Rededicate 250 | Ep. 05: Michelle Backus

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Jonathan Shuttlesworth – Rededicate 250 | Ep. 05: Michelle Backus

Date: May 23, 2026
Guest: Michelle Backus (Political Consultant, Fox News Commentator)
Host: Jonathan Shuttlesworth

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode features a fast-paced, insightful conversation between Pastor Jonathan Shuttlesworth and political consultant Michelle Backus. Their discussion centers on the interplay between faith, modern American politics, campaign strategy, media commentary, and the practical challenges of advancing conservative causes during pivotal election cycles. The conversation also touches on the importance of effective grassroots initiatives, animal welfare in agriculture legislation, and the significance of churches that impact young generations.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Michelle Backus’ Political Journey

[00:14–01:26]

• Michelle explains her background in political consulting and media appearances:
  • Started working with local politicians in Pittsburgh, PA—especially Westmoreland County.
  • Ran the communications for Nicole Ziccarelli, the first female district attorney in Westmoreland.
  • Now appears on Fox News and Newsmax as a commentator and continues political consulting.
• Notable exchange about Pittsburgh roots and escaping the city’s iconic accent.

2. Media & Campaign Work

[01:26–02:43]

• Discussion of Michelle's role:
  • Engaged with multiple media outlets and campaign operations.
  • Commentary focuses: shifts in House/Senate control, effects of redistricting, and voter behavior.
• Hosts highlight the challenge of winning seats in traditionally blue areas.

3. Election Forecasts & The Role of Economic Issues

[02:43–03:48]

• Importance of the economy to voters:
  • Voters care most about direct, tangible issues—especially gas prices and groceries.
  • Foreign policy matters less to average Americans compared to day-to-day economics.
• Direct quote:

  “Middle America...they’re not looking at the headlines every day...They’re going to the grocery store, they’re going to the gas station. They’re seeing that gas.” — Michelle Backus [03:24]

4. Cabinet Picks: Favor and Critique

[04:04–05:16]

• Michelle openly shares opinions on notable political figures:
  • Least favorite pick: Christy Noem (“I’m biased because I’m a massive animal lover.” [04:06])
  • Brief discussion on animal rights, referencing Noem’s controversial actions.
  • Favorite pick: Marco Rubio, praised for his impactful work.

5. Policy Concerns: Factory Farming & Animal Welfare

[05:16–06:03]

• Discussion on the “Save Our Bacon” act:
  • Michelle highlights inhumane treatment of pigs and her support for animal rights—even as a Republican.
  • Quotes the intelligence of pigs and likens their behavior to dogs.
  • Transparent stance:

    “I’m a terrible Republican. I give to PETA. I’m so big in animal rights...” — Michelle Backus [05:36]

6. Accountability & Attorney General Critique

[06:03–08:19]

• Host and Michelle question the effectiveness of former officials: Pam Bondi criticized for lack of action, especially on high-profile issues like the Epstein case.
• Michelle relates to influencers misled by political showmanship over substance.
• Conversation about how public expectations often clash with political realities.

7. Campaign Dynamics & Gender Bias in Politics

[08:19–11:28]

• Analysis of campaign performance in current elections, focusing on national figures like Thomas Massie and Lauren Boebert.
• Discussion on opposition research (“oppo files”) and negative campaigning.
• Transparent look at misogyny in politics:
  • Michelle recounts vile messages and societal hypocrisy, especially from self-labelled “kind” individuals:

    “It’s always middle aged women and their bios are always things like ‘live, laugh, love’ or ‘be kind,’ and they’re calling me the most vile names they could think of.” — Michelle Backus [11:02]

8. The Power of Trump Endorsements

[09:21–09:29]

• Trump’s endorsements remain impactful nationwide, as recent election cycles have proven.

