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Joseph Z
I have a very powerful broadcast for you today. My friend Gabe Perrot is going to be with me in just a moment. And he's going to tell us about the moment when he had a skateboard accident, began to suffer greatly, and he actually passed away for a time and he went to heaven. And he's written a bestseller book that is called 18 Days in Heaven. He was recently on Fox News a number of things. And that was actually a prophecy that we released over his life that he would be on Fox News three years ago. And it has begun to happen. So the Lord's using Gabe mightily all over the world. It's something that we're going to get into. And I want to ask him the questions about what he saw in heaven, what his experiences were, and it's something that I think is going to be very beneficial to you. Now, just before I bring Gabe on, I want to say please repost this everywhere you can subscribe to the Joseph Z YouTube channel. Many people are going to be impacted by today's broadcast. And also I want to thank those of you who are partners in this ministry. Thank you so much for making it possible to do what we're doing. And we have a lot more to do. And so I want to encourage you right now, if you're watching and you feel an unction that maybe you want to join the family, please consider becoming a partner today by going to josephz.com we will call you back regularly and we're looking forward to hearing from you. So I hope you do it today. We are waiting to hear from you and we have a lot to do together. And I'll tell you, it's going to be powerful. One of the things we do when you partner is we will call you back regularly to minister to you, to speak life into you in the middle of the times we're all living in. This is gonna be a powerful time. JosephZ.com's how you do it, becoming part of the family. But I don't wanna take any more time. I'm so intrigued by the heaven narratives. There's some people that say they go to heaven all the time. But some people, truly, I believe, have had this encounter. The Apostle Paul did. My wife Heather went to heaven, wrote a book about it. But today, Gabe Perot is with us. And I think you're gonna be tremendously blessed through this conversation. Please repost this and let's bring Gabe on. Welcome to the broadcast.
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Gabe Perrot
Thanks so much for having me, Joseph.
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Joseph Z
Yeah, brother. Look, you and I talked before your accident we talked after your accident and it was interesting. The, the just the journey that you've had before, after the social media presence you've had, the way you've reached out to people online and now preaching all over. And then this book has been birthed out of your encounter when you had your accident and you spent 18 days in heaven. And that's the name of the book, eighteen Days in Heaven. Rick Renner wrote the Ford. I'm so thrilled to be one of the endorsers on this book. And Gabe, it's just taking off like wildfire. And I believe a lot of people are not only intrigued, they're being impacted by what the message is. So walk us through it a little bit. You had a skateboard accident and you ended up in a coma for 18 days. So I'll let you just begin.
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Gabe Perrot
Yeah, absolutely. We were riding down the road 30 miles per hour and I didn't think anything of it. It was a 70 degree sunny day in Texas, October 25, 2021. And I hit a bump in the middle of the road and I flipped right off and I landed directly on my head and I flatlined right then and there. Actually, they didn't tell my parents this right there, but I actually did flatline and they had to resuscitate me. So when they had me in the ambulance is actually when I was resuscitated. But even then I didn't fully come back. I was in just a natural coma. So I was completely non responsive rigid for three days. And then even after that, I went into an induced coma for 15 days because I wasn't getting enough oxygen. So it was a total of 18 days. And so all hope was lost. And what was so ironic about it all though was as much of a tragedy as that situation is, right? Like, you know, here is my own friend holding my lifeless body in his arms. But for me, it wasn't actually a tragedy at all. I didn't have any grief, I didn't have any sorrow, I didn't have any pain. And it was just so ironic because I remember exiting my body and I remember it was like, it was like I felt like I took my first breath in life. It literally was like, wait, this is oxygen.
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Joseph Z
When you exited your body, you felt like. I took my first breath of life in life.
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Gabe Perrot
I took my first breath in real life because everything before was 1/1,000th of how real what I was about to experience. And that. See, it sounds so ironic, right? Because why would somebody say they're alive yet their body's dead. How does that make any sense? But that's what I experienced.
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Joseph Z
Joseph, man. You know, I remember. Gabe, you know, we've talked about this because, you know, my wife Heather broke her neck, went to heaven, and we've had dialogues about this. And I've been very intrigued by your story and what's happened. We talked about it in the process when you're writing the book. And I remember the way you were grappling with revelation to the page. You know, how do you take this encounter and put it to the page? But it looks like you've done a pretty great job. So that being said, you took your first breath of life. You're there. And what were the first things you took your first breath of life? What happened?
