Teaser // Brian Wilson: BRIAN WILSON (1988)

Summary

Jokermen Podcast Teaser – Brian Wilson: BRIAN WILSON (1988)

Main Theme:
This episode offers a deep-dive into Brian Wilson’s 1988 solo album, focusing particularly on the track “Baby, Let Your Hair Grow Long.” The Jokermen hosts explore thematic continuities in Wilson’s lyrics, playful subtext, and the eccentricities of his songwriting, especially regarding the so-called “Hair Trilogy.” The podcast combines sharp analysis with irreverent humor, parsing both meanings and motifs in Brian's post-Beach Boys work.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introducing “Baby, Let Your Hair Grow Long” as a Successor to “Caroline No”

• The hosts immediately draw a parallel between “Baby, Let Your Hair Grow Long” and the classic Beach Boys song, “Caroline, No,” discussing it in the context of a continuing theme in Wilson’s work.
  • [00:01] Host 1: “There's a redemptive quality to this one too... I can't help but think of 'Caroline, No.' And then think about this song.”
  • [00:18] Host 2: “This song... is sort of a rejoinder to ‘Caroline, No.’ I like to think of it as the third part in the Hair trilogy.”
  • The “Hair Trilogy” includes “Caroline, No,” “She’s Going Bald,” and now “Baby, Let Your Hair Grow Long.”

2. Motifs of Hair, Youth, and Repetition

• The recurring symbol of hair is highlighted, with both hosts joking about its persistent appearance in Wilson’s catalogue.
  • [00:51] Host 1: “Trilogy in Friends... I convinced them not to make you cut off your hair.”
  • The hosts acknowledge Wilson’s fondness for themes and visual images that repeat throughout his discography.

3. Production Choices and 80s Polishing

• They critique the song’s production style and the prominent use of synthesizers.
  • [00:59] Host 2: “We’re back to the, you know, bopping you on the head with a hammer type [song]. Those synthesizers... maybe the most objectionable thing on this entire record.”
  • [02:17] Host 1: “It does have a lot of kind of classical Brian swings... it’s a bit over buffed. It's a bit like overly polished but you know, par for the course.”

4. Brian Wilson’s Own Words: Sexual or Not?

• The podcast samples an interview from the album's press materials, quoting Brian about the song’s meaning:
  • [02:36] Host 2: “Brian says it is...a song about sexual ideas... At first...maybe it should be a love song... then I put in a couple sexual lines... let’s get rid of some of the love aspects... and put in more sexual lyrics.”
  • The hosts question what exactly is "sexual" about the lyrics, humorously searching for innuendo within mostly innocent lines.

5. Comic Interpretation of Ambiguity

• Laughter erupts as the hosts irreverently dissect Wilson’s comments and possible subtext:
  • [03:29] Host 1: “I mean, I'm trying to pull them up and I. I don't think I see any.”
  • [03:33] Host 2: “Maybe he’s saying, like...don’t shave your...”
  • [04:41] Host 1: “Wait, wait, are we retconning? Not we—Brian Wilson is retconning ‘Caroline No’.”
  • [04:48] Host 1: “He’s saying ‘Caroline No’ is...about her bush is being horned up. Exactly that. Caroline No’s it’s about the pussy folks you shave...So is ‘Going Bald’ now also part of this?”

6. Hair as a Symbol of Beauty (Brian’s Perspective)

• [05:07] Host 2 reads further: “Does hair symbolize something to you, Brian?”
  • Brian: “It exemplifies beauty in a girl."
  • David Leaf: "So you’re saying—"
  • Brian: “Make yourself beautiful again.”

7. Transition to Other Recurring (and Troubling) Brian Wilson Themes

• The hosts segue toward the next track, noting Wilson’s complex and sometimes uncomfortable fixation on themes of childhood and innocence.
  • [06:04] Host 1: “You gotta just accept at this point that these are the, the auteurist themes... The adult and the child forever, forever linked in.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the “Hair Trilogy”:

  • Host 2 [00:18]: “I like to think of it as the third part in the Hair trilogy.”
  • Host 1 [00:28]: “She’s going bald.”
  • Host 1 [00:51]: “Trilogy in Friends... I convinced them not to make you cut off your hair.”

• On Production and Synths:

  • Host 2 [00:59]: “Those synthesizers...maybe the most objectionable thing on this entire record.”

• On Meaning & Subtext:

  • Host 2 quoting Brian [02:36]: “But then I put in a couple sexual lines, and then I said, wait a minute, let’s get rid of some of the love aspects, romantic aspects of this song and put in more sexual lyrics.”
  • Host 1 [03:29]: “I’m trying to pull them up and I. I don’t think I see any.”
  • Host 2 [03:33]: “Maybe he’s saying, like, you know, baby, let your hair grow long. Like, you know, don’t shave your—”
  • Host 1 [04:48]: "He’s saying Caroline No’s about the pussy folks you shave..."

• On Imagery and Brian’s Motifs:

  • Host 1 [05:58]: “You gotta just accept at this point that these are the, the auteurist themes... The adult and the child forever, forever linked in.”

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Essential Timestamps

• 00:01 – 00:33: The emergence of the “Hair Trilogy” and hair as recurring motif.
• 00:59 – 02:36: Production commentary and playing of “Baby, Let Your Hair Grow Long.”
• 02:36 – 04:41: Dissecting Brian Wilson’s own comments on the song’s supposed sexuality (with direct pulls from the David Leaf interview).
• 05:07 – 05:24: Brian Wilson on hair as a symbol of beauty.
• 05:58 – 06:04: Discussion of uncomfortable, recurring themes in Wilson’s lyrics ("the adult and the child... forever linked in").

