have a big flood like we did recently? Under.

[C]

I think the last 20 years have been pretty. They have been pumping them in over there.

[B]

Really?

[C]

Yeah. And I don't know what policies led

[B]

to that, but it's happening and it's caused some issues.

[C]

Yeah. You know, when cultures collide, they always can. Yeah. The Diwali festivals, the Indian festival, where they like to throw statues in rivers and whatnot. That.

[B]

That's a problem that's going on.

[C]

We should at least keep our environmental standards high so it doesn't look like the rest of the world.

[B]

I think it's worth it. Yeah. You should think about that. For sure. Well, overall, what was your feel of this guy since he came on? I mean, number one, like you pointed out earlier, they definitely brought out.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I think that Rogan said, come on again. Right. He doesn't always throw that out to guess. I think that Joe felt like, kind of, like, truly honored. He had that kind of, like, look about him. I watched the very end of the episode. There was like, a real, like, handshake, like, gentlemen meeting at, like, a respectful level.

[C]

That's nice.

[B]

Yeah. Joe was. Joe was impressed by him. And I think he came on and really handled himself well. I think Joe really respected him as a leader and just as a person. And so Joe had a.

[C]

Sent him an offer to go on before his election.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

What a missed opportunity on Pierre's part.

[B]

Yeah. But I guess he says that they don't leave the country during the election. 100.

[C]

I don't think. It's not even a rule. It's just. What? They just don't.

[B]

It's just polite thing.

[C]

Yeah. They just don't leave the country.

[B]

He 100% should have.

[C]

What a missed opportunity.

[B]

It would have gone a long way. Yeah, he definitely should have.

[C]

Because whatever critiques you have about Joe Rogan, he puts people on. He gets them on there.

[B]

Yep. Well, he wanted to talk to him. He wanted to figure out what was going on up there.

[C]

And he's only got great things. I like this guy. I'm bummed that he didn't make it in.

[B]

He did have a chance, but it sounds like they don't know when the election is. But for whatever reason, it's like, held off for some reason, and they're trying to figure that out, but, you know, he's got another chance.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So we'll see. And I'm. I'm interested to see if he does get in what they do and how that changes the relationships for the US And Canada and what that means for us. Like, he made a big point about they got to get rid of the tariffs.

[C]

Yeah, we gotta get rid of those things.

[B]

And we're buying a lot of stuff from up there. We need their aluminum. We need a bunch of stuff for night vision or whatever and a lot of things for tech and blah, blah, blah. It's like, hey, yeah, we need to buy that stuff. We need good deals.

[C]

But this makes good sense.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

They should be our friends. Mexico and Canada. We're on the same team over here.

[B]

It seems to make sense that we should have good relationships with the closest neighbors. Right?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like, okay, if Trump's upset with China, then sure have some tariffs in that direction, but do we need to be messing with people north and south? They're right there.

[C]

They're right there. And we build our home, a lot of our homes from Canadian lumber.

[B]

Oh, that's. Yeah, he said that's most of the wood that we get.

[C]

Right. I see a lot of stamps when I'm working with two i4s. They're either from. They're from. Generally from Canada. The little maple leaf right on there.

[B]

Right? Yeah. We can't pay an extra.

[C]

Oh, come on.

[B]

Vice versa.

[C]

That's one way to drive our house. Surprising houses up.

[B]

That's it. We need it. Well, hopefully they can start working together if he gets in. But we'll see the banking guys in there for right now, so fingers crossed. But I like that guy. I thought he was solid. I give this episode a decent eight out of ten.

[C]

I agree.

[B]

Yeah. Anyway, that's it for this week. I hope you enjoyed it. We have some more coming up. And later,