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Gabe Perrot
Yeah, absolutely. Well, and I just want to say, you know, Heather's book is amazing. And if anything, you know, we. We both are kind of encountering. We are encountering the same heaven. And so she has a lot of things in her book that I was like, oh, my goodness, we wrote the same thing. It was crazy. But regardless, so as I was pulled out of my. It was like, I just. I just took, like, a breath and it was like, oh, my goodness, this is. This is real life. This is reality now. And I looked at my own body, and my friend John Michael Howell was holding it in his arms. It went complet plank. But as real as John Michael was, I saw the truth of the spiritual realm. I saw the truth of the second heaven before I was on my way to the third heaven. And in the second heaven, as I'm witnessing the spiritual realm, as real as John Michael was, his words and his prayers right then and there were even more real. And I actually saw his prayers clearer than I even saw him. His words were a foundation. His words were a structure that held my lifeless body in his arms. It wasn't just his physical arms holding me up. It was his words of life that were forming a structure that literally held my body. So. Right. Like, my entire perspective is changing now because life isn't just physical. Life isn't just flesh. But if there is something in the flesh, like it's even represented even more so by what is in the spirit, that is powerful.
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Joseph Z
Powerful.
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Gabe Perrot
And so I'm suctioned up through the second heaven, and in my peripheral, I am just. It was like a moment. I didn't see intimate details of that second heaven of the spiritual world. However, I will mention this. In my peripheral, I was just very aware of the impact that the principalities and powers and Rulers of the darkness of this world have over nations, over presidents, over entities. And specifically, I want to mention this, the familiar spirits, the multiple personalities, Joseph. They introduced themselves. They were so familiar with humans that humans thought that it was themselves. And now, of course, everything made sense why we have all these new identities. And, you know, I love it. Actually, one of. One of your team members, they say this and it's kind of true. It's the Alphabet Mafia.
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Joseph Z
And that's probably Elijah.
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Gabe Perrot
Yeah. But truly, I saw the truth of that Alphabet Mafia, though, like, for real, like, it is the multiple personalities, spirits that have. That have introduced themselves to so many humans. And it's so unfortunate because they really have convinced so many that it is themselves, that it's just their true identity. But it's not them. It's never been them. It's never been from humanity in the first place. And it has a very strong connection to actually Genesis 6 and the fallen angels and the watchers and the interbreeds. And so again, but that's another story. But that second heaven, I just always have to tell people we live in a very spiritual world. And I'm so thankful for your show because you expose the truth of the spiritual world. You expose the truth of the spirit spiral in the nations and what's going on.
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Joseph Z
Thanks.
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Gabe Perrot
And so as I'm. I just remember saying to myself, wow, that's chaos. Wow. It was like a civil war. And they actually feasted upon the words of free will. Agency, vehicles feasted on the words. They eat. They eat the words. They live off the words. They live off the authority that is given to them by humans because the Earth was the only thing they had after they were evicted from heaven. It was the only territory they had. And then even the fall happened. And chaos in between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2. Right. And so that's why they're so jealous for the authority here. That's why we live in such a chaotic world, is because they are always. They're always. And they feast on specifically links of unforgiveness. I saw banks over every person. There's literally a vault where these angels, these fallen angels would come in and feast on it like a buffet. They'd say, oh, this unforgiveness. Oh, this unforgiveness they're holding. Oh, this bitterness they're hold. And they would smile, they rejoice over it. It's like a sick thing.
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Joseph Z
A sick thing. So, man, it sounds like we need to do like another program where we get into the Nephilim and talk about all this stuff because this is, you know, it's pretty insightful. When you've been behind the veil and you see things now, you were just on multiple media outlets. One of them was Fox News. And you were on Fox News to the Nation with Kayleigh McEnany. And it was just awesome. You know, you begin to tell the story, and I'm thrilled because so many people, the story is intriguing, it's power, but really what they got to hear is the testimony of Jesus, and that's what's powerful. So you're on Fox. You're telling the story over and over again because now it's getting global acclaim. I mean, it's going everywhere by the favor of God for the glory Jesus gave. Tell us what it was like when you went into heaven.
- [09:55]
Gabe Perrot
Yeah, so as I was just pulled into this third heaven, it was a city that wasn't just an urban location. It wasn't just even a location, although it certainly was a location. It was a person, Joseph. It had a breath, it had a song. Not just seven senses. My seven senses came alive. Each sense would unfold into seven more. It would. You know, it would. Seven. It was seven times, 70 times seven, over and over and over again.