9. Ballot Chasing & Grassroots Activism: Citizens Alliance

[13:07–15:00]

• Michelle outlines her work with the PAC Citizens Alliance and its role in ballot chasing—an initiative to bolster Republican turnout by tracking and urging ballot return.
• Shout-out to Citizens Alliance transparency:
  • Explains where donations go and how operations are managed.
  • Cites reports and accountability as superior to many other non-profits.
  • Example: Airbnb rentals for campaign door knockers are openly tracked and reported.

10. Faith, Church Community, and Next Generation Leaders

[15:16–16:34]

• Michelle's spiritual background:
  • Attended Cornerstone Church in Pittsburgh, but praises VU Church in Miami (Pastor Rich Wilkerson) as her favorite—describing its young demographic, community, and cultural impact.
• Jonathan reflects on the challenge of replicating such ministry energy:

  “You’re not going to find it replicated because he’s one of a kind. He built a one of a kind church.” — Jonathan Shuttlesworth [15:55]

11. Call to Action for Listeners

[16:40]

• Michelle directs listeners to Citizens Alliance (doorswinmores.com):

  “Go to Citizens Alliance doorswinmores.com please donate. If you want to get involved...we would love to have you. We’re doing some big things for the midterms. It’s going to be wonderful.” — Michelle Backus

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Animal Welfare & Party Loyalty

  “I’m a terrible Republican. I give to PETA. I’m so big in animal rights...” — Michelle Backus [05:36]

• On the Power of Endorsements

  “Trump’s endorsement matters a lot of places. Huh.” — Jonathan Shuttlesworth [09:21]

• On Misogyny in Politics

  “It’s always middle aged women and their bios are always things like ‘live, laugh, love’ or ‘be kind,’ and they’re calling me the most vile names...” — Michelle Backus [11:02]

• On Grassroots Initiative Impact

  “Every Republican that requested a ballot but didn’t turn it back in, [we] recruit people to go out and chase those ballots. Actually got Trump over the finish line.” — Michelle Backus [13:07]

• On the Unique Appeal of VU Church

  “It’s massive...you have to get there about an hour early to get a seat. It’s Miami...think of Miami, it’s partying...they’re such good role models in Miami.” — Michelle Backus [15:59, 16:12]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Background & Political Consulting: [00:14–01:26]
• Media & Fox News Work: [01:26–02:43]
• Election Forecast, Economy: [02:43–03:48]
• Cabinet Picks & Animal Rights: [04:04–05:16]
• Policy: Factory Farming: [05:16–06:03]
• Pam Bondi & Accountability: [06:03–08:19]
• Campaign Performance & Attacks on Female Politicians: [08:19–11:28]
• Trump's Endorsements: [09:21–09:29]
• Citizens Alliance & Ballot Chasing: [13:07–15:00]
• Churches, Faith, and Miami Culture: [15:16–16:34]
• Closing: Call to Action: [16:40]

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Tone & Style

The tone is candid, energetic, sometimes irreverent, and marked by Michelle’s openness and the host’s friendly, direct style. They balance light banter with substantive policy and campaign insights, mirroring the blend of faith and real-world challenges that Revival Today aims to address.

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For more info or to get involved, visit: doorswinmores.com (Citizens Alliance)

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Transcript

[Jonathan Shuttlesworth]

Welcome to the Jonathan Shuttlesworth Podcast. To stay connected, go toreviewtoday.com. and now, here is evangelist Jonathan.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

What do you host on Real America's Voice?

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

I just kind of help out

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Fox News.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Yeah, but I. I used to show.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

What are you doing Fox News? I know we're not. Well, we're not supposed to cross promote, but I'm curious.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Oh, I. No, I just say political commentary.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

What's your. What got you into political commentary?

