Jokermen Podcast: In Conversation with Lance Bangs
Release Date: April 13, 2025
Host: Ian (Jokermen)
1. Introduction and Overview
In this engaging episode of the Jokermen Podcast, host Ian sits down with acclaimed filmmaker Lance Bangs to discuss a myriad of his recent and ongoing projects. Lance Bangs, known for his diverse portfolio ranging from music videos to documentaries, shares insights into his creative process, collaborations, and reflections on iconic bands like R.E.M. and Pavement.
2. Recent Projects Highlight
a. MJ Linderman's "Wristwatch" Music Video
Lance delves into his collaboration with indie rock sensation M.J. Linderman on the music video for "Wristwatch," the standout track from Linderman's latest record, Manning Fireworks.
Notable Quote:
Lance Bangs: "I had wanted to make something with Jake for that record... It worked out that like January of 2025 is the time that we could kind of get together to shoot something."
(02:14)
He describes the creative challenges faced, such as shooting in winter conditions with limited daylight, and the innovative concept inspired by the infamous low-clearance "Can Opener" bridge in Durham, North Carolina. The video features Linderman's character persistently driving trucks into the bridge, symbolizing repeating mistakes, seamlessly blending with real footage from the "11 Foot 8" YouTube channel that documents actual truck mishaps at the bridge.
Notable Quote:
Lance Bangs: "We have him genuinely, truly driving trucks into that bridge and knocking vehicles apart over and over again."
(03:37)
b. Documentary on Michael Shannon and Jason Narducci’s R.E.M. Revival Tour
Lance discusses his recent documentary work following actors Michael Shannon and Jason Narducci as they embark on a unique tour revitalizing R.E.M.'s seminal albums.
Notable Quote:
Lance Bangs: "They were doing Murmur and then Chronic Town and a bunch of stuff off A Reckoning... It's like an emotionally different thing for them."
(09:53)
He highlights the spontaneous and heartfelt participation of actual R.E.M. members during the tour, creating an authentic and emotionally charged experience without formal reunions or rehearsed performances.
Notable Quote:
Lance Bangs: "Peter Buck had been playing guitar and a bunch of songs, and Mike Mills had been getting up and down, playing bass parts and doing some backing vocals... It was like, you know, that was such a personal experience with the music."
(16:27)
c. "Pavements" Motion Picture
Perhaps the most ambitious project discussed is the upcoming feature film Pavements, a kaleidoscopic exploration of the influential band Pavement.
Notable Quote:
Lance Bangs: "It's a kaleidoscopic film... wove together different elements very satisfyingly."
(25:55)
The film intertwines archival footage, staged exhibits, Broadway-style performances of Pavement's music, and reunion tour clips to create a multifaceted narrative that captures the essence of the band without adhering to a traditional biopic format.
Notable Quote:
Lance Bangs: "It's kind of a kaleidoscopic approach where Pavement existed in different aesthetics... and refracted through various versions of the band."
(26:22)
3. Reflections on Indie Music and Band Dynamics
a. MJ Linderman’s Rise and Authenticity
Ian and Lance commend M.J. Linderman's authentic approach to music, noting his ability to maintain uniqueness while achieving significant success.
Notable Quote:
Ian: "He's really honest. I can't think of the last indie rocker that has... been so successful, not only popularity wise, but executing his vision effortlessly."
(05:47)
b. R.E.M.'s Unique Reunion Experience
The conversation shifts to R.E.M.'s selective and emotionally driven reunion performances, contrasting them with typical band reunions driven by commercial incentives.
Notable Quote:
Ian: "It's a really fascinating approach... it's a new direction entirely for the way that a band with an interesting catalog can continue to represent that material."
(14:09)
Lance praises the spontaneity and genuine connection among the performers, emphasizing the emotional depth and respectful handling of R.E.M.'s legacy.
4. Pavement's Reunions and Legacy
Lance shares his enthusiasm for Pavement's reunion tours, particularly highlighting the introduction of Rebecca Cole, which brought a fresh dynamic to the band. He appreciates how the band explored deeper setlists and new arrangements, showcasing their commitment to evolving their live performances.
Notable Quote:
Lance Bangs: "Rebecca Cole... contributed to everything. They were really diligent about making a much deeper set list... figuring out arrangements of those and rehearsing them."
(37:27)
Ian reflects on his personal experiences attending Pavement's shows, noting the band's dedication and the immersive atmosphere they create for fans.
5. Future Endeavors and Upcoming Releases
a. Screening of "Pavements"
Lance announces that Pavements will premiere in theaters across North America starting in November, with screenings scheduled throughout April and May in various college towns and music-centric regions.
Notable Quote:
Lance Bangs: "It premiered at the Venice Film Festival... People have enjoyed the movie, whether they're Pavement fans or not."
(29:29)
b. Eric Andre's "Corporal" Project
In addition to his work on music videos and documentaries, Lance mentions his involvement in filming comedian and musician Eric Andre's new record, Corporal, which features scores for non-existent films.
Notable Quote:
Lance Bangs: "Eric Andre... created score for films that don't actually exist... documented and filmed the process of him making that."
(50:33)
This innovative project showcases Lance's versatility and his ability to capture the creative processes of artists across different mediums.
6. Personal Anecdotes and Insights
Throughout the conversation, Lance shares personal stories from his time working with bands like Pavement and artists like David Berman of Silver Jews. He candidly discusses the complexities of collaborating with talented yet challenging personalities, adding depth to his professional narrative.
Notable Quote:
Lance Bangs: "David could be a really fascinating host and person to be around. He could also be difficult to be around."
(46:23)
Ian echoes these sentiments, highlighting the delicate balance required when working with generationally talented and complex artists.
7. Closing Remarks
The episode wraps up with discussions about upcoming projects, future collaborations, and the enduring impact of Lance Bangs' work in the indie music and film scenes. Both Ian and Lance express their excitement for continued creative ventures and the opportunity to explore new narratives together.
Notable Quote:
Lance Bangs: "There's one other thing that's coming out pretty quickly... Eric Andre's record... it's coming out on Stone's Throw soon."
(50:29)
Ian thanks Lance for his time and contributions, looking forward to future episodes and collaborations.
Conclusion
This episode of the Jokermen Podcast offers a comprehensive look into Lance Bangs' multifaceted career, his passion for authentic storytelling, and his unwavering dedication to capturing the essence of indie music and culture. Through insightful discussions and personal anecdotes, listeners gain a deeper appreciation for the intricate processes behind music videos, documentaries, and feature films that celebrate legendary bands and emerging artists alike.
Links and References:
- Manning Fireworks by M.J. Linderman - Patreon
- Pavements Motion Picture - Premiering November 2025
- Eric Andre's Corporal - Stone's Throw Records
Note: All timestamps correspond to the transcript provided and are included to highlight notable discussion points within the episode.