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Joseph Z
Wow.
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Gabe Perrot
As I would look at the. There was mountains, there was leaves, there's the trees, there's the flowers, there's the colors, there's the street, there's the gold, there's the monuments, there's the libraries. But every ounce and every. Every time I would even just peripherally see what was around me as I was headed towards the center, I would hear a song. I would smell the same song, I would feel the same song. And they sang to one another. It would reverberate all across heaven. And as the leaves would blow, they would sing, worthy is the lamb. Worthy is the lamb. Worthy is the Lamb. The same note would be received by the rivers of water. And the waves would crash back and forth and sing, worthy is the lamb.
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Joseph Z
Worthy.
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Gabe Perrot
It would be received. Received. The waves would be received. And sing, worthy. And everywhere you look, you just say, jesus, you're beautiful. And you look to the right and you say, jesus, you're beautiful. And you look up, down, back. There's no escape of him. Yes, he's in the center of the city. And even biblically, he is, but he is the city. See, he is the light. There's no sun because he is the light.
- [11:22]
Joseph Z
So dropping revelation bombs here, Gabe. That's pretty awesome, man. So when you're experiencing this, there's Been a lot of people that have had NDEs, near death experiences that have been through this stuff. And 18 days. 18 days. Were you. Do you believe? Because I know this is revelatory too. In the experience, were you, in your estimation, were you there 18 days?
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Gabe Perrot
You know, I say 18 days in heaven because that was the rough approximate time that I was totally out of consciousness. Right. Sure. I wasn't in my body.
- [11:56]
Joseph Z
Yeah.
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Gabe Perrot
And so that's what I say. But truthfully, you know, for my time in heaven, it was like a minute and a half. It was very short. Right. Because time doesn't exist the same when you stand outside of it.
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Joseph Z
Yep, I understand.
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Gabe Perrot
And especially, you know, I saw time like a piece of paper and Jesus folded it, folded it in his hands. And he wasn't limited by it, but it was limited by him. Like the.
- [12:18]
Joseph Z
Jesus folded a piece of paper in his hands.
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Gabe Perrot
So, so time, like all of time, all of time and all of the earth and all of the universe was literally just like a little piece of paper. That, that. Not paper, a cloth that he just folded in the past and the present and the future, they were all wrapped like, like in one piece. Okay. And then, and then, like just at the tip of his finger. You know, just how if you take ink and you plot. If I wrapped up this paper and I took ink and I just plotted it right here. If I then unfolded it, it's on the entire piece. See, I. I wish I had a pen so I could show everyone, but everyone knows what I'm talking about.
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Joseph Z
Yes.
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Gabe Perrot
See, right. Like, I put it in one piece, but now when I unfold it, I'm everywhere. See, so his. His cr. Very presence is not in one place. He's not just, just before the throne, his blood was paid for all of eternity. His love has. Has been shed abroad across all past, present and future. And see, I discovered my face was down because I was concerned that I was done for. The list of my mistakes was going to be pulled up. And, and even though, you know, before this experience I was born again, I had accepted the price he paid for my life. But still, like, this is a holy place. This is a place where you just, like, there's a reverence, there's a humility, right? Like, you're not going to come up here and tell him your opinion. You're not going to. You're not going to tell him your perspective. Like, this is holy. This is where he is. And so I'm just like, oh, my goodness, I'm done for. Like, I wouldn't even be surprised if I'm not allowed in this place. Like, wow. If I'm. If I'm just an acquaintance. And Joseph, while my face is down, he picks up my face and he looks me in the eyes and he says, Gabriel, why are you concerned about that? Which I paid for. And he said it was such a. He said it was such, such. He was actually asking me that, Joseph. He didn't know what I was concerned about. He was not even aware. He was never aware. Because forgiveness was not a one time thing. Forgiveness was not a thing that like, you know, I kind of worked towards or polished myself up for. Forgiveness was done, it was finished. The case was closed. What's that word? Tell us, tell us. Tie. Yeah, that's the word he spoke to me when he said paid for was like I felt like a legal. Like it was like a judge was speaking to me and telling me that the case was closed. Like it was like, like, like the judge was even angry at me. Like the judge even thought it was. It was. He was perplexed at why I would be concerned about a case that was closed.