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

I have an LLC that's like faulting, so. Oh, like, is there. We're on. Yeah. That's how I got a little. Wow. We do it. I had no idea that's how unprofessional we are.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

People can't even tell.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Oh, my goodness. This is wonderful. Well, it's great to be with everyone. So I have a political consulting business, and I started out with local politicians and then Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania? Yes. Where at? Get out.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

I live in Wexford. We have a church in Pittsburgh.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

No. So I'm from Monroeville.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Oh, I know. I know where that is.376.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

So I.1 of my clients, if you know Westmoreland County, Nicole Ziccarelli, she's the first female district attorney.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yes. She's great.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Yeah, she's wonderful.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

You helped with that.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

I ran her comms. Yep. Back then.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

That's a big deal to win in Pittsburgh. It's as blue as it gets.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Well, that went west. Harley County.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

How did you win? Oh, Westmoreland.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

But still not easy to win.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

No, no. So she. That. That year. What was that? 2021. It was a clean sweep. So all four Republicans were able to get in.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

How did you lose your Pittsburgh accent? Parents are from Sweden or something.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

So you don't think I have an accent?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

You don't.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Oh, thank goodness. Because I've had people say I do before.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Maybe you used to.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Okay, you guys don't have Pittsburgh accents.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Their parents are from Puerto Rico and they grew up in Boston. I'm from Pittsburgh, but we moved away for a little while, maybe. Moving away.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

You know what it is with the Pittsburgh accent is the way they say their O's. Like it's now they draw it out

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

like you spot it anywhere.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Yeah, guys.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah. I grew up in Bridgeville, so that's cool. You're from Monroeville.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Oh, my goodness. What a small world.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

So then how did Fox News open up after that?

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Well, I was on the campaign trail. I was working with the pac. I was working with Real America's Voice. I Doing some consulting for other politicians. And now just. I'll go on Fox News typically like once a week to talk about commentary. I'll go on Newsmax. It really depends on also if you

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

had to put money down, obviously we don't promote gambling, but if you were going to put money down, how would you bet on couch on the House for the midterms if you had to slap five grand down?

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Right now I want to be very optimistic.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Right, but you also want to make money. So right now can change.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

If you're just going straight on wanting to make a good bet.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Well, you know what? Actually, I, I will say because of the redistricting efforts right now, we could come out, Republicans could keep the House with the House.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Senate's a lost cause.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Right to pets.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

There's a, there's an. What percentage chance Republicans take the Senate, in your opinion?

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

See, I think it's circumstantial on a few things. The number one thing being Iran. Right. Because you look at what about what,

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

like if you were running everybody's campaign or had like a ton of control in the country, what would you want to see done in Iran that would benefit the Republicans in the midterm?

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

I think it would just be wrapping it up and getting prices low. Obviously, this is a long term game for president.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Gas prices matter.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Gas prices matter. At the end of the day, you have to consider middle America. Right. They're not looking at the headlines every day. They're not looking at the intricacies of foreign policy and how this is going to benefit us 10 years down the road. They're going to the grocery store, they're going to the gas station. They're seeing that gas. I mean, even me the other day, four dollars and fifty cents. I was like, what?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Where are you based now?

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

West Palm Beach.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Oh, we're at.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yes.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Yeah. So I think that's the big issue. At the end of the day. A majority of Americans aren't looking at the intricate foreign policy of all this. They're just going to the grocery store and they're seeing the gas prices. And that's unfortunately a problem. You know, at the end of the day, the economy is always going to be the number one issue. Yes.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Least favorite cabinet pick by president.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Oh, my gosh. I'm biased because I'm a massive animal lover.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Everybody's biased.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

So Christy Noem.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yes. Oh, yeah. But she's gone.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

She's gone. I know, I know. I was a little shocking.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

She just posted a reel on Instagram today of her shooting a Dog. From, like, Point Blank Ring again.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Have you seen the south park episode?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Maybe. I'm a pastor. I've heard about it.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

He's watched it.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

I definitely watched it three times in a row. Okay, so now. Now that gnome's gone, who's your least favorite cabinet?

