Podcast Summary: “Jet Lag Chit Chat”
Podcast: Joy, a Podcast. Hosted by Craig Ferguson
Episode Air Date: September 30, 2025
Overview
In this solo episode of “Joy,” Craig Ferguson invites listeners into his jet-lagged, unfiltered stream of consciousness. With no guest this week due to a hectic travel schedule (broadcasting from New York amidst a return to London), Craig revisits the familiar energy of his old “tweets and emails” late-night segment, answering a slew of listener questions with honesty, humor, and his signature self-effacing wit. The episode is a meandering exploration of jet lag, revenge, changing opinions, autobiographical writing, the wisdom of shutting up, show biz memories, money, and the joys of direct conversation.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
Jet Lag & Life on the Road
- Craig’s Current Mood:
- Explains his solo episode is due to a busy travel/work schedule (00:32).
- Humorously describes the constipating effects of jet lag:
“I’m a fairly regular fella… but jet lag slows things down.” (01:25)
- Shares the military’s jet lag heuristic: one day per hour of time zone change (02:05).
- Invites pilots and others with experience to write in about their jet lag methods (03:10).
The Joy of Intimate Chat
- Reflects that listeners seem to prefer episodes where it’s just him talking directly to them:
“I think you guys prefer it when it’s just you and me talking… It’s like just us talking. You ask me questions, I’ll… I’ll fill you in as best I can.” (04:00)
Revenge: Worth It or Not?
Listener: Gail Gilroy – “What are your thoughts on revenge?”
- Compares revenge to Cheetos: “delicious, but probably not that good for you.” (06:10)
- Strongly worded letters don’t really count as revenge. (06:35)
- On Emotional Restraint:
- “Shutting up is nearly always the best thing to do. I really believe that, which is, I know, a real irony because all I do is talk all the time.” (08:10)
- Reveals his rule: never send emails at night, especially angry ones, always check them in the morning.
“Every single time I’ve looked at that email in the morning, I went, you know what? Fuck that. Just let it go.” (09:25)
- If you must say it, be sure it’s worth being on the record. (10:00)
Changing Opinions & Evolving Views
Listener: Eden – “What’s the last thing you changed your mind about? Favorite Oreo?”
- Admits to changing his mind often, sometimes embarrassed by earlier writings (11:30).
- Paraphrases and analyzes Churchill:
“If you feel the same at 50 as you did when you were 20, you’ve wasted 30 years of your life.” (12:35)
- Shares his nuanced opinion on Churchill, reflecting on how views can change with age and new information. (13:10)
- Discusses the binary nature of digital life and how it impacts how we see the world—everything being “on or off.” (14:30)
Autobiographical Writing & Reflection
Listener: Julie Reid – “Will there be another autobiography?”
- Points out he already wrote a second memoir, “Riding the Elephant” (2019), more reflective than his splashy 2009 bestseller, “American on Purpose.” (15:10)
- Opens up about shifting tones between books as life circumstances change:
“It had a different feel for me… more meditative and less splashy of a book.” (16:00)
Imagining Past Lives
Listener: Katie from Perth, Australia – “If you lived in the old times, what would you have done?”
- Jokes he’d be “the village idiot” no matter the era (17:05).
- Digs into regional pride and accents, with playful banter about Perth in Scotland vs. Australia (17:30).
The Value of Everyday Stories
Listener: Laurel Shaisal – Appreciates solo, musing episodes
- Craig agrees there’s “something weirdly liberating” about talking directly to listeners (18:45).
- Describes his curiosity for everyday stories from all walks of life:
“Everybody has a story… The busboy has a story, the lady that works in the dry cleaner… and I particularly enjoy that.” (20:30)
- Reflects that show business isn’t the only business with interesting characters. (21:00)
Showbiz Antics & Memories
Listener: Debbie Sheen – “How did the two-person pantomime horse work on Late Night?”
- Explains the person in front stands, the one in back bends at the waist—“That’s exactly how it works.” (22:30)
- Shares backstory of ‘Secretariat’, the iconic horse from his old show:
“Joe Bolter was always the front of the horse… Various other production assistants or interns were given the back end of the horse. They’re an elite group.” (23:10)
Jeff Peterson & Collaborative Comedy
Listener: Juju Lee – “Will you bring Jeff (the robot) back?”