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Joseph Z
Man, I want to. I got a couple questions, Gabe, because it's so powerful and I hope you're. You're just already getting the spirit of what Gabe's talking about as you're listening to this everybody, that the spirit of Christ Jesus, the Lord would begin to show you the redemptive qualities, the forgiveness of your sin. He didn't even see it because it was already dealt with. And I want to ask you this, and then I want to jump further into heaven. When you woke up from the experience, Gabe, did it all come back to you at once, like a rush? Or was it in segments or did it come over time that you remembered things? Because I know sometimes people have these experiences and then they wake up with it. Like it happened. Sometimes it comes in segments. It's almost like it starts unlocking and they remember. How was it with you?
- [15:26]
Gabe Perrot
Yeah, for sure. Well, at first, Joseph, all I could remember, I remember even, like the first day I came back, I remember just saying Jesus. And people would ask me, do you remember anything? And I would just say, Jesus.
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Joseph Z
Jesus.
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Gabe Perrot
So it definitely was a moment that unfolded. And as time would go by, it's just random moments that I would be going to sleep at night or really, Joseph, it was the more and more I read the Word of God, I would be reading scripture and I would actually be reminded of what I saw specifically with the book of Revelation. Every time I open the book of revelation. I remember a piece from my testimony.
- [16:05]
Joseph Z
Wow.
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Gabe Perrot
And when the Lord released me, actually the past year to start writing my book, to really start getting it out, words just flowed and it just broke out. It was like it really just unfolded. But definitely, putting an encounter like this into an English language has been something only God could help with, because it's not even something. And, you know, I'll never have a full memory or even be allowed to share everything that I'm sure. I'm sure it is something that cannot be put into the human brain. I mean, seriously, it's like the human brain can touch it, but still, it's
- [16:42]
Joseph Z
like, oh, man, you know, you're there. I don't know if we have the picture we could pull up of Gabe where he was in the hospital room and you had all the tubes, the things that were going on. Maybe we can just show a couple of those real quick, just so people understand the severity of what you went through. And then you're there, you're in this place, you're seeing all these circumstances unfold. And, you know, the reason I asked that question is because, you know, Heather had her encounter where she broke her neck, went there, and it took like 20 years of just kind of talking it through. This is you. This is you right there in the hospital. And then this is.
- [17:17]
Gabe Perrot
And I wasn't getting. And I wasn't getting enough oxygen. That was actually. That was roughly 14 days after my accident. I still wasn't getting enough oxygen, breathing only about once every 60 seconds. And that was actually right before they were going to take out my throat and just opened me up and really prepare the bags, if you know what I'm saying. Because things just weren't looking good. And it was actually right. Right before then is when I witnessed the prayers, the lit. The living organisms that were released, agreed with the word of God. The prayers I saw were literally their own living organisms of the word of God. And they were released by the family members of mine, friends of mine, even. I'm thankful for you. I know you were praying for me, and I'm so thankful for all. For all my philosophy and family. And, you know, I don't even say friends, Joseph, because you're family. Because, Joseph, I. I encountered in heaven. I encountered in heaven. You don't. You don't just have, like, family in Christ, or family, sisters in Christ, brothers in Christ. No, you're family. You're all one, period. There's no foster care system in heaven, because we all are one. We all are family. We all are even closer than earth. Brothers, we're closer than earth. Sons and daughters. Like. Like, I. I always have to clarify that for people, because people truly don't understand how real family is in heaven. And so, man, it was right before.
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Joseph Z
Yeah, you're doing that, and you're there. You go through this whole process. Thank God you're with us. It's so wonderful what the Lord has done. You know, with Heather's experience, we talked about it for probably 15 to 20 years, and she said, it's like I would begin to remember things, and the Lord would bring it back to me. And then it was so real. And I believe that's what you're talking about. And so you're in heaven. You go through the second heaven. You see people, the words that they're releasing. You see the way fallen angels and things just feed on that. You know, the world would call it negative energy, but words and these kind of things. But what are some of the most striking things you saw or experienced in heaven?
- [19:20]
Gabe Perrot
Absolutely. Well, I share this, actually. In chapter 14 of my book, Jesus showed me the timeline of Moses and Elisha. Joseph, I saw when Moses looked at that burning bush. I literally saw him first of all, before that burning bush. He didn't just have a speech impediment. The guy could barely talk at all. He was weak. He was emaciated. You would look at him and you would think to yourself, oh, my goodness,
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Joseph Z
he was a little guy.