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

That's a good question. You're really putting me in the hot spot here. Who else am I not a massive fan of? Lee Zeldin has been somewhat anticlimactic.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah. Because he could have done more damage. Who's your favorite pick?

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Well, that's. I love Marco Rubio.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Me too.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

I think he's phenomenal. You know, RFK has been doing a lot of great things. However, we need to get this animal testing thing under control. And also the Save Our Bacon act in the farm bill, but.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Which is.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Save Our Bacon Act. What is that? So basically, obviously, factory farming is massive. That's where we get a majority of our food. And the way that they house the pigs is extremely inhumane. Amongst a ton of other things they do with factory farming. I'm a terrible Republican. I give to PETA. I'm so big in animal rights, but. So they put them in these.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah, but at least you're open about it, as opposed to the people that pretend they're for it. And then behind closed doors, they don't care.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Right, exactly. Exactly. So they put them in these very small gestation crates, and it's cruelty and torture and Pixar, I believe. What the seventh most in intelligent animal. They mimic a lot of characteristics of dogs.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Right. I've heard you can have some for pets.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's pretty cruel if we allow that to. To pass. Sure.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

You know, tell me about the. I'm not gonna put words in your mouth, but I was glad to see Pam Bondi go. And then the. The. The new guy.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

I forgot about Pam Bondi.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah. She did nothing.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

So you guys. You guys were happy about that?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

I don't know about her. I was. She didn't do anything.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

I mean, what. What was it that. But you didn't like her from before.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

I had a lawyer friend of mine in Florida say, don't get excited about Pam Bondi coming in because she's gonna do nothing.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Right.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

And then I decided, because she had worked, you know, she just said she's gonna be like, she's gonna sound like she's gonna come in guns blazing and nothing's gonna get done. And that's what happened. Between the passing out the fake Epstein file stuff that was like, nightmare. Like There should be a lot of people in jail, obviously. I realize a thousand people that work in government aren't gonna all get zip tied and thrown in prison, but one or two to be nice, you know, and you had the power to do it. And when you watch how the Democrats came after Trump

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

incessantly.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah. To literally destroy his life. I'm not looking for people's lives to get destroyed, but people that committed crimes should go to prison.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

And she did nothing. I like the new guy. He's done more in, what, 40 days than she did in the. The year and a half she was there. So I. I like him. How do you feel about Attorney General?

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Well, I. I will say this about Pam Bondi. If I was one of those influencers. Do you guys remember when she handed out those. Yes. Those binders. Right. And everyone comes out and it's a big media moment. Everyone's taking selfies. I was one of those influencers, actually. A couple of them, my friends. Jack Osovic was one of them. I would be livid. I would be so mad, because that's. That's so embarrassing. She was.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah, but weren't you taking a look at it before you came out and got used for a photo op?

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Doubts me. Probably not. Because I probably would have trusted her. You know, she's. That's an honest answer every single day, you know, saying that she's going to hold these people accountable and she's going to get all of them and then nothing. So maybe I'm too naive in that sense. I would have believed her. All right.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Especially. Yeah. And I guess you got to cut the influencer some slack, because it was early in the administration. It looked like it was early you could just trust.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

And it was still. It was still a time in which you could get away with all talk. Right. It was still early enough that, like, action didn't matter. So she was in a good position for a moment. Until she wasn't.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Who's up for reelection that's running the worst campaign, in your opinion right now, that you like from somebody that helps somebody get elected in a high office in Westmoreland county, you thought, what are they doing?

