Jokermen Podcast Summary: "Teaser // Billy Joel: PIANO MAN"
Release Date: May 19, 2025
Introduction
In the "Teaser // Billy Joel: PIANO MAN" episode of the Jokermen Podcast, hosts Jokermen engage in a lively discussion exploring various aspects of Billy Joel's career, persona, and the landscape of Billy Joel-focused podcasts. This episode delves into the nuances of Joel's music, public image, and the challenges faced by podcasts dedicated to chronicling his legacy.
Exploring Existing Billy Joel Podcasts
The conversation begins with a humorous examination of the current state of Billy Joel podcasts. Hosts Jokermen and his co-host, Evan, brainstorm potential names and critique existing podcasts dedicated to the iconic musician.
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Podcast Naming and Competition:
- [02:16] B: “Welcome back to your number one. Number one Billy Joel Fan club Podcast Knowledge Center.”
- [02:28] A: “Online Knowledge center. Welcome to the Billy Joel Knowledge Center.”
They explore various podcast titles such as "Billy Joel A to Z," "Billy Joel Audio Biography," and "We Didn't Start the Podcast," offering critiques on format and longevity.
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Critique of Podcast Formulas:
- [03:36] A: “...you just need to pivot to a totally new artist. That's the secret formula.”
The hosts express frustration with podcasts that attempt to cover all of Joel's albums exhaustively, suggesting that this approach may not sustain long-term interest.
Analyzing Billy Joel's Artistic Persona
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to dissecting Billy Joel's public persona and artistic expression. The hosts discuss Joel's demeanor, lyrical themes, and the subtle undertones in his music that may reflect his personal experiences and attitudes.
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Self-Congratulatory Tone:
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[05:37] A: “...he seems to have a sense of humor but stops it himself maybe.”
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[07:42] B: “...a chip on his shoulder, and it took him a long time to crack the industry...”
The hosts suggest that Joel's music often carries a sense of self-praise and reflects his journey of perseverance in the music industry. They debate whether this comes across as arrogance or self-awareness.
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Comparison to Other Artists:
- [10:15] B: “…a blank slate in a, in a sense, but like a blank slate in the complete opposite way that Bob Dylan is a blank slate.”
Comparing Joel to contemporaries like Bob Dylan, the hosts highlight the uniqueness of his approach and persona in the music world.
Recent Media Coverage and Comparisons
The discussion shifts to recent media portrayals of Billy Joel, particularly focusing on YouTube reviews and interviews. The hosts analyze how modern content creators perceive and critique Joel's work.
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YouTube Reviews:
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[04:10] A: “...a review of Cold Spring Harbor just to kind of take the temperature.”
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[05:01] B: “...no review of no Piano Man. The subject of this episode.”
They reflect on a YouTube review of Joel's "Cold Spring Harbor" album, noting its similarity to the content and style of the Jokermen Podcast, and express a desire for more in-depth discussions on iconic songs like "Piano Man."
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Discussion on Billy Joel's Catalog and Values
A critical segment of the episode focuses on Billy Joel's approach to his music catalog, particularly his reluctance to sell his songs despite significant financial incentives.
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Reluctance to Sell Music Rights:
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[08:43] A: “...how much would it have to be for you to sell those songs? And his answer is like, you know, a billion dollars.”
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[09:22] A: “...I respect that. I mean, whether or not this stuff is true and like, that he doesn't really think about the numbers...”
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Values Beyond Money:
- [10:06] B: “I don't think it's the money either. I think it's the fame and the recognition and really the respect out of all of it.”
The hosts admire Joel's commitment to preserving the integrity and personal significance of his music, emphasizing that his motivations extend beyond mere financial gain to encompass respect and artistic recognition.
Conclusion
In wrapping up the episode, Jokermen and Evan reflect on Billy Joel's enduring legacy and the complexity of his character as both an artist and a public figure. They acknowledge the challenges of maintaining a Billy Joel-focused podcast in a saturated media environment but remain optimistic about continuing to celebrate his contributions to music.
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Final Thoughts:
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[11:05] A: “I'm getting it out of my system now, I guess.”
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[11:06] B: “...he is this kind of blank slate in a. In a sense,...”
The hosts conclude by recognizing Billy Joel as a multifaceted artist whose work continues to inspire and provoke thoughtful discussion, underscoring the value of dedicated platforms like the Jokermen Podcast in keeping his legacy alive.
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Notable Quotes
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B on Billy Joel's Industry Perseverance:
“...he's a titan of the recording industry in the 20th century.”
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A on Respecting Joel's Decisions:
“I respect that. I mean, whether or not this stuff is true and like, that he doesn't really think about the numbers...”
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B on Podcast Formats:
“...take it for what it is, meet it where it's at, and not try to put too much extra armchair psychoanalysis into the program.”
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This episode offers a thought-provoking exploration of Billy Joel's artistry and the ways in which his work is engaged with by fans and critics alike. Through candid dialogue and insightful analysis, Jokermen provides listeners with a deeper understanding of one of music's enduring figures.