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Gabe Perrot
Not just a little guy. The guy was nothing. The guy was so weak. The guy had. You would look at him and you just say, wow. Yeah. I would never trust him to do anything. Like, on the surface, the guy was nothing. But here's what happened, Joseph, when he was standing before that burning bush, he didn't see just a bush with fire. He saw the eyes of Christ himself. He saw the eyes of. Not just a fire, the fire. Not just some truth. The truth. And I have to share this. Sometimes it helps me to. To go back. In chapter 14, Moses, every objection started with if I. But then God thunderously responded with, I am who I am. So people need to understand. And I saw this at the burning bush. Moses found his identity, not in himself. When Moses saw I am, he saw who he was. Okay? And see, now we can understand why it says in Acts 17, in him we live and move and breathe and have our being.
- [20:46]
Joseph Z
That's right. Come on.
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Gabe Perrot
And now we can understand why God would send this man named Jesus Christ down to this earth who wasn't a man. He was the King of Kings, who became a man so that we could become in Christ, so that we could become like him, so that we could be found in our Father again. See, See, it's a perfect unity. It's a. It's a perfect in him, and he's in us now. See? And so Moses wasn't astounded when he saw Christ on the mountain later on, right?
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Joseph Z
Yeah, we.
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Gabe Perrot
See. We read that in the New Testament. Was it. Wasn't it Moses and Elijah that.
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Joseph Z
That.
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Gabe Perrot
That were on the mountain with him. Right? And so. So Jesus wasn't a foreigner to him. Moses had. Moses had known Jesus a lot earlier than people realized.
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Joseph Z
Powerful, Gabe. Man, that's strong. You know, Jesus told you, and this is in your book, that he told you things that will alter your eternity. Told you things this will alter your eternity. Gabriel, what are the. What is the most transformative message he gave you about salvation, living, and maybe even his soon return?
- [21:44]
Gabe Perrot
Yeah, absolutely. Well, I saw that I was always his. He pulled back the timeline for me and even showed me where it was just a bunch of dust and nothingness in between Genesis 1:2 and Genesis 1:1. And he took his fingerprint and love, Love breathed upon that. It wasn't just dirt of, like, dirt of the earth. It was dust. It was nothing. It was nothing. Love breathed upon it and created Gabriel. Gabriel was made. Gabriel is a miracle. And when Gabriel was put in his mother's womb, I was already chosen beforehand. I've already been loved and forgiven beforehand. So I saw that. So, like, that changed my entire perspective, right? Because now it's no longer a heaven I work to get towards. It's a heaven that has come to me. And so. But he did show me many revelations, but he looked me in my eyes. He said, gabriel, tell them who I really am and tell them and tell my family I'm coming back to get them soon. Wow. And when he said soon, when he said soon, Joseph, it wasn't like a far distant distance away. It literally was. He was. He was. He. He was coming towards me as if he was coming. Almost. Almost like it felt like soon after I was sent back, he was going to come back. Like, it was like. It was so surreal. It literally has left me with a feeling that every single. Every single night I go to bed and I'm like, I don't even know if I'm gonna wake up in the morning. You know, I wake up in the morning and I'm like, I don't even know if we're gonna end this day because Still, I'm just reminded of how he stared me right in the eyes. Tell them I'm coming back soon. I'm coming to get them. I want my family. Bring my family. Bring my family to me.
- [23:16]
Joseph Z
Come on.
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Gabe Perrot
And that's why I share this testimony, is not to tell people about myself. It's. It's to tell people about him. And that's why I get. I kind of, you know, people, I think, can throw out the term heaven as if it's like a Disney tourism location or something, like. Or they just. They just, you know, visit it all the time, I guess, because apparently some people have. Some people, I guess, five times a day, you know, like.
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Joseph Z
No, I know that's not your encounter. You had. You. You died. You died.
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Gabe Perrot
Yeah.
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Joseph Z
You went there.
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Gabe Perrot
It was not something I was looking for, you know, it was something I was just. I was just having fun with my buddies. You know what I mean? Like, this isn't this. And, and, and even still, I. I count this as such a holy experience. And most importantly, though, I tell people, too. And the reason I actually, on every chapter, I almost always attach a scripture because I only want people to stick with the word of God. And they. They, they. They can judge my testimony back against the Word and. And anything that doesn't line up with the word, I tell them to throw it out.
- [24:12]
Joseph Z
Amen. That's so good, Gabe. That's so. So you were there. Did you. Did you see landscape? Did you see cities? Did you see houses or anything that we would recognize?