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Summary Conclusion

This episode of Jokermen offers a lively, humorous, and insightful discussion into Brian Wilson’s enduring themes, especially as they surface in his solo work—hair as a symbol, shifting between innocence and sexuality, and his penchant for revisiting certain motifs. The hosts blend close analysis with irreverence, keeping things both accessible for newcomers and rewarding for hardcore fans, always returning to the distinctive (and sometimes bizarre) genius of Brian Wilson’s songwriting.

Transcript

[Host 1]

And then the next one has kind of got like. There's a redemptive quality to this one too. I mean, the idea of it is. Well, it reminds me of. You know, I can't help but think of Caroline. No. And then think about this song.

[Host 2]

Well, yeah, I mean, this song is Baby, Let yout Hair Grow Long. Yeah. Is sort of a rejoinder to Caroline. No. I like to think of it as the third part in the Hair trilogy.

[Host 1]

Right.

[Host 2]

From Caroline. No. And this song.

[Host 1]

She's going bald.

[Host 2]

She's going bald. Of course. Exactly.

[Host 1]

The Hair trilogy. And you know, there's another little side Sideways. There's another piece there. Trilogy in. In Friends. I convinced. I told your parents or like I convinced them not to make you cut off your hair.

[Host 2]

Oh, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah.

[Host 1]

Themes, themes and repeating motifs and themes.

[Host 2]

Images. Exactly.

[Host 1]

Images and themes.

[Host 2]

This is why you listen to this podcast for the deep seated analysis of the hidden messages and meanings behind Brian Wilson songwriting. Yeah. I mean, Baby, let yout Hair Grow Long. We're back to the, you know, bopping you on the head with a hammer type. I think those synthesizers in particular. Do, do do do do do do do. Like that's maybe the most objectionable thing on this entire record.

[Guest or Performer]

I wish you'd listen when I tell you now Baby, let your hair grow it's not too late to have another thing Baby, let your head go now your head in just the way you used to be.

[Host 2]

I like, I love it at this point, but it's you. You really gotta meet this one where it's at, I think.

[Host 1]

But it does have a lot of kind of classical Brian swings going on.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

I mean, yeah, it's a bit over buffed. It's a bit like overly polished but you know, par for the course.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Pretty much everything here.

[Host 1]

It's not a bad song at all.

[Host 2]

No. Let's see. We can hear from Brian on this one. There's a big long interview between him and David Leaf that I pulled a couple quotes from that came out of the kind of press packet for this album in 1988. David says, Baby, let your hair grow long also sounds like it was written with a strong point of view. Brian says it is, of course a sexual song. Oh, a song. A song about sexual ideas. At first when I wrote the melody, I thought maybe it should be a love song because it started sounding like a love song to me. And I tried a working lyric that had a lot to do with love and affection and that kind of thing. But I didn't like It. Most of the lyrics were romantic, but then I put in a couple sexual lines, and then I said, wait a minute, let's get rid of some of the love aspects, Romantic aspects of this song and put in more sexual lyrics.

[Host 1]

Which are the sexual lyrics?

[Host 2]

Your guess is as good as mine.

[Host 1]

I mean, I'm trying to pull them up and I. I don't think I see any.

[Host 2]

Maybe he's saying, like, you know, baby, let your hair grow long. Like, you know, don't shave your.

[Host 1]

Don't shave your. Yeah, I think that. I mean, I. That is. That must be it. But I don't know that he's. He just never, like, made clear to anyone that, like, the. The hair is not. He's just like, yeah. You know that song I wrote? Pretty raunchy, huh? He's like, what do you mean, you know?

[Host 2]

You know, I think that that might be it. I wish you'd listen when I tell you now Baby, let your hair grow long in my mind I can see just the way you used to be. Don't want girls who don't care about nothing and throw their lives away. You know, at some point in the past, she had a nice, nice, big garage.

[Host 1]

All right, all right. I think that we don't care about nothing Throw their lives away. Ye.

[Host 2]

David Leaf. Back to the interview. When I first heard this song, I thought of the end of Pet Sounds. When you sing where did all your long hair go? No, it's kind of like you're singing to that same thing. Do you feel that at all, or is it just my imagination? Brian says, no, it's still the same mood. That mood is sexual.

[Host 1]

Wait, wait, are we retconning? Not we.

[Host 2]

Brian Wilson is retconning Caroline Noe.

[Host 1]

He's saying Caroline Noe is. Is about her bush is being horned up. Exactly that. Caroline knows it's about the pussy folks you shave. So is going bald now also part of this?

[Host 2]

Okay, I'm just looking at more of this interview. Does hair symbolize something to you, Brian? Brian. It exemplifies beauty in a girl. David Leaf says. So you're saying Brian completes the thought. Make yourself beautiful again.

[Guest or Performer]

There's no way I can help you. You gotta do it all by yourself. Now the one. Cause you don't give out nothing. And brother, like the way Rol.

[Host 1]

Okay, and then. Classic. Classic Brian Wilson. Foreign. The very next thing we're going to talk about is a song called Little children.

[Host 2]

Hey, little children, we're marching along Come. Hey, little tomboy, come sit on my.

[Host 1]

Lap I mean, what, what, what? You gotta, you gotta just accept at this point that these are the, the autourist themes. These, these are the repeating ideas that come up all the time in Brian's music. Is the. The adult and the child forever. Forever. LinkedIn.