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

I am not familiar with Westmoreland county or Allegheny.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

No, I'm saying you helped the Attorney general. I'm talking about like. Like a representative. I'm talking a national election. When you watch their campaign for the House or the Senate, that they're up for reelection and you're thinking, like, who's running their campaign? They're doing terrible.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

You know, it's interesting. I'm really closely following the Thomas Massie

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

stuff in Kentucky, which got hot over the weekend.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Oh, yeah. Oh, it's gonna get hotter, too. It's going to get hotter.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

There's more stuff that's going to come around.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

You guys on Twitter?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

I am.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Do you see the divide?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yes.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Wilds.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

And he's. He's trailing now by, like, seven points. Right.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Depending on the poll. You see, he is really loved in his district to be there. Fully transparent. But, I mean, big money talks. We saw what happened in, what was it, Indiana, where anyone that went against Trump's redistricting efforts lost.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yes.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Trump's endorsement matters a lot of places. Huh.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

You know, people still think that it doesn't, but it does. It does. Indiana was a good indication of that.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Wow, That's a good point. Yeah. Massey. I didn't think anything was going to happen to him. Now it looks like he's. He's hurting. That's. That stuff doesn't go away when it's not a good time to have women saying, you, you like. You use them and stuff like that when you're running for reelection.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

But you know what? So funny. Every single candidate has an oppo file. Right. An opposition file. That's what happens when you're in politics. So whoever your rival is, you pay a lot of money and they dig up dirt and even the most random things. So, you know, where you lived in 2014, who you dated, you know, they might call someone, what properties you owned. It's interesting that they waited so long to release this. Yeah. Or maybe they were just aggressively digging and couldn't get anything tangible until this point. If it is, I. You know, that's very interesting. Politics is cutthroat. It sure is. It's cutthroat ugly out there. You know, I will say this. I see the women in politics get it the worst, more so than any other industry, shade, men, anything. It's like in politics, there's no rules, there's no guidelines. You can say whatever to them. I mean, even when I was running Nicole's campaign, somebody wrote her the nastiest letter and told her that she needs to stick to baking cupcakes and stay in the kitchen.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Right.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Instead of running for dish to turn. Is that you?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

It was not me.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Oh, no. Oh, no, No.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

I was a supporter. It is interesting. I've always thought it was odd how, like, especially with Democrats, because they're like, they'll write stuff like that to people and. And they're. They're the Ones that are like most against saying that stuff to women. But then if it's a Republican woman.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

You came on. Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

You can light them on fire.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Oh, the biggest, the biggest hypocrites, always. You should see some of my DMs if I post something spicy. Right. It's always middle aged women and their bios are always things like live, laugh, love, or be kind to everyone. Yeah. And they're calling me the most vile names they could think of. I remember one time I had to go an urban dictionary and look up what she called me because I didn't even know what she. I didn't even know what it meant. Like, what does this even mean? You're way more sophisticated than me.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

So you said there's more stuff that's going to come out about Massey. Obviously you don't get sued for defamation, so you're not going to break it. But, like, what else do you know that other people don't know?

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

I. Oh, that's. That's spicy. See, I actually don't. I don't know too much about Massey. I don't have his oppo file, but I. Everyone has an opposition file, so maybe at this point they're just trying to pepper it in and get what they can. It's interesting.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Have you heard about any other trouble coming down the pike for anybody?

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

I think there's trouble with a lot of campaigns. We'll see. With Lauren Bovart, she just came out and said that she. Again going back to that Trump endorsement. Right. She just came out and said that she supports Thomas Massie and she also supports President Trump and that's not going over well. So we'll see what happens if she actually does get primaried or anything like that.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

So it's not a safe bet. But Republicans should take the House.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

I think with the redistricting efforts, we can.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

And Scott Besant, who has been. He might be my favorite. Him. Him and whoever we brought up earlier, I like the Treasury Secretary, but he said, and he hasn't been wrong once since Trump got in, that gas prices will be back to normal no later than September, which makes sense that they would make sure.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Yeah. Get in.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

And there's ways to manipulate it, even if Iran's not all cleared up, like the federal tax and all that. But then the Senate. The Senate is a long shot. Right?