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Gabe Perrot
Absolutely. The cities unfolded. It's not just one city, really. The houses unfolded. It's not just one house. Many. Like, the city was its own place and world and beach and mountains and streets at the same time. Like, the city had everything. The city. But it wasn't just an urban location. It wasn't just like a downtown, although there are downtowns. But, like, there's the countryside all in one. Like, very, very beautiful. There's monuments, there's libraries. You know, I have to talk about the libraries for a moment, Joseph.
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Joseph Z
Okay, actually, talk about them.
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Gabe Perrot
I encountered a library that had just had my name on it. And it had all the plans that the Father had written for me. And it had all the moments that he had counted, even the little things. Every single moment was important for him and valuable for him. And even the moments of my failures that I thought were just going to be, you know, written up and just made, you know, made public for everyone. Instead, my failures were only washed, and only Grace was there. Only his blood was There, Only his love was there. Like, it was beautiful. It was gorgeous. And in those libraries, those in heaven actually gather and they go read the story of our life, Joseph. And they rejoice. And they literally go read the story, the testimony of Joseph. They'll go read Joseph's library. They'll go read Rick's library. And it's pretty wild because, actually, I didn't know this, but after Rick and Renner had wrote my forward for my book, well, even before this, he talked about this, but I'd never heard this testimony of his. But he visited a library in heaven where they were reading his books.
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Joseph Z
Yep, that's right.
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Gabe Perrot
And I didn't know that when I wrote my book. Right. So I wrote my book, and then he came out with this testimony. And I'm talking to Rick. I'm like, rick, you encounter the same thing I did.
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Joseph Z
He did.
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Gabe Perrot
We didn't. We didn't tell each other that.
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Joseph Z
And so, yeah, I know it.
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Gabe Perrot
So it's quite miraculous. And I'll have so many others, you know, Randy K. I was even talking with John Burke a lot, and he tells me just how similar my encounter has been to so many others.
- [26:12]
Joseph Z
Wow. One thing. I know Rick. You bring up Rick. I know he said he saw his books in heaven. They said, these are your books. And then he saw books that he had not yet written that were there. I just thought that was interesting.
- [26:25]
Gabe Perrot
Exactly. See, and that's the truth. People always try to understand heaven on earth's clock, and that's why they can't. Right. They're trying to understand eternity, and they're trying to understand God's plan. Like, okay, well, did God plan this before or after? Or did he know it? Did he allow it? Like, what is happening here? And truthfully, you just gotta sit back and just let him be him. Let God be God and just trust him. And we don't have to understand the timing of everything. We can just trust him. And. And so. But, yeah, it is. It is quite fascinating. He's already beat us to the punch, Joseph.
- [26:55]
Joseph Z
Oh, man.
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Gabe Perrot
Like, he's already. He's the ancient of days. He's already come on before us.
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Joseph Z
Come on.
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Gabe Perrot
He's already been before us.
- [27:02]
Joseph Z
He's better than we think. He's amazing. Hey, you. You mentioned you saw Moses and you mentioned Elijah as well. Did you see Elijah or was it kind of a distance? What was that?
- [27:11]
Gabe Perrot
Like, Eli. Elisha specifically?
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Joseph Z
Excuse me. Okay.
- [27:15]
Gabe Perrot
No, no, you're totally good. It's easy. I mean, yeah, it's. They have a Very close name.
- [27:19]
Joseph Z
He was a bald prophet. Just so you know. He was bald.
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Gabe Perrot
I don't. Not surprised at all. When he was on. When he was. When he was on those hills, I didn't necessarily see the details of him. Here's the details that I saw. Joseph.
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Joseph Z
Yeah.
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Gabe Perrot
He was surrounded by that army. And when he said, greater is the one that is with us than he that's against us. And. And they are surrounded by the One who's with me, I saw that it wasn't just some chariots of fire. I saw that he saw the chariot of fire himself. He saw the lion of the tribe of Judah. He actually saw a forecoming. And it was actually a prophetic picture of that which is going to happen in the last days. And actually, I share this in my.
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Joseph Z
Please, yeah, share.
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Gabe Perrot
Sometimes it helps me to go back to my book.
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Joseph Z
I understand that. Oh, no, I understand so much.