- Heaping praise on Josh Robert Thompson as the “soul and funny of Jeff Peterson.” (24:10)
- Hints that more improv with Josh is likely in the future. (24:40)
Hypothetical Movie Roles
Listener: Edible Apeman – “If you could star in any kind of film, what would it be?”
- Wishes to be in a Western:
“I’d like to be in a western… maybe take care of some bad guys, ride a horse. Not fall off it.” (26:08)
- Jokes about his wife’s love of horses and owning “two cobs and a Shetland.” (27:00)
- Comedy riff about horse ownership and “home remedies” for constipation induced by jet lag (27:15).
Grooming and Identity
Listener: Kim’s Lantern – Loves Craig’s scruff
- Shares that his current job requires shaving but finds he actually enjoys being clean-shaven again (28:00).
- Reminisces about the days when late-night hosts had to be clean-cut:
“Nowadays late night show host can have beards… I come from a different time, my friends. We always had to shave.” (28:30)
Money: What It Does & Doesn’t Do
Listener: I’m Just Serious – “How much money have you earned and spent?”
- Candidly admits: “I’ve probably, in the last couple of years, I’ve spent more than I earned.” (29:10)
- On growing up without money:
“When you’re poor, you think everything’s to do with being poor. Certainly feels like that.” (31:10)
- Discovers that money is useful, but doesn’t solve everything; especially not what he thought as a boy:
“There are certain things that it can’t touch… It doesn’t do what I thought it would do.” (32:00)
- Finishes with gratitude for what he has and the lesson that money is “good, basically… but it’s not everything.” (33:20)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- On Revenge:
“I think revenge is probably a bit like Cheetos, you know—delicious, but probably not that good for you.”
(06:10) - Wisdom from Age:
“Shutting up is nearly always the best thing to do… And I know, a real irony, because all I do is talk all the time.”
(08:10) - About Listening/Changing Opinions:
“If you feel the same at 50 as you did when you were 20, you’ve wasted 30 years of your life.”
(12:35, quoting/paraphrasing Churchill) - Human Complexity:
“Life is complicated. It’s not all binary.”
(14:10) - On Money’s Limits:
“There are certain things that it (money) can’t touch… It doesn’t do what I thought it would do.”
(32:00) - Accents and Affection:
“Whenever you run into people that don’t have your accent, five times out of ten people will do your accent to you as a way of greeting. Like, Regis used to do… ‘Oh, Kuson!’ I was like, knock it off, Regis.”
(18:20) - On Finding Joy in Everyday Stories:
“Everybody has a story… and I particularly enjoy that.”
(20:30)
Timestamps for Important Segments
- [00:32] – Craig sets the scene: solo, jet-lagged, in New York
- [01:25] – Jet lag woes and military time zone logic
- [04:00] – Listeners seem to prefer intimate, direct chats
- [06:10] – Revenge is like Cheetos; advice on angry late-night emails
- [11:30] – Evolving opinions, Churchill, and the binary world
- [15:10] – Memoir reflections, “Riding the Elephant”
- [17:05] – Past lives; would Craig be the “village idiot”?
- [18:45] – Joy of solo podcasts and listening to everyday people
- [22:30] – How the two-person pantomime horse worked
- [24:10] – Praise and plans for Jeff Peterson (Josh Robert Thompson)
- [26:08] – Dream role: wants to star in a Western
- [28:00] – Grooming, showbiz looks, and shifting norms
- [29:10] – Honest (and humorous) take on earning and spending
- [32:00] – Money, its uses, and its limits
- [33:45] – Signs off, promising more solo episodes due to continued busyness
Tone & Style
The episode is relaxed, candid, and intimate—just Craig and his listeners, with meandering asides and honest self-reflection punctuated by witty detours. Craig’s guidance, even when tongue-in-cheek, is rooted in experience, warmth, and humility.
For New Listeners
If you haven’t tuned in before, this episode provides a quintessential dose of Craig Ferguson’s worldview: vulnerable, philosophical, funny, and just the right side of irreverent. Whether you’re here for comedy, insight, or a friendly voice on an insomniac night, “Jet Lag Chit Chat” delivers.
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