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

We'll see. We'll see. I'd like to, I'd like to be optimistic, you guys. I'm gonna.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

I'm fine with me.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

So what do you have going on in the future, like, what's your next big project or thing? You're working on it.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

That is a good point. So I work with Citizens Alliance. It's a pac. The CEO, Cliff Maloney, is an amazing person. If you guys don't know him, look him up. He Iraqi ran the PA Chase in Pennsylvania 2024. So it's a ballot chasing initiative. So every Republican that requested a ballot but didn't turn us back in, he recruits people to go out and chase down those ballots. Actually got Trump over the finish line in 2024. Amazing. Obviously, there were tens of thousands of people who did that. Right. Low propensity voters, Republicans that just didn't, you know, didn't think to return their ballot. So we're working ahead of midterms. We're going to be in some pretty big states. So we're gearing up for all of that right now. Citizens alliance, by the way, I don't. Which camera are we on? I. You guys would think I'm a professional. Right there. Camera one, camera two. Citizens Alliance. You guys should check it out because they're doing amazing things. Ironically, Cliff and Charlie, Charlie Kirk were really, really great friends. And he really wants to honor Charl. Charlie's the one who told him, you need to go into Pennsylvania 2024 and nail that down for President Trump, which is what he was able to do again. Now we're looking at midterms and seeing if we can ensure we built that red wall. It's amazing.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Way to go.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Yeah, way to go. And you know what I love so much about Citizens Alliance? My last little spiel. Typically, I'm a, I'm a big fan, obviously, but the money that people donate, you can actually see where it's going. So you see, okay, we are running an Airbnb in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, for this amount of door knockers, they're going to be working time. That's where your money's going. As opposed to, you know, many nonprofits these days that want your money. We don't know where it's going. It's going to help. Don't worry. That's amazing. Yeah. So it. It's a really wonderful report that online. How does that even work? Yeah. So everything's reported, everything's tracked. We have a ton of employees that will ramp up hiring and pay. Awesome. Yeah. Yeah. So we are getting really excited for midterms.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

That's awesome. Thanks for. What was your interest in being here?

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

I love Real America's Voice, and they asked me to come out and I love God. And this is a wonderful event, and we're honoring 250 years in the best country in the world. Amen. Can't argue that.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Did you go to church when you lived in Pittsburgh?

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

I went to Cornerstone.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Really?

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah, I know that church.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Okay. So I have a confession to make.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

I'm listening.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

My favorite church that I haven't been able to replicate since is a church in Miami called VU Church. V O U S. Richard Wilkerson. Yes. Yes. Yes. Phenomenal.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

His dad's friends with my family.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Really?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yes.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Okay. Okay. It's amazing.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Is Cornerstone Gary Mitrick or not? No. You know, I can't remember who the pastor was in Cornerstone. Might have been Gary Mitcher.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Okay.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

No, vu's great.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Vu's phenomenal. And that's a lot of younger people.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yes.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

And you're not going to find it replicated because he's one of a kind. He built a one of a kind church.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Yeah, it's. It's massive to the extent you have to get there about an hour early to get a seat. It's so cr. And it's Miami. You know, think of Miami. It's partying. I. I don't know. I think of, like, sinful things in Miami.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

He made a real impact.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Huge. Every. His wife is so anointed. She's so great. They're wonderful. They're. They're such good role models in Miami, which, to be fair. Have you guys spent a lot of time in Miami?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

I spent enough to know exactly what you're talking about.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

It's hard. Yeah. There can be some questionable people out there that I think other people might accidentally look up to. Right? Yep. But they're good role models. They're great. They're doing good things down there.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

That's awesome. I'm glad I got to meet you. Tell everybody about. About that organization if they want to find it. Where can they go?

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

Yes. Go to Citizens alliance doorswinmores.com please donate. If you want to get involved, obviously, we would love to have you. We're doing some big things for the midterms. It's going to be wonderful. And you need every single vote possible.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

That's awesome.

[Political Consultant / Fox News Commentator]

All right, guys, thanks so much. Thanks for coming on.

[Jonathan Shuttlesworth]

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