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Gabe Perrot
So I saw Elisha, and he was on his white horse. So Jesus was on the white horse. He took me to another place in this timeline, and this is in second Kings 6. At this moment, I saw on top of an intense hillside, the chief chariot of fire. Love was there on his white horse. He hadn't just sent his servants of fire, he was the Fire himself. I learned how he waits on us to trust him enough to allow him to fight our battles. The wars we face don't have to threaten us. Instead, we can respond with an emphatic cry, greater is the one on my side than the one on your face. And I. Actually. So I saw that was a prophetic picture of what's going to happen at the end times. It's going to seem like we are surrounded. It's going to seem like there is no hope, just like Elijah in 2 Kings 6. And what's going to happen is we are going to pray. Lord, let them see. And the chief chariot of fire is going to come and he's going to rescue us.
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Joseph Z
Wow.
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Gabe Perrot
And it's going to be so beautiful.
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Joseph Z
Wow, that's. So you're there. You see these things you're having. Truly, you know, that's the thing, you know, ladies and gentlemen, you're watching Gabe and I right now. And when you have supernatural, we could even call it revelatory experiences that Gabe went there, these kind of things are unfolding. It's sometimes hard to articulate into the natural what you've experienced in the spirit realm. And, you know, we know that you weren't there in body because your body was in a bed. And so you're Having a supernatural spiritual encounter, a visitation where you visited that arena. Now, a lot of people talk about things, but there's a lot of misconceptions about heaven. I like the way you're breaking this down, Gabe. And then one of the big things I wanted to ask you is, did you see anybody you knew there? Did you see anybody you recognized outside of these Bible characters or maybe more.
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Gabe Perrot
I peripherally knew they were all there, but, Joseph, you know, people always ask me, did you see your grandma? I knew my grandma was there, but, Joseph, honestly, my grandma, she wasn't my grand. I mean, yes, she was like my earthly grandma, but she was my sister. Like, she. She is my family. Like, she's.
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Joseph Z
Yeah, she.
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Gabe Perrot
And. And it wasn't just her. Every single. Every single one was just as close to me as my grandma had been on the Earth.
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Joseph Z
That is interesting.
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Gabe Perrot
Like, see, people try to understand heaven through Earth's.
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Joseph Z
Totally.
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Gabe Perrot
Of course, it doesn't work that way.
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Joseph Z
Our five senses. Yeah.
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Gabe Perrot
Earth is very clouded. It's very. And even Biblically, 1 Corinthians 13 talks about this, about how one day we will all pass from this vain, confusing life, and we'll see the clarity. And so in heaven, we're all family. We're all one. And so it's not just some loved ones that watch us.
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Joseph Z
Everyone in heaven is our loved one.
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Gabe Perrot
You still have a memory, like, you do. Like, oh, yeah, you know, I was with you on the Earth at this time, but it's still. It's not like people think.
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Joseph Z
So I want to ask you this, too. I just. You really got me curious. It's so cool. Like, you're. Heaven was a spiritual plane that you went to. Is heaven like, a physical location or is it all spirit? If you can even ascertain that. And I don't know if you can, but.
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Gabe Perrot
So it is even more of a physical place than this physical place.
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Joseph Z
Wow.
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Gabe Perrot
So it's. Again, it's challenging to put words into what I'm describing.
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Joseph Z
So I know it.
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Gabe Perrot
He didn't even speak to me in the English language. He spoke without anything audible. It was heart to heart. It was spirit to spirit. It was so intimate. Me and you are communicating in a path, but, you know, and it's great. Thank God for the Internet. But me and you are communicating in a limited manner. We truly. Even when we talk to one another, there's still limits. There's still. You know, even when we're in person, when we talk to one another, the English language still limits us. God wants to talk to us, spirit to spirit. That's why he gave us praying in the spirit. Anyway, so that's a whole nother. But yeah, I always have to stir up some. Some dead cows in a moment anyways. It's just good. Just kick them right over.
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Joseph Z
Yeah, just kick them over. Let's have a barbecue. Yeah, it's great. You know, Gabe, you've impacted so many people, you know, over the years. You've had huge online baptisms, right? Online. You know, you've done so many things. You've preached around the world. You've been on all these news media outlets. The Lord is just amplifying your voice. And I believe that now is the time you're telling people Jesus is coming soon. Get into the word of God. Yes, I've had a revelation, you know, but stick with the word of God. I love that message, Gabe. And one of the big things that's exciting is your book just recently went number one over all of Amazon. Not in one category overall. And so not only congratulations, but praise be to Jesus, because this is going forward and the message is getting out. And I'm just so thrilled with you and for you and the light that you and Allie, your wonderful bride, share to so many people all over the world. Gabe, you're impacting the entire culture right now with this earth revelation. And I believe it's going to bring such glory to Jesus. Gabe, would you do this just for a moment? Would you pray for everybody watching you have such an anointing. I've been with Gabe, by the way, when we've been in meetings. He'll lay hands on people. A strong prophetic anointing comes on him, he'll begin to pray. And people, truly. I've watched people get breakthroughs. I've been in restaurants with you. When people run up, they're like, you're Gabe Perot and they want to talk to you, and then you begin to minister to them. I love the way you and Allie minister to people. You truly have the heart of Jesus for people. And you represent that word God gave me about a young lion anointing that was coming in 2015. He told me the young lions are coming. And, Gabe, I met you, and that anointing on you to be a young lion and change the culture, it is only beginning. So, man of God, sir, if you would, would you please pray for everybody watching right now?
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Gabe Perrot
Of course. Heavenly Father, I just thank you for this one. I thank you that even before all of eternity, even before this universe was ever made, they were the ones you had on your mind. They were the ones you wanted. They were the ones. You had everything else except for them. And so because of them, you gave it all up because you wanted them. You sent your son just for them. And so right now, I pray you would just install supernatural hope in the name of Jesus. I thank you for joy. I see smiles actually erupting across their face right now, no matter how deep the valley is that they've been going through. I see a smile, a joy release right now because great is their victory. And the battle is not done yet. The story's not over. I even hear many of you, you felt like it was over. You felt like whatever had happened, it just. It wasn't what maybe you were praying for. It wasn't what you were expecting. I hear the Lord tell you the battle's not done yet. The stories come on yet. And so I just want to encourage you. And right now, as I even just touch my camera. In the name of Jesus. In the name of Jesus, right now, in Jesus name, Amen.
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Joseph Z
Amen. Gabe, thank you, man. It's so awesome to see you. We got to do some more stuff. How do people get the book? How do they follow you? Tell us everything.
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Gabe Perrot
Of course, it's available wherever they can get a book. And absolutely, they can follow me on YouTube.com Gabe Perot as well.
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Joseph Z
Yeah, well, I love Gabe. I know Gabe, wonderful young man of God, young lion, warrior. And, you know, God's done a lot of things through you. You've encouraged so many people, Gabe. And I think this is just the beginning. What a thrill. So gabepareau.com get ahold of that. And then, of course, go to Gabe on YouTube. You have like 2 million followers plus on YouTube. I encourage everybody follow him. He releases revelatory things, prophetic updates, news, all kinds of stuff. It's not just this narrative. Gabe's very multifaceted in what God's doing with him. So, Gabe, thanks for being with me today, man. It's such a privilege. And it's been fun watching you on Fox and all the places God's taking you, and it's just beginning. Love you big time. Thank you for being here, Gabe.
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Gabe Perrot
Love you. Thank you so much.
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Joseph Z
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Ministry Intercessor
The minute I said yes to Jesus was the minute I attained all of life and godliness and righteousness and wholeness. It all belongs to me. I attain it the moment I say yes. Jesus to you. Just as you are saved, so are you healed. He paid for it all. When you place that draw in a demand on your covenant, and you place a draw in a demand on the word of God, that's when faith begins to arise on the inside and nothing will stop you. Nothing.
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Joseph Z
For I am raising up an equipped warrior class group of intercessors. I see mantles for intercession coming on people that they will stand up and begin to go to war in their home, in their living room, and begin to stand against principalities and powers. I see them doing this. The Lord's going to begin to assign you to pray, to intercede, to break yokes off leaders, to break them off, those around you to be gossip busters.
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Ministry Intercessor
I declare breakthrough. I declare breakthrough. I declare breakthrough in your hearts. I declare breakthrough in your minds. I declare breakthrough in your household. I declare breakthrough. Breakthrough in your bodies. I declare breakthrough in your relationships. Right now, by the blood of Jesus.
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Gabe Perrot
Because it's your covenant.
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Ministry Intercessor
It's your covenant right. And anything else is illegal.
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Gabe Perrot
Thank you.
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Ministry Intercessor
Right now, in the mighty name of
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Joseph Z
Jesus, right now, even on a bad day, you're anointed to be the very best there is. God has called you. A man or woman with a revelation from God Almighty is not at the mercy of a culture going mad. We're going red in the blood of Jesus. Jesus